Get Your Body Back Over 50 | 102

Oh, thank you for joining me for this conversation about skinny 60. So listen, I hope you will get a cup of tea or your favorite Bevy, and you'll feel like you're having lunch with us when we talk about this. So Christy, I want to start with you, because you joined skinny 60 a long time

ago, and you've done many cycles. And so what made you join, what was, what did your life look like before you did the program?

Christie - Skinny60: So before I did, I joined skinny 60. I was in the decadent detox community for quite a while, just eyeing that skinny 60. I'm like, Oh my gosh, looks great over there. Why? Why are they not doing this? No, I was, and I was like, struggling with IBS, and I had kidney stones, I had I had

Candida, I had some pretty severe digestive issues going on, and it really came to a head when I had kids, because I didn't realize how much I was trying to find the bathroom. And then I have a toddler, I'm trying to use the bathroom. There's a toddler just touching everything in the bathroom.

That's when you really realize you have a problem, and you're like, oh my gosh, I have to do something about this. And the other thing, the other one of the other reasons why I joined skinny 60 is because I had lost my mom when I was 28 to when she was 28 to cancer. And I was reading all this literature and

research about how you can kind of ward off cancer with diet and lifestyle changes. So I was finding myself like waiting for that ax to drop, and I was like, I got to take the bull by the horns, and I got to do something, not only to make my body feel better, but also just to get rid of this fear of, oh

my gosh. When is it my turn to get cancer? When is it, you know, you're not guaranteed anything. But when I was in the community and I see other people that are going through chemo and going through cancer treatments, and they're thriving on the skinny 60 in the skinny 60 community, it was like, oh,

okay, I'm in the Promised Land. I'm in the I'm in the right place. So that was my big driver. That was my big why of why I made the decision to do it. It was the best decision of my life. It really was, besides my husband.

Oh, gosh, I feel honored to be up there with Chris. That's amazing. Oh, thank you. And Christine, we're going from Christie to Christine. What? What made you join? Joins committee 60.

Christine - Skinny60: Yeah, thank you. I think one of the big things was, as I I'm 50, I'll turn 52 next month, and I think one of the big things was recognizing that how I look at food, how I look at my body, is been on from an old operating system. And so when I came across the skinny 60 approach

philosophy test, your way of looking at food, sort of strategically, it worked with the way that my head thinks, which is very strategically. My My work is with money and finance. So kind of like, sort of like, oh, how can I look at this more systematically, instead of just like tossing

like spaghetti up on the wall, like, maybe it's this, maybe it's that I didn't have any digestive issues that were classified However, at the same time, I wasn't feeling 100% you know, I there was bloating, there was gas. I eat fast. I come from a family of firemen, and you never know when the next

fire is going to be. So we tend to eat fast growing up, and so I never really the ways that I saw food and nourishment were from an old operating system, an old modeling that I wanted to shift, and that's when I saw the skinning 60 approach. I was like, this is different, and I want to know what that's about.

And it really came from a place of curiosity. It came from place of empowerment, and it it's what I received. And as I've shared before, I feel that this work has given me my body back, like I get to own this again, and that feels amazing, and that's why I continue to work the program. I made mushroom

asparagus and spinach saute this afternoon, and I'm not in an active, skinny 60 program right now, but I crave the foods and the recipes and the community and reading what goes on in the Facebook forum. I want to know more. I am a Knower. I am a seeker. But at the same time, there's also what it gave me,

was this resonance back to myself, of oh, this is where I get to choose two of what's good, better, best for me in this moment. And so, yeah, I'm looking forward to what's to come. You know, there's more to be the real end.

Isn't that fantastic? And we're all in our early 50s, all four of us, you know, we're in this beautiful. A full space, or it can be a beautiful space. When we're we feel like we're in control of our body and our life. So, Sarah, yeah, what was it for you that went, Yeah, I'm going to do

this. Yeah, I could

Sara - Skinny60: probably fill the whole hour, or whatever. We're here together. I mean, so I was a chronic Dieter. First of all, I've tried everything, you know, I was vegan for years, and then I was did hold 30, then I did paleo. And so when I when I was at a crossroads, when the email came out about skinny 60,

I had just lost my job. I was gaining weight, even though I was eating really healthy. And by the way, Christine, I had the what you ate for lunch. For lunch today. So that's very, you know, I literally crave the same things, and my husband's a fireman, and so anyway, yeah, so also, Chrissy, we'll get to

this. But I have cancer in my family too, so this kind of, this kind of goes with, with why I started it so I I'm terrified of cancer. My grandma had breast cancer. My mom had breast cancer. My mom is still alive. My grandmother is not but I started noticing all these people around me having health

issues. And as I was approaching 50, I noticed a couple things. First, I was carrying a tremendous amount of stress that I didn't even realize I was carrying, right so I was like, Oh, I'm pretty laid back, but I didn't really realize until I started skinny 60 how, how much stress I was carrying in my

body. And so there was that, there was fear of health, and then gaining weight. I just, I mean, that is a trigger for me. And I was doing all the right things that I thought were the right things, and I was, you know, and the weight was still coming on, partially because of stress, partially because I was

about to turn 50, partially because I am an emotional eater, that I realized that not necessarily I always thought emotional eating meant binge eating. So I was like, Oh, I'm not an emotional eater. And then I realized, Oh, when I get stressed, the last thing I want to do is cook, even though

that's a hobby, I just wanted to shut down so we'd go out to eat. Or so the more stressed I would get, the more we would go out to eat. And so when I started the program, I was in a lot of chronic pain. They're trying to figure out if I have rheumatoid arthritis, and I had arthritis probably, and, well, I had pain

points in six places. And so I that's where I was just like, I don't want to live like this. And I was so tired of listening to women talk about, well, this is just perimenopause, this is just the stage that we're in. And I didn't want to accept that. Like, so Christine, like you were saying you got your

body back. I wanted my body back. Like, I wanted the activity back. I didn't want to hurt anymore. And so I thought this has got to be this. Is it like, you know, I'm going to try this. And honestly, I was skeptical. I thought I'm really good at losing 15 to 20 pounds. I'm also very good at putting it

back on. So I was just like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to lose 15 pounds. I'm going to feel great. I had no idea how good I was going to feel. I literally have no arthritis pain at all. It's amazing. I'm not on meds, you know. So I did this all through the skinny 60 program and some other other you

know, wellness, you know, treatment, things like massage and exercise and other things like that. But the biggest thing for me now and and I'm leading kind of a, we call it the skinny support group currently for in my community that I like, gather together every Tuesday night and we talk. And one of the things

that I loved about this program was the good bet, you know, good better, best, because when there's times where I'm like, Oh, this was not a great week. I literally now say, but this is my whole life, like this is how I eat. So if I have a week where I'm not necessarily, you know, following everything as rigid as

I want, I don't really stress about it, because I have my entire life to feel like this. And so that mindset completely changed. It wasn't like it's over in 60 days. It's it's the one thing that's actually stuck.

Let's talk about this freedom with food thing and this new relationship with food that you've all got where your food choices or the stress of it don't drive you. Are in control, and there's flexibility and grace and joy with food. So how has that changed for you? Christy, this, this the

enjoyment of eating,

Christie - Skinny60: the enjoyment of eating. So it's really helped me with my family and just being there and enjoying what they want or what they crave, and then I can have my own little thing that doesn't make my belly feel bad, you know. So it basically gave me an option that I can eat and I can

take to a party or whatever, you know, because inevitably, it's like pizza and beer at every party. So like, I bring a salad, I bring something else so I can enjoy. The the food. I've learned very quickly when I was on the skinny 60 and I was clean, and then I would have a bit of the gluten, and it was

like, Whoa. You really are in tune with how your body relates to the gluten, the dairy and all the other stuff. And for me, it's a no, thank you. I I'm I don't like the way that feels at all. So it's given me the power to kind of, yeah, I can go anywhere and eat anywhere, and I know, you know, a clean protein

and a non starchy vegetable, you could start with that, bring a salad. It just given me so much power over how I feel after, because sometimes I would go places and I would eat just to be like I'd peer, be peer pressured into eating something not so good, and then I'd feel like crappy about it. And I not

only feel crappy about doing that, but my body felt crappy, and I just didn't feel like I was giving my best at all.

Sara - Skinny60: Sorry, this peer pressure of eating. That's the thing that like always this, my late Come, my latest conversation out with people is like, I used to drink, probably, I mean, years, decades ago, 64 ounces of Diet Coke a day, right? And then I would, you know, eat whatever I want, you

know, whatever I wanted to. And the thing that was interesting is nobody said a word to me. And then when I stopped eating dairy or sugar or gluten or, heaven forbid, you cut out alcohol and you're at an event, everybody is like, why would you Why do you want that? Like, why just eat a piece of pizza? It's okay.

Everything in moderation, it's fine. And I just, I just find this concept so strange. So sorry to interrupt you, Tess, but when, when you said that, don't be sorry. It's great you said that about peer pressure to eat. I'm like, why do we do that to each other and like, we don't anymore, because we know. But

why is a human like this idea of emotional eating and that we have to be eating junk to be having fun or feel good, is, is I don't understand it anymore.

Yeah, yeah. Well, Christine, I would be really interested to hear what you have to say about the alcohol part of the do we need this to have fun? Because you had a really interesting journey with that in during skinny 60, didn't you absolutely?

Christine - Skinny60: Yeah, the first round of it was, I did. I think when I chose to become sober a year ago, essentially, it'll, well, it's been, it'll be nine months this coming month. But, and they in the groups that I've been in, they were like, well, don't start anything else where you're, you know, going on

a diet or anything like that. Here I am in the middle of 8060, which is, of course, not a diet, but it's a new way of working with food that's very can be very different from, you know, pizza and beer. And I live in a tourist ski town, so the health there. It looks healthy on the front, but a lot of things are

going on behind the scenes. Alcohol is a very big part of that, and I chose to become sober, and the awareness of the being in groups where alcohol was being served or, you know, with all the other things that go along with it, and the peer pressure was really an interesting contrast now that I

was so not numbing myself out. And I think that that parallel of not numbing myself out anymore with alcohol and food for that matter, because the I used to love to cook, and I never really thought about it until into the skinny 60 program. And as Tess and Megan would say, like this idea of,

like nourishing yourself with the food, have it being in an relationship with cooking that's different than just like whipping something together and quick, kind of like making it happen. And so I was able to really be in my own confidence around the food choices I made, as well as the alcohol choice

that I had made. And that was tough. It was vulnerable. I had sent a private email to test to say that that was what I was doing, just from, I don't know just to share with someone, because I think the parallel of doing both was a big deal for me. And I don't think if I wasn't doing skinny 60, where I

was seeing that, that how I knew how food would work for me, and the choices and the freedom I had, I don't think I could have done the alcohol piece too. Like they actually worked one hand in hand, and that helped me to be out in the social circles, which is a big deal. Like it doesn't necessarily be just a ski town

or anything like that. It's it's we food and drink go hand in hand together. And now I feel like I have more. Choice in the what would look like constriction in many people's eyes.

Yeah, that is so interesting. You touched on the strategic eating before. Christine, you know, we talk about this a lot in the community, don't we, the difference between healthy eating and strategic eating when you figure out how to eat for your body at this phase of life,

and it doesn't have to be restriction necessarily. It can be a lot of different things, but it is about giving yourself that permission for it to be fluid, that it's not static, that it can change day to day, and that we can have all of it. We just find a place for when we choose these things. So, because

you have a strategic brain, how did what was that evolution for you like Christine, because you really did take to it very quickly. But what was the experience like as you kept figuring out where the pieces fit

Christine - Skinny60: for you? Well, it was very puzzle, like a pulling a puzzle together and yeah, point around, you know, I thought I ate healthy because that was what I saw this person do, or that person do, or that Facebook thing, or this Instagram thing, or whatever it was, and none of that

necessarily applied. I what this approach does is like it brings you closer to food and the different types of food and the different profiles of food that work, worked for me, you know, and I could do that by how I felt, how I looked, and so the strategic point again, to the place where people would be

like, Oh, strategy that feels like too scientific or too constrictive, or something like that. It actually gave me a framework where I got to be more fluid in the decision making and more empowered

even at the end of the day.

Christie - Skinny60: So I was, I actually was eating way more. The strategic eating made me eat more because I wasn't enough.

Yeah, that's a really good point. Christy, thank you for bringing that up, because you are under nourishing yourself. Like so many women, so many women are only eating one or two meals a day. We're just brainwashed into thinking the only way to be skinny and sexy and lose weight and keep it off

is to restrict and eat less and exercise more. We're just brainwashed into thinking this. And actually, as we all know, our metabolism needs regular nourishment. Our thyroid needs regular food throughout the day. So that was huge for you because you resisted it, didn't you, because of the ingrained

thinking for months and months, you know, we had to keep, keep saying it to you. We promised just, let's do this. Let's try this, you know. And then eventually you just whoosh, you embraced it, and it flew.

Christie - Skinny60: So, yeah, it took like a, like a cycle and a half before I was buying into it. I think, you know, because I was always like the exercise more, eat less. Exercise more, eat less disappear. And that is just not, not at all what it's all about anymore. You know, the protein allows me to be

stronger. I want to be strong into, well into my 90s. I don't want to be weak, you know, I want to be strong. So actually, that gave me all this freedom to actually eat more. So it was, it was fabulous. And then I was like, Oh, this is how I should be feeling. I got rid of all the digestive things, like the first

cycle, kind of, like, got me out of that, and then I was like, Okay, now let me add this. And now let me add that, because it's such a rich program, and there's so many layers that you can add on to it. It takes, it took me a while to, you know, it's really an education, like it's a nutrition education, like

it you could get, you know, like you're taking a college course on strategic eating, and just layering in all of the nuances. Takes, takes some time and takes some doing. It's not like overnight. So as you progress, you learn better and and you do it better. And it's just, it's just a wonderful thing that just

constantly evolves as you, as your knowledge evolves, as your body is evolving, your diet and exercise and lifestyle, and the strategic eating evolves,

Christine - Skinny60: which is great, I think about this idea about the well, this helped with the community. Like, if we've been conditioned to eat less, exercise more, what a shift it needs to be for us to think about, like, what would it be like to actually nourish ourselves more and feed the body

in a way, and to take a cycle and a half may sound long on one level, but actually that's pretty short, because we've been conditioned for decades and decades around this idea of, like, what it takes to be healthy in whatever. And here we are like, Well, I just think of the mindset piece, and I really

appreciated the calls and the speaking to that test and your team often, because that it's the food and the recipe and the the program. You know, I look. My calendar, okay, is what I'm going to eat today. But then to get over sort of the psyche of, whoa, this is eating a lot. How do I navigate that?

Yeah, and all three of you joined office hours to varying degrees, you know. And we had some pretty honest conversations, and you all really, really dove deep into what was going on and what was affecting your food choices and how that dovetailed into the other choices that you were

making in your life. So Sarah, because you were a business owner and you were at this crossroads in your life, and just how did the strategy and the psychology behind how you were making choices play out for you with regards to embracing skinny 60 and some of the conversations that we had?

Sara - Skinny60: Yeah, it's interesting, because I feel like some of the things I really resonated with a lot of what you said, Christine, because my brain is also strategic, more, you know, not with finance, more with words. I need a little Strategic Finance in my life. I need Christine,

by the way, she's amazing in her business. Let's just talk about this for a minute. But, yeah,

Sara - Skinny60: but, but you know, what's interesting is, is starting, I think timing had a lot to do with it, right? Like I had looked at what who I was up to that point, and if I was going to start my own business, what kind of a business owner did I want to be, and did I want, even if it was, if I was,

if it was me, myself and I or if it was 10 people or bigger, right? What do I want from that? And, you know, I'm a recovering workaholic. I love to work like I love to work. I used to, you know, joke and say, Well, I was granted kids, because that's the only thing that kept me from working all the time and

providing some sort of life. But I like, I like to work and so, but I also know that that's not healthy, because in working so much, I was also like, putting myself on hold. And so I kept saying, when I get to this point, then I'll start doing this. And I'm gonna be honest, I would, I would watch other

women, or my feed was full of all these people that were doing yoga all the time and had these amazing bodies, and they were eating really healthy, and I wanted to be that person, like I really did. I was like, okay, and I would do yoga, and I would do the things, but something just wasn't clicking. And I

think it's because I wasn't really doing it for me. Like I wanted to be that, but I wasn't it. I just wasn't at that place or ready to do that. So when I started my business, and I started skinny 60, almost like neck and neck, and so it was kind of like I'm doing all of this in a strategic way that's

going to make me the best version of me, because it's not too late and and having a milestone birthday in there, I think also helped, because it was like, if I'm going to turn 50, then this is going to be the best next chapter of my life, because I had put so many things on hold, and had have been one

of those people that has a lot of regret from not doing things in the past, and So I didn't want to look back and regret not feeling good, or regret, like, not doing this the best I could. So, like, I didn't want to half ass it, because I wanted to be able to to own it. And so I think there was strategy in

that. So I would not I would get up and I would allow time to do what I needed to do to start my day in a healthy way. And then I would move through the the meal prepping in a way that set me up to be a good business owner and good at skinny 60, because it allowed me to work all of it in. And then I would shift it and

say, You know what? This isn't really working. Like, I don't even love cooking anymore. So now the reason I own my own business is so that if I want to make dinner from scratch at 4pm I can do that, you know? And if I have work to do, I'll pick up on it after I eat this amazing meal. So it was working it in to

to who I am as a as a person, and I think that made a difference.

Yeah, tell me about the leaning into the cooking again, Sarah, because you love to cook. You all, I mean, you all really leaned into the cooking. So what was it about this process that helped you renew your love of cooking, build a different relationship with the embrace this different

way, you know, of cooking and using ingredients. What was that journey like for you?

Sara - Skinny60: I think it was, well, you know, honestly, was trying new things. So as much as I love to cook and I, and I know, when I started, I emailed you Tess and said, Well, I know how to eat healthy, like I'm think I'm doing. All the things I don't eat, gluten. I try not to do this. The food combining

was huge for me, and learning the science behind that. And again, it goes back to the strategy, but I didn't cook with as many things as I do now. So I knew hemp seeds, and I would sprinkle them here and there, but they're like, my favorite thing to put on everything you know and pick like that email

every day, I know well and I didn't, because I was, you know, I was vegan for a while. So it's not that this was secret, like all of this stuff, but, but because you know how to put things together flavor wise, like, I thought that what was going to be the death of me was to give up dairy. I was like, I

can give up a lot, but I just don't. I can't have pizza without cheese, and I still do, like, cheese on my pizza. When I have pizza, however, I don't miss I don't miss it, because there's all this other flavor and there's all these other things. And I do think the community helps a lot, even

whether you're on Facebook and and or now, like here locally, where we have a community, people are like, Sarah, show us how to make almond milk. I'm like, it's super easy. Just watch the video. But it's little things like just seeing somebody actually do that doesn't make it seem hard. So I think it was

leaning into the flavors and the food combining gave me a new sense of energy to learn, and honestly, it was also working on what works from a meal prep standpoint, because I could spend a whole weekend in the kitchen before skinny 60 and during and then really resent it because nobody ate my food, or,

I mean, I would spend all this time meal prepping, and my kids were like, what we don't want, there's nothing to eat. Like, we'll open the refrigerator, like, I literally have, you know, weeks worth of food in there. And so is, is finding out a way that works, like, you know, that would allow me to

keep going and allow my family to be able to grab things if I wasn't spoon, literally, spoon feeding them food. So I think that, I think that's, that's what did

it, yeah, and Christy, oh, you leaned into the cooking, and your family did. And that, that recent post you put in the group all these years later of your son coming back from college and cooking skinny 60 food in the kitchen because he was choosing it. I mean, it's just extraordinary.

Christie - Skinny60: You know, they watched me, you know. And you think, you think your boys are not watching, or think your kids are not watching, but they watched me batch prep on the weekends, and they watched me, you know, experiment with flavors and using, you know, we did expand our repertoire of,

like, using fresh herbs and, you know, peppers that we don't usually, you know, bell peppers. I never ate them raw before. And now the almost Greek salad is like, on repeat all the time. Like, I love it. But my son just had learned, you know, he's like, Mom, we can batch prep, and I don't need to do the meal

plan at college. And I was like, I don't know if I don't want to have a meal plan at college, but he he basically did, like a menu community when he was rooming with people. You cook on Monday, you cook on Tuesday. Who's got food restrictions? Okay? We're going to batch prep this on the weekends, and it was just great.

And he loves to experiment. So like his thing, I got him knives and a knife sharpener because he loves to, like cut different things, and he loves to experiment with different fish and and just, it's, it's really opened up just what he's doing. And it's just amazing. And not only did my boys do that, but

then my daughter signed up for Culinary Institute, you know, with, you know, the not a college at the high school. So it's like, they get to feel empowered, and they come home, and then they cook, and they're cooking much you know, my sons are like, it's so much cheaper, mom, and it's so much better for

you. And I was like, yes, absolutely. But it was just yeah, it's just this, this the skinny 60 hasn't just affected my health. It's affected that their health. They're eating healthier. They're doing things that like at 19 like, what 19 year old is, is batch prepping, you know, rustic Italian soup,

and brain. And I just good though it's so good. And he puts a little because he's not, he's not vegan. He puts a little chicken thigh in there,

which is really amazing. Nothing wrong with that.

Christie - Skinny60: Yeah, exactly. And so, yeah, and I dropped him off at college. I'm like, I need my I need my ball jars because I have to back prep again. He's, oh,

what on earth? Oh, God, I love this. What happened for you, Christine, with the cooking and and what was that journey like for you?

Christine - Skinny60: Well, I just think of now as I think about one of the whatever I want to put together is all right, let me get all these things out. And I'm like, this is the talk about, like, um. Experiencing everything like in life, like I I am an Enneagram seven. I am the totality of life experience

is what I want to be part of. And I look at the thing, and I got this flavor out, and the hemp seeds out, and the coconut chips and the with all the different things, and I'm like, I'm cooking. I think there's a sense of pride that has been has come back to me about cooking and that I with in business, it

feels like nothing gets, like it's done and nothing there's it's always moving. There's always an evolution of the business is evolution of me. And with cooking, I feel like I do it, I cook it, it's done, and I get to eat it all in like an hour, or whatever it is like however, I think of the making

bread. I've never made bread, and here I am in the kitchen, making bread, put it, buying a loaf pan, and everything like that. So there's a sense of pride, like real, just internal pride that I have made something that I didn't buy at the store isn't processed. It's made with my own hands. Um, that feels

good, that feels really good, that feels like a sense of ownership in, again, just how I choose and what I eat and how what I put in my body. And that is something that, you know, Sarah, something you had said, reminds me of this idea of, like reclamation, I think, more than ever, obviously we're giving our

power, or there's a sense of our power being taken away so often, whether it's an illusion or it's not, or all the things, whatever, you know, there's so many levels to it. But this idea of of reclaiming our ways with food, I think, is like a revolution. It's, it's, you know, especially for us women,

where we've just seen so many messages on how we're supposed to be with food, not eat it. Eat it. You're too skinny, you're too fat, you're too all the things I grew up in a family, like, you couldn't be skinny enough. Like, that was the thing. But then here's more food. Like, why aren't you

eating? Like, why aren't you getting and so those messages, yeah, you know, had an impact on me, my mom, my aunt, my cousins, and so, you know, inviting them to new ways of eating. And even my, I don't have a kid, but I got a husband, you know, showing like, it's revolutionary what we're doing, you know, and this

is, it's good. It's really good because it shows up here, but it also shows up, you know, just my ownership of who I am as a human on this planet. Ooh.

Let's talk about this flow on, effect of when we are feeling fantastic. We feel really great about what we're doing. We feel confident and in control. You're all business owners. You are all married, and you know, Sarah and Christy have kids and Christine, you don't, I don't, but we are still, we're

in all kinds of different relationships with other people. So how has this sense of empowerment and having control and the good better or best, not perfect, philosophy that you've all been speaking about too? How has that flowed on to other parts of your life? So Christine, what's happened in

your business, in your other relationships, and how you feel as a woman, because you feel so great? Well, I

Christine - Skinny60: think of it as you know, there's something about confidence that can feel like almost posturing, you know, like I'm coming I'm gonna be confident. I'm gonna walk in this room confident. I think there's a natural just, I know myself better through the lens of food that I mean,

there's many lenses for us to grow personally, you know, business wise, through money, through food, through relationships, whatever, in this lens of food, me understanding myself better with food allows me to be a better human out in the world. But it's not from a like, I'm better than someone

else. It's just an internal confidence that I have that's natural, that other people are like, What are you up to? Like, what's going on? I want to know more, and I think you know, and I get to share intimately with people of like, well, this is happening and that. And like I said, combining the food and the

alcohol awarenesses for myself have been really key. People are like, you're you're eating different, or I see you out, you know, not drinking, or you know what it what? And it's never from a place of that I want to be like, I know better that, you know, especially with my husband, like, that's a great

example, because obviously, we're of the most intimate of my relationships, is with him, and it's just a natural entrainment, almost, of like, oh, well, I'd like to try that. You know. A mushroom strogan off that way, you know, or, you know, just sick because it's out of curiosity, because I'm so

psyched about cooking it and making it happen, and it feels good. And so I think the ripple effect is, is natural to Sarah's point about being a what kind of business person I want to be, you know, I think that that also feeds into that. Like, what would that look like? Do I want? You know, what do I want to be

eating so that my body can sustain of the business that I want? Because then we got no body happening. There's no business happening, as we know. So the ripple effect, I think, will continue to to evolve. And at the same time, I'm continuing to learn in it. It's like this reciprocity. It just keeps kind

of cycling back. And I love that, you know, it's, I'm very grateful for the the awarenesses, but also what I'm still learning.

Sarah, we had a pretty honest conversation in the first week about perfectionism and being so hard on yourself. And to your credit, you really dove in from the get go with that. And it was really extraordinary to see what happened and the flow on effect in your life because of it. So

what was that like for you, looking in that mirror right from day one? Pretty much,

Sara - Skinny60: well, I'm a three on the Enneagram.

And you know. So, you know, of course, the first thing I did when I got, you know, done with that conversation was that I failed, like, because of what I said. Like, I was, like, thinking I was going down this rabbit trail of what I said. And why do you want to share

everybody with, with everybody what you said, just so that we can,

Sara - Skinny60: I'm trying to remember, like, I think, not

verbatim, just a bit of a, yeah, like, I think

Sara - Skinny60: it was I just, I said, I think I might have even said I'm not an emotional eater, or i, i is something about The, you know, getting it right, and you just kind of, like, laid into me and just said, You got to go deeper than this. And I was like, I've known you for five days. And the thing

is, is I will say I really liked you from the minute I met, like, exactly I mean, and so I wanted to please you, which, again, is a problem, because I'm a people pleaser that but wasn't, but it was cared so much about pleasing other people. And it goes back to that whole notion of not doing it for me, right? And and

you, you were just really, really frank with me, and just kind of said, like, this isn't going to work. And I And honestly, I'm not going to take and, you know, and I responded an email and you said, I'm not doing this with you. Over email, you would come to office hours because I was, like, trying to

justify what I was saying and what I was feeling. And like, no, no, no. And then I thought, how can a human being who has only met me on a computer screen, know this about me in all of 30 seconds, like I was just at first, really pushing back, and then was like, oh my god, I'm upset, because she is

right, and if I don't embrace this, it's going to be like every other thing I've ever done, and I know that this program is about food and it's about gut health, but it's not just about food. So when we only talk about the food, and that is, you know, that is why we're here to get healthy, but it's so

much more than that. And if we don't look at it like more than that, it's just going to be another thing that we've tried. And I think why it sticks for people is the people that really do dive in and say, wow. And you know, Tess, you said one thing, like at one point where, and this isn't verbatim, but like

that, that you are a coach that uses food as a vehicle to get people to understand themselves, and I think about that a lot, because, again, so much of what we do is is around what we eat, which doesn't also make sense as I'm saying that out loud, because we're bigger than that, and we're more than that, and so

yeah, I mean, I just knew if I didn't dive into the emotional part, then I wasn't going to be a life change. I was going to lose that 20 pounds that I wanted to lose. And I you know, and for me, honestly, as I started to work through this and realize how much stress was was a factor in my life, which was

one of the things that you really pushed me on. It was. Also that when I started sleeping again and I started feeling better, and like I'm at social gatherings, and everyone's talking about what they're doing to try to help themselves sleep, and I'm like, Oh, I'm sleeping all night

because I cut out. I don't know, sorry, not sorry, but, you know, so, so I think that once you start feeling better, and again, it comes back to that whole notion of claiming your life back. And you know, I, you know I'm pleasing people all the time, but at my own detriment, like, why am I not pleasing

myself? And this is because I feel so good I know now that I've given myself the same amount of dedication or loyalty that I would have given to somebody sitting across the table, and that's never happened, even though I thought it was happening.

Yeah, look, I remember our conversation vividly, and just as an intuitive Coach, I know if I can push somebody or not, and I knew that you could receive it, and you did. So thank you for that, but it does need to be done face to face, which is why, when you emailed me about it, I said we

need to talk about this face to face, or because emails can be read so many different ways. You need to hear the intonation of my voice. Need to we need to be looking at each other's body language, to kind of feel safe with each other to have those kinds of deep conversations. But yeah, to your point, you know,

we use food as a portal of discoverability to understand what drives all of our choices in this community, because we get to do it every single day, multiple times a day, to seeing who we are and how much love and respect we have for ourselves. And so that's why I think that it is such a powerful vehicle

for us to really look at our choices without judgment, just with curiosity. And are we nourishing our bodies and choosing to feed the strength and the power and the joy and the love and the all the things, or are we using it to punish ourselves, to hide, to placate, to run from who, who we want to

be, you know? And so for those who really embrace that piece of it, and not everybody has to, as you pointed out, you know, you can just eat the food and look at the science and have a wonderful experience too. But all three of you really used it to go on that journey. So Christy, oh, gosh, you did, do

we have had many, many, many conversations. You were nodding your head. I thought your head was going to fall off of Sarah,

Christie - Skinny60: I mean, the office hours for me was just, you know, and you would, and I would always know when you'd say, I'm saying this with love. I'm like, Okay, let me, let me prepare for this. But you know what you know, and I'm a spin instructor and everything, and you're like, you've got to get

off that spin bike to nowhere, that spin bike. And I was like, using my, what I thought was a healthy addiction to moving my body. And I was hiding, I was hiding a lot of hurt and pain and things like that. And it's like, oh, I can't really eat, so I'm going to really run myself ragged and burn both ends of the

candle exercising. And so I was like, wow. And it took me a long it took me a few, a few sessions, I'd say to finally hear that. And the other thing that she said, you said to me was, I'd had kidney stones. I think when I started skinny six he was like, for 12 years. And I said, Well, I just get kidney

stones. It's who I am. And you said, Why are you accepting that? And I was like, Huh, why am I accepting that? And, you know, I had been through every doctor. I'd been every and you just said, You've got to go to a different doctor. You've got to go to another doctor, if they can't figure it out, you go to

another doctor, you go to another doctor. And I was just like, wow. And here I am, like, two years later, you know, having suffered kidney stones for almost 14 years. Now, I know I knew that I needed a surgery, that that other doctors were missing, but it was that encouragement of, why are you

accepting less of life? Why are you accepting this limitation that somebody is putting on you? And you're like, Wow, huh? So now, when I have clients, and I'm like, I'm able to then ripple it out and, like, well, you know, she's like, I just can't do that. Why? Why do you think you can't do that? I just

can't do that. I'm never going to be able to do that. I'm like, can we put the word yet at the end of that? Like, can we even, can we just try a little so it's, it's interesting, the ripple that that it came, you know, I'm feeling so much better in my body. So my, my kids actually have a mom like, you

know, because I was just so I wasn't, I wasn't fully participating, you know, I was all or nothing. And Tess, you called that from like day two, you're all or nothing, and life happens in the middle. And I was, I was either on that spin bike, busting my bike. What or I wasn't doing nothing, you know,

and I wasn't enjoying the nuances of life. I wasn't allowing myself to to be in that space in between this balance point. It wasn't all, it wasn't nothing. It's of this balance of eating healthy and enjoying your kids and enjoying your life and being present. And I was missing out on a lot, and you know, some

therapy later, which you did encourage me to go to see a therapist, which, you know, worked for a while, and then I realized that I really needed to do more body movement to kind of release and everything. And what's really cool is that Tess has a lot of people around her and in her community, that if

Tess isn't the, you know, the one to talk to, maybe there's someone to help you get together. Maybe you get together with Kelly, and she's going to help you through the shamanic you know. And I went on a I went on a healing retreat with her, and I had such a breakthrough just moving my body and getting

out in nature and being with other women and and being held in this great container. And I think in skinny 60 there's this great container, whereas when we're on office hours, you can see yourself in just about everybody. And if Tess is when, when it's almost like, when Tess is talking to you, kind of

almost can't take it in, because it's at you. But then when she's working through the same thing with somebody else, and you're like, Okay, I get it. Like there'd be times where I'd be crying, like I would be processing when she's working with somebody else. Because I could see myself in that person.

I you know, I can see, you know, and learn from their going through that. Okay, this is where I was okay. What? You know, this is a natural thing. We all think this way. We all need help, and we all need everyone to kind of be together in this community, to make it safe to feel and say what's

actually going on, because there's so much pretense. Oh, I don't want to say that. Oh, I don't want to put myself out there. But if you don't put yourself out there, then you're not fully feeling, and you're not fully doing, and you're not fully in your life. You're not swimming in the water, you're

just sticking your toe in and I needed to learn that. And I learned it. I learned it very well, and I appreciate, I appreciate the nudge there, into the pool, in the pool, you go.

You guys might be scaring some people about me. What made you feel safe, Christy, to share so openly and vulnerably like that, even though our calls, they're public, in the sense of anyone in in the cycle can watch them, and they're not public, you know, for the whole world to

see. But you're still in a group setting.

Christie - Skinny60: I think it's just knowing that you're going to hold everybody, you know, we're all going to be kind. We're not going to you know, you have these ground rules that we set from the very beginning. And you also, you know, in your life, you share what's going on with you, you

know. And you know, to hear about your dad, and I was so happy to read that your dad's doing so well, and that the oncologist doesn't want to, doesn't want to see him anymore. And so when you become vulnerable and you're sharing these things, then it kind of gives everyone permission to go,

Oh, okay. Then I can kind of peel back the onion a little bit and kind of show what's going on. And then when I do that, then someone else does it, and then, and then it's this ripple effect. And then now everyone is, is kind of like blooming, right? We're not the tight little tulip. We're all blooming

together. You know what I mean? Like, it's almost like we're that artichoke, you know, like, you know, and it's so beautiful when it blooms. But we kind of keep ourselves tight because we don't have permission. We don't feel like we have permission to bloom, and then it just just knowing that, oh, she's

blooming, all right, I'm gonna bloom too. I'm gonna,

oh, I love that, and I love that. That's your logo for your business. Yeah, it's so beautiful. I know you really respond to that imagery, which is so wonderful. Christine, what was it like for you? Because you are more private? You sent me that private message, and I said,

Yep, there's a way that we can talk about this without, you know, revealing, as much you know, to the rest, you know, to the rest of the community, if you don't want to, and then you really chose to share, you know what? What was that shift for you? Like, yeah,

Christine - Skinny60: yeah, the your ability to be bold and see me, particularly that instance with the email around, you know, the alcohol and stuff like that, allowed me to see myself, and I think in that way, coming to the in office hours, where it was in a public and I don't know, you know, everyone in the group, or

anything like that, I. And I am relatively private, was if this is the community that Tess is building, then it's safe for me to share in whatever way, and I will be held and me sharing and being witnessed in it, in the way that I was primarily with you, to start at that in the group. Beyond that was was

something I needed. It was as if I called that in because I needed to have it voiced. There wasn't many people I could talk about it with here in my local community at that stage, because I was there right at the beginning. And so I think it's your ability to boldly see people and and share that. That

is there's a trust factor there that allowed me to share vulnerability, which is a my growth edge, for sure, and be okay with that like I wasn't being I knew, I mean, I just know that I wasn't being judged. And that was around the alcohol, it was around the food. It was around like, what that I that I

ate fast, that I ate sloppy, that I ate like, all everything was welcome, and I just knew that, whether it was said, unspoken or spoken, I don't recall, I just felt it coming into the group that I could come with all of the goop that comes with food and my history of food and eating and body, and it's

All welcome. And what's a glorious, glorious thing is that it's so inevitable that we're all feeling similar things often. You know, the story and the nuances may be different, but at the end of the day, there's similarities, and it's like, Yes, me too. I feel that way. I'm so glad there's

somebody else that's also feeling that. And to Christie's point, about like you sharing your journey in different ways, and different things have been going on, of course, then it's like, okay, then this is safe. And if we can't share in safe places, then the shift will not happen, because that judgment

will continue. And this is one of those topics that needs less judgment around it, and that's tough, and with all of the input that's happening and has happened, so I'm, you know, it's shifted the way that I hold groups. It's shifted the way that I share and it's made me a better person. You know, just

for my own self, I I love that idea of like, I made this decision for me, it wasn't to present myself differently out in the world and the way that my body looks or feels or anything I was like, this is a choice for me. It's going to be a challenge, because not necessarily, my husband's going

to be on board, not that he didn't want me to eat better, or anything like that. But it was something Tess and I talked about in the group, and just this idea of, like, I don't know if he's gonna eat this food or I'm gonna have to make two different meals and stuff like that. And we've actually worked

our way into some sort of symbiotic relationship with the cooking and the meals, but I did it for me, and you open that space for me to look at all of this very vulnerably and use that and use food as a mechanism for understanding myself better. So it's, it's awesome, like, I think it's just great. And now I

have this new relationship with food and, like, meeting all these amazing things. And yeah, like, what? How better? How much better it can get now.

Well, as we all know, it just keeps getting better and better. Doesn't if we decide that those opportunities are there for us, right? Which is so great. I want to ask you all about this grace that we give ourselves, not judging ourselves, not being hard on ourselves, knowing that

everything can be on the table. There's a place for everything, and we don't have to be ashamed of any of it. We can meet in this place of acceptance and celebration for all of the things that we are and give our imperfect offering. You know, this good, better or best, not perfect. And we find that so

challenging all of us. We talk about this a lot in the community, don't we? We speak to ourselves in a way that we would never speak to our loved ones, you know. So how is the good, better or best, not perfect? Philosophy changed things for you, Sarah,

Sara - Skinny60: it's freeing. I mean, you know, as a as somebody who needed things to always look a certain way, I mean, it's, it's strange, because I was a perfectionist, but at the same time, an over. Over share and extremely vulnerable in a lot of cases, right which those two kind of contradict each other,

sometimes because you don't want people to see who you are if you're not perfect, if it's messy. But I that when it came to this, I think that phrase, and even today I still I think about it like at least once a day, it's what kept me going, and it's honestly probably the thing that kept that made this

successful for me. Because before you know if I did something, if I was on a plan, or I was trying to do something alone, and I would go off the rails, or, or, or I would do something that wasn't, you know, the way I was supposed to do it. I'd say, well, I'll just start again the next day. You know, we

hear that just in our local group, we were talking, and someone's like, I'm the start again. Monday girl, I'm the start again. Monday girl, you know, whatever. And with, with that phrase, you don't have to be that person, right? Because I knew that if there was a if there was a phase, or whether it

was a day or whether it was a week, that I was doing good, I knew that then I could grow on that, and if I still felt the way I felt good, I can't imagine how I would feel if I was doing it best, you know, and so it gave me this, like, something to work towards all the time, because I needed that. But also

grace, I mean learning how to give myself grace, like, if I didn't, if I didn't, work out three days a week, I now I can give myself grace and say, there's a reason why you're not doing that right. If, if I didn't do something that I thought I would do, or instead of beating myself up or or

replaying conversations in my head before I went to bed at night or when I woke up in the morning, like all of it just goes, because it's like my mantra, I feel like I should get it tattooed on my body. Reminds myself. I mean, this is, this is the way that it should be. Do you know it's always freeing,

and I feel like I'm enjoying living because I don't. I'm not tied with this, like what's next, or the stress of doing something not to the way that I wanted to be. I still want to be one of those girls on a wellness retreat that is kicking butt, but you know, like I'll get there.

Well, let me tell you, because I know some of those influences. All right, you're seeing one little sliver of their life, and let me tell you that they're thinking that they're not perfect, and all the things too, I assure you, yeah, Christy, you and I have had many conversations on how hard you

can be on yourself. And so how has, how has the flower opened for you with the good, better or best? Not perfect.

Christie - Skinny60: Well, the flower needed some, needed some watering, and some, and some, maybe some new soil, and some different things. So I did, I did have to go through therapy to kind of get to the root of that, you know. And I read like a quote, like, You got to get to the root and kiss it all the way

up, you know. And I had to find out what, where this was coming from, where was this very harsh voice in my head coming from? Where was all this judgment coming from? And then, once you figure out where that is, you you dig up that root, and you you know, you're like, I don't need this root. Or you find a

way, you know, and you find a way to live without that, that very harsh voice in your head. But, you know, you you, and it took, it took some time to do, to get to get to that, to get to the exact thing that was that was happening and and not only that, I had to then prevent myself from from carrying that

on, like handing that to my to my children, because, you know, it was handed down, and you can understand that that it, whatever that behavior was, was handed down to my parental units, which were handed down from their parental units. So it's like coming to the do the hard work, where you're breaking

that cycle, where you're holding that space and you're giving grace to yourself for not being perfect, but you're also giving, giving and forming this new relationship with your family and doing things differently, and there's going to be resistance there. So that was, that was really big part of the

work for me, really big, and it I'm a better person for it. So now I can see when other people are not giving themselves grace, and I'll be like, can't you? Can you give yourself a little grace to your Would you talk to, you know, would you talk to me like that? Like you totally wouldn't. I mean, I have so many people.

I'm stupid. I did this. This is so stupid, you know? I'm like, No, you're not stupid. You know, you made a decision. But let's, let's see if we can. Figure this out, and then they'll just say, well, I, you know, I'm not going to do this. I can't, you know, I can't do this. But let's just say, yet. Can we say the word

yet at the end of that sentence? So that way it feels like there's somewhere to go with that, to give yourself the grace. So it my it's helped me with my ripple like, tremendously, tremendously, and I'm approaching them from a place of calm and a place of not as as hyper. You know, that was

one of the things test you're like, Everything can't be a 10. Christy, everything cannot be a 10 out of one to 10. Because I was like, it's a 10, it's a 10. And because my body, my nervous system, was just all jacked up, you know, and, you know, not eating the gluten, not eating the dairy, not eating the things

I was reacted to. And having this power and control gave me control over my nervous system, which then gave me control to be able to kind of step back and see things differently, and then it just improved everything. All of my ripples have, you know, all of my people in my little orbit have benefited from me

being in the skinny 60 and doing the work, doing the hard work. I can't say it was easy. It was hard, but I was there for it, and I was happy to be nudged and and, you know, I needed to do the work. So I really appreciate that test.

Oh, well, thank you for doing the work. And it's, you know, everything is easy and everything is hard. We choose where we experience our easy and our hard with anything. So I opt for front loading my heart so I can slide on my stomach and enjoy the ride. What was the ride like for you with

that? Christine really embracing that, and, yeah, living through that? You know, as somebody who is strategic and wants the answers and wants to put it in a box or on a spreadsheet or, you know, working with numbers and these tangible things, where we were going on this very intangible journey together, in

addition to the tangible nature of making the food, yeah, yeah,

Christine - Skinny60: yeah, no, in my world, two plus two equals Four. So there's, it's, it's, it is, it's finite. I like options, though, so good better best was better than good or bad. It actually expanded the pendulum swing to the other side. And I had never heard that phrase, and I was like, Okay, this is great.

And that element of just there's options, like, it could be good, better or best. Like, what's my I have a choice here. And so I thought that that was really, really cool. It was super helpful, and it helped me through the several cycles that I did go through with skinny, sexy and even now. And I think I

learned a lot about compassion for myself, which is essentially this idea of grace and how between the idea of how the food can nourish me, and then how I'm speaking to myself compassionately about how I'm eating, or if it was good, better or best, or Whatever, it was, on the spectrum and not

perfect, those two things together. I was like, this is this became kind of easy, and it was softening, and it was and I was feeling better. So I was like, Well, this is better than, you know, hating myself or degrading myself and making mind like, you know, what's that carrot in the stick kind of

thing? Like, well, if you do this, then that, you know, you better do this, and then you'll get that. I was like, No, that doesn't work anymore. And I have the a similar phrase of like this, like, love yourself forward, because that's the only way we actually grow is through loving ourselves forward, and

again, through this, this lens of looking at food and eating strategically nonetheless. You know, relatively there's some formulaic piece to this. I grew in my own self compassion, and that is, I think, stunning. I really do think that's stunning. From my point of view, it's stunning to see in others, and

it really puts us all like with this, the humanity brings the humanity back to us living in this challenging time and challenging world. So if we're not, you know, if I'm not speaking to myself kindly, gosh, you know, it's not coming really from anywhere else necessarily. And I'm not saying that it's not

coming from my people or my loved ones or anything, but it, it, it really anchored in me, that it starts with me and I it's, again, not a trait that I grew up with. It's not a trait that I learned, or was, I mean, I worked on Wall Street for like, 12 years, it was definitely not so, you know, and

like, work harder, work harder, work harder. And here it's like, no, this is the way forward. And I really feel that for our world right now. And. This women upstream a little bit about it. So to speak about it here, I love it, and to have our the listener, kind of feel into like, what might that look like?

I think is really, really neat, because it's there's an invitation test here, through this work to understanding our own element of self, compassion and grace

Absolutely, and we are being called to be careful and mindful, as opposed to careless and mindless. And it's needed more than ever before, and it it absolutely starts with self to your point, and every experience is an invitation to return to self and to pay attention to how much personal

responsibility we're actually we're actually practicing in our lives and what we're contributing to. What is our offering? What are we supporting? What are we being? What are we putting out into the world? And we don't control the world, but we certainly play a part in creating it. And so

what? What? What part are we playing? And I really do take your point about that into my heart and something I'm constellating around every day as more stimuli comes in about what's going on, what happens when we are careless with ourselves and each other. So you've all been talking about

what life looks like now because of skinny 60 and the empowerment and that you feel and the knowing of yourselves better. What does it look like in terms of the grace and the balance in an everyday way of what your relationship with food and self care looks like now that that you're all out of active cycles

of skinny 60, you know how? And we can even not even call it skinny 60, just the Sarah, the Sarah way of life, the Christine way of life, the Christy way of life, right? You take what you like from the program and you leave the rest, and you're able to pick and choose the tools that you pick up out of the

toolbox at any given moment to help yourself feel strong and healthy and present, as you've all been saying. So Sarah, what does that look like for you?

Sara - Skinny60: Now, I've been thinking about that a lot in the last 48 hours, because, you know, I joined the second cycle for me, and so it's coming to an end. And, you know, at first, I was like, I'm really scared of it ending. And then I thought, Wait, no, I'm not. Because I know how to, I know how to do

this now, right? And I and I, and because I feel better. That's kind of, you know, I I started this because I wanted to lose weight, and obviously I wanted to feel better, but it's not about weight anymore. It's about quality of life and feeling good and waking up and not being in pain. And so I

think that lose weight and you were happy with that. Yeah, no, absolutely, you had all these other things you weren't expecting, which, yeah, in perspective, the weight thing, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sara - Skinny60: And I think that part of that is, is that, that that was my focus for so long, that to release that part actually made me more successful with that part. And so, like, moving forward, knowing now if I if I cannot think about because it's a trigger for me, you know, and just say, No, this is a

lifestyle that does allow grace, but, you know, I don't. I don't have to offer myself, if this makes sense, like I don't have to offer myself as much grace on a day to day basis, because so many different habits have been formed that make me who I am, that I'm really proud of, that it's not like, Oh, you messed up

again. Do you know? Because I've just noticing, like, this is part of who I've who I've become. Like, we went on vacation last week, and I only probably went quote, quote, unquote, Off Plan, like once or twice, and I find myself just naturally gravitating towards the things on the menu, like

skipping completely over the appetizers and skipping and like looking for those things, because I want to keep feeling good, and it is giving me this sense of confidence. And so I think it's, I think that, like on one hand, I do think community helps. I think that, you know, leaving, leaving a

cycle and and kind of disengaging from the community is hard to kind of maintain that feeling that you have, like when you for when you're in the community and when you first come off. I would be really interesting to hear from Christy, because you've you've been off, Christine, I don't

know how long you've been out of the community, but where, if we stay isolated, if we don't stay connected with people that are of like mind, whether it's in our own community, or whether it's the skinny 60 community, it's easy to fall back in our own habits because we're with people that won't be as

vulnerable. We are or aren't, you know, ready to make those changes or are, but you don't feel like you have that same maybe they're in a different way. So I think finding those people and being tethered, at least for me personally, is something that's very important. So I'm very thankful for the

community here in Kansas City, because there's so many of us, and so being able to to we're going to actually have quarterly reunion meetings just to see and do touch bases so that we can stay in touch.

There's hundreds of you now. It's amazing. I'm sorry. I should have clarified that you was you still had a few days left in your in your second cycle. It's just because you and I've been emailing about the kind of on this thing of, oh, yeah, what's happening next? What's happening next? Year I

had that in the rhythm of my body, and so I apologize for that, because, yeah, you still, you're still actively in this cycle, right?

Sara - Skinny60: I am, I am, but I am. Yeah, I'm not as afraid to come out of it. But I would love to hear more from those of you that have been out of a cycle longer, how that works?

Yeah. And you know, you and I can speak about this, and I can support you through that, but you've got this, you know, you do, right? And this is the cool thing, right? If you don't, you just post in the Facebook group. Hey guys, this is how I'm feeling, and everybody will chime in.

That's what's so great about it. You know that we're all holding space together, and we're all teaching, we're all learning from each other. We all have something to contribute. It's all of value, and somebody else is feeling it too, as you all pointed out during this conversation. Christy, why don't

you share you know and respond to Sarah about what it's been like for you because you've been out of skinny 60 for a while now, and you're doing great.

Christie - Skinny60: Yeah, I'm doing great. You know, I was in skinny 64 for a while. I was a yearly, a yearly person, and so what during during the cycles, I added on the layers, and I made sure that, you know, I had the behaviors that I was doing, the lemon water in the morning, the glutamine. So all of these

things I still do, I still brush, I still oil pull, I still do all of these things. And there'll be some days where I don't do it, and I'll be like, good, better, best, you know, I didn't get to do my lemon more today, and then I'll do my maybe I'll do a little chlorophyll water in the afternoon or

whatever, but it becomes part of your rhythm, and it took me a little while to get that rhythm, especially when you're not in an active cycle. But, you know, I can hear Tess's voice in my head, you know, I hear it lovingly in my head, good, better, best, not perfect. And I basically have, I'm an

entrepreneur now, so I have my own business, so I'm able to then make my schedule around, you know when I want to do, what I want to do. So I have slow mornings in the morning, because I find that if I don't do my lemon water and my glutamine in the morning, then and have my protein rich breakfast, my whole

day is bummed out, so I have to really take care of myself first. So I think that's one of the things that's changed in my new like rhythm. It's it's the self care is coming first. The self care is scheduled. It's the non negotiables. I call it the non negotiable time so you know. And so funny. My son just bought

me a new lemon juicer because he saw me with the hand. He bought me this euro one. It's like, and I'm like, Thanks, hon. But it's like, it because he knows that this is part of what mom does. And he's like, I'm gonna make it faster for you, mom. She go, and I'm like, Wow, this thing, it's heavy duty, that thing. I was

like, whoa. But what's really cool is that when I'm making something without, like, all the all of the salad dressings you need, the lemon juice, like, done, we all want one of ours. I know it's great, it's great, but so, like, even my kids know that this, these are non negotiable times, and it's like there's

sacred times that are just for you. So I work out, but I'm not working out three hours a day anymore. I'm working out my half hour. I'm doing my, you know, I'm putting in what I need to put in. And I'm and I i meal plan. I actively meal plan every Sunday with my husband and with the kids. What meals are you

wanting? Are you craving this week, you know, they wanted African stew. They wanted veggie ramen, you know. And I'll, and what's great is that they eat it. So they eat the African stew with with real rice. I do cauliflower rice. They do. I make the veggie ramen. I'll make the noodles separate. The rice

noodles separate for them. And then they, you know, and then I'll put my zoodles in at the end, you know. So it's like, we plan it's become like a family thing, where I'll be like, Okay, this is what we're making do. What? What else? What do you what else do you want this week? And I called my, you know, my

local Stop and Shop, and I know when they're getting a delivery of produce, so they get it on. Tuesday morning. So I put my order in Monday night, and then Tuesday morning I go and pick it up. And so I've basically set myself up with these non negotiable times that I food plan, and I've got, I've got my

weekly thing of what we're having every single day. And I know, like, if I got to run my daughter somewhere we're making we might just take those little ball drawers out. You know, I always have, I always have soups. I always have lots of soups in the refrigerator. So when I'm like, or the freezer,

so when I'm like, starving, I can always grab a couple of the little bar jaws of soup, and then some nuts and seeds. And then I've got, like, my backup plans. So it's, it's all about doing that because you want to feed. You want to be the best person every time. You know all the time. You want to present.

You know, especially when working with clients, you want to be upbeat. You don't want to be lethargic and feeling sluggish because you ate whatever you weren't supposed to eat. So it's, it's really having those non negotiable times and make and putting yourself on the list first, and self care first,

and then everything else will come, come in. So that's what worked for me. So yeah,

I love it. I love my work is done. My love, oh, my goodness.

Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Tell tell us the one thing. We'll be dying to know what the one thing is.

Christie - Skinny60: Well, the thing this, this thing is so anyway, we always talk about, well, in the decadent detox, we talked about colonoscopy, you know, not colonoscopies, but doing colon hydrotherapy. Yes, that's what I'm trying.

Listener, the decadent detox was a program I used to run with my dear friend Karen Kidd for many, many, many, many, many years. So just so that everyone's in the loop about that. Yeah, sorry, no, no, not at all.

Christie - Skinny60: It's really cool. And I have like this data, you know, because I know we always like the data. So when I was, you know, and I was doing skinny 60. I was just in, I'm in the perimenopause. I'm still cycling. Lucky me at 54 yay. But what's Lucky me, and everyone's like, it's because you're so

healthy, Christy, that's why you're still ovulating. I'm so happy. But, you know, because I was going through that, I was really becoming insulin resistant, and so my latest blood work like my, I'm not my, my fasting blood sugars are great. My a 1c are great, much, much better. But what's really

cool, and I don't know if we have data about this, is that, you know, I had an IBS and I had diverticulitis and diverticula, and I got my latest colonoscopy, and there's no sign of any kind of diverticula at all in my colon at all. So who knew that you could get rid of that? I didn't know. So the training, we

talk about the, you know, and you talked about the training of everything. I just wanted to, you know, I like to talk about poop.

Now, my, you know, I love to talk about poop. I mean, anyone that's not looking in the toilet bowl after they poop, it is such an incredible indicator of your health. I'm all about poop, you know. I like to look at poop. Wow. That is so great. You had a similar thing, didn't you? Sarah, where your

blood work was It was impressive. It was amazing, right? Like, like, we can talk about how great we feel, and isn't that amazing, but when you get your blood work back, and you're like, all my numbers are back in normal range as well. Look at all these clinical testing. I mean, you can't argue

with those results. So you also had amazing blood work, didn't

Sara - Skinny60: you well? And since we're talking about poop, I had a poop test also, and it was funny because there that there was one, and I don't, I can't remember exactly which part of it, but then when I was going over it with the doctor, she said, I'm really surprised that this isn't elevated, and

this, this should be elevated if you're, you know. And I said, Well, I just came off a skinny 60. And she goes, Oh my gosh. Well, keep doing whatever it is, because it was, and I wish I could remember which which part, but it was something that they'd seen that with some of my other blood work that was supposed to

not like it wasn't. They weren't going hand in hand, which was great. And so my test came back actually better than I thought. And yeah, all, a lot of my blood work had changed. And so it'll be, it'll be really interesting to see as I, as I go through and have more blood work done. But yeah, I mean, that was, that was

exciting.

So great. I love it when people tell me about their blood work and their poop and their sleep and their energy and their lack of inflammation and aches and pains, and it's like, oh yes, welcome to the Promised Land. Yes, we can feel amazing our body's over 50. So what does life look like for you

now? Christine, you want to. About poop with us too,

Christine - Skinny60: looking in the toilet as well. So obviously, a byproduct of this program.

Maybe that's the other t shirt or the mug next to good, better, best, not perfect. Tell me about your poop.

Christine - Skinny60: Well, gosh, I don't know. I think, you know, we got a linear program. For me was also

Christie's like, we've sort of backed you into a corner.

Christine - Skinny60: That's totally, totally. That's how you stay connected after you leave the community. What's in the toilet?

Christine, tell us about your poop if you don't.

Christine - Skinny60: I do think that you know on the inputs of it. One of the things that helped me was the reminder of the food, you know, like be still be connected to the food, and the making of the food and stuff like that helped me, because I was concerned about leaving. I was like, should I do

another cycle? But I felt like if I did another cycle was almost for the wrong reasons, in a way, because I was grasping onto something. I said, I have to go play this out in real life and see how it looks. Yeah, we talked about that's not for everyone, but totally.

And I went, you go. Now you've got this. You can do

Christine - Skinny60: this out of the nest, totally. But, yeah, I'm still in the I'm still making the recipes. I'm still looking at the Facebook group. I want to hear what everyone's up to, I'm researching Vita mixes because I'm not getting the slivered almonds as creamy as I would like. You know, it's now.

It's just a part

of me. We all know that I've sold hundreds of 1000s of vitamixes in my career.

Christine - Skinny60: You know, here we are talking, you know, having coffee talk on, you know, Tess's podcast, still in this and feeling what I felt. You know, I my last cycle, I think, ended at the end of the last year, about all this, and it's still so right there. It's still right in front of me. It's still

so, and I know when I'm making that food, and it's just, you know, that's the connection for me that still feels like it's, I'm, I'm right in with the the wavelength of all of us, anyone who's going through the cycle currently. Um, I think that that's really neat to hear and see the questions that I see in

the Facebook forum. Um, of, well, I have the of, you know, this is new, and, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it stays with me so it can't not like I can't not now know, and be in this vibe.

So yeah, good stuff. Yeah. Thank you for all three of you for paying it forward, paying it on and helping the new people and the existing people. And, you know, it just becomes this really beautiful, well, it is this beautiful community where everyone's just supporting each

other to be the best they can be. And thank you for Sarah, you know, creating this, this physical community in Kansas City with Dr Michelle Robin, and it's just doing extraordinary things for people, because we just need that connection, don't we, we're wired for connection. We want to feel like we're not

alone. We want to feel like, you know, we've got people rallying around us. We don't do things alone, you know, and we don't have to do them alone. And it's so much more fun, you know, when someone else was what I did, this is what I did this. I got my kids to eat this, or this is how I'm making you know this,

and it's wonderful. So thank you so much for playing a part in this. I loved our conversation. I'll be laughing my head off through the rest of the day now. It's so fabulous. So I always close every episode with the same question. I'll ask it of you within the context of what we've been talking about, we're

all in our early 50s, you know? What? What would you say to a woman out there right now that just doesn't think it's possible to feel amazing and feel in control of their bodies at this age? What would you say?

Christie - Skinny60: Christy, I would say just you gotta, you gotta give it a try. You gotta give it your best, your best try. You know you you don't want to settle for what you have right now. You know it's almost like your future self is is calling you to be the best person you could be for yours,

not only for yourself, but for your family and friends. And if you're not feeling good, you're not putting your best foot forward. So just try and I would say you're not feeling good yet. I'd always say that you're not feeling good yet. Just put the word yet there.

Oh, we could put that on a t shirt. Let's do that yet at the yet. Yeah. What would you say? What would you say?

Sara - Skinny60: Sarah, oh, gosh, well, my first instinct is that it's a lie, right? Like, I mean to tell yourself that you can't feel better is, is a lie. Like, it's hard, but you you can, you know? And, yeah, I just, I remember, I lost my dad suddenly almost five years ago, and I just remember how much

pain he was in and watching him and I, and this was before, obviously anywhere near I did sick any 60 but my heart broke, and I was just like, This is me in 26 years, if I don't try everything I possibly can to feel better. And so I'd say, you know, you just, you have to do it. What is it worth? You know,

because the other end is, I mean, it's so worth it to come. I mean, just even, you know, to be able to do things that you couldn't do because pain was holding you back is insane. I mean, the feeling that you get from that, we talked about all that on this call, but I would just say it's it's not true, you

can feel better.

Christine - Skinny60: Christine, yeah, I mean, on the heels of that, you're worth it. You are so worth it. And there's a part of you that once felt good, and that was probably has been clouded up with a lot of crap over the years and the decades. And this is a moment a time, an era of Reclamation and

reclaiming that part that felt good at one point, even if it was a little glimmer, and this is an opportunity, and that's how I felt about it. I felt like this is like a hand handing, putting its hand down, saying, Come, let's, let's do this together. And I think doing together to Tess's point is it's

much more fun, it's much more supportive, and then we have this whole community. You know, you aren't alone, and you are so worth it.

We are worth it. Yes, thank you so much for the way that you all show up in the world and show up in our community. I'm so incredibly grateful for all of you.

Christie - Skinny60: Thank you. Tess, thank you. Thank you really, really truly, from the bottom My heart my family and friends all Thank you. They know you.