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Welcome back, everyone. We are so happy to have you here to introduce our guest today. Nancy Showalter. She is the author of the newly released book you were born to be a Christ but you were taught you are a sinner. Awaken to who you really are. She's also authored the book, it's okay to be rich, the entrepreneurs guide to increase wealth and personal mastery. Nancy is a certified law of attraction life coach, a spiritual teacher and mentor and host of spirituality for the politically incorrect podcast, as well as the founder of quantum life Academy. She is one busy lady isn't she. And over the last 30 years, she's taught spiritual development and personal development and conducted leadership training in the US, Canada, Latin America and Europe. Nancy currently speaks and conduct seminars and one on one client mentoring to help ordinary people discover their extraordinary potential to transform their personal and professional lives. She brings creativity and a unique integrated perspective to her clients and audiences who find her mentoring and presentations to be both practical and personally transforming. So excited to have Nancy, please help me welcome her to our podcast today. Welcome back, everybody. We are so excited to be here. You've learned a little bit about our guest today, the beautiful Nancy show. Walter is here. Hello, Nancy.

Hi, DeeAnne, how are you?

I'm doing great. I'm so excited to be with you today and share a little bit more about who you are, and what divine wisdom you have to share with the world today. So we're gonna get things started off as we usually do, I always love to hear a little bit of the backstory about my guests. And so Nancy, why don't you share a little bit about your backstory, you know, what brought you to where you are today. Let's hear that.

Well, I always like to say and I jokingly say, not so jokingly, that I was born with permission. I just felt as a very young age, that I had something to do with the people of the world. And I remember saying to my mother one time when I was quite young, under 10. And I said, can't you just feel the pain of the people in the world? And she looked at me and she said, No. But But thou, you know, that's just I think my nature, there's a certain sensitivity. So I was raised a Catholic, I went to Catholic school. And but then in my high school years, I started exploring other you know, I went to different religions. So even as a child, I went to some Bible school with my Protestant friends, which the church didn't like very well, but it helped broaden my whole scope, you know, of, of how you know, you look at life and so, and then I have studied the Eastern teachings of Buddhism and Taoism and you know, different different lines of thought. And then, most recently, are a verb, a good portion of my adult life, the I Am teachings by the Ascended Masters and their messengers and such over that period of time. So that has been my in depth study of the spirituality. And that's where I did most of my work and still do. We're coaching spiritually. I'm also a certified Law of Attraction coach. So I've done that also, and I do have a podcast and and I just finished my second book that I just launching, and that's you were born to be a Christ, but you were taught you are a sinner, awaken to who you really are.

I have goosebumps with that you were born to be a Christ, but you were taught to be a sinner, is that them according that right?

Well, you were taught you are a sinner.

Yes. So, you know, Nancy, I find it so interesting because I was also raised in Catholicism and, you know, started studying other are religions and other ways of belief. And so as you're going on this journey, because it sounds to me, like you just knew this, like, you know, some of us just have this deep knowing from the time we're born, you know that there's a mission to fulfill. For others, there's catalysts in life, you know, at five, I had my near death. And that was a catalyst for me of deeper discovery. When, when in your life was spirit really calling you? I'd love to know, you know, some examples of times or moments or experiences that you had in life, whether it was, you know, a parent a relationship with a loved one, what that was that really brought you into, like, this space of, there is more, was there something that happened for you as like a significant catalyst?

Well, I think like I said, As a teenager, I started looking at and exploring, and it was so funny, because I didn't know much about Eastern religions or anything like that at that point. And I remember thinking, Oh, I was meditating, and I thought, Oh, I get it. You know, we are here on Earth, until we learn, and we keep coming back. And then when we we got it all together, we don't have to come back again. And I thought, Oh, this is such a big revelation I got and then only to learn, of course, two thirds of the world believes that, you know, reincarnation, and the, the whole path is spirituality. So that, and then I studied yoga, and I taught yoga, and that the Hatha Yoga, but also some meditation. And so then I did get into the teachings of the masters. And at that point, then I did start having some real experiences. And so I don't know that there was one moment that was totally a catalyst for waking me up, it's kind of a process by which I discovered, and then, you know, had experiences in meditation and different things. And one experience that stood out when I was, you know, in my 20s, pretty young, um, I had, as a child, I had tremendous tooth problems. I had an abscess tooth and a lot of pain, because back then they didn't even all the time, give you any kind of sedative. And so I decided, I am never going to the dentist again. And so I did that for about 11 years. And then I was, you know, I developed a toothache. And so I had to go to the dentist. And so I didn't really want to, but you know, I had to do something. So I was in meditation one day, and I was shown how to transcend the pain of the dentist. And this was a lesson that was more than just physical pain as it turned out. But I was told when you go to the dentist, you simply relax in the chair, and you get very centered heart center, and then visualize a spiral of energy moving upward. And when the dentist goes to touch your tooth, to drill on it, and I didn't have any sensitive, you don't resist the pain, you move into the pain, you go with the feeling, I'm going to experience this pain to the fullest. And then you're going to follow that spiral of energy up, and you'll be above the pain. And that's exactly what I did. It's not numbing. It's not a numbing exercise, I could feel the pain, pain, but I wasn't in it. I was above it. And so I did that for many years with the dentist. But it also was a tremendous teaching for life. It's like don't resist the pain. Don't resist it, but go through it, experience it, but just go right through it and go to a higher level. And then you can experience painful things, but you're not in the pain. You're not claiming that pain.

I love this so much. And I'm so glad this LED here because first of all, I do want to speak to the fact that for you it was just this progression in this process of evolution. And I think for a lot of humanity, it is that way where it's not maybe one particular catalyst, you know, and I tell people that all the time like you don't have to have a near death or some big catalyst to choose God or to choose spirit or to choose the path. You can just choose it and you did that you did that. so beautifully, just having this inner knowing and leaning into that and being curious. So I want to comment to that, first and foremost, because I want our listeners to know that it doesn't have to be some big, you know, kaboom, or some big catalyst. Right? The second thing, of course, is this idea of transcending pain. And let's speak to this, because I think our world is in quite a bit of suffering. And as you alluded to, in your story there, you said, I could feel the pain of the world, you know, and I asked my mom, I can't you feel that too, you know, she couldn't feel it. But you certainly could. And I think a lot of people, they block it, they want to pretend it's not there, you know, they push it aside, they resist it, which naturally causes a bit more pain for ourselves. And what you learned is a tool to be able to help you to move through the pain. And I think that if most of us could do that, when we're having pain and discomfort, of really seeing it as this channel, or this portal, or this gateway to something much more. I mean, when we think about it, we chose to come in to humanity as human beings didn't mean at sea, you know, we chose to be here, because we could experience time, we Yes, and we could, and then allowing us to experience the highs and the lows, we wanted to experience it. And then we're getting to experience and we're like, no, wait, I don't want to experience that. After all. Why did I choose to come here? And that's problems, isn't it? Yeah.

Yes. But but it's not to resist these things. That's the key. That's the whole key. And it has, it has to do with fear, too. We don't resist our fears. When you resist you actually setting up a tie to that very thing you're resisting. And it's more painful to resist them to. And I don't mean you dwell on your fears, or you dwell on your pain. But just like, the whole thing with the dentist, you move through it, you don't resist it, you move into it, throw it to the other side or above it, however you want to look at it, and then you can deal with it from that higher perspective. It's not that you're suppressing anything.

No, it's that you actually get to see it, you know, you are hurt. That's you, you because it you do even though you might still be experiencing the pain itself, it changes that relationship with it, doesn't it? Yes, does it saying I see you and I feel you to the fullest. And I'm going to honor you and I'm going to hold space for you, for me to just be in you. And I think that's that's adding to the key of non resistance. It's saying no, I see you. And you know, Avatar number two just came out and an avatar. That's what they say when they're expressing their love for each other. They say I see you. And I think that's what the pain wants. It wants to be seen. It wants to be heard. I mean, that's the whole point. You know, when we have pain in our physical body, it's that last resort for the the universe for spirit to say, hey, there's something there's something not going quite right here pay attention. And yet, we're so good at saying I'm not paying attention to that. I don't want to go there. Yeah.

Again, I want to be clear that I'm not saying you should revel in feeling this pain. But it's a mindset that you're going to move through whatever the situation is, you're going to feel it to the fullest. But you are going to go to the other side.

Yes, indeed.

And we're, or the higher perspective and we're in there. So yes, you feel the pain. Yes, you feel the fear, but you're not in it. You're not in in your movie. It's, it's in you for a moment.

Yes, yes, we witness it. And I well, I think this is all this goes back to alchemy too. Because I think as soon as we witness it, as soon as we say yes, I feel you I see you, then already that energy starts to shift, like you said, now you've gone through it, you're on this other side. And now you can receive all the values, you know, the learnings, the lessons, whatever it is, we can see that so much more clearly from that other side. So, I love that I think,

And you can deal with it. With whatever it is some you know, we have sometimes very issues, you know, in our life. And so this is a way you're going to deal with it from that Christ perspective, that Christ Consciousness perspective versus the human victim perspective.

Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about that. Because you know, you obviously have been called by spirit to write these books. And so you know, or do you channel the books is it go All that comes through you and speaks through us at Christ consciousness when you're going through your book writing process, because I think this book is so powerful in undoing so much of the conditioning that you know, we have to stay in sick in sin and, and we have to feel guilty and shameful. And I want to speak to guilt and shame, because I really think it's a big piece of this. And it's keeping a lot of people from, you know, stepping into their truth and having a life's life lives where they don't feel so burdened, and net suffering. So can you know, to your book process and speak to maybe Christ consciousness as it relates to guilt and shame?

Well, my book process isn't just meditating, but of course, it's meditating. But I also research the book has a lot of research and a lot of different things to, from different from psychological perspectives, from different perspective to support the spirituality a little bit from quantum physics, you know, that kind of thing, everything energy, and you know, these kinds of points. So a lot of things do come together to support the spiritual aspects. I focus a lot with scripture, as well as these other things I'm saying the other sources, and my own inspirations and such teachings from masters that have come forth, and drawing and putting it all together. But one of the main focuses in the book, to begin with is saying that this great awakening began, we're in the middle of it, but at the Gan with the incarnation of Jesus Christ, and offering people to say, it doesn't matter if you're Christian, doesn't matter what religion you are, it doesn't matter if you're not a religion, but just set things aside and take a look at this incarnation, and what it actually meant. It meant, we have an example right in our face of what it means to be the Christ, and what it means to be in human condition. And how that out picture and what does it mean to be the Christ in that, that consciousness and also to be able to challenge darkness and unreality as it exists. So this is a very important thing. So I do talk about a lot of the Scriptures and different things. But not just that, that but there's a portion, you know, chapter so on this, of how important it is for us to recognize that if you look at the scriptures, if you do happen to be Christian, or looking at the biblical scriptures, that I quote, things from Buddhism and different things to you know, and it said, were made in the image and likeness of God, and male and female, he made us and in the beginning was the Word and the Word is I am, God said, that's his name. He told Moses, that's my name, I Am that I Am forevermore. So when we, when God speaks, I am an individualized identity of him comes into existence, and that's us. And, you know, God's only begotten Son is the Christ. And just as God duplicates himself over and over in his creation, he's duplicating also that Christ within, and we come into the physical plane. I happen to believe that prior to was recorded as the fall of man, there were Christic actual incarnations of souls that never fell into this, relative to good and evil, but stayed in their pure consciousness. And then with the fall, that's when the Christ consciousness, it we separated from it, right, we were originally that is our identity. And so the mission of Jesus, he also came to restore the sons and daughters of God to their rightful place, as sons and daughters of God. He said, You can do these things, and greater if you follow me, not as a little puppy runs after the master, but follow me by becoming as I am. And yes, there's only one Son of God, Christ, but it's not. It's reproduced in all of God's children. And so it's claiming that Christic consciousness and you can call it whatever you want, if someone's a different religion, you know, it's also referred to as the higher mental body, that

The higher self, right?

Yeah, correct. Yeah. All the different, you know, things that words, whatever the words you put to it, it doesn't really matter. It's the same thing. It's that, you know, vibration, and that claiming of our true identity and true. And I totally believe that this is important. Number one for the individual, like you say, with shame and guilt, and I have a whole chapter on stinner No more. And, you know, realizing, yeah, we all have sinned and made mistakes, but that's not where we identify ourselves with. That's something we're working on. It's again, it's, you know, it's from who we really are. And so we are in the process of trying to restore our oneness. And that we lost by separating into a human consciousness, creating karma, you know, and having to come back and learn and grow, and all those things have happened. So it's very important for us, you know, the hardest thing I think, is to forgive ourselves, I really do believe that it's almost easier to forgive people who have harmed us, or ask for forgiveness for anyone we may have harmed. But it's very difficult to forgive ourselves. Yeah. And so, you know, we, you know, how many times do these things come up in your life? Oh, you did this? Oh, you did that, you know, and, and there are forces out there that do like to give you those thoughts, you know, to keep you down. And so. So I believe that the problems of the world, the problems of the individual really stems from this, not knowing who we are and becoming that victim, we're a victim, we're a sinner, where, you know, we we've sinned, yes. Okay. So we all have, none of us are perfect, we know that, you know, that's not it. But to really be able to bring this earth and to the golden age that I believe is meant to be, we have to become our one with a Christ consciousness. And when enough people do that, it simply changes the world.

It is it is the critical mass, you know,

Exactly.

We get to that point. And it's just a snowball from there. And I love what you're speaking to I remember, for a while there, I don't know how long ago it was, but it was the question, What would Jesus do? Right? Right, do you might remember that? What would Jesus do? And I think that we are being called and invited to really ask ourselves that question, you know, how can I show up in a Christ like way in this experience and that experience, and I think even just as asking ourselves, that question in itself, will help us to make better decisions. But at the same time, you know, as it relates to that guilt, and that shame, and being a sinner, you know, I want to speak to that, because, you know, I was raised Catholic myself, and I had a lot of guilt and shame that I built up. And, you know, I even as an adult, you know, I'm thinking back to things that I did when I was in grade two, for Pete's sake, and thinking like, Oh, my God, I'm still carrying that, like, That can't be good. You know. And I remember I remember this very clearly, Nancy, I thought that if I felt really, really, really, really bad about something that it would like, balance out that karmic debt, you know, like the worst I felt, then that would help me to be forgiven, if that makes any sense. And, and so I thought,

Yeah, because that's embracing.

I had to punish myself. So it was like this self punishment, if I punished myself enough, then all would be repented, you know, and it would balance out the karmic debt. And so I think a lot of us do this, and you spoke to that, to where, you know, we were so hard on ourselves, and we have trouble forgiving ourselves. And this is not to say that, you know, all guilt is bad. You know, I think that sometimes the guilt is good, it can be a compass for us to really do things, so we need it. But when it's hanging there over us, and it constantly comes back, getting us into that victimhood, that sinner mode that I have to self punish. Oh my goodness, that's where we get caught up in this vicious cycle. So Nancy, if somebody wants to move through this process of moving into like, Okay, well, how do I forgive myself? What are some things that you might want to share about how we can start that process of forgiveness?

Well, I have a I did have a, an experience, but this was after I was in the spiritual path, but in my 20s Again, I had this experience organically again. On. I remember, I don't even remember what the situation is to be perfectly honest. But I was very deeply hurt somebody or something, you know, happened. And I was crying, and I'm not a crier, I don't cry a lot, you know, over, things like that when I was younger, too, I just didn't cry a whole lot. But I was crying because I was very deeply hurt. And I was, all of a sudden, I once again, pulled up, and I was watching myself crying, and feeling this. And I said to myself, if I go, if I continue this, I will be a victim the rest of my life. And so the way I was guided to handle it was, I started talking to myself, while I'm crying, I'm talking to myself verbally. And I'm saying, Nancy, I love you, I love you. And I'd hug myself figuratively. And I'd say, you know, it doesn't matter if he or she thinks this or did this, because I love you, I have your back. And you don't have to be afraid at all. And that became a powerful technique for me all my life, that I realized when we have painful experiences, and then we come across this similar situation, what happens, we immediately that what I say is like the inner child, that child, that part of us, that is you know, our soul, you can say your Christ self, and you can say your soul. Or you can say, your adult self, and the inner child, whatever terms you want to use, but the point is, you're the adult, and you're going to have to help heal this child from the wounds, and something else comes up. And once again, what do we usually do we, the inner child, we push it right out there, and it's abused again, right? So it's learning this process. And this is how I do teach people is learning to say, Start nurturing yourself, loving yourself healing that child, it's okay, you know, we're gonna get through this, or I'm handling this, you know, somebody comes up and hurts you. And I just say, It's okay, I'm here, I got your back, I'm handling this, it's not your problem. Because you're talking to a portion of yourself that has been injured.

Yes, I would actually,, I'd like to call it mothering yourself, you know, to master yourself. Right, you know, I had a client that was struggling, she was my mom's not here for me. And she was sad. And I said, Well, have you tried mothering yourself, you know, we have that ability to do that. It doesn't have to come from outside of us. So I think that's such a great opportunity, as we're moving through that forgiveness piece, to come at it from the lens of a mother, you know, a loving, unconditional loving mother. And sonically allow yourself to be your own mother in this, you know, just like Nancy, you shared this process of talking to yourself. So becoming the observer, having a conversation and actually saying, I love you, allowing yourself to go through that in your mind's eye. So whether it's through a visualization, whether that's through talking in your head doesn't matter for the reality is that you can mother yourself. And in that process, what happens is, we can have deeper layers of compassion for ourselves, to find that place of forgiveness within ourselves. Because I think that's such a key. I think, if everybody in the world forgave themselves for the damage, they've done the things they've said or didn't say, or whatever it is, I think that that already would shift the consciousness so much in this world.

Absolutely. And I usually when you say Mother yourself, that's what I usually tell people is, you become the parent, and what would you do with a child who's hurt? And, you know, crying and whatever? How would you love that child? How would you nurture that child? How would you come for that child? And there's the other side of it. Sometimes we have to discipline that inner child. It's like, they're all starts replaying these, you know, little things we create in our mind, you know, replaying the chatter in the head. And it's like, no, we're not going there, Nancy, no, we're not going there. We've already solved that issue. We're not going to repeat it. You know this. You know how we get that mind? stuff around. And so, you know, and sometimes also, I mean, I'd go through my life and I, you know, be so busy, and it's like, part of you is going, you know, I'm I know, I can't do it anymore. And at that point I speak to my inner child, I said, Look, I understand, you're right. But I need you to be with me to finish this. And then on such and such a day, or whatever, we're going to do this, or we're going to relax, we're going to, you know, do whatever it takes. And so it sounds kind of silly, because obviously, we're one person. But once you get a momentum on that, then after a while, you know, you are integrated. And you know, you don't have to deal with that so much in such a big way.

This is what I also call building relationship to aspects of our being. So really, what this is, is we're building a relationship with the ego mind or the child mind, we're building a relationship with these aspects of ourselves, building a relationship with the feelings that we have, even it's all about relationship. And I think if we can come to that space, and recognize that we're not, we're not that center that you, you know, you referenced in your book, we're not just that we're this very dynamic, being with many different moving parts and components. And so if we can begin to nurture and build those relationships within ourselves, that's really a space where the magic starts to happen. So I love that that's part of your teaching and understanding. And again, it comes back to being the observer, doesn't it, you know, that observer and being willing to have those conversations. So for all the listeners who talk to yourselves all the time, you're probably doing something right already.

And recognizing the fact that we can say I am, we are conscious beings, we're the only ones on this planet that can say that animals can be super intelligent, they can do it, learn all kinds of things, but they can't choose to change themselves, to progress to literally go from center to Christ. Consciousness, you know, they can't do that. But I am, that is the place when you can meditate in the heart, because that's, to me, that's where the divine, that's where the Divine is anchored that spark of life, that I Am Presence is within us. And when that is withdrawn, then indeed, the body is laid down, and we move on. So we have that constant flow of energy from that I am source, and that the fact that we can say I am, indicates that that is the name of God, and that is, we are manifestations of God. And we're meant to be that on this earth. And, and we're all in our different stages of where we are with claiming the Christ consciousness and understanding and trying to be you know, the best person we can be and, and contribute to society, to the world, to our families, to our communities, whatever. But to me, this is when we are going to solve these problems and overturn various negative forces. And you know, people say, Well, gee, is there really such a thing as evil? And I do talk about this in the book? Well, in reality, no, in the ultimate sense, there is no evil. But right here, we all have free will. It's kind of like we're creating an image and likeness of God, we were given free will. And that's where our equality ends, because we have choices of what we do. And so, you know, Jesus was tempted by the devil.

Yeah. Yeah.

He said, he said, the prince of this world come with, but he has nothing in me, meaning he didn't have his karma. You know, he didn't have the sins as you say. But the point is he he recognized and I believe part of his big part of his mission was to come and judge those, because even though you say Jesus was so loving and compassionate everything well think about it. He overturned the money changers. He told the leaders, the Jewish leaders that they were, like, set bulkers full of dead men's bones. Can you imagine saying that, you know, in public, he called out evil where it was because that was part of who the Christ is. Yeah, so we too can not necessarily going out publicly to call out evil but I mean, we can invoke light.

Yes.

Focus light into evil. I like to think of the evil as an energy veil. It separates us from are higher consciousness, and then we act out in a in a very negative way or can make wrong choices. So we do have free will, and we have dominion over this earth. And God doesn't just come and interfere in everything, we have to invoke the angels, we have to invoke the Masters, we have to invoke that assistance, and even our own im presence in Christ self we have to has come to this dimension. And let me be your vessel, you know, so that we're one again,

I love this conversation, I think we could probably go on forever. But you know, I think we've given some really some things for people to think about. And I, I do want them to, you know, lean into this conversation and where it could go for them in their healing. But I want to bring a prayer forward. This isn't a book called Everything Belongs by our father, Richard Rohr, and you probably have come across this book at some point in your discovery. But in there, he has this beautiful prayer, and I'm just going to share it with people. And then we're going to kind of come into a wrap up here. So here's the prayer. Be still and know that I am God. Be still and know that I am. Be still and know. Be still be. Amen. This is such this is an invocation in itself. And you use the word invoking which I really love because we're, we're saying I am God Be still and know that I am God. You know, we are extensions, like you said, we are made in the like image of. And so we are extensions of God of Christ consciousness and coming to back to home, this is what it's all about. Right now. This is the big awakening that we're in the middle of people, this invitation for us to return home, and that sometimes people feel, you know, they don't go the path because it's scary or whatever. And that's why you and I are here, Nancy to tell people, you're not alone. You know, not alone. So, Nancy, you had some really good tidbits. Is there any other like tip tool, anything you want to share in terms of takeaways that people can I have? I think we covered a lot of ground today. But is there anything you want to add to what we've shared already?

Yes, I would like to add something. And, to me, this is a huge key. And that is when you know, with every fiber of your being, not just intellectually, but you absolutely know that the power in you, within you is greater than any power outside of you. When you know that, then you are protected by that power within you. You know, even though you can still call for Archangel Michael, you can call for angels to protect you and seal you and invoke their presence. But you can resist negative energies, there's plenty of negative energies on the planet these days. And that is your power, the power in you is greater than any power outside of you. And when you know that you don't have to be a victim.

I love that. And I'm gonna say it again, because it's so palpable, the power in you is greater than any power outside of you. Oh, that is good. Oh, Nancy, this has been so much fun. So if people want to reach out to you, if they want to read your books, you know, what have you got for them in terms of following up? How can they find you?

We'll, uh, my book website is theawakeningnow.com. And there, you learn more about the book, I have three bonuses, whether you buy the book or not. And of course, you could buy the book from there. So that's theawakeningnow.com. And my website then is also NancyShowalter.com. My name and.com. And you can get to everything on my website on my personal website, you know, whether it's my podcast is spirituality for the politically incorrect.

Oh, I love that. Great. Yeah.

So I go and you know, I just am launching a little series of five I think podcasts that will be coming out. First one came out on Sunday on universal laws. And I have three that I think are the core universal laws and so I invite people they can go to the podcast, but you go to my website, NancyShowalter.com And you can get to about everything. And if you go to the book website at theawakeningnow.com, you can also get to, you know, the address for my personal website. So I would really invite everyone to take a look at the book. It's available on Amazon. It's available on Barnes and Noble, both the ebook, you know, the, well, whatever they go for, you know, I think it's no book, and you know, the other one, as well as the soft paperback, you so available.

That's wonderful. So we'll put that in the show notes so that our audience can grab those links very easily when they're listening to the podcast. Thank you so much, Nancy, for doing your divine work for fulfilling your mission on this planet. At this time. You are most certainly an Earth Angel. And I thank you so much for gracing us with your presence today. So until next time, we're going to say goodbye to everyone. Thank you so much for listening. I can't wait to be with you again next time. Bye, everyone.