Episodes

Aug. 23, 2023

714: Adam Hochschild, part 3: King Leopold's Ghost

Adam 's book Bury the Chains inspired me to see British abolitionism as a role model movement for sustainability. The writing was simple and clear. The subject inspirational and relevant. We talked about it in our first episo...
Aug. 20, 2023

713: Matthew Matern, part 3: A trial lawyer's view

Matt and I talk about his commitment and how it affected him. I talk about the Spodek Method in general and other leadership tools like creating role models. Matt talked about his hopes and expectations about technology. When...
Aug. 17, 2023

712: Guy Spier, part 1: The Education of a Value Investor

Guy is a successful, well-known hedge fund founder. He's famous for paying a lot of money for one meal with Warren Buffet (hundreds of thousands of dollars), which he found worth it. He and I know each other partly through a ...
Aug. 12, 2023

711: Kate Siber: "Should I Stop Flying? It’s a Difficult Decision to Make."

I was led to Kate's article Should I Stop Flying? It’s a Difficult Decision to Make. from a newsletter from Flight Free USA . I've read, heard, written, and said a lot about not flying. I found her article the most sensitive,...
Aug. 8, 2023

710: Madeline Ostrander, part 2: Finding Refuge on a Changed Earth

Since our last conversation, check out the reviews that have come in about Home on an Unruly Planet from past guests of this podcast: “With deep, compassionate reporting and elegant prose … Ostrander finds creativity, vital h...
Aug. 8, 2023

709: Madeline Ostrander, part 1: At Home on an Unruly Planet

What's actually happening with our environmental problems? Scientists predict. Journalists in periodicals tend to write what gets attention and clicks, so we don't know how accurately they represent versus sensationalize. The...
Aug. 5, 2023

708: Chris Bystroff, part 2: Understanding the United Nation's Projections

Talking with Chris has made me more concerned about population projections that only show the possibility of collapse as error bars. I hope to bring him and past guest Wolfgang Lutz on the podcast together to help resolve the...
Aug. 1, 2023

707: Arnold Leitner, part 1: The founder of YouSolar, more than off-grid living

Do you like my work because of my nearly unique background of a PhD in physics, having cofounded a couple companies, and having an MBA? You're in luck with Arnold, who has done the same. We got our MBAs together at Columbia s...
July 30, 2023

706: What I sound like talking sustainability when I forgot I was being recorded

You've heard me talk sustainability leadership on this podcast and probably others. Have you wondered what I sound like talking to friends unrecorded? A friend who also teaches leadership at NYU knew my background and had tal...
July 27, 2023

705: Greg Bertelsen: A bipartisan climate roadmap including a carbon tax

Recent guest Bob Litterman spoke highly of Greg and his work at the Climate Leadership Council, a rare bipartisan effort on climate. He put us in touch. In the meantime, I was curious about a climate group started by Secretar...
July 25, 2023

704: Gernot Wagner, part 1: Guiding Misguided Economic Forces in the Right Direction

Gernot and I go back a few years from meeting online over sustainability issues, finding out that we lived about a mile from each other, then meeting in person. Our first meeting, we got annoyed at each other, but our second ...
July 22, 2023

703: David Gessner, part 1: A Traveler's Guide to the End of the World

What does the world look like today with regard to our environmental situation? Not the latest news about a disaster we can write off as a one-time event, even if yet another once a once-in-a-century event now common, but wha...
July 18, 2023

702: Peter Singer, part 1: Calm, reflective talk considering not flying

With Peter Singer, I could have picked several topics relevant to sustainability leadership: veganism, vegetarianism, and charity come to mind, as does my post about him six months ago, Fixing Peter Singer’s drowning child an...
July 16, 2023

701: Robert Litterman, part 2: "We need legislation, we need a price on carbon."

You won't hear many finance people promoting more taxes, though it's increasing. Bob talks beyond our conversation a few weeks before about a carbon tax, integrity, permanence, standards, measurement, and many different angle...
July 13, 2023

700: Matt Matern, part 2: Plant a Tree

Matt shared last time about the redwoods I keep hearing about in California that I've never seen but find they transform people. His goal was to plant a tree. He ended up with a new tree, plus he planted other plants. Listen ...
July 12, 2023

699: Robert Litterman, part 1: A Carbon Tax and Managing Risk

I met Bob at a conference on climate at my old school, Columbia Business School. He knew another participant, Gernot Wagner, with whom I recorded an episode I'll post soon, and was a peer with past guest Mark Tercek . I didn'...
July 6, 2023

698: Chris Bystroff, part 1: Population Growth and Overpopulation

Population modeling can be hard, as is figuring out a prediction's accuracy, therefore how much confidence to give your conclusions. Many people can't hear talk about population without hearing things like eugenics and racism...
July 4, 2023

697: Dan Walsh, part 2: He sold his motorcycle and Playstation to gain freedom

In what looks to me like one of the biggest overcommitments of guests on this podcast and participants in the Spodek Method, Dan shares that to free his mind for meditation, he ended up selling his motorcycle and Playstation....
June 29, 2023

696: Oliver Burkeman, part 1.5: Removing Obstacles, not Making Arguments

How do you feel when you mean to do something but don't do it. Do you tell people about it? Do you hide it? Nearly no one is acting as much on sustainability as we need to to avoid disaster. Beyond not acting, we aren't facin...
June 23, 2023

695: Dan Walsh, part 1: Two-time Olympian and Bronze medalist in rowing

If learning what it's like to watch your team win an Olympic gold medal from the sidelines isn't enough, and if learning what it's like to grow up in a family beset with poverty and addiction before reaching Olympic level com...
June 21, 2023

694: Matthew Matern, part 1: Running for President on Sustainability

Matt invited me to his podcast, A Climate Change . We stayed in touch after recording. He shared that he ran for President, including supporting sustainability. A goal of this podcast is to bring elected officials of all stri...
June 17, 2023

693: Christopher Ketcham, part 2: The Green Growth Delusion

Christopher may be the most direct, accurate reporter on sustainability. Our last conversation treated his helpful and accurate reporting on the book Limits to Growth . Today we start from his (in my opinion) excellent articl...
June 13, 2023

692: Daniel, host of the "What Is Politics?" videocast, part 2: Is Changing CEOs Possible

The spiciest parts of this conversation come at the end. It's possible listeners may think we were annoying each other, but I think I can speak for both of us that we enjoyed the repartee. Anyone who has talked to me about my...
June 7, 2023

691: Oliver Burkeman, part 1.5: Embracing Our Inevitable Limitations on Time and Energy

I've been recommending Oliver's book Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals a lot. When people ask about it, I have a hard time explaining what it says, only that it's valuable. He has a way of communicating importa...