What’s really impacting the health of our children? 🌱👶 In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Perro shares her perspective on the potential role of GMOs, glyphosate, environmental toxins, nutrition, and the gut microbiome in childhood health. She also explores homeopathy and why she believes empowering parents to ask questions, trust their observations, and advocate for their children is essential. 💛✨
đź’› Through nutrition, homeopathy, careful observation, and her book Making Our Children Well, she encourages parents to ask questions, become informed advocates, and consider each child's individual needs rather than relying solely on a one-size-fits-all approach.
Her message: Don’t wait for a wake-up call—become an active participant in your family’s health. 🌎
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Episode Summary:
Key Takeaways
- GMOs & Glyphosate Drive Chronic Illness: The 1996 introduction of GMOs and glyphosate correlates with a surge in childhood gut issues and autism. Glyphosate, an antibiotic and chelator, damages the gut microbiome and transports toxins like aluminum across the blood-brain barrier.
- Infant Formula & Vaccines Are Toxic: Infant formula is a baby's first ultra-processed food, containing undeclared mercury from high-fructose corn syrup. The vaccine schedule has exploded from 5 doses in 1962 to 75 today, overwhelming immature immune systems with toxic adjuvants like aluminum.
- Empowerment Is the Solution: Dr. Perro's book, Making Our Children Well, provides a practical guide for parents to use nutrition and homeopathy, shifting from a pharma-centric model to one of self-empowerment and intuitive observation.
- Corporate & Regulatory Obstruction: Dr. Perro faced significant resistance, including vetoed legislation for clean infant formula, censorship from YouTube and publishers, and an $800k campaign by Abbott (Similac) to block GMO labeling.
Topics
The Problem: Environmental Toxins & Rising Illness
- Dr. Perro's Path to Integrative Medicine:
- A pediatric ER doctor for 45 years, Dr. Perro was driven to holistic care by her son's health issues and the dramatic 5-minute efficacy of a homeopathic remedy.
- Her research into GMOs and pesticides began after successfully fighting a toxic pesticide spray in California.
- She observed a direct correlation between the 1996 introduction of GMOs and a sharp rise in chronic gut issues and autism in her practice.
- The Toxic Food System:
- GMOs are engineered for herbicide resistance, not nutrition. They are at least 20% less nutrient-dense.
- Glyphosate (Roundup) is an antibiotic that damages the gut microbiome.
- It is a chelator, binding essential minerals (calcium, magnesium) and transporting toxic metals (aluminum) across the blood-brain barrier.
- The gut microbiome, which coordinates all major organ systems, is severely disrupted by these toxins.
- Toxins in Early Life:
- Infant Formula: A study of 40 formulas found undeclared mercury from high-fructose corn syrup.
- Abbott (Similac) spent $800k to block GMO labeling in California.
- Legislation for clean formula has been repeatedly vetoed.
- Vaccines: The schedule has increased from 5 doses in 1962 to 75 today.
- This overwhelms immature immune systems with toxic adjuvants (aluminum, formaldehyde).
- Precision Pediatrics: Dr. Perro argues immunomodulation should not be used on a child without first evaluating their unique terrain (microbiome, genetics, toxic load).
The Solution: Empowerment Through Nutrition & Homeopathy
- Empowering Parents: Dr. Perro's book, Making Our Children Well, is a practical guide for parents to take control of their family's health.
- Nutrition Section: Covers pantry setup, food elimination, and microbiome health.
- Homeopathy Section: Provides remedies for common issues (croup, sprains) from prenatal care to adolescence.
- Resources: Includes vetted brands and organizations.
- Format: Designed as a paperback with note sections for tracking individual responses.
- The "Flicka" Story:
- Dr. Perro used homeopathy to save her sick chicken, Flicka, from near death.
- Remedies Used:
- Arsenicum Album for weakness and warmth-seeking.
- Carbo Vegetabilis for a crash with blue comb.
- Arnica Montana for a concussion.
- This demonstrates the power of observation and individualized treatment.
- "Don't Wait for Your Wake Up Call" → Self-Empowerment:
- Parents are the best judges of their children's health.
- Develop intuitive observation skills to guide treatment, as a 15-minute pediatrician visit is insufficient.
About the Guest:
Michelle Perro, MD, DHom is a seasoned clinician with nearly 45 years of experience in pediatrics and integrative medicine, dedicated to treating children and families. A Yale graduate, she trained at Mount Sinai Medical School, Bellevue Hospital and NYU, later serving as Director of a Pediatric Emergency Department in NYC and spending over a decade at UCSF Benioff Oakland Children’s Hospital.
For the past 25 years, Dr. Perro has championed integrative approaches to health, focusing on the impact of GM foods and pesticides on children’s well-being.
She has lectured globally, and co-authored the acclaimed book What’s Making Our Children Sick?
Dr. Perro is CEO and co-founder of www.gmoscience.org, promoting food as medicine and regenerative health education. She also hosts the podcast, The New MDS and offers parenting resources through her website. Her newest book, Making Our Children Well was released April, 2026.
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Melissa is an Integrative Health Practitioner and a Board Designated Master Trainer of Hypnotherapy, Trainer of NLP, Time Line Therapy®, and NLP Results Coaching, helping people get to the root cause of their health issues and then get lasting results. Melissa neither diagnoses nor cures but helps bring your body back into balance by helping discover your “toxic load” and then removing the toxins. Melissa offers functional medicine lab testing that helps you “see inside” to know exactly what is going on, and then provides a personalized wellness protocol using natural herbs and supplements. Melissa’s business is 100% virtual – the lab tests are mailed directly to your home and she specializes in holding your hand and guiding the way to healing so that you don’t have to figure it all out on your own.
Melissa has launched Amplify Impact Academy, with business partner, Billie Aadmi and together they train other coaches, practitioners and counsellors in the 4 mind-body healing modalities mentioned above, giving them powerful tools to use with clients to get results with greater ease, speed and grace. These courses teach life skills and anyone can take them, if you want to be a better leader, parent, partner, be empowered in your own life, these courses are for you!
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[00:03:19] Welcome Back To Another Episode Of The Don't Wait For Your Wake Up Call Podcast. I Am Melissa Deally And Very Excited To Have Here With Me Today, Dr. Michelle Perreault. Welcome To The Show. Melissa, Thank You For Having Me. I Heard You On Another Podcast And Loved What You Were Sharing And Thought You Would Be A Fabulous Guest For My Audience. And So I Reached Out And Invited You To Be On The Show. Thank You So Much For Saying Yes.
[00:03:45] And I Would Love To Just Give A Brief Introduction To Your Incredible Work To The Audience And Then Let You Share Your Story. So, Dr. Michelle Perreault Is A MD As Well As A Doctor Of Homeopathy And Is A Seasoned Clinician With Nearly 45 Years Of Experience In Pediatrics And Integrative Medicine Dedicated To Treating Children And Families.
[00:04:07] A Yale Graduate, She Trained At Mount Sinai Medical School, Bellevue Hospital And NYU, Later Serving As Director Of A Pediatric Emergency Department In NYC, And Spending Over A Decade At UCSF Benioff Oakland Children's Hospital. For The Past 25 Years, Dr. Perreault Has Championed Integrative Approaches To Health Focusing On The Impact Of Genetically Modified Foods And Pesticides On Children's Well-Being.
[00:04:35] And That's What Really Intrigued Me To Have You Come On The Show. You've Got All Of That Wonderful Medical School Training And I Remember You Saying Over The Course Of Time Children Coming To You Were Showing Up Sicker And Sicker. And That's What Started You Going Down The Path Of All Of This Additional Research.
[00:04:54] So I Would Love For You To Share In Your Own Words That Story And What's Led You To This Place Today Where You Have This Blend Of That Traditional Medical Background And Looking Into All Of These Other Holistic Healing Modalities As Well.
[00:05:09] Certainly Thank You For The Kind Introduction And As For Many Of Us In The Integrative Health Space It Began With Our Own Kids And My Own Son And He Never Minds Me Sharing The Story But He Had Some Health Challenges When He Was A Little Guy And I Had A Serendipitous Encounter With An MD Homeopath Literally Just Cross Paths. I Never Even Heard Of The Word Homeopathy I Had A
[00:05:31] I Never Even Heard Of The Word Homeopathy 33 Years Ago When My Son Was Born And A Baby And A Long Story Short This Wonderful Doctor Who Still Practices Gave Me A Remedy For My Son And It Worked Within Five Minutes. And Melissa I'm A Pediatric Emergency Physician And I Saw Every Type Of Childhood Illness And I Knew Short Of Giving Kids Some Serious Drugs Nothing Worked In Five Minutes. And So My Son Gets The Issue Again I Give Him The Homeopathic Remedy Again It Costs
[00:05:57] Four Or Five Dollars At The Time Little Sugar Pill My Son Sucked Them Down Lo And Behold Better. So You Would Think That I Would Be Overjoyed With This Information But However My Reaction Was More Interesting Because I Was Fuming Angry Pissed Off That I Could Have Trained So Hard So Long I Never Even Heard Something So Miraculous. So I Went Back To School At Night My Kids Were Little I Was A Soccer Mom PTA Chair Running A Practice.
[00:06:27] I Had An Integrative Urgent Care Look In My Little Town Doing Homeopathy And Mainstream Western Medicine Doing The Whole Thing And Became A Homeopath. I Then Pivoted Around 2000 To My Own Little Practice And Become I Became Very Involved Through One Of The Parents And In The Practice. They Just Needed A Pediatrician To Stop The Spray Against The Light Brown Apple Moth That Was To
[00:06:53] Occurred Along The Entire Coast Of California And I Thought Oh My God I Cannot Do This. I Cannot Take On One More Thing. I'm A Busy Mom. I'm Losing My Mind. My Husband Worked Full Time. So Did I. And I Had Two Small Kids And I Did It As Being The Gal Who Always Says Yes. Because No It's Like Doing Improvisation. You Never Say No. The Yes Is An Opportunity.
[00:07:17] And Even If I'm A Little Sleep Deprived Or I Need A Little More Coffee In The Morning. I Am A Coffee Achiever. Full Disclosure. Organic Coffee Only. I Learned About GMOs And Pesticides Through These Moms. We Stopped The Spray. Only One County Was Affected. Those People Got Sick From The Spray. It Was Monterey County. And The Light Brown Apple Moth Against Our Apple Crop Never Materialized. So Through Those Moms I Learned About GMOs And Pesticides.
[00:07:46] It Was Another Serendipitous Coincidental Moment With My Own Little Office Here In Town. I Started Seeing An Uptick In Chronic Gut Disorders And Kids With Autism. Autistic Spectrum Disorder. Now I Was Doing Urgent Care Because I'm A PEDSER Doc. But These Moms Come To Me And Say Oh Yeah He Was Fine. No He's Not. You Know Something Happened To Him. We Can Talk About What Those Things That May Have Happened.
[00:08:11] And All These Kids Had Gut Issues. And I Well Gut Issues Are Not Uncommon In Pediatrics. But I Thought What The Heck? What Am I Seeing That All These Kids Are Now Gluten And Dairy Intolerant? Something Has Shifting. And It Was Also The Introduction Of GMOs And Pesticides In 1996. We Are Major Achievers Of This Phenomenon. In Canada So Are You.
[00:08:34] We Love Our GMO Crops And Lo And Behold There Was Like I Would Say Almost Perfect Correlation Of All The Diseases Outlined By Dr. Stephanie Seneff Judy Hoy And Nancy Swanson In 2012 That Showed A Correlation Between Autism And Glyphosate As Well As GMOs Alzheimer's Type 2 Diabetes Mental Health Challenges They Were Like Perfectly Perfectly Correlated. So Then There Was The Correlation Causation Screaming Going On.
[00:09:03] You Are Not Showing Causation It Was Like A Perfect Correlation. And Then I Began To Pivot And Embracing Environmental Health In My Practice. And The More I Understood About GMOs And Pesticides And Now Other Environmental Toxicants On The Effect On Our Children, I Could Not Close My Eyes And Pretend To Be Asleep To This Toxic Assault, Toxic Overload, Toxic Burden On Our Children.
[00:09:30] And I Pivoted, Wrote Some Books, I Run A Website, And Began This Education Journey Along With A Political Bent. I Am Not The Political Gal. I Don't Love Being In Sacramento, California. That's Where Our Political Seat Is Or In D.C. For That Matter. I've Done Both. I Don't Like It, But I've Done It. And So This Is Where I Am Now. I Know That's A Long Answer To Your Question, But That's How It Started.
[00:09:56] Well, I Love That Answer Because Literally You Were Being Guided Into This Work With People Bringing Things To You And You Being A Curious Mind And Also A Big Heart And Wanting To Support And Help And Learn. And So That's Where You Are Today. And Your Website That You've Created In Regards To All Of This GMO Science Is Literally GMOscience.org, Correct? If People Want To Go Check Out All Of Your Research, All Of Your Findings.
[00:10:26] And You Know, Genetically Modified, Mother Nature Literally Gives Us Everything We Need In Terms Of The Nutrients For Ourselves To Thrive. And It Is Us, Humanity, That Is Causing The Problems. Potentially Initially Starting With The Idea Of We Need To Feed More Of The Planet So If We Grow This Ourselves In Labs, Etc. That May Be The Initial Mindset.
[00:10:53] However, Rapidly They Realize, Oh, We Can Grow This More Cheaply. And We Think It's The Same Because It Looks The Same Under The Microscope. But In My Understanding Of All Of This, And You Can Correct Me If I'm Wrong, That Again, Mother Nature Just Has Such Incredible Innate Ability To Get All Of These Nutrients In That Even If It Looks The Same Under The Microscope, It Is Not The Same When It's Processed By Our Body. Melissa, You're Spot On.
[00:11:22] You're 100% Correct. So These Genetically Modified Foods, Which We've All Been Eating For 30 Years Now, They Are Called Gross, Generally Recognized As Safe. Their Nutrient Density, How They're Created In A Lab, The Whole Genetic Modification Process Is Not Sexual Hybridization Done By Mendelian Genetics With The Peas And The Monks That A Lot Of People Remember From High School.
[00:11:51] And That We've Created Various New Fruits, For Example, Via Crossing Different Species. That's A Sexual Hybridization. The Genetic Modification Process Is Forced. The Plant Cells Don't Even Want To Uptake These New Modified Genes From Microbes That Create Resistance To Various Herbicides Like Glyphosate, Which Is The Main Ingredient In Roundup. That's The Only Reason Why They've Designed. They Don't Feed The Planet. They Don't Use Less Water. They're Not More Nutrient Dense.
[00:12:21] They're At Least 20% Less Nutrient Dense. And It Was Just So That You Can Spray The Weeds And The Crop Doesn't Die. So We've All Been Sprayed With This Synthetic Amino Acid, Which Are The Building Blocks Of Protein For 30 Years. Glyphosate's Been Around Since 1950 Actually. And It Is An Antibiotic, Which Is Driving The Major Issues That We're Seeing In The Kids' Guts And Our Own, Our Dogs, Our Cats, Everybody.
[00:12:49] As Well As Binding The Essential Minerals That We Need. So Glyphosate Is A Wonderful Chelator. It Was Used As A Pipe Cleaner To Descale Pipes. So It Binds Up All These Minerals, Essential And Toxic, Which Is Important Also. So Yes, It Binds Up Calcium, Copper, Manganese, Magnesium, Vanadium, Selenium, Lithium, Etc. It Also Binds Aluminum And Fluoride. And That's What I've Been Writing About Later.
[00:13:18] And Glyphosate Is An Excellent Transport Amino Acid. It's Very Simple, But It's So It Can Even Bind Aluminum, For Example. It's Being Dumped Everywhere. It's In Everything. And Aluminum Can Transport Aluminum. Glyphosate Can Transport Aluminum Six Different Ways Across The Blood Brain Barrier. And We've Known That Since 1993. That Is Not New. That Is Old Data.
[00:13:44] And Once Those Metals, Those Toxic Metals Cross Your Blood Brain Barrier, It's Really Hard To Get Them Out. So This Is The Shift We've Seen. I Kind Of Got Off Track Here With Your Question. But You're Absolutely Correct. The GMO Process Creates New Microbes Because The Genetically Modified Microbes Swap Genetic Information Called Plasmids With Your Own Microbes Creating New Species That We've Never Seen Before.
[00:14:10] These Microbes Produced Substances And We Don't Know What They Are. The Typical Microbes In Our Gut Produce Beautiful Things Like Vitamins, Neurotransmitters, Short Chain Fatty Acids, All The Things That We Need For Our Biology. But These New Microbes That Are Unidentified Produce These Compounds, Metabolites If You Would, Or I Call The Metabolic Response Modifiers. It Doesn't Matter.
[00:14:35] They're Just New Compounds That Can Alter Our Biology Because Those Microbes Run Literally Our Brain Chemistry, Our Immunology, Just Every Part Of Our Being, Our Neuro, Psycho, Neuro, Endo, Immunologic Systems And Everything Is Linked. So These Are My Concerns. Logitudinal Data Doesn't Exist And We're Eating This Stuff I Think Based On Three Human Studies, Very Little Data.
[00:15:04] It's A Travesty. It Absolutely Is And I Love All That You've Shared There And Just For The Audience To Really Understand The Impact Of All Of This And Just To Touch On A Few Of The Things That You've Said. Seventy Percent Of Our Immune System Is Housed In Our Gut And Our Immune System Is Designed To Keep Us Healthy And Find What's Coming In And Fight Against It And It Strengthens Its Effectiveness As We Are Exposed To More Things.
[00:15:33] So As A Very Simple Example, Our Immune System Getting, You Know, Microbes From Dirt And Mother Nature's Healthy Dirt As Young Little Ones, That Helps Build Our Immune System's Knowledge Of Good And Bad And Develop It, Etc. And When We Start Working With The Antibiotic Hand Soaps, Antibacterial Hand Soaps, That Is Actually Damaging Our Immune System.
[00:16:02] You Mentioned Glyphosate, Which We Know Has Antibacterial Compounds In It, Which Is Now Damaging Our Immune System. And All Of This Is Weakening The Immune System, Which Is Then Weakening Our Gut. Our Gut Is Connected Through The Vagus Nerve To Our Brain. You Mentioned It's Getting Through Our Brain Barrier. So All Of This Is Literally Behind What You Were Talking About Initially, The Alzheimer's That Is Happening,
[00:16:31] Aluminum Getting Through The Blood Brain Barrier, The Chronic Illness In Our Children. Because Our Guts Are Weakened And Impacted By All Of This Toxicity From Such A Young Age, Before Our Immune System Even Has A Chance To Develop Any Kind Of Strength Against It. And Even When It Is, The Numbers Are So High Now Because It's In Everything. Melissa, This Is The Truth. And If You Know, I Don't Talk To The Whys Behind It.
[00:16:59] You Know, We Can Talk About Profit Or More Negative Or Darker, You Know, Ulterior Motives. Certainly I Talk About You Know, How To Get Off Of It. Yes. Because If It Is So Overwhelming To Try And Raise A Healthy Family Or A Healthy You, Knowing That Our Food Is Literally Poisoned. It's Like, Well, What The... You Just Want To Throw Your Hands In And Say, What The Heck? What Does It Matter? I'll Just Eat Whatever I Want Because It Won't Matter In The End.
[00:17:27] And That's Not True Because The Body Has An Innate And A Beautiful Inherent Capacity To Heal Itself. And So When You Give It The Right Tools, The Right Nutrients, The Right Polyphenols And Flavonols, All Those Beautiful Things In The Mother Nature That You've Described, Free Of Poisons Or At Least Diminished Poisons, It Can Begin To Right Itself. Yes. But It Needs The Tools. Every Person There Who Knows How To Fix Something In The Kitchen Or Their Car Knows If You Don't Have The Right Tools,
[00:17:56] You Can't Fix It. Yeah. It's Often About What You've Got In Your Toolbox. And So Yes, Many Families Now, Many People Need Different Things. We Need Herbs, Homeopathic Supplements, Nutraceuticals, Hands-On Medicine, You Name It. But It All Begins In The Kitchen. It's What Hippocrates Said, Right? Like All Roads Lead To The Gut. Well, I Don't Think He Said That. But He Said, Food Be Thy Medicine, Medicine Be Thy Medicine. I'm Not Even Sure He Said That. But He Did Speak About The Gut.
[00:18:25] And The Gut Is Just Not Like A Tube Of Passing Food Through. The Gut Is The Organ That Coordinates And Talks To Every Other Organ In Your Body. So There's A Gut-Brain Axis. It's Really The Gut-Brain Microbiome. But The Microbiome Is Part Of The Gut. I Consider It Almost A Separate Organ. It's So Complex. There Is A Lung Microbiome Axis. There Is A Skin Microbiome Axis. There Is A Heart Microbiome Axis.
[00:18:54] There Is A Fetal Microbiome. There Is A Brain Microbiome. There Is A Placenta Microbiome. And I'm Just Recently Learning About Tumors Have A Microbiome. Which Is Sort Of Out There. So When We Alter The Terrain, We Create New Situations. So The Most Important Thing, There's Two Main Concepts I Talk About Now, Is Cleaning Up The Terrain So The Body Can Do What It's Designed To Do And Limited And Decreasing The Toxic Load.
[00:19:22] I Doubt We Can Get Rid Of It Completely In This Present Environment. But Boy, You Can Sure Reduce It With Simple Things At Home, At Your Child's School, At Your Workplace. If You're In An Office, There Is An Opportunity For You To Be The Impetus To Change. I Used To Say, Just Start With Yourself. And Now I Say, Oh No Folks, Everyone Turn Off Netflix, Get Off The Couch. We All Can Do A Little Something. Even If You're In That Office And Getting Ready Of Cake Cups.
[00:19:50] Who Thought Of That Little Plastic Receptacles For Coffee? I Went To A Friend's Office And They Just Had These Cake Cups In Plastic. These On At Least Little Coffee Makers. I'm Like, Dump It. You Know, Get Rid Of The Extra Plastic. Simple Changes That We Can Make. But It Doesn't Have To Be Huge. You Don't Have To Win The Noble Prize For Environmental, You Know, Safety. And So Change Begins With You. No One Is Doing This For Us.
[00:20:18] So We Have To Become Off The Convenience Wheel, Because There's A Cost Of Convenience. Everybody Wants The Drive-Thru Pill. There Is No Quick Fix For This. It'S More Of A Slow Slog, But It'S Doable. But The Beauty Is Within Just Four Weeks Of Making Simple Changes, Most People Report. It Takes About Four Weeks In My Opinion, Although I've Seen Some People Get Better In Three Days. But Give It A Few Weeks, The Changes Start To Happen. The Microbiome Can Change In Two Days.
[00:20:47] I've Seen People Go From A Meat-Based Diet To A Plant-Based Diet And Their Microbiome Shifts. Or Vice Versa. If You're Plant-Based And Start Eating Meat, Your Microbiome Will Shift. So The Microbiome Flexes With Your Environment. And Of Course, We Address The Mind, Body, Spirit. We Address It All, Melissa. Well, I Love That And I Fully Concur. My Daughter, I Found Out When Grade One, When She Was Struggling To Pay Attention At School
[00:21:16] In The Afternoon Would Put Her Head On The Desk And Have A Tummy Egg Every Day. I Ended Up Doing Some Food Sensitivity Testing With Her And Found Out, Lo And Behold, She Had A Sensitivity To Dairy And Gluten. Which I'd Been Feeding Her Unknowingly, You Know, Every Day For All Of Her Life Since She Stopped Breastfeeding And Literally Stopped Those Foods Going Into Her Little System And Within Three Days She Was Back To Running Around And Wanting To Do The Things That She Loved And Go Out To
[00:21:46] Friends' Houses After School And Play Soccer. And You Know, When I Took Her To The Doctor To Ask, You Know, What's Wrong? I Was Told All Little Girls Get Tummy Aches. And I Wasn't Willing To Just, You Know, Wait Till She Grew Out Of It As They Said She Would. And Guess What? She Didn't Grow Out Of It Until She Was About Twelve. So I Would Have Had To Wait Six Years Of Watching Her Be In Pain. And To This Day Her Body Doesn't Love Gluten. Now She Is Aware Of What She Can Tolerate And Not Tolerate And Make Choices For Herself.
[00:22:14] She's An Adult As To What She Is Ingesting Because Of Going Through That Experience. I Also Run People Through Three Week Detox Programs. And That First Week They're Starting To Feel Better. Because Guess What? We're Creating The Environment For The Body To Be Able To Heal As You've Talked About. And The Body Is Designed To Do That. And What I Love About What You Do Is So Many People Know That They're Not Feeling As Good As They Could Feel. They're Tired. They Have Gut Issues. They Feel Bloated.
[00:22:44] Their Bowel Movements Aren't Normal, Etc. Etc. And They're Not Getting The Information They Need In Order To Be Able To Heal It. They're Being Given A Pill Or They're Being Given Something To Manage The Symptoms Versus Heal.
[00:22:58] What You've Done Is You've Written A Beautiful Book That Guides People Through How To Adjust Their Diet And Their Lifestyle And To Understand How The Changes They Make Can Help Them Actually Come To This Place Of Healing. And So I Love That You've Done That And I Want To Spend Time Talking About This Wonderful Book Because It's A Bible That Should Be In Every House And I Know There's Room For People To Be Taking Notes, Etc.
[00:23:27] Before We Go There, As Sad As It Is, I Want To Just Talk About A Couple Of Things To Really Drive This Home For Parents, How Important It Is For Them To Get Your Book And Start To Learn This For Themselves. And That's Two Topics. One Of Them Is I Know You've Done Research Into Toxins In Baby Formula And I Would Love For You To Talk About That. Yep.
[00:23:48] And The Other One Is I'm Not Sure If You're Aware Of This, The Documentary Called 10 Americans, Which Was Some Research Done On The Umbilical Chords Of Newborn Babies And The Toxins That Are Found In The Umbilical Chords. And They Literally Did The Study On 10 Babies And They Literally Did The Study On 10 Babies And They For 400 Toxins Only.
[00:24:13] And Given That We Have You Know Over 80,000 Toxins That Have Been Introduced Since World War II, 400 Is A Very Small Number. And Those Little Newborn Babies Were Being Born With Over 200 Toxins In Their Umbilical Chord Because It Does Flow Through The Placenta From Mom To Baby In Utero. And Then We Start Giving Them Baby Formula Which Has Toxins In It As Well. So I Would Love For You Just To Share What You Know About That.
[00:24:43] Just For Moms To Be Aware, Right? Because We Have This Beautiful Newborn Baby And We Want To Do Our Very Best For Our Newborn Baby. And So This Is Education For People And Then We Can Talk About Your Book As A Resource For Parents To Use. Instead Of Getting Upset About The Reality, We Can't Change The Reality As It Is. Is How We Can Make Better Choices For Ourselves. And That'S From Education And Your Book Is Such A Great Tool For That. Certainly.
[00:25:11] So GMO Science In Collaboration With Moms Across America And Dr. Stephanie Seneff, An MIT Brilliant Scientist Who Is One Of My Friends And Colleagues. We Decided To Look At 40 Infant Formulas. This Was Two Years Ago. And The Reason Why I Was Inspired To Do This Study And So I Got It Going Was Because My Same Colleague From Moms Across America Did A School Lunch Study. And She Published In 2022 43 American School Lunches. And Of Those Lunches, 100% Of Them Had Toxic Metals In Them.
[00:25:41] Almost 94% Had Glyphosate Based Herbicides. Nutrient Density Was Abysmal. And Not Only That But There Were Pharmaceuticals Like Bird Contraceptives And Other Pharmaceuticals In The School Lunches. So 30 Million Meals Are Served In America Every Single Day. Some Children Are Eating Two And Three Meals A Day. I Was So Incensed By This. I Also Learned And Knew About From A Book Called Unsafe At Any Meal By Dr. René Joy Dufault, An FDA For A U.S.
[00:26:10] Whistleblower, That High Fructose Corn Syrup, Which Is The Main Ingredient In Most Infant Formulas, By The Way, Infant Formulas Baby's First Ultra Processed Food. And It'S Full Of Advanced Glycation End Products, Toxicants, And Other Things. But What Dr. Dufault Found Was That They Were Not Declaring The Mercury In High Fructose Corn Syrup, Mercury Alkali.
[00:26:35] And I Said, Mercury Is As Potent If Not More Potent Neurotoxin Than Lead. And There'S No Safe Level Of Lead In Children. I Said, Could There Be Mercury In Infant Formula? That'S Why I Started This Study. So We Looked At 40 Infant Formulas, Two Of Each, Organic, Conventional, U.S. And Abroad. We Had Some From The UK, Australia, New Zealand, Hole From Holland. And We Found All Of Them Contained Toxic Metals.
[00:27:02] And All Formulas Contained Lead And Aluminum. All Of Them. We Looked For Cadmium, We Looked For Lead, We Looked For Mercury, We Looked For Aluminum And Arsenic. And 57% Of Them Contained All Five. And This Was A Travesty. So We Went To The U.S. We Went To D.C. We Met With The FDA. I Brought This Study With Them. We All Went.
[00:27:26] And So It Turns Out That The FDA, The Food and Drug Administration Here In The U.S. Does Something Called The Total Diet Study Since 1961 Or 63. And Every Few Years They Publish A Study On U.S. Foods And Looking For Radioactive Materials. But They Also Look For Other Metals. And So Their Last Study Was In 2022, A Year Before That We Published Or Two Years Before We Publish Our Data.
[00:27:54] And Of 900 and Ted Foods, They Looked At Four Infant Formulas. Of The Four Infant Formulas, They Had Toxic Metals Including Uranium. When I Brought This To Their Attention, They Were Flummoxed. Not A Word. Not A Peep Out Of The FDA. They Didn't Say Anything Nor Did They Bring It To Anyone's Attention. They Allowed American Babies To Drink Contaminated, Radioactive, Genotoxic, Cancer Producing. It Kills, It Reorganizes Your DNA Folks.
[00:28:24] There'S Nothing Safe About Radioactive Exposures. Okay. There'S Nothing Safe About It. Not Even A Little. Not A Little. And Thought It Was Okay For Our Babies To Be Drinking That. And Henceforth, Cancers Develop. Cancers Can Be Slow Growing 10, 20, 30 Years Later. And Then Henceforth, There'S Exposional Cancers. Oh, We Don'T Know Why. Later On, I Went Back To Find The Study. The Study Was Buried. It Was Gone. I Couldn'T Pull Up The Data. It'S There Somewhere. They Made It Impossible To Find The Data.
[00:28:53] And I've Reported That Out To A Nuclear Safety Group Just A Couple Weeks Ago. So, We Found This Information. We Reported It Out. And Literally, Nothing. They Bury It. Parents, Some Parents Want To Know Which Formula They Should Drink. And I Said, Honestly? I Said, Breast Is Best. I Said, You Need To Breast Feed Your Baby. And There Are Some Issues. Parents Have To Go Back To Work. Some Can't. Some Are Adopted. I Understand. If I Had To Feed A Baby Now, I'D Make My Own Formula.
[00:29:23] Michelle. Me. Dr. Michelle Perreault. That'S What I Would Do. And I Understand That'S Difficult. But There Were Some Formulas That Were Better Than Others. And I'm Not. I Have No Stock In Any Infant Formula. Now, We'Ve Been Trying Here In The Great State Of California. We'Re A Very Populated State. I Think We Have 43 Million People. To Get Clean Infant Formula Legislation. And Have Formula Companies Check For Toxic Metals In Their Baby Formula. And We'Ve Been Vetoed Every Time. We Cannot Get That Bill Passed. Just Vetoed Again Recently. I Wrote The Bill.
[00:29:52] And We Got It Vetoed. Okay. So They Don'T Want You To Know What'S In Your Formula. When GMO Science, My 501c3, When We Started, We Started Specifically To Fight For Labeling Of GMOs. In 2014. That Was A Big Proposition Here In California. We'Re The First State To Look At It. We Wanted You To Be Able To Have Informed Consent. So You Can Choose Whether You Wanted To Eat One Or Not.
[00:30:17] Lo And Behold, Abbott, That Makes A Formula Called Similac, A Very Popular Infant Formula, Gave Almost $800,000 To That Campaign To Stop Labeling. They Did Not Want Parents To Know That Their Milk Products, Their Infant Formulas, That A Significant Number Of Them Contain Genetically Modified Dairy Is Basically Soy. The Soy Is All GMO. And They Are Associated Pesticides Because You Don'T Eat A GMO Without Its Associated Pesticide.
[00:30:47] So This Is A Travesty Against All Babies. It'S Not Just American Babies, It'S Canadian Babies, You Know It'S Australian Babies, It'S African Babies, Nestle Is Pushing Infant Formula In So Many African Countries. So And There Are Only Four Main Infant Formula Producers, It'S A Monopoly. So They Have A Tight Stranglehold On This Billion Dollar Business Called Infant Formula. So I Mean As A Pediatrician If I Don'T Talk About Milk What The Heck Am I Doing Right? How To Feed An Infant.
[00:31:16] It'S All About The Milk. So This Was One Area. The Year Following, We Went On To Study Girl Scout Cookies Because We're All About Empowering Young Women. And With All Of Us, There Were Five Of Us Involved In This Study, All Women. We Were All Girl Scouts At One Point. So We Loved The Girl Scouts. I'M A Girl Guide Leader Here In Canada. And You're A Girl Guide Leader. I Love Promoting, You Know, It Kind Of An Entrepreneurial Spirit Among Young Women. This Is A Fabulous Thing.
[00:31:44] Well, The CEOs Didn'T Think It Was So Fabulous When We Studied Their Cookies. And We Studied 23 Girl Scout Cookies. And All Of Them Contain Toxic Metals And Glyphosate And It'S Toxic Biprodole Called Ampa. So It Was A Toxic Hit. And We Got So Much Grief Of That. A Lot Of Publicity. A Lot Of Grief As If We Were Trying To Take Down The Girl Scouts. I Said, How Are We Framing This? We're Revealing That These Beloved Cookies Which Support Girl Scout Organizations Are Toxic.
[00:32:12] And We Reached Out To The Girl Scouts. And Prior To Publishing The Study, We Said, Hey, Can We Work Together To Create An Organic Cookie? And We Even Made A Little Badge, Organic Badge. But They Were Going In A Different Direction. And They Had People Like Amazon On Their Board. And They Were Not Going In The Organic Direction, But The Other Direction. And These CEOs Were All Easy Making Over Half A Million Dollars A Year. I Was Thoroughly Disheartened By This. And I Said, We Can Do Better.
[00:32:42] Are You Telling Me We Can Do Better For Our Girls, Our Boys? And So People Say, Well, I've Been Buying Cookies For Years. I Said, Please Buy The Cookies. I Said, But Rather Than Please Buy The Cookies, Could You Just Make A Donation Of Cash? And Tell Those Local Girl Scouts Why You Don't Want To Buy The Cookies. And Could They Make An Organic One? You'll Be The First One Online. So We Can Support With Our Scouts, Our Beloved Troops,
[00:33:09] Without Taking Down Their Major Support. I Think The Girl Scouts Only Make 20 Something Cents Per Box Of Cookies Sold. And Now In The U.S. They're Selling Like For $8 A Box. It Goes Most In Industry. It Was Under A Dollar. I Don't Know If It Was 20 Something Cents Or 60 Something. I Forgot The Actual Number. But They Weren't Getting The Bulk Of The Money Of The Sales. So You Would Do Better By Making A Donation To The Girl Scouts. And Don't Buy The Cookies, Which Are Toxic.
[00:33:37] So This Is Some Of The Stuff That My 501C3 Did. Because I Wasn't Seeing This Data Come Out. And Not Enough. I Never Wanted To Be A Researcher, Melissa. I'm A Clinician. And I Said, Oh My God, I Guess It's Me. And I Did It. And I Don't Need To Go Down That Rabbit Hole Again. I Know Most Of The Foods Are Contaminated. So I Have Enough Tools And Knowledge Now To Direct Parents To Healthier Food Without Having
[00:34:03] To Do The Research, Which Is A Big Commitment For Time And Money. This Testing Is Expensive. And We Pay For These Tests Out Of Our Own Pockets. And I'm So Glad That You Do This Because People Need To Know. And Something Else That You Talk About And That I Want To Share Here Again That People Need To Know Is The Medals That Are In Our Childhood Vaccines. And We Have Childhood Vaccine Schedules.
[00:34:31] And I Know Over The Course Of Your Career Again, You've Seen This Incidence In Chronic Illness Rising Significantly In Children. And I Have A 2026 Document Here In Front Of Me That Is The Childhood Vaccine Schedule Put Out By The CDC. And In 1962 A Child Got 5 Doses. And In 1983 It Had Risen To 24 Doses.
[00:35:00] And Now In 2026 It Is 75 Doses Before The Age Of 18. That's Correct. And I Would Just Love To Hear Your Thoughts On That And Is There Correlation? I Know You Were Talking About Correlation Before With The GMOs And Childhood Illness. Is There Correlation Between This Massive Increase In The Number Of Vaccines Being Recommended Children Take
[00:35:30] And This Increase In Childhood Chronic Illness That You See In Your Practice? So This Is An Important Question. And As A Homeopath, You Know Of Course Vaccines And Vaccinology Is The Closest Thing To Homeopathy In Mainstream Medicine Because You Give A Little Bit Of Something And You Are Trying To Induce A Response. It's Not Quite Like Homeopathy But It Is The Closest Thing That People Can Understand Vaccinology. Perhaps In Ideology It Is A Good Idea To Stimulate The Immune System.
[00:35:59] In Practice It's A Failure. And So The Way I Got Into This, I Took Care Of Complex Chronically Ill Children. And The Way That Evolved Was I Started Seeing An Uptake In Autism In The Early 2000s. And I Was Told I Was A Better Diagnostician. But Honestly It's Not Hard To Diagnose Autism. I'll Be Honest With You, My Grandma Could Do It. So No, I Wasn't A Better Diagnostician. And So The Question Then Began To Loom. I Saw Many Of These Kids Regressed After The MMRV, Which Is Measles, Mons, Rubella, Varicella
[00:36:27] Vaccine, Which Kids Can Get Anywhere Between 12 And 15 Months Of Age. And That's Where I Saw The Major Unrolling Of Loss Of Milestones And Development Of Autism, Which Is A Spectrum From Very Mild To Moderate To Severe. It's All Over The Place. No Two Autistic Children Look Alike, Even With The Family. I Saw A Family Of Three Boys And All Three Boys Developed Autism. It's Like I Just Can't Make This Up.
[00:36:52] So I Write A Substack And I Write A Substack Because Most Of My Stuff Would Not Get Published In Mainstream Journals. It Would Never Get Accepted. I Could Tell You That Right Now. And I Posted This, I Think Just Last Week, Do Vaccines Cause Autism? So This Is The Question I Post. So You're Giving A Stimulus To An Immune System Called The Adaptive Arm Of Immune System. Babies Have An Innate, Dominant, And An Adaptive Arm.
[00:37:21] And What You're Doing Is You're Pushing An Arm Of Their Immune System Excessively Before It Should Be Pushed. So The Adaptive Arm, The Innate Arm Is The Soldiers That See An Response Immediately And Mount A Response, Whatever The Insult Might Be, Virus, Bacteria, Toxin, Etc. It Then Talks To The Adaptive Arm And Then The Adaptive Arm Makes A Specific Antibody To That Offending Agent, Whatever It Might Be. Strep, Staff, Whatever. That's The Adaptive Arm.
[00:37:49] When You Keep Pushing That Adaptive Arm And That's What Vaccines Do, It Pushes The Adaptive Arm In The Immune System, You Can Get Something Called T-Helper 2 Skewing. And So The Body Gets Skewed To That Development. That Skewing Could Also Look Like Allergic Predominance Like Eczema, Asthma, Environmental Allergies, Food Intolerances. And So What's Supposed To Happen Is You Get This Skewing. There's A Big Immune Response, Inflammation And Resolution.
[00:38:18] However, If You're Giving These Multiple Challenges On A Terrain That Is Challenged By Dysbiosis, Abnormal Microbiome, Intestinal Permeability, Leaky Gut, Abnormal Gut Brain Barrier, From Mom Eating A Lot Of Pesticides During Pregnancy, Knowingly, Unknowingly.
[00:38:37] If You're Having Hormonal Issues Because Babies Were Exposed To PFS Or Other Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals, PBA, Plastics, Plasticizers, And Or Air Pollution. So Based On That Terrain, If You Tell Me That You Haven't Studied The Effect Of Giving An Immunomodulator Which Contains Toxic Elements Such As Aluminum, It's An Adjuvant Simitase Immune System, Polysorbidate Formaldehyde, Etc.
[00:39:05] If You Can't Tell Me The Effect Of That Multi-Agent Compound Skewing T-Helper 2 Cells Immunity On A Terrain That's Not Been Evaluated, Then You Have No Right To Give This Child An Immunomodulator. I've Labeled That Precision Pediatrics. We Have Precision Oncology. Why Shouldn't We Have Precision Pediatrics?
[00:39:26] If You Can't Tell Me Whether This Child Has A Genetic SNP For Methylation, Which Is Their Capacity To Detoxify, Then You Have No Right Doing This Immunomodulation. So Until You Can Tell Me You've Studied That Terrain In That Child With Those Factors That I've Just Listed, Melissa, Then Immunomodulation Should Not Be Employed, Whether It's In The Form Of A Vaccine, An mRNA Technology, That's Not A Vaccine, People, That's An Immunomodulator.
[00:39:52] It's A Gene-Changing Injection, People Should Understand That. And The Metals That Are Included Are Put In There Only, Like Aluminum, Prior With Mercury, In The mRNA, It's A Graphene Oxide, To Stimulate The Immunomodulation, To Mount A More Vigorous Response.
[00:40:08] What's Happened In Children, For Example, Who Have Neurocognition Issues, Autistic Spectrum, It's An Autoimmune Disease Of The Brain, By The Way, Is That They Can't, What They Have An Upregulation Of Their Immune System And They Can't Resolve The Inflammation. When Those Immune Cells In Your Brain Get Activated, They're Called Microglial Cells, Sometimes They're Really Hard To Turn Off.
[00:40:30] When You Have Chronic Activation Of Immune Cells In The Brain, You Can Develop These Neurologic Challenges, Which Are Trying To Protect The Body From Stimuli, And They Can't Be Turned Off. I Could Almost Say In A Very Simplistic Way That Maybe Autism Is A Protective Mechanism From This Chronic Stimulation Of One Arm Of The Immune System With Toxicants That The Baby Cannot Detoxify. And Don't Forget That Children Are Not Many Adults.
[00:40:59] They Have Impaired Detoxification As Compared To Adults. Your First Sign Of Detox Is Your Microbiome, Which Is Impaired. 25% Of American Babies No Longer Have Bifidobacteria. And Your Set Minds Of The Liver. Babies Do Not Have Adequate PON1 And Other Phase 1, Phase 2, Different Parts Of Detoxification. Impaired, Hepatic Is Demented.
[00:41:21] So We Have Toxic Load On An Impaired System That Has Been Under Or Zero Evaluated Injecting An Immunomodulator. Now If You Tell Me That Makes Sense To You, Then We Are Talking From Different Planets. It Doesn't Make Sense. So We Challenge Our Babies In A Way That'S Literally Destroying Their Psycho-Neuro-Endo-Immunologic Wellbeing.
[00:41:45] And It Takes Integrative Practitioners Who Are Often Out Of Network And People Pay Out Of Pocket To Get These Kids Back On Track. And That Is Why I Wrote The Book. Because Your Voice, My Voice, Our Voices Are Not Common And Not Easily Found. And Many People Do Not Know Children. They Don't Understand This Development Of The Innate Adaptive Immune Arms Acquired Through Mom Through Hopefully A Vaginal Birth And Breastfeeding.
[00:42:12] So If You Don't Know That, Then You Have No Right To Be In This Business Telling Parents That Put These Kids Back On Track. So The Parents I've Cared For Over The Decades Knew More Than Their Pediatricians. In General Pediatricians Love Kids Too. But They Are Trained In A Pharma Model.
[00:42:28] What We're Talking About Is Going From Farm To Regain The Terrain Of Kids Who've Been Taken Off Course And We Need To Get Them Back On Course Through Holistic Health, Soil, Regenerative, Organic Education. What I Wrote About Is Not Necessarily New, But It's Resurrected In 2026 Language That Millennial Parents Can Understand. I Am. Yes. And I Love That You've Done That.
[00:42:56] So Your First Book Was Talking About What We've Been Talking About Here, What's Making Our Children Sick. And Now Your Newest Book Is How To Make Our Children Well. Yes. Making Our Children Well. Absolutely. Because They've Been Assaulted. It's Been A Toxic Assault. And Parents Have Been Hoodwinked Into The System Because They're Thrown Out Of Practices If They Go Against The Clinical Model. If They Say, No, I Don't Want This Vaccine, This Tylenol, Whatever.
[00:43:25] They Are Dismissed, Abandoned, Tossed Out. I Thought, What On Earth? You Tossed Out Families. And So... I Know People That's Happened To And Their Pediatrician Says, You Can't Come Back To My Practice Anymore. I'm Not Working With You Anymore. I Just Heard That One Mom Told Me That She Had Assigned A Waiver That She Would Not Go Against The Vaccine Schedule In Order To Be Accepted Into The Practice. That She Had Assigned That Up Front Before They Would Even Take Her Into The Practice.
[00:43:56] And I... No Informed Consent There. And I Should Tell You This Also, When I Started The Book, I Had A Co-Author Who Was A Nutritionist. I Am Not A Nutritionist, But I Might As Well Be Now Because I Had To Learn It. And She Had A Problem, A Lovely, Lovely Woman. She Had A Problem With The Informed Consent Part Of My Book That I Based On The Work Of A Lawyer Named Aaron Seery, Who Works With The High Wire And Dale Bigtree. People Might Know That Podcast.
[00:44:23] And I Heard Aaron Seery Speak In Front Of The New Hampshire Legislature About Informed Consent. And I Literally Was Blown Out Of The Water. And I Modified Very Simply, Of Course, What Aaron Said. I Am A Big Fan. And I Put That In The Book. And She Said No, I Am Worried About My Job And This. We Need To Take That Out. And Of Course I Wouldn't. Because If I Am Not Telling A Parent The Benefits And Risk Of Anything I Do, I Am Not Doing My Job.
[00:44:53] And So She Left And I Had To Rewrite That Section Of The Book. And It All Worked Out Fine Because The Book Is Now My Voice Through And Through. And So It's A Better Book. And It Forced Me To Learn Something That I Needed To Learn. So Thank You Universe For Directing Me In The Right Place. Exactly. And Now You Have This Beautiful Book That Parents Can Use. I Know You Have One There If You'd Like To Hold Up The Copy For Video Viewers Of This Podcast.
[00:45:19] And Just Walk People Through How You've Laid Out The Book, How Parents Can Use It. Because This Is Such A Valuable Resource For Parents Today. Thank You. So It's Only Available On Amazon. And I Had A Publisher. And I Had To Find The Publisher Who Wanted Me To Take Out How To Treat The Vaccine, COVID Vaccine Reaction Section Of The Back Of The Book. So Journey Was Nothing But Obfuscation. I'm Talking About Empowering Healthy Families With Nutrition And Homeopathy.
[00:45:47] But Apparently That Is Too Hot A Subject. And I've Met All Kinds Of Obstacles. So I Did The Book To The Nutrition And Homeopathic Section. So I Really Teach People And Walk Through In The Gentlest, Funniest, Simplest Ways I Know How. As If You're Talking To Me In My Office, Where To Begin? How Do You Set Up Your Kitchen? How Do You Set Up Your Pantry? How To Make Simple Formulas? A Lot About Microbiome. A Lot About GMOs. A Lot About Milks.
[00:46:17] Oh, I Have A Ton About Milks. Every Kind Of Milk, Including Synthetic Milks And Genetically Modified Milks, Bored Cow, And Others. And Then I Go Into The Homeopathic Section. I Call It Stages For Ages From Pretox, Prenatal, To Adolescence. The Common Issues, How You Treat Them Homeopathically And With Nutrition. And Examples Of The Common Issues You Might See. For An Example, Diarrhea Illnesses, Croup, Dental Issues, Sprains And Strains.
[00:46:46] And I Picked Out My Favorite Ones During The Years With Some Pearls. And In The End, I Have Resource Sections With My Favorite Brands, Names, Organizations And Books, And Things That People Can Get Access To. Where You Don't Need To Have An Account With Me Or Someone. It's Direct To Consumer Products. So They Find Them The Most Organic That I Can. I'm All About The Organics.
[00:47:10] And Then Some Little Other Things On Infant Formula And How To, Oh My Gosh, I Have Even How To Deal With Lyme Disease. I Have A Little Section On Lyme. I Dealt With A Lot Of Lyme Patients. But Anyway, I Hope He, And The Idea Was That People Should Buy An Actual Paperback And Not An E-Book Or A PDF. So That I Have Note Sections. Because If You Have One, Two, Three Kids And A Dog, You Will Not Remember What Works.
[00:47:40] You Think You Will But You Don't. And The Names Of Remedies, Homeopathic Remedies Are In Latin. So They're Foreign To Us. And So People Say What? You Know Heparsulfurus, What? That's A Latin Name. Or You Know, But The Most Common Woman, Arnica, Montana. I Talk A Lot About Arnica. And So How You Get Them And Why They Were Literally Eliminated From Medical School Education. Thank You, John D. Rockefeller.
[00:48:07] And How They Made A Strong, Oh My God, They Reemerged In The 70s. And The FDA Has Been Trying To Get Rid Of It, Oh God, Forever, Since 1910. But I Think I'm Very Proud Of This Book For Its Practicality, Pragmatism, And A Doable, A Doability, I Should Say, Because Parents Are Busy, They're Overloaded, They Don't Have Time. And So I Want To Say What You Can Do In Your Home When You Don't Have A Me Or A You,
[00:48:37] And You Don't Even Have The Testing. How Do You Eliminate Foods? How Do You Eliminate Gluten And Dairy From Your Kids Diet, As You Talked About With Your Own Daughter? So I Give Lots Of Tips. And I Have A Lot About A Food Elimination. So That's The Book. Thank You For Sharing It With People. I Hope People Find It Useful. So Because I'm Not Seeing Patients Anymore. I Love That You Created The Book. You Shared The Electronic Version With Me And I Read It. It's A Very Simple Read. It's Written In Layman's Terms For Every Parent To Understand.
[00:49:06] And What I Also Love Is You Know, You've Got The Index There. While I Recommend Someone Read It From Cover To Cover, And I Think It's Great Information For Everybody To Have. In The Moment, You Might Be Getting The Book Because You Need It Now. We'll Go To The Chapters That Are Most Relevant To What's Happening Now In Your Life And What You Need To Be Addressing. You Don't Have To Read Cover To Cover For First Use.
[00:49:29] And Yes, Having The Notes Section So That You Can Write Down What You're Working On As You Implement Remedies. You've Got A Whole Chapter On Your Home Home Homeopathic Kit. So People Can Put That Together For Themselves And Sourcing The Ingredients, Etc. So I Love All Of That. And It Is So Important Because Each And Every Single One Of Us Is Different. You Know, Mainstream Medical Tends To Teach Us That We All Fit In The Same Box.
[00:49:58] This Symptom, This Box, This Drug. And That Isn't Reality. Every Single One Of Our Microbiomes Is As Different As Our Fingerprint. And So The Dosages Of The Remedies That Works For One Child Could Be Different For Another Child. And So It Is About The Trial And Error Of Following The Protocol And Adapting And Adjusting Based On How You See The Child Reacting And Being Able To Write All Of That Down.
[00:50:23] And You Have Such A Great Story About Your Little Chick Flicka That You Shared As Well That I Would Love For You To Share As We Get To The End Of This Episode Here. Well, You Know, I Love Children. I Also Love Animals And Plants. I Am That Animal Plant Child Person. And I, During COVID, I Developed Chicken Habit. And I Have Chickens. And So I Have One Little Chicken Named Flacka. And She, A Couple Months A Go Now, Got Sick.
[00:50:52] And All Of A Sudden She Wouldn't Eat Or Drink. Her Little Comb At The Top Of The Hell Started Turning Blue. A Very Bad Sign. And She Was Just In The Corner. And My Own Kids And Mom, Flacka's Dying. My Own Kid Worked On Farms And New Chickens. And I Said, Oh No. So She Was Easy To Manipulate Because She Was So Weak. And I Started Giving Her Homeopathic Remedies Based On Her Symptoms. The First One I Gave Her Was A Remedy Called Arsenicum Album. She Was Weak. She Wanted Warmth.
[00:51:22] I Also Know She Had A Little Bit Of Loose Bowel. But She Also Had Crop Stasis. That Is Where The Crop Doesn'T Digest Food Well. It Could Be Fungal. So I Was Also Doing Manipulatives With My Little Chicken And Massaging Her Crop And Trying To Do Manipulative Medicine On Her And Giving Her These Fluids. And She Turned Around. And Then What Happened To Her Is She Was Getting A Little Better, Still Weak. And The Other Chicken Pecked Her In The Head So Hard She Developed A Concussion.
[00:51:50] So She Almost Got Knocked Out From The Other Chicken Cocoa. Thank You Cocoa. Cocoa Is Still A Beast. I Gave Her Arnica Head Trauma Remedy. And I Started Doing The Drops Again And Giving Her Some Fluids In Between, A Little Bit Of Apple Cytocin Vinegar Water To Restore Her Gut In Case There Was Any Fungal Problems In Her Crop And She Recovered. She's Now Running Around, Jumping Up For Grubs, Happy As Can Be. Two Remedies, A Little Bit Of Fluid, And Apple Cytocin Vinegar Is All I Did.
[00:52:20] That's Incredible. Because You Literally Brought Her Back From Death's Door Using These Remedies. Oh, I Also Had To Give Her CarboVegetabulous That There Was One More Remedy, Pardon, I Forgot. At One Point She Really Crashed And She Was Blue. And I Gave Her CarboVeg, Which Literally, CarboVegetabulous, Which Is Literally A Corpse Remedy. And She Came Back. Thank You For That Reminder. Congratulations.
[00:52:46] And It's A Testament To The Power Of Homeopathic Medicines, Other Holistic Modalities, And That When We Pay Attention And We Look At What's Going On For This Individual, We Can Have Profound Difference On Their Health. So Thank You, Thank You So Much For Sharing Everything You've Shared Here Today, Michelle. We Could Literally Talk For Three Hours. I'm Hating To Have To End This Now. However, I Love To Ask Every Single Guest On The Show,
[00:53:16] What Does Don't Wait For Your Wake Up Call Mean To You? Yes. So I Think, You Know, Based On This Conversation, Melissa, It Would Be That You Are The Best Judge Of Yourself And Your Own Children And Your Own Animals For That Matter. And To Really Rely On Your Own Intuitive Gut Ability. And If You Feel It's Been Dulled To Develop It. And So The Beauty Of Homeopathy Is Which Remedy To Choose Is Based On Observation. And You Observing Your Own Child Or Yourself For That Matter.
[00:53:43] Or Cranky, Good Mood, Hot, Cold, Time Of Day, Left, Right, Simple Observations. I'm Not Talking About Becoming Dr. Freud Here. I'm Talking About Simple Observations You Can Make In Your Own Home. So Empowering Yourself That You Can, You Know Your Child Best. You Know Your Child Better Than I Do. And That 15 Minute Office Visit That You Might Get In Your Pediatrician's Office, I Can Guarantee You, You Know Your Child.
[00:54:12] So When You Say There's Something Wrong, My Job Is To Listen. So I Think Those Would Be My Words Today Is Self-Empowerment. You Can Do It. It May Take A Little Bit Of Practice, Just Like Playing The Piano. But That Skill, That Talent, That Capacity Can Be Developed In Everyone. I Love That. Thank You So Much For That Answer, As Well As Those Words Of Wisdom And Inspiration For Parents Everywhere.
[00:54:38] And If People Want To Get Hold Of You, Get Hold Of Your Book, If You Can Just, Again, Share With The Audience The Best Way For People To Access Your Wisdom, Your Knowledge. And Thank You So Much For All Of The Work That You Do. Thank You. So My Website Is GMOScience.org. It's A 501C3 Charity Based Here In California. And I Survive On Generosity Of Others. That's The Way I Do It.
[00:55:02] And I'm Very Grateful And Filled With Gratitude That I Can Do This And These Education Pieces. On My Website, If You Go To MakingOurChildrenWell.com, People Can Buy The PDF, Which Is A Tax Deduction. I Like For People To Buy The Book As I Mentioned. And That's On Amazon, Making Our Children Well On Amazon. I'm The Only Michelle Perro Out There So They Can Do That. And I Run A Podcast Once A Month Called The New MDs, Mothers, Doctors, And Scientists, The Third Tuesday of the Month.
[00:55:31] And All Those Podcasts Live On My Website. And We Really Delve Into That Connection Between The Mom, The Scientist, And The Physician. And I Try To Pick Scientific Topics With Practical And Late People Messaging. So That's What I Do There. And My Email If People Want To Reach Out Is Info At GMOscience.org. Thank You Very Much For Sharing All Of That.
[00:55:58] Love All Of The Resources You Offer And I Encourage Every Parent To Tap Into These Resources. It Will Only Help You Be Able To Raise Healthy Children That Can Thrive In Today's World. And Thank You To My Audience For Tuning In Every Week, For Wanting To Learn About Your Health. And If This Episode Resonates With You And You Know Someone Else That Needs To Hear It, Please Share It With Them. And Thank You Again Michelle For Your Time Coming On The Show And Sharing Your Wisdom.
[00:56:28] Appreciate You And Your Podcast And Thank You For Having Me Melissa, It's Been Fun. Absolutely My Pleasure. Thank You For Investing This Time With Me On The Don't Wait For Your Wake Up Call Podcast. I'm So Glad You Joined In. If You Can Take Two Minutes To Share This Episode With Someone You Think Can Benefit And Have A Positive Impact On Their Life, That Would Be Wonderful. Please Leave A Review By Going To Your Favorite Podcast Listening App.
[00:56:55] And Let Me Know What You Enjoy Or Would Like To Hear More Of. It Will Support Me In My Effort To Bring The Possibility Of Natural Healing To A Wider Audience And Help Disrupt The Sick Care System We Have Today And Make Human Health A Global Priority. Health Is Your True Wealth.

