Trusting Myself, One Step at a Time: The Healing Behind Building Nyala

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Rev. Rose Hope: another amazing guest on the show today, Cheryl Meder. Cheryl is the founder of Niala healing, a heart centered platform created from lived experience navigating the holistic healing world as both a client and collaborator. After witnessing how difficult it can be to find aligned, trustworthy practitioners, and how challenging it can be for healers to be truly seen, she set out to build a more transparent, ethical ecosystem. Nyala healing connects people with vetted holistic practitioners while helping healers clearly articulate how they serve and who they help. Cheryl is passionate about integrity clarity and bridging intuitive wisdom with practical systems that support meaningful healing connections. Can't wait to dive in with Cheryl today. Hello everybody. Welcome back so good to be with you on another edition of When Spirit calls, I have the lovely Cheryl with me. Hello, Cheryl.

Hi, hi. D, hi, Reverend D,

Rev. Rose Hope: Rose D, Reverend hope. Rando, too many names, I tell you. I get this all the time, and people are like, what do I call you. And so I just allow people to call me whatever it is that they feel compelled to call me. So you pick a name and you got it.

It's all good. I'm going with Reverend D,

Rev. Rose Hope: okay, I love it. Reverend D, loving so, so happy to be with you today. And you know, I am so fascinated about what you've created, and part of that is because I went on a journey creating a very similar business, and it was to bridge the gap between the public and the providers, and so you have now created this exceptional platform so that people who are going through a healing journey can access the providers, and also you're supporting the providers and getting them exposure so that we can bridge those gaps. And I just love this, because this was such a deep passion of mine for many, many years, it's still on my heart. So I got so excited when I heard this is what you're doing, I thought, oh my gosh, I need to know this woman. I can't wait to explore. I'm going to get myself on her site and all the things. But of course, we want to go back to why this is important to you. What's, what's the back story? Cheryl, why did you, why did you decide to pursue this very big endeavor?

It is a big endeavor, and, and, yeah, it's a little bit little embarrassing to say how long it's been in my head, because that just speaks to how long it took me to trust the message and the messages and the ongoing pushing me like spirit, pushing me up that Mount Everest, you know, right? Yeah, but I would say it really kind of started, you know, way back. Well, I've always been fascinated with spirit and, you know, kind of knowing things before they happened. I mean, when I was a tiny child, my mother had purchased a second hand swing set out in the backyard, and I remember, you know, being so excited to come home and go upside down on the trapeze bar and hang upside down and everything. And one day I got home, and it was shortly after she'd purchased it, you know. And I went to the sliding glass window, and all of a sudden something just was like, Don't go. And I went around the house, peeked out around the corner of the house, looked up and saw that in the corner of this and it was like an industrial strength, like, from a schoolyard in the corner there was like a crack like so, in other words, that big bar was about to crack, the suspension was about to crack and fall. And I've always looked back on that that, you know, spirit's been talking to me forever, you know, and so. And then my parents passed away early, and we went to live with an aunt and uncle who were, it was quite a lovely experience. There were six of us, and so they took us all in. And my uncle, he was just a simple, you know, fireman, but he had a lot of interest in, like, Edgar Casey in the spirit world, you know, in hypnotism, he would try to hypnotize us. And there were some things that, you know, really cool things that went on. Like, I remember once being up in my bedroom, and, you know, my brother runs up, what are you doing? You're not supposed to be here. I was supposed to be at, you know, cheerleading practice, but my uncle had hypnotized him and said, Where's

Cheryl, you know, and he had said, she's in her bedroom. Like, what's she doing? She's doing homework. What kind of homework, math homework? So my brother came up and said, What are you doing? And I said, I was doing all that, right? And so stuff, stuff like that. So I was always curious about it.

And then I started in 2012 a cousin of mine had told me about a book, Barbara Brennan, hands of light. And you know, she had always growing up, been into all of these different kinds of things, like something work to do with the face and what big ear lobes meant, and something about that. And her father always would roll his eyes, but I was always fascinated. And so I remember that I had that book for a while, and I finally read it all in one night. And Google was brand new, and I went to my computer and I Googled Barbara Brennan, and it turned out that there was going to be a workshop in Berkeley, like, a week later. Wow. And I went there, and I met someone who's now, like one of my best friends, and she, she introduced me to all these different modalities and such. So that was kind of like the acceleration, yes, but then what happens is, you kind of, you know, I was raising three children. I was in a second marriage. Things weren't going great with my marriage after my kids left, and then strange things are really kind of miraculous things started happening. Love it, yeah, so, I mean, see which of those stories, I mean, one was right around that time, like right around 2016 I had retired from a career doing tax for the government. I won't say which agency. That's three letters, and it was really a great career. But I mean, you know, I retired, my children had left the house, and I was beginning to realize that my marriage wasn't the ideal situation for me.

And I went out to middle of the night, one night, went out to the hot tub, which I never got in the hot tub, it was for my kids, it was for my husband. But I thought, you know, let's kind of want to get in the hot tub. And a light came on behind, and this was a house we had just moved to and remodeled. And actually the original wing, we kind of left it in place the original three bedrooms. It was like a rancher, and there had been some floodlights out there. And the electrician, we had spoken to him, like, what do we do about, you know, that light? It's not working. And he's like, You know what? You have these other lights over here on the new wing. I wouldn't even worry about it, right? Yeah, so it was a defunct light, and coincidentally, we had buried and my cat furball under right around that area like that past year. Anyway, I'm sitting in the hot tub, and I'm facing this way. The house is behind me, and a light pops on behind me, and I'm thinking, Oh, my husband's in his office, because his office was right back there. And I'm just expecting at any moment to hear the slider open and him come out, and then a few you know, didn't happen. I turn around, and the light, that's floodlight, that doesn't work, was on. I'm like, and I just felt a hello, right? I just felt that Hello. And so I didn't I was like, That's odd, right? And then shortly after that, through this friend, Diane that I met at the Barbara Brennan, she had told me about a Reiki professional down in Carmel. Her name is Sarah, niece, and one of my sons was having an issue with his throat or in neck anatomy. I won't go into that, but I thought, You know what, let's go down there. I'll get him some healing from Sarah, and I'll get a I'll get a session at the same time, you know. So Sarah, when it was my turn for my session, first thing she said was, you know, I'm a medium, right? And I'd never been to a medium. What I know now is that she was itching to tell me something. There were people in

the room itching to tell me stuff. Typically, they typically don't say things, you know, very per you know they want. It's free the idea of free will, right? Yeah. So Sarah said to me, do you have any questions for me? I'm a medium, before we get going on your Reiki session. And I said, Yeah. I mean, yeah, I have a question about this light that came on. And I said, was that like, furball trying to communicate with me, you know, the cat? And she said, No, that was your father, she said, and he's here now, and he he's saying, hello. And I. You know, she said, you know, he wants you to know that he remembers everything, like all of our life together, right? And he's handing you an orange flower. Well, my dad and I, we would always comment on the poppies that grow wild in California, right? Yes. And so then I just started asking about my marriage. You know, there was a lot of embarrassment about, I mean, this is my second marriage. Yeah, you're not supposed to fail at a second marriage. You know, you're supposed to have learned your lessons. So, you know, I was prepared to stick it out. You know, he's not a bad person. We're just a bad fit anyway. So, but Sarah came through with a full throated message, like, this is a cancer in your life. You need to be free of it, and you need to move on. And I was like, you know, because I had only been sort of a little bit contemplating, right?

Rev. Rose Hope: So that was a big that landed.

It landed pretty strongly, yeah. So the bottom line is that I did move out. And just one final thing about the light, I was so tired as I was moving out, because moving to a different house in the same city, and so I was making trips between, you know, the house we shared and the new house. And I was so tired at one point, and I was in this bare bedroom at that point, because, you know, we knew we were separating, and I was like, oh, spirit, I'm just so tired. Let me just sleep a few more hours. Well, the bedroom I was sleeping in, in the old wing, this is a funny part. Spirit is funny. It is, yeah, it's so hilarious that strobe that light that didn't work, yeah, started strobing. Oh my gosh. It started strobing. Like, get your ass up or out of here. You got to go now. And it was my last, you know, load the car. I only had a tiny Prius, but it was like, my last load. And as I'm driving off, that light was strobing in the early morning, Dawn. And I just thought, This is amazing, you know, what is this?

Rev. Rose Hope: Right? Yes, yeah, the beautiful signs of spirit, you know. And I love how oftentimes the signs are multifold, you know, yes, it was your dad saying hi. But I also feel like it was a moment where the light bulbs switched on for you too, right? Because that led to the oh my gosh, yes, I need to get out of this relationship that led to so much more. And, you know, it's so beautiful when we see these, these messages from spirit and how expansive they are for us, right, navigating, but also in helping us to open up the aperture, right? Yeah, that's what's happening. We open the aperture of like, okay, there's probably a logical explanation about a wire or something with this light. We can always find a logical explanation for everything. Can we? Cheryl, right? Yes, but that's not the point. Spirit reminds me all the time, that's not the point. I remember, you know, one of my past loved ones, they communicate with dimes and and I remember one day just having this very interesting, like, very deep connection. I could feel him coming to me, and I felt this sense of love, like it felt so beautiful. And I was off to go somewhere. So I drove to where I was going, and as I get out of my seat, I see a dime sitting on my seat. The dime was not there when I sat down. I wasn't wearing pants that would have lost a dime. Where the dime come from, you know? And so, yeah, I could, I could find the logical reason how the dime showed up. But the point is that I felt his energy. I felt his spirit. I felt the connection, just like when that light went on for you. You know, you knew it was you knew it was from the other side. You just didn't know maybe who it came from, right, right? So those are beautiful gifts for us. We can logic it away, but why not allow ourselves to feel that connection and that sensation of love within us?

Yeah, yeah, no, and I do, I do get my messages from visual that are just so strongly felt and known. It's like, okay, wow, yeah, like, like, when I was waiting to hear if I was truly had cancer or not. Yeah, because that came shortly after, and was the turning point where, you know, I moved back to this big old house where my children, I'd raised them, children, just kind of hanging out in this big house with, you know, what do I do now? Kind of feeling, and friends in the tax world said, Oh, well, you should represent people now, right? I'm like, Yes, I should do that, you know. And so I had already, you know, accepted, like, an engagement with a well known, you know, surgical dentist, or whatever you call, this dentist who do surgery and oral surgeon, yeah, and I'd gone out and I'd had the interview, and I was sitting home, riding up the. Interview, and I'm thinking, wow, this is just like my old job that I left. It just didn't have any oomph to it. And I this was back in 2017, or no, early 18, when people still wrote checks. I hadn't even cashed his check yet, and literally, within a few days, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Wow, yeah, yeah, and so that's the universe just saying, no, no, this is not what you're supposed to be doing. Press, yeah, hold the presses out back the check. So then it becomes a real okay. Now, what do I do with my life? Because that ship has sailed, and I'm not supposed to be doing that, you know, well, immediately, I just need to deal with my health. Of course, you're filled with fear. You're filled with oh my gosh, because it was not at first my doctor, the doctor that gave me the diagnosis, was very Yeah, yeah, you're older, so it'll be a slow growing cancer, blah, blah, blah. But when the biopsy came back, he's like, Oh my gosh. You know, this is a young woman's disease, and I know what he was talking about, because when you're Brack a positive, which is so ironic that I'm a numbers girl, and I didn't look into

this sooner, but when you're bracket positive, as I was, you have an 80% chance of developing breast cancer in your life. This is why Angelina Jolie was is what you call a previver, because she had the double mastectomy up front.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah. Maybe so if you would have tested before, you would have found out that you were highly likely,

right, and then you would have had more rather than a mammogram. You have a the other kind of, what's it called, MRI. MRI, yeah, check. Okay. But anyway, so then, you know, the fear comes in. And then I really started aggressively going to alternative healing workshops and treats and treats, healing everything. Yeah, yes, yes. And someone, you know, what those things you tend to go to lunch with everybody, if it's going on all day. So an acquaintance at the lunch table, I think this gentleman, Henry, he did energy clearing of homes. Those were some interesting, you know, ghost stories he had to tell. But he told me, intuitively, he said, I feel like you would benefit from working with a pranic healer. Out of the blue, he's telling me this, and I'm thinking, Okay, I didn't know where to find a pranic healer. I didn't know what Pranic Healing meant. And this is the, you know, the beginnings of the seeds of, how do we find our people? How do we find these healers, you know, that this crowd seems to know about, but me, coming in, you know, peripherally involved didn't know about, right? Yeah. So then in the, you know, I just pretty much dealt with all of my cancer and surgeries and, you know, removing your ovaries, because those can catch cancer too, and you know, all of this stuff. Mike, that was in 2018 and early 2019 and I just thought, in 2019 I thought, Okay, I'm going to spend more money this year than I did on medical last year. That was just my goal. And so Sarah niece, the same Reiki lady, she puts on spiritual retreats. So I received an email from her saying, I'm putting on a retreat in Arizona at Sedona in August, and we're going, Yeah, we're going to South Africa in December. And I didn't know what the themes or the retreats were or anything, but I just ended up signing up for both of them, you know.

Rev. Rose Hope: So you were like, You were all in, I feel like it was invested in your health,

yeah, I was just all in. And I, I just feel honestly like I was guided to the email guided to signing up. Yeah? Because I, I honestly feel like when, you know, when I went to that workshop, three or four day workshop in Sedona, I do feel like that's when the the download came in. You know, it was the first time that I was at a retreat where they were talking about getting downloads and light codes, wow. And yeah, so I still have the artwork that I did in one of the exercises, and it's the idea that we went on this walk to the sacred area in Sedona, pick up things from the ground and then create a piece of art. And the message that I got, and I remember telling the class was okay, I'm here, you know? And I remember she had gotten a few little tiles from Michael's that we could choose from as well, and one of them had like a little etching, like a little hut. And to me, that was like my represented my forever home. And so that was part of my artwork. And I the message was, yes, you have a forever home, and you're gonna you. Love coming home, but you have to do something first. You have to do something for us, and we're giving you the messages now what you need to do. And I honestly feel like that's when it all kind of came in, this idea to have an online directory, right? Like where I could have gone to find my pranic healer who I did find. I said a prayer in the tub. And by the way, not to digress too much, but that tub that I had taken a bath in for decades, also around that time, I started seeing things. Here, when I would close my eyes, I was seeing things, faces, images, hieroglyphics, okay, literally, aliens, you know, the kind of things you see on I'm like, Oh my gosh, is that National Inquiry I'm seeing? I'm seeing the big face with the almond eyes. But in that bathtub during that time, there was a certain time of day, you know, and I was by myself, so when the light would come in, like around early morning light, I was literally

seeing the reflection of my chakras spinning on the ceiling, like a shadow of them spinning. And I could never film it, because if I took my camera, it would move the water and then it would, of course, Buzz away. Yes, but I thought of asking your girlfriend to come in and film it, but, you know, anyway, so that's the bathtub. But back to the 2019 and, you know, getting this download about creating the holistic directory, it would be like, how would I do that? You know, I, I have no clue, right, but kind of this, knowing that, that I was going to do it right. Then I have to figure it out. Yeah. So between August and December, I remember also in that house thinking, well, what would I call it, right? And I remember getting this knowing message, you're going to get the name in South Africa. You're going to get the name in South Africa, right? Yeah. So lo and behold, go to South Africa. And the theme of the trip that I didn't even know when I signed up was animal communication. Yes, yes, because there's a woman, Linda Tucker, that runs a sanctuary for these sacred white lions in South Africa. And so we go to see the South African White lions. And there were only like four of us on the trip, because it was early covid days. And I think a lot of people, yeah, were shying while we were shying away, and probably canceled, yeah. But fortunately, Sarah did not cancel. Wow. And the whole idea was Sarah taking people to South Africa. She'd been guided to do that. I asked her on one of the puddle jumpers, why South Africa? She goes. I just got a message that I was supposed to take people to South Africa, right? That we're all being guided. So anyway, when we go out to see these white lions, I am literally, like, cannot keep myself awake. I'm like, falling asleep, you know, in the little cart. And Jean and Jean Ann, can't think of her last name, but she was on the trip. She said to me later at dinner, like, how was it for you? Because she'd come a year before and seen

the white lions. She said, how was it for you seeing the white lions? And I said, Genie, and I'm so mad at myself, I come all this way. I can't even stay awake. I can't even stay awake to see them. And she just started laughing, and she said, that's what happened to me the first time I saw them. She said, It's the intensity of the download. And I'm like, well,

Rev. Rose Hope: assistant needs to be in a sleeping state almost to receive the death

perhaps, wow, again, I I'm just experiencing this stuff. I'm like, by no means an expert, and just going, like, what people tell me. And then, you know, yeah, so on another day, we're out going through the bush, I guess you call it. It's basically the wild area. It's called a park, but if there's nothing, it feels like you're out in the wild and you're being taken by a Jeep through areas to end occasionally you'll see a giraffe. You'll giraffes, elephants, hippos, rhinos, and so the driver pulled over, and he said, Oh, this is really rare. We're seeing this creature because they're very shy. Yeah. And so another friend, Emily, she was sitting next to me, and she had the binoculars, even though it was fairly close, probably 1020, yards away. I said, Give me the binocular. Can I have the binocular so I'm looking at and it was the creature so beautiful, you know, with the horns showing up, I didn't know what it was I and I, I'm looking at it, and mouth is moving, and in my head I heard, go, make a great. Success. I've told you this before, but don't forget about us. Don't forget about us. And I just, you know, at that stage of my life, I'm like, It's a crazy thing for me to be thinking, right? Didn't trust it, you know? I'm like, that's crazy speaking to you, literally. It's like he was talking to me, just like those commercials where the baby is talking, yes, and they're most but it's a adult voice coming in. I just literally, I'm sure it was chewing its cut or something, you know, sure. But I said to the driver, what is that called? What is that animal? He said, Oh, he had a South African. That's a Nyala. That's a Nyala. And my friends were like, Oh, and niyala, I've heard of those, and I just fell in love with the name. And I'm thinking, what a beautiful name, right? Because it's got that feeling of God in it. I didn't think of it at the time, but Allah, you know, is it all Muslims? Yeah, their God is Allah, yeah, yeah. So then here's what

happens. I get home, I'm so excited, oh, this is going to be the name. I got to figure this out, you know? And you're going on and on. And then you start talking to people, and you start telling people, and then you get the pushback and this. And you start feeling smaller because people are saying, Oh, no. One's going to remember that name. You should call it something different. I had a friend saying, call it it's so universal. Call it center. Center. People will remember that, you know. And I started doubting it. And then I'm like, Who am I to think I could do this? It's just like pie in the sky. Cheryl, Get off your high horse. People are gonna think you're on some vanity trip or something. Yeah, it's just we tell ourselves, I get it all those things, and it's almost like the universe knows I'm such a weak, limp, oh pussy, you know?

Rev. Rose Hope: What a work, what a horrible story to tell ourselves.

I know, I know. Well, lo and behold. I mean it. During that time I did, I was continuing to study pranic healing. I got into I got into it, heavily, studying it, and I came across a pranic healer who took me on a healing journey, and she excavated many, many layers over months, worked together, and now I've come to believe, even though I found a pranic healer for my physical early back in 2018 this product healer really helped me step into myself. And this is what I felt Henry meant when you could really benefit from a pranic healer, because she worked with me psychically from a distance, even though I met her at a workshop in Los Angeles. Doa Abra Ibrahim, yeah, so where was I in the story?

Rev. Rose Hope: Well, I think we're coming back to Nyala and what you've created, and I think that's a perfect place for us to be. I mean, you have so many powerful stories, and so many times when spirit called you that was so in your face. And I love that you've listened. You know, it takes us many years to listen sometimes, right? And, you know, it's kind of like, I call the spiritual two by four. Usually there's the spiritual two by four that kind of unlocks some things for us or shakes us loose enough to be like, wait a second, there's something more here. So now you've created this beautiful business, Nyala, and you know, practitioners from far and wide can promote themselves, and we as the public who need support can find these beautiful practitioners. So, so I love that you created this. I think this is such a gift for the world. And I'm so glad that, in some energetic way, someone else took the torch that I was bearing for many years. And you know, do you know when I gave the company away? 2020, right, when you started building yours? So there's no coincidence. I just got sharing that with you. There's no coincidence, you know, in us even meeting and connecting, you know, what are the chances? And I love to think about how much has to take place for some of these connections to be made. You know, I had to be free at that particular time. I had to be on that specific event, you know, all the things that had to happen us to converge. You know,

all the things. And I just want to do one final little piece of that Mariela story, when, where I can no longer not trust it is that I was feeling all this pressure about the name, right, right? And I have to the very close friend, Diane, and our other close friend ion, we were on a three way call, like we would do little healing sessions with each other. Yeah? And they're two of the friends that I had been so boisterous about, yeah, Niala, I'm gonna do it well, my girlfriend Diane, she's like, Cheryl, what is it with you today? I feel something is blocked. Some. Things blocked what's going on, and I didn't want to tell them that I was thinking of not using the Nyala name, because I felt embarrassed, right? So I finally broke down and did say it at that moment that I was telling her, yeah, I don't think I'll be using the niola. There was an audible ding, and she's like, Cheryl, you are not going to believe this, but a Naila just popped through on my phone like an image of a Nyala, and she's not a national Greek geographic or no subscriber, you know. So it was like the universe saying, for the love of God, would you please and get yourself out of the way and let us do the work that we're here to do. From that moment forward, it was like, Oh my gosh, okay, I surrender.

Rev. Rose Hope: I got it. I got it. Oh, I love that so much I love that's a perfect way to finish that story and Val sometimes we just need that extra validation. You know? We just need to be reminded that we are being guided and we can trust that, you know, and I love, I love that you trusted that I think what you've created is beautiful. And I can't wait to dive in more,

and I can't wait to hear more about your journey creating this holistic directory.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, well, you and I are going to have a powwow after this and we're gonna, we're gonna exchange some notes along the way. Okay, so I know we took some time with the story, but you had so many beautiful story part components in there. I wanted to really hold the container for you to share, but I want to know what, what are the core messages that you want people to know about your experience, and maybe, perhaps someone listening is sitting with an idea and questioning the idea. What would you suggest?

What I would say is, at least in the civilization, or the the Western civilization, shall we say?

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, the 3d world,

the 3d Western especially, there's not a lot of space to be at least prior like in my growing up experience, to be a spiritual person in the world. And I was reminded of this, like in not too many distant years ago, that in the Indian culture, at a certain age, they would talk to the young person and say, Are you going to be a spiritual person? Are you going to be a family person? And there was a great percentage that would go the spiritual route, maybe 40% but in our culture, it's like, I know now that I'm a healer to my core. Yeah, it's been validated so many times, including by your reading. And I've probably, you know this, this was not something that was ever there was not a lot of avenues to express it, but I'm trying to create the avenue for someone to take that off ramp and be able to jump onto a platform fairly easily. You know that is not Facebook, where a lot of healers do their work, which is nothing taking away. But why not have a space where it's more intentional? This is about healing, yes, and this is where you can have a digital home, and you're abiding by these, you know, by what we call the healer standards. You know, 10 of

Rev. Rose Hope: So, like a code of ethics,

a code of ethics, like doctors have the Hippocratic Oath, yes, our healer standards, yes.

Rev. Rose Hope: This is so important right now because Cheryl, what I'm seeing happening is people are going to all these healers, and some of them are not in integrity, so them have ulterior motives. And so what you're doing is you're creating some safety. Is what I'm hearing.

I'm creating safety. I just heard from Nicholas nagon, who teaches soul contract decoding. I've taken his class in divine healing. Just got an email from him, one of his providers, her site was hacked, you know, and so, you know, this is why, on the niola site, you can enable two factor authentication. We lock down your name, your images that you lock down. And so when people come on, they know they're dealing with another person, a person that I or one of our community managers has talked to, has vetted, yes. And my son, I have a son who's a game game designer, and he told me, Mom, if you're going to make everybody talk to you before they join your site. You're not going to have anybody. I'm like, It's okay, Peter. I'm okay with that. If they're willing to talk to me, then you know, because I just want to know who I'm dealing with.

Rev. Rose Hope: I'm absolutely, absolutely and who everyone else will deal with, especially if you're going to provide a platform for them to Exactly,

yeah, and there's nothing scary about it. I mean, generally, I know, in two seconds, if you have a good heart, and you know, the platform is also, you know, we're going to self police. It like report if you see a problem or if you had a bad experience, right? Yeah, yeah,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah, hold people accountable. So. So from that perspective, you know, you know, I think it's beautiful. Know that it is a platform for people who are in the public that are like, I don't know where to start. I don't know where to look. Right. What would you suggest if someone is sitting there with this beautiful idea and they're like, I don't know if I should do it. You know, you talked about questioning yourself and shrinking up. What did you do to overcome that, to really, you know, aside from listening to the signs that kept coming at you. But what would you suggest for people that are like, I don't know if I should do it, questioning that.

Well, for me, do whatever you can to start believing in yourself more and your greatness. For me, it was listening to Wayne Dyer's CDs that were bootlegged by a cousin. That same cousin of mine, her younger sister, had given me those 20 years ago. And you know, when I moved out of that house, I hadn't looked at those and or listened to them in 10 years, but I threw them in my car, and I started listening to them every day. And you know, Wayne Dyer, he's, he spoke about all the great, you know, roomy, and he brings all of those teachings back, yeah, and the I Am, I started saying the I Am, messages to myself. I am, no longer the babe I am. You know, I can make it happen just those things to believe in yourself. And for me, I have a practice of just sitting quietly, not every single day. I don't make it like, got to do this every day. It's more fun for me to just pull a few cards and journal for me journaling, because I never know what's going to come through. It's almost like a Christmas present every day, like what's going to come through, what's going to be on the paper when I'm done. Yes, see and it's always positive. It's always uplifting, it's always enlightening. It's beautiful.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, amazing. So I love, I love the idea of just us recognizing that we can ask for help. And I think I want to bring that message to the surface, and I want to speak to both you guys as light workers, but also as people that are needing healing too, right? And so, you know, for everybody is this opportunity of being willing to seek, being willing to ask for support. I was one that didn't ever ask for help. I didn't want to be a burden to anybody. Right when we ask, what happens is we allow others to step into their divine path. And so what I'm hearing you say is, you know, yes, we can journal, but we can look for those other people that are resonating for us, that can help uplift us, to help us to shift and to change and to come into remembrance of who we are and and so what I think is so beautiful about all this is now you've created this platform for both the public and the light workers and the practitioners that are that are really wanting to be in service and and I think that is a gift for all of us. So thank you for listening to those inner nudges. We are at our time. So we are going to wrap things up. I feel like we could have a part two and talk about more of this, but for now, everybody, we want to let you know where the website is going to be in the show notes. There is an opportunity. If someone is a practitioner, is there Cheryl, what absolutely do they need to know?

What they need to know is that it's super easy to apply. You just the Apply button is on all of the homepage and various pages, and we support over 106 modalities at this time, and I'm constantly adding new ones because there are so many. So basically the application is your name and email address and the modality you practice. And if you don't see it in the drop down, you just add it in the fourth box you read the healer agreement that basically says, I do have the right to remove you from the site if I want, but that's pretty much it. My lawyer said, do you have to have them sign that? Yeah, you know. And then you check the box and you hit submit. Then what would happen is you get a friendly email saying, choose a time on my calendar. Then we meet, and if you have a new modality, you tell me about it. We create the glossary listing, and then you're on the platform. It's super easy. Oh, piece of cake.

Rev. Rose Hope: And so this creates a platform for people that maybe don't have a website yet, right? Or maybe you just want to get some more exposure in your business and be part of another community. So I think this is amazing. Cheryl, thank you so much. Again, all that information, folks, is going to be in the show notes, so you'll be able to find that just under this podcast, Cheryl, it's been such a delight. Now I'm going to be thinking about white lions. And, yeah, I think, I think that this is such a welcome, you know, conversation around how we can be in service, and how we can listen to that beautiful inner guidance to be able to make the world a better place. So thank you for listening. Thank you for asking.

I really enjoyed this, and I enjoyed getting the word out.

Rev. Rose Hope: Amazing. Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you Cheryl, and thank you for all who listened in today. I hope you found some inspiration in Share. Was sharing in her story and her message. If you're getting those inner nudges, if you're getting the call from spirit, lean in just a little bit. You might be surprised. There might be miracles on the other side of that. Thanks everyone. Bye, for now.

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