377: Chris Manhertz, part 2: Tough times don't last. Tough people do.

Our last episode ended with two subjects either of which I'd love to cover---an NFL tight end picking up other people's garbage and stoicism. We had covered life for a professional team athlete under a pandemic. Then George Floyd and Black Lives Matter eclipsed the pandemic in the media and public discourse.

We covered all these topics in this episode, starting with stoicism, which I think set the tone for thoughtful, reflective conversation on

important but difficult topics.

None of my podcasts are scripted, but this was probably my most unscripted. Though it only scratched the surface of sharing personal experiences, hopes, fears, expectations, and other vulnerabilities, it seems the start of what to share. In this case, Chris's thoughtful conversation helped, especially applying stoicism to our situation.

On a personal note, as an emerging public figure, if I'm not flattering myself to say so, I've had conversations with friends and family with misunderstandings that got us angry at each other, even if on the way to greater understanding. It's scary to talk about personal things in an environment where people look to interpret things in the worst way.

It sure is easier to watch others in public and criticize them.

• Check out this video showing off Chris's offensive line skills: Chris Manhertz shutting down the league's top pass rushers

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