How to Transform Your Relationship with Money with Marla Mattenson

Your financial birthright means you were born

worthy. You're here on Earth. You are a person. You have a

body. You are worthy of your financial birthright, which is

to consistently receive more than you need doing what you

love. And so, I teach people who are business owners how to

consistently earn more than they need doing the work they love,

and and that alone, that statement. If you allow that in,

just that statement alone will start tuning your body and your

vibration up to a different claim than probably you're used

to. So we're used to just getting by or getting what we

need when we need it, and my claim is the birthright of every

human on this planet is to be able to consistently earn more

than they need doing the work they love.

Hello, beautiful! Welcome back to the New Truth

Podcast. Welcome back, Marla. I'm so stoked to be here. So

freaking happy to have you here, and to have you here, we should

have looked up the the title of our other podcast episode that

we did. I think it was around relationships because you really

are an expert in both love and money, but you are the most

badass woman I have ever met in my life around money and and

frequency and worth and living fully into our worth around

money as women, and this is such an important conversation. You

know, women haven't had money for very long. It's been like

since the '60s or something. I'm sure you have more info on that,

but this conversation is so important. We've never had

someone on an expert on to talk about women and their

relationship with money. So I am so happy to have you here and be

doing this with you.

Amazing! Wow, that's incredible. I will say I

am not the expert on everything money. I am the expert on some

things, money, and so I think that's important to mention. I'm

still absolutely learning so much about money in all kinds of

ways, and so I want to share what I've some of the things

I've learned along the journey. I was just telling Zoe; she's my

almost 17-year-old stepdaughter. Last night, nobody really taught

me about money. I mean, I learned very little from my

family. Mostly secret thing, keep things private and secret,

and don't ask for help unless it's urgent. And you know, just

not nothing. I had to go out and find mentors and learn and

unlearn about money in order to be where I am now. Which is, I

don't worry about money. I don't really even think about money

all that much, except for I, I have chosen to put money as a

priority in my life, and it's still, I'll I'll tell you, it's

still slightly uncomfortable and also not natural. It's not the

thing I think about on a on a regular basis. I choose to focus

on it.

I love that, and and I love. I I don't know if

I'm paraphrasing exactly, but the the prioritizing of your

relationship with money, and that being a choice, and how I

mean, I think we're all we're all innocent. I'll say we don't

know what we don't know until we know, and now we have choice.

And I just think how many women are disempowered around their

relationship with money, even if they make really good money.

There's still so much dysfunction in women's

relationship with money, and I imagine because there's so much,

so many things happening underneath that are so much

deeper that I know you'll get into, but I think that it's such

a beautiful thing. I feel like that's what's inspired me around

you, and why I wanted to have this conversation with you, and

how you've inspired me as a friend over the years. Just

because there, to me, it's like how you hold yourself around

your relationship with money, and I think women, you know,

it's not something we talk about. It's not something we

learn about. And isn't it crazy? Like we all have to have money.

We all have to make money. We all have to to to to spend all

this money to live on this planet. Animals don't, but we

do. And and yet nobody teaches us how anywhere.

It's it's almost criminal. It it I rarely

should. However, I will make an exception, and I believe we

should be teaching not just women but everybody about money

and financial literacy and the energetics around. Money in

grade school because that's when it's easier to learn, and the

challenge with that would be all of the parents of the children

learning these things, and the teachers who would be teaching

those things would need to be on the journey of embodiment of

financial abundance, and and really have activated what we

call your financial birthright, and to me, I'll just jump right

into that. Your financial birthright means you were born

worthy. You're here on Earth. You are a person. You have a

body. You are worthy of your financial birthright, which is

to consistently receive more than you need, doing what you

love, and so I teach people who are business owners how to

consistently earn more than they need doing the work they love,

and and that alone, that statement, if you allow that in,

just that statement alone will start tuning your body and your

vibration up to a different claim than probably you're used

to. So we're used to just getting by or getting what we

need when we need it. And my claim is the birthright of every

human on this planet is to be able to consistently earn more

than they need doing the work they love, and that statement

carries an energetic that if you claim it, I consistently earn

more than I need doing the work I love. What starts to happen is

you start to hear two voices arise at the same time. Ooh, I

love that. Yes, I want that. Oh, yes, that is my birthright. And

you lean in, and then the other voice comes up, and the other

voice says, "No, you can't. Never

have that. You never have that, right?

That's the legend. Yes, right. It starts to

sit. It starts to poke at it, and that's exactly what we want.

We want both of those voices to arise at the same time. We want

both of those voices to arise with equal value, not

overvaluing the good, lovely voice that's saying yes, I can

have this. Equally valuing the voice that says no, you cannot,

because that actually voice is where all of the gold is to

excavate and sit with and be with and and transmute it so

that actually the whole thing lifts, and then the as you lift,

the voices you hear change. They get more subtle. They get more

nuanced. They lose their power of shame and blame and wrong

making. And well, I never learned that, and nobody taught

me, and you know all of those things. And then you start

moving into solutions, and you start becoming aware of

opportunities, and where you're leaving money on the table, and

where you said yes when you meant no, and you people pleased

instead of asking for that raise, or instead of saying, "I

don't want to work at this job anymore. I want to do my own

thing. I want to get out there, and I want to do the healing

work I've been practicing. You know, so I'll pause on that.

It's I just think like how many women carry deep

deep shame around money, and you know, and the golden handcuffs

of staying in the job. This is a consistent conversation that I

have with women I work with. Is that once they really start to

tap into that soul frequency and like the truth of who they are,

they're like, oh God, I cannot fit into that square peg

anymore. Like the the the the thing they've been doing, the

golden handcuffs, like doing the thing. And a lot of the times

they make great money, but they're not enjoying any of it

because they have golden handcuffs doing this work that's

sucking the life out of them. That I think that I feel like

that is such a common place for women to end up, where it's like

maybe on fantasy on paper it looks like they have you know

the financial wealth, but it's not real wealth because they're

not really satiating in

it. Right. Okay. So let's get into let's

get into this. So what even is money? Let's let's just start

there, because there's so much story around. Well, I have to

stay at the job. I have to do this. I I can't do anything

else. I don't know what else to do, or I don't have training for

something else. Whatever, all of the the thoughts that might

arise at the core. Money is an idea. It's an idea, and at the

at the original idea of money was intended to be helpful. So

instead of carrying around 12 bushels of you know. Fruits in

exchange for you know your cow, you know you we made this thing

called money to say oh these these coins are gonna represent

all of this and so when I exchange your cow for these

coins that's that's the new value right and then we had in

the United States we had what's called the gold standard, where

in Fort Knox in the United States we actually had gold that

represented all of the cash in the United States flowing in

dollars and coins, and then the gold standard went away, and we

don't have that money backing anymore, and so money is truly

an idea, and money is not only currency of you know dollars or

euros or shekels or you know yen or whatever the currency is

around the globe. Money is also now in the form of crypto, and

in a barter exchange is still a thing. People barter. I mean,

when I was a body worker, I was a massage therapist in my early

20s for about 15 years, and I used to do all kinds of

exchanges. Anybody in the healing arts does exchanges. You

know, I'll give you five massages in exchange. You make

me a handmade lamp. Okay, I did that. This woman, this one

woman, made these gorgeous beaded lamps, and they were, you

know, 1000s of dollars. And I was like, I will exchange my

services in for a lamp, right? And I loved that lamp. So barter

is still alive and well, and money is changing. We are in a

time of great transition and global economy, and we are

something new is emerging. So, even getting stuck on money as

the main form of payment and receiving and paying your bills

and income and expenses, all of that is changing as well. So the

idea is, can you look at money as just a pure idea, and then

start taking a look at how you lay storylines on top of that

idea of money? And by the way, if money is too tender of a

topic for you, you can do the same thing with time, because

time is also an idea. Both of these are constructs that humans

created to make life easier. However, we have lovingly taken

on all of these ideas and used them to harm ourselves, this is

what we tend to do with with as humans. We take on this idea of

money, and now I'm going to use it to shame myself. I have this

idea of time now. There's not enough time, and I'm always

behind. I can't get everything done. Now I'm time shaming

myself, and so we're using this pure idea to harm ourselves, and

so the idea is to look at how can we shift our ideas of money,

and I'll expand that to time as well, because sometimes it's

easier to notice where you're in lack mentality around time, and

make that shift first, and now you're moving beyond lack

mentality because you're not in the frequency of not enough, not

enough, and you start moving into the frequency of there's

more than enough. There's more than enough time for me to do

what I need to do, and I can just let it go at the end of the

day. And whatever got done got done. Whatever didn't get done

didn't get done. And I'll have my list for tomorrow. And I

always have an ongoing list that never gets accomplished always,

because there's always more to do than you can get done. And

that's the beauty of having a vision in life, having a

purpose, right? So I'll pause on that. How about

the idea of money and the idea of time. I love

that. Whenever I feel freaked out about how fast time's going,

I'm like, it was made up. It's a construct. It's not real. And

and and and two, what I love about what you're saying is

that, and I feel like it's connected to the number one way

women sabotage their relationship with money. But

it's like how we relate to the thing, and what's our what's our

perception of the thing, and our energy around the thing. So how?

So you say, okay, change these perspectives, or have I can't

remember the exact language you used, but how are we doing the

money, and what energy are you bringing to it? How does someone

who has no idea how to change those stories? Go about doing

so.

Okay. Okay. Great. First of all, you nailed

it. It's how we relate with these ideas. Okay. So that's a

that's a really important piece. Now, when we talk about the

number one way women sabotage their relationship with money,

it's. Concept called vibrational accord. Okay, so we all know

that we are both particle and wave. That we are everything is

in vibration and tone in our world, and some things move at a

faster vibration, and some things move slower. And we have

we basically live in this dense field. We call it the common

field. That's our 3d world reality. Where you know, I have

this necklace and I can touch it, right? I have these curtains

and I can touch them. I have this computer. Can't touch you

physically right this moment, but when you're in person here,

then I can hug you. Right, and so right, lots of hugs. So we

have this common field that we live in, and this field is

filled with fear. It's filled with fear. It is part of what we

live in. We were born into this field of fear. That's not a

problem. It's just a suchness. It just is true for us. However,

we can feel that humanity is uplifting, and as we uplift,

there is debris. There is detritus on the side of the

riverbank. Okay, and this is basically what humanity as a

whole has created over all of the years that we've been here,

so before we can really uplift as a whole together, we have to

look at what we've created-all the wars, all the violence, all

of these things. Women tend to be more tapped into those

things, and we don't want to participate in those. And so we

shun those aside, and we want to only skew into the positive.

Now, if we go back to what I said of holding both voices at

the same time, the one, oh yes, I want my financial birthright.

I deserve to consistently earn more than I need doing the work

I love, and this negative voice is the voice of fear. That voice

will be coming with you on the journey. It does not dissolve

and go away completely, and so because even if you only

surround yourself with the most amazing people in the world, and

you only have high high vibe conversations, et cetera, go

home and be with your family for five minutes, and you'll

remember that things are different in the dense field

where people are not doing the same consciousness work that you

are, so we all have that experience. So we all uplift, we

all drop. Okay, so now that we've normalized that, the idea

of vibrational accord is to understand we are in constant

manifestation. Instant manifestation is always

happening. We're always in instant and constant

manifestation. So the idea is, what have I manifested? And we

take a look around. So the easiest and fastest way that I

have found to take a look around is a claim. And if we do this

together, you'll start noticing the other voice that arises.

Okay, so here's the claim. You ready? Ready. All right. The

I am at complete peace with everything in my timeline

from conception when I was conceived, all the way through

this present moment, I am at complete peace with everything

in my timeline from conception through this present moment. And

if you're like a normal human, all these little voices will pop

up to go. I don't know about

1998, right?

What about right? And then and then the

list pops up. So what you do is you just capture that list.

Don't analyze it. Don't do anything with it. Don't spiral

into the depths of hell around it. Just capture it. Write it

down, or record it. Record it in a voice note, okay? And that's

the first place you go to heal. Those are the first places. The

first ones that arose are the first ones to heal. It might

have nothing to do with money. It might have nothing to do with

time. It might have to do with something else tender. All these

tender moments where your needs were not met, where you were not

met in equality, when you were not met with love. Those

traumas, little t or big T traumas, are lingering in our

past timeline, waiting to be loved by us in our current

state, and so this one exercise-if you do this-it

doesn't cost any money. The only thing it costs is you must be

willing to let go of the old. You must be willing to release

the old storylines, and isn't your final. Financial birthright

worth it. It might have no connection to money at all. It

might be something that you know, like you know, when I ran

away from home when I was 12, I had an experience where my

parents basically made an announcement at my junior high

school. Has anyone seen Marla Mattenson? And if so, please go

to the office. She's missing, and I was mortified that they

did that. Although they were terrified, and I had left at 330

in the morning, I wrote a little note that said "run away from

home" in my calendar. I had two duffel bags packed with my

clothes. I took a box of Ritz crackers with me and put that in

the bag, and $60 of my Hanukkah money, and I was ready to go,

okay, and I left. And when I came back, I came back primarily

because I still had braces on my teeth, and I was like, "When I

can't have these on forever, so I came back. And but that whole

experience and how they handled it-they were very loving when I

came home. But the aftermath of dealing with people asking me

questions about well where were you and what happened that

brought up so much shame in me that that was one of the things

that I needed to clear when I was going through this exercise

myself and I have lots of things that I've needed to clear so the

idea is you can do clearings in lots of different ways you can

look that up on on how to clear things from the past, or you can

also just be with it. And something my therapist taught me

was Marla of today go back to that moment where Marla of the

past was experiencing that, and you sit with her and let her

touch your face and say, "Look, look who we are now. Look who we

are today. What you're experiencing is has a purpose. I

know it's painful, and I'm here with you, and you know, and

yeah, that was bullshit. And you you become that voice of the

adult of the loving presence of the adult for your own past

self, and it is so loving and so healing. And you sit with

yourself in your mind's eye in a meditative state. You can do it

sitting. You can do it on a walk. You can be in nature. You

can be in the shower. You can do this anywhere, and if you take

the time to do this for just a couple minutes a day, the

timeline of the past will, like a dominoes in both directions,

clear itself. And then, when I now say I am at complete peace,

complete peace with my entire timeline from conception through

this moment. It's true, yeah.

And this is I have more energy for this present moment to

receive more and be more, because part of my energy is not

holding at bay the shameful experiences that I've had over

my life, which doesn't mean that I don't still have grief arise.

It doesn't mean I don't have sadness about certain things

that happened to my life. Still, it means that I am at peace with

everything that has happened, and sometimes there's some

grains of sand that come up and go. How about this? So it's not

like you're

done because new

things are also always happening. So I'm

curious, how is learning about this one claim exercise for you?

Beautiful. I just I just think it's such loving. It

just it's it's just such a loving way to accept what is one

of my favorite books is and she lives in Ohi, Byron Katie,

loving what is, and it and I remember like studying her stuff

way back at the beginning of my journey, like 20 years ago, and

and to be able to to see the gift, and I think like so many

women that when they're we're at my immersion, they come to a

moment where they drop to their knees and they're like, "Oh my

God, that heartbreak, that like devastating loss, that tragedy,

like that led me to my awakening, that led me to

healing, that led me to this sisterhood, that led me to my

this expanse of life. Like how every single thing is like a

curriculum, a universal assignment for us to become who

we're becoming, but our smaller selves just want to look at the

the past and and be a victim of it and and you know be be angry

about it or hold on to resentments around it and how

then we're keeping ourselves in captivity. So everything you're

seeing is like you. When you actually are willing to love,

and it's not to negate the feelings, but to love up those

parts, and to hold those younger parts, but also like encourage

them, like, hey, it's going to be worth it later, and to to see

through that lens, what a gift to be able to actually see that

it's all a part of the becoming.

Yeah,

every moment.

That's right.

Yeah,

that's exactly right. And I'll say, at the end

of that exercise of going back and and being with your past

self, you can be with your baby self. You can be with yourself

in your mom's womb. You can be with your two-year-old self,

10-year-old. You can be with yourself from last week. Okay,

so all of these aspects, whatever is still not at peace,

will arise as that other voice. and And the idea is, then you

say, "Sweetheart, you won't remember that we had this

conversation. You'll only remember that everything is

going to be okay. Yeah, and and then when you do this exercise,

I say you really need to do it at least five times. Okay, the

first time is emotional, or maybe you feel a little

disconnected. You do it again. You do it a second time. You go,

okay. I really I can feel this. You dive in again. You do it a

third time. You get another level of connection with your

past self. By the fifth time, you have a very deep connection

with your whole timeline of this life, and you can feel, oh,

there's been ups and downs, and you know what? It is helpful to

reflect back on those downs with love and care, and not go back

to just relive the story and go back into blame and shame and

wrong making and judgment and all that, and depression and

sadness. To use it as for a purpose to be productive with

it, and when you do this and you do it sufficiently, what happens

is you start to realize pretty much exactly what you just said,

which is, oh my gosh, there really is a gift in every

challenge. There's a gift in every moment, so therefore every

challenge that greets me now, I view as an opportunity rather

than something destructive or horrible. Right? Even the things

that are destructive and horrible, when we name and claim

them as destructive and horrible, what happens is now

we're creating this separation between us and this horrible

thing, as opposed to saying, "Oh, there is a challenge

present, and then I can go challenge accepted. I will go

through this challenge with as much grace, ease, joy, and flow

as possible. And when we greet that, more opportunities come to

us, and we don't have to only learn through challenge. We can

also learn through love and pleasure and uplift. And so

everything starts to shift when you do this one exercise to

clear your past and love your past, love every single moment

of your past. Period. Then this wellspring of energy starts

coming through you, and you become open to your true

purpose, which is being a beacon of light on this earth, being

the light that you already are. And because there's less dark

spots of shame and blame and wrong making and sadness on you,

you become more translucent because you're you don't have

anything to hide. You can be transparent. You're not ashamed

of your money situation. You're not ashamed of how you treated

that person all those years ago. You have no shame anymore. You

you might have some sadness. You might have some lingering grief,

like I do sometimes, but it's not filled with shame. You're

not making yourself wrong or anybody else wrong about it, and

so you have more energy to pull from and draw from and be in

this moment. And then you call opportunities to you just by how

you be. That is how I've built my whole business. Is the

energetics of business. It's not through advertisements and

traditional marketing.

Yes, me too. Actually, every facet, and and

and I okay. So I have a question for you. What what is your

stance or your your your belief about? Because I feel like

there's a lot of people hold different beliefs about purpose

and about like actually because you you what's the statement

again? You get to have more than you need doing what you love. So

do you believe consistently? Do you do you and your website

almost so beautiful? I love I love that statement so much. I

love more than you need rather than we were talking about

earlier, like. 10 figures in your business every year, or

whatever. It's like these, like masculine, like concrete. It's

just like the. It's a feeling. It's feminine. It's like more

than you need. I feel like, oh, that sounds amazing. It's like

you have everything you need, and you have more. And um, that

like you said, that could look different for every person. I

know, you know, some people deeply long for a deeper, more

meaningful purpose that's aligned with who they truly are,

especially like the women I work with. Once they start to

realize, like, oh my god, I'm so different than who I thought I

was. Do you believe that everyone has a deeper purpose

that they that's actually connected to making money in the

world, doing what they let? I mean, I imagine you do based on

that statement. But tell me about your perspective around

that. Does everyone have a deeper purpose to do something

they love, where they can also make amazing money?

So that's a great question. I don't believe

that everyone's purpose is connected to earning money. I

believe everyone has the same purpose on Earth, which is to

shine as their uniqueness in the world. For some people, that

also includes using their unique gifts to make a business out of

it and earn money. For some people, it's to work for

somebody else's business and help them shine. For some

people, it's to align. I mean, this is how we all do it

together. You know, I we specialize in my business. We

specialize in remote teams, and how do you have that intimacy

and innovation and feedback and enjoyment of your business when

everybody is remote, right? And so, I do believe that those who

know that they have a desire to earn more and receive more

financially do have this birthright, and so that's it's a

very individual knowing. And so, and how do you know if it's you?

If you are listening to this, and the idea of consistently

earning more than you need doing the work you love turns you on,

feels like relief in your heart, inspires you, uplifts you. Then

that's your birthright. It is for you. And if you're like, I'm

good. I don't need that. That's not for me. Then you know that

you don't. Then that's not for you. And so maybe you have a

trust fund and somebody else pays for your life. Maybe you

have a partner and they are doing what they love, or they

earn more than they need, and so you don't have to you don't have

to make a business out of what you love to do. I do believe

that everybody has a unique gift that they are meant to share in

the world, and for some people that's for a financial exchange,

and for some people, it's for to volunteer, and you know, this is

why I teach something called unreasonable rates, charging

unreasonably high rates and unreasonably low or free to

offer your services to people, and so it's it really is what

you are in vibrational accord with. Being in accord with

something means, you know, like like the chords on the piano,

right? Like you are in harmony. You're not playing necessarily

the same note. You're playing different notes, but they are in

harmony. So you're in vibrational accord. First of

all, you're always in vibrational accord because

you're here on this earth. Now, what you're in vibrational

accord with, consciously of what you're aware of and

unconsciously, that's why this exercise of I am at complete

peace with everything in my entire timeline from conception

through this moment is essential because you will find the things

you are in vibrational accord with that you wish were not

there, and if you don't go back and address them and look at

them, one minute, one minute it takes. Just you go back and you

get faster and faster at like loving yourself through this

experience. In the beginning, maybe it takes 510, minutes,

right? And over time, you learn how to be with those past

versions of yourself that arise during that claim. So, loving

what is really loving what is implies you also love your

entire timeline. You love your entire life because how can you

be in this moment and love this moment completely when you're

hating something that has happened before. It's not

possible if there's hatred or shame or guilt or wrong making

or judgment or depression or sadness about something from the

past. It also exists in this moment because why? Time is a

construct. Time is an idea, so everything is always happening

in this moment as much as it happened in our minds in the

past or in our minds in the future. What's only happening is

in this now. So in this now, you are the sum total of everything

that happened in the past, everything healed and unhealed,

and that is what is creating what's possible. For you

financially right now,

right, and also all the past stuff that we're stuck

on then gets projected onto the future. So then we're in we're

in like anxiety about the past and fear about the future, and

you know when we stay stuck in that place, missing all the

moments because we're so busy in anxiety about the past and fear

of the future,

right, right. And what do they say? Anxiety is

like a praying for what you don't want, or worry. Worry is

it right? Worry is praying for something you don't want. To me,

by the way, worry. Let's get into worry for a second. It's

very tied to money. Okay, so worry again is a frequency and

worry. We were taught, especially as women, that worry

means love. Worry means we care. That we oh, I'm so worried about

you. Are you okay? Right or oh, make sure you call me when you

get home. I don't want to worry. Right? Those kind of like it's

it in some cultures it's like highlighted that if you don't

worry about your loved ones then you're cruel or you're mean or

you're selfish or narcissistic or you know replace any of those

words, and I remember having a conversation with my mom. Okay,

my mom is in her 80s now, mid 80s, and probably about 10 years

ago, I had this conversation with her. She said something

about being worried about me, and I said, "Hey, mom, can we

talk about worry? What, like, just kind of get into it for a

sec? And she was like, "Okay, and and I said, "When you worry

about me, do you think that that sends me like uplifting energy,

or something else? And she goes, Oh no, I guess no, no, I

wouldn't say it's uplifting, right? And I went, Yeah, what do

you think it does send to me? And so we got in this

conversation. It was really amazing, and she's like, "I

guess it sends like concern, worry. Like, I hope you don't,

you know, anything bad doesn't happen. Like, and I said, "Well,

what are you wanting to send me? Like, what are you wanting for

me? And she says, "Well, I want you to have a great time. I want

you to enjoy. Like, it's usually around travel or something, and

I said, "Oh, that's awesome! That's exactly what I want from

you. That, and in fact, you don't have my permission to

worry about me anymore. I'm not a child, even though I'm always

your child. I am not. I don't need or want worry vibrations

sent my way, because there's nothing to worry about. All is

well, all is okay. Even when all is not well and all is not okay,

all is still well and all is still okay. So you don't

actually have my permission to worry about me anymore. So would

you be willing to shift that? She said yes, and so we. She

does not worry about me anymore, and it has changed our

relationship dramatically. And then maybe like a few months

ago, she said something about worrying about me, and I was

like, "Oh, do you remember? Do you remember about worry and and

like what's what's the deal with worry? She's like, "Oh, that's

right. I'm not. I don't have your permission to worry about

you. You know, she gets her little curmudgeon voice. You

know, but she honors it. She honors it, and she knows that's

my preference for how I want to live. And I also have said,

look, you can do whatever you want. I just want you to know

that none of your worry vibrations are going to reach

me. They're not going to be welcomed in my field, so it's

basically doing it for nothing. So if you want to send me

something, be intentional and send some good vibes.

And and and what a gift for her! Like, I did. Do

you feel like that impacted her seeing everyone differently, and

like how what kind of energy she was putting out in the world, or

or do you feel like it just was with her relationship with you.

You know, I I think it actually turned on her

awareness to listen to what other people worry about more,

and then so I think it expanded her awareness around worry in

general, and then listening to other family members and friends

and how they worry, and she's like, "God, everybody worries

all the time.

Yes, there is so much

worry.

Yeah,

worry is contagious.

It's like everyone just like keeps feeding each

other's. And my my mom, when I was a kid, actually used to say,

"I was a worry wart when I was young, like 1112, I was always

afraid of earthquakes and afraid of like I had so much worry, and

my mom would always be like, no matter what I was worrying

about, she'd be like, why are you worrying about something

that hasn't happened? Like, why are you freaking out? But like

she she was so not a worrier, and I was like, whoa, okay, no,

go ahead and forget me.

I have two things to say about that. First

of all, worry is a fear vibration. So, like I said in

the beginning, we're in a dense field of fear, and we're in a

dense field of fear because our nervous systems are wired. It is

part of our mechanics as humans. Every human has a nervous

system, even if you don't have your arms and legs. And you

know, if you are a human, you're alive. You have a nervous

system. Okay, even if your brain is not fully developed or your

nervous system is not fully developed, it's still there. So

we have fight, flight, and freeze, and those three

responses. We also have fawning, but that one's learned. Those

responses are automatic. They happen, and they are a signal to

our nervous system, and our nervous system then interprets

that as safe or threat. And how threatening is it? Is it life

threatening, or is it just you know because you looked at your

bank account and you don't have enough to pay your staff, or you

know oh I I looked out the window, and oh, it looked like

there was a snake out there, but no, it's just a stick, you know.

So, or I'm on a hiking trail or something, and I hear a rustling

in the things. Like, for example, I was hiking behind

this hotel with a boyfriend of mine in my late teens, and we we

were drunk. We were hiking in these hills, and all of a

sudden, I heard rattlesnakes. Okay, and I grabbed his hand,

and we start running down the hill, and we start sliding, and

then I realize it's wet. And when we got down to the bottom,

I realized it was the sprinklers that had turned on in their

hillside. There were no rattlesnakes; it was sprinklers.

But you know we were drunk. I didn't know. You know. Anyway,

this was a hilarious party. So fight or flight. I was

activated. Okay, that the fear response has a purpose in us. So

then the second thing I wanted to mention is when you were

worrying as a child, you were also and still are very, very

sensitive. So it's highly likely that you were in worry for the

collective around you. You were tapped into the worry that was

going on in your home that wasn't spoken about to you

directly, or in your community that wasn't spoken about. But

you were the vessel for receiving other people's fear

because you are one of those very open, clear channels, and

and when you are like that, as a child, you don't know what to do

with all that, and if you don't have a human adult as a guide or

a non-form botan, you know, someone who's not in form as a

guide, you know, like that's why we have imaginary friends. We

have, as children, we have access to the unseen world in a

way that we don't as much as an adult. By the way, I teach how

to access that again because it's way more fun to have your

unseen world friends work on your behalf. By the way, that's

how I do all my marketing is through my unseen world staff.

Wow! And

just to come back, and we can come back to

that. Which that's a that's a fun bunny thing. But as a child,

I was also like this. I was feeling the collective in my

environment, and so your worry might have been-it's possible

you feeling the frequency and vibration of people around you,

and it just came out in a way that they could understand,

which is worry about something because you couldn't articulate

what was actually going on inside of you. I'm just curious,

how does that land for you?

Yeah, that makes sense. Perfect sense. Yeah,

yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. Because the world, especially, I mean,

at least now there's a little more resources around being

highly sensitive beings, but but the world back then didn't know

anything about

it, right, right, and dismissed it, made

it.

Oh, I was for sure, and I grew up with amazing

parents, loving family, and yet I was I was shamed. I had two

brothers, so I was the only girl, and they didn't understand

me. So I was like the sensitive one, the emotional one. So it

was always a thing that I was sensitive and emotional, and

like, oh, she's just sensitive, she's just emotional, or you're

too sensitive, you're too emotional, which I imagine so

many women relate to.

I completely relate to that, and that's it's

the thing that I was also made wrong for. And now I believe

sensitivity is a superpower. And in fact, those of us who really

are on the path of growth and evolution, and here to shine as

bright as we can on this earth and help as many people as we

can, those of us who are doing that through business and

earning consistently more than we need, doing what we love. To

me, that's another birthright of ours: is the sensitivity, and to

be able to not only feel our sensitivity to increase it. So

that you have access to what we call your divine senses or your

clair senses, clair audience, clairvoyance, claircognizances

that not with your physical eyes, with your inner eyes, not

with your physical ears, with your inner ear, not with your

physical taste, but some people feel and taste things, you know,

when you you you get a taste for something. So people can receive

messages and guidance beyond what you can physically

experience, and this is part of what we're doing here: is

tapping into the energetics of our world. And let me tell you,

the energetic pathways are so much easier and more enjoyable

than the first you have to do this, and then you got to get

that certification, and that degree, and then that degree,

and that program, and that training. You don't need any of

that. You need to understand the energetics of how to be in

vibrational accord with what you actually want, not with the old

things that you keep recreating, including love relationships.

Yes, yeah, and and toss

that in there.

And your gifts. You know, it's funny you say love

relationships because as you were talking about that, I was I

was remembering. I said I've said this on the podcast a

couple of times talking about purpose that Jeff used to. I

remember you doing that relationship workshop with me

and Jeff, my partner that that now has Annalina's not only got

a Michelin star, but they are the 35th best restaurant in

North America. They just got voted on a huge list, a global

list, the 35th best restaurant in North America, they were

crushing it. You've been to Analina with me and Jeff and

Julian, but that day we did that relationship workshop, and you

you were kind of unpacking our stuff. I remember Jeff because

when I started my business, he used to be like, "You need to

work harder. You need. What are you doing? Like you're late.

You're lazy. You're slacking off. Like you're never going to

be successful. You're never gonna do like you need a

business plan. You need a business plan, and you were

like, okay. First of all, Kate's a projector, and her working for

like three hours is equivalent to you doing 14. So like you can

stop that story. And second of all, like um and but the

business plan. It was like he was so and I and it's I I look

in retrospect and I'm like, if I had a business plan, I would

have probably. I probably have a job now because none of this

would have worked out. Because literally nothing I do, not one

tiny facet of my business, did not come divinely and and was

guided. Like none of it came from me being like, oh, I should

do this thing. So if I had a plan, what? That's the old way.

I'm so happy to hear you! You're like you're

just singing my love language right now. And one of the things

I had to unlearn, and still it's still embedded in me, is that

hard work ethic.

Yes,

and following the plan. So a business plan. So

one of the so I was literally just writing about this

yesterday. I have one major shame in my business life that

is the biggest shame, and it's as I even think about it. I'm

going to say it in one second. It's like, why is that even a

shame? However, it totally is, and here's the shame: I made it

all up. I made my entire business up from nothing. I had

some guidance from some people of different types of structures

for how to do things, but I made the whole thing up. I didn't go

through a training to tell me how to create my business and

have a business plan. I didn't go to get an MBA. I actually, at

one point, I was already successful in my business, and I

I went to UCLA. I graduated from UCLA. I got a degree in

mathematics and neuroscience. It was mathematics with with the

medical and life sciences. So I studied math, neuroscience,

chemistry, physics, and biology at UCLA. And then I went on and

got a master's in math, and I got a teaching credential. And I

taught high school math for seven years in Los Angeles

Unified. And then I've been on a school board for the last 11

years, and I just resigned to focus fully on Beacons Global,

which is our platform, and that lack of training. I remember I

went back to UCLA to go to the Anderson School of Business, and

I was going to apply to get a formal MBA because I thought

that's what I needed to do. Even though I already had a

successful business from doing it my way, doing it the way that

just came to me, and through the guidance that I hired mentors

and coaches and guides, and from my unseen. World guides, and I

ended up talking with a friend of mine who went through the

Anderson School of Business, and I told him what I'm doing. He

shared what he's doing, and he was like, "You do not need to go

to this school. You're already doing what they're trying to

teach everybody. You're already dead

in their head. Like everyone's learning someone

else's theory. Someone else, and and and this is to me the old

paradigm. It's kind of like gotta get married, gotta have

kids. It's gotta look like this. This is the only option. It's

the same. You gotta go like PhDs, master's degrees. All

these things are so pedestaled, and yet it's somebody else's

theories that you're studying rather than what you and I have

done is we're in our own divine channel and we are channeling.

You didn't make it up. You're channeling the work that this

planet is needed. Like you know, all the greats from the

beginning of time. Everyone's channeled something. It's come

from somewhere, right? People don't make it up, and then we

glorify, or we've been trained to glorify studying other

people's series and you know reading this textbook and that

textbook, but that's actually I believe taking us away from our

divinity and from the magic that's meant to flow through us.

I I I agree. I'm going to say yes, and for

me,

yeah, yeah,

I I do agree that we overvalue logic and

reason and the materialistic view of the scientific world

that science and scientific evidence, quote evidence and

research, is the preferred method of validation in our

world. I would say before something became an actual

scientific research experiment, right? Before it got to say yes,

this university will take it on. This will be the principal

investigator. These are the people. This is the funding.

Before it got there, what was it? It was an idea in somebody's

mind, in somebody's field, saying, "I believe that this

thing should be studied. Right, and one of the reasons why now

there is a huge rise in menopause studies and studies of

women and women's pleasure, women's health, is because we're

demanding it now. And even though we were maybe demanding

it in the past, not enough women of I'm 55, okay, so not enough

women of my age were demanding it. Now it's like everybody

needs to know about the different phases of life as a

woman, you know. And I have some cool stuff to say about that

too. We can do that in another podcast. But I really truly

believe that both have value. So again, we come back to let both

of these have equal value. So channeling has a place, and also

looking back at the research, looking back at what was done

with a grain of sand and a grain of salt together. Just like

something might not be quite right. That's the grain of sand,

and the grain of salt is like okay, let's take it for what it

is. And there is value in researching it. I'm also a heavy

researcher. I really enjoy. I mean, I studied mathematics. You

know, like eight years of math, which is kind of crazy to even

think about. But I studied knot theory, like the study of tying

and untying knots mathematically, and how that

works in our DNA for all the different processes we have-it's

really fascinating. So I really do enjoy the research. I think

there's a lot of value there, and when we overvalue that, then

we undervalue, and that's what you're fighting back against.

It's like all of the stuff that's channeling. What if all

of it had equal value. What if it's just a choice? What if

somebody who really loves research loves to do that, wants

to continue to do that, and expands into other areas and

talks with people who are more in the channeling and more in

the ideation phase, and those two people now can talk and say,

"Ooh, now this is a different type of research, right? And in

fact, I know you've listened to the telepathy tapes, right?

I actually haven't, but I've I've heard I will, and

I've heard so many amazing things about them.

Okay, okay, okay. Well, it's already in your

field, so it is a must. I can tell you that when I listened to

season one of the telepathy tapes, I cried through most of

it because I felt so seen and so known and so loved. Because what

this woman does is she's interviewing people who work

with nonverbal people, people who are on the autism spectrum

that are nonverbal, and also they've expanded it into animals

and telepathy with animals, and the research that's been done.

This one gentleman who was a total skeptic did research on

dogs and their dog owners, and the dogs when the the dog owner

would leave for the day. The dog would go about their day and do

whatever at at home. They put up all these cameras, and then when

the when the dog owner was within, I think it was two miles

of the house, the dog would go to the front door and sit there.

And then when the they would do all these different types of

experiments, so it would be a different car. They'd come home

in a cab. They'd come home in something else. They would come

within the two-mile radius. The dog would go to the door. They

would go back out. The dog would go back and do their own thing.

And it was mind-blowing to this guy, and it completely changed

his ideas of telepathy. So telepathy is our birthright as

well. We can communicate without words, without seeing anybody,

without using our eyes or our physical ears. And when you know

that, and I had that growing up, I could read people's thoughts.

I'm psychic. I see things. I see people's auras. I see colors. I

see. I see dead people. That sounds crazy, like the sixth

sense, but actually it's true. I typically can see people when

they pass over, even if I'm not physically in the same location

as them. I can always feel when people are gossiping about me or

talking about me, whether it's positive, negative, or in

between, and and so all of these abilities make me very

sensitive, very very sensitive, and I've learned you know how to

how to navigate in this. So I say turn on your sensitivity

more and more and more, and practice turning on your

telepathy. Turn that on because that is how you can receive

more. Right now, you can literally, even if you're at

work right now, you can ask yourself: If I look around, if I

look around, who is happy and joyous? Who is sad? Who's

depressed? Who is just getting through the day? You can sense

people. You can see their facial expressions, their body

language, even if they're facing the other direction. You can

sense, and so start doing that. Increase your ability to sense

people, and you're a master at that, Kate. You're one of those

people. You always can sense people where they're at, and

you. This is one of the things I've witnessed you do over the

years. Is just naturally you go into harmony with someone, and

then you help go to that tender spot in them, and and you

provide this beautiful, loving, judgment-free place for them to

just be with that and allow that to rise up and be witnessed, and

it's just gorgeous. And so that is a sensitive superpower, and

we want to develop those as women more and more. That's

what's going to call in more money as well.

Yes. Okay. So we we need to wrap very soon, and but

this is going to be a multi part series. So so this will be the

end of the first one. But I just want to say, like, as I'm

hearing all of this, even the researching thing, and like and

knowing who you are and feeling who you are, and then feeling as

you were talking, I was like, oh, I'm a people researcher

because I've done 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of hours of

coaching and mentoring and teaching even before my own

business. That my saboteur archetypes were developed from

my own research, but I'm not a book researcher. I can't even

get through a personal development book. Like I even

recommend books that I've only read the first two chapters of.

So it it it because we're all unique. So that to me, that's

like what I'm receiving from this message is that when when

we and and I I I want to ask like for you to close with. I

just imagine all the women listening to this episode, that

want to, and we are going to go deeper next week. So there is

more to come. But all the women listening to this episode that

want that feeling of I have more than I need, I make more than I

need. What is it? I have more than I need. Make more

consistently earn more than I need doing the

work I love.

I consistently earn more than I need doing the work

I love. So, all the women listening that are not either

earning more than they need, or doing the work that they love,

or both, but they're feeling a deep soul resonance with that. I

imagine a lot of the women that listen that are in this

community have that desire and feel resonance with that. That

so the the first step you had shared is going through and the

acceptance practice, whatever you call it, you can of of

accepting all of the the things that have happened from zero to

now in their life. Where where do they go? So just as a final

closing of this iteration, because we're we're this series

is about like really guiding women to master money and to

master their relationship with money and to start to see, like,

and their how how they're bringing wealth into their lives

and all of that. So, so yeah, what would you say is the final

thing for them to focus on this week on claiming that?

I love that. Okay, so I would actually

recommend that everybody go to my website beaconsglobal.com.

That's beacon with an S, beacons, because we are all

beacons of light. beaconsglobal.com, and take our

free quiz. It's on that homepage. You'll see three

choices on the screen. You'll choose one of the choices.

There's eight questions. I, as the human Marla, created the

entire quiz. I did not use AI for any of it, and we had it

programmed from our business and web developer, who is one of the

co-founders of the company that Julian is a co-founder of. This

guy's an incredible guy, and so it's a beautiful quiz, very very

intentional, and it will give you one outcome. It's going to

either be in money, love, or time, and those options-the way

you answer the questions-just take five minutes to be

intentional about taking the quiz. You're going to get two

things, and they're both free. One, you're going to get a

write-up of your answers of like, why do you have this as

your number one first growth edge? Okay, all of it is going

to be even if you get time or love. All of it is going to be

moving towards consistently earning more than you need doing

the work you love. It's really just what's your first growth

edge, your first challenge or block on that journey. Okay,

you're also going to get an audio activation. We call it,

and it's an eyes open. It's meant to be you're stretching,

you're doing chores, you're going for a walk. It's not a sit

down, closed eyes meditation. It's an active be in your life

and listen to this this audio activation, and that is the

first step I really, really would recommend for everyone.

And then you'll be in my field as well, and so and then we we

send some free goodies into your library, and all of that is

going to help you really turn on your sensitivity, your senses,

honor the sensitivity you already have, and start to grow

it. And then eventually, you'll see how this is going to lead

more and more into money. So I'd say between now and our next

episode, that's a great first step. And then, in addition to

that, of course, practice the claim: I am at complete peace

with my entire timeline from conception through this present

moment. And then notice what arises that that's in that

duality that says nah ah, and just capture as many of those

things as you can, so maybe for three days, all you do is you

say that claim and capture, capture, capture, and then go to

one of those timelines, one of those experiences where you were

not a complete piece, and be with yourself, like I talked

about earlier in the episode, and love that past version of

yourself and be with you, and remind yourself you won't

remember what I said. You'll just remember everything is okay

and everything is going to be okay.

Beautiful, I love it, and it feels like yeah. So

this episode's like phase one in healing and transforming your

relationship with really being the beacon in the world and

living from your gifts and being abundantly rewarded for it and

changing and healing your your relationship story with money

and with relationships and with everything it's going to be not

separate from like you said time money and love but thank you so

much love this is so beautiful I'm so excited for the next

conversation as we keep deepening into this super

important topic that has not been touched on the new truth.

And you are incredible, and I love just how concrete and clear

and brilliant and wise and honest you are about all of it.

Like relatable, you're just such a badass and so inspiring, and

I'm so happy to have you here.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much. And

I'll just say for everyone, truly, your unique gifts are

needed in the world now more than ever. More than ever, it's

it's urgent for us women to be shining our lights more and more

and more, and be around other women who are confident in

shining their light more and more and more. So may that be in

your world, in your community, and may you use this episode of

this podcast as a way to shine brighter.

Yes, I love that so much more than ever before. We

need we need you and share it with all the women in your life,

men in your life, anyone who needs to hear this episode, love

you so much, and we'll see you next week.