508: Eric Orts, part 2: To the U.S. Senate, living the values he leads

Since Eric's last time here, he formally declared he is running for office. Now he's reporting back months into his campaign.

Did Trump not being in office slow him down? Or did our environmental problems motivate him even more?

How about his commitment to avoid flying? Surely he gave it up to campaign, right? Or did he? Whichever way he went on that commitment, the decision must have been difficult, so we'll get to hear about his values.

We talked about half about running for office, the challenge of choosing, consulting with people from President Biden to his wife, raising funds, handling his job as a tenured professor, considering travel across a large state and to Washington DC, and more.

This podcast was one of Eric's first public statements of considering to run. Now he returns to share the experience, with an election looming.

• Eric's campaign page, including his policies and many videos

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