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The threats to our world are real and the conversations your kids are having in the school cafeterias, on text chains, at athletic games are real too.
There is real fear, real instability and real questions stirring in them and it can be very hard to figure out how to parent and guide during these times.
On this episode I will go through a checklist of 5 things you can do to make sure you are staying on course to help your child and family through this and other world events.
Be sure to come and take notes!
About the Host:
Nellie Harden is a wife of 20+ years, mom to 4 teen/tween daughters, dreamer, adventurer, servant, multipreneur, forever student, and a devoted teacher, but her ride-or-die passion is her work as a Family Life Coach & Mentor.
Coming from a career background in marine mammal sciences, behavioral work, and a host of big life experiences, both great and not some not so great, she decided that designing a life of purpose and freedom was how she and her husband, along with their 4 daughters, wanted to live.
Her work and passions exist in the realms of family and parent mentorship because she believes that a family filled with creativity, fun, laughter, challenge, adventure, problem-solving, hugs, good food, and learning can not only change a person’s life but is the best chance at positively changing the world.
She helps families build Self-Led Discipline™ & Leadership Into their homes, sets their children up for a wildly successful life on their terms, and elevates the family experience with big joy, palpable peace, and everyday growth!
With a lifelong passion and curiosity in thought, choice, behavior, and growth she has found incredible joy in helping families shift perspective, find answers, and a path forward.
(Nellie has been coaching families for over 10 years and has degrees in Biology, Animal Behavior and Psychology. )
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Hello and welcome to the 6570 family project
Nellie Harden:podcast. If you are a parent of a tween teen or somewhere on the
Nellie Harden:way, this is exactly the place for you. This is the playground
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Nellie Harden:the real challenges in raising kids today how to show up as
Nellie Harden:parents and teach your kids how to show up as members of the
Nellie Harden:family and individuals of the world. My name is Mellie Hardin,
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Nellie Harden:porch mama, who loves igniting transformation in the hearts and
Nellie Harden:minds of families by helping them build self love, discipline
Nellie Harden:and leadership that elevates the family experience, and sets the
Nellie Harden:kids up with a rock solid foundation, they can launch
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Nellie Harden:Hello, and welcome to another episode of the 6570 family
Nellie Harden:project podcast where we are putting aside the power
Nellie Harden:struggles and finding a path to lead our young women and young
Nellie Harden:men toward the confidence, wisdom and respect that they
Nellie Harden:need in order to prepare them for the world. And today we're
Nellie Harden:gonna be talking about kind of a sensitive subject. So prepare.
Nellie Harden:And we're dealing with a sensitive time in history right
Nellie Harden:now. And I am not one to shy away from what's really
Nellie Harden:happening. And I know this can make some people uncomfortable,
Nellie Harden:and some people don't want to talk about it out of sight out
Nellie Harden:of mind. But the reality is that it is happening right now. And
Nellie Harden:it is everywhere splashed across every social, every news, every
Nellie Harden:newspaper, and across many cafeterias and lunch rooms and
Nellie Harden:sports complexes and things across the world right now. So I
Nellie Harden:thought it was really important to have a conversation about it
Nellie Harden:today. And of course, I'm talking about what is happening
Nellie Harden:with Russia and Ukraine. Now I am recording this about a week
Nellie Harden:and a half earlier than you are then it is being released. So I
Nellie Harden:am quite aware that whatever I say today, as far as what what's
Nellie Harden:actually happening happening in the news could be different this
Nellie Harden:afternoon, let alone in a week and a half from now. But what
Nellie Harden:I'm going to share with you today, it will it will
Nellie Harden:definitely be useful missing my words here, it'll definitely be
Nellie Harden:useful no matter what. So just listen, and I'm going to give
Nellie Harden:you five points today that you definitely want to just kind of
Nellie Harden:put into your mind as far as how to deal with this with your
Nellie Harden:family and your kids. So the world's always been threatened.
Nellie Harden:Right? And but right now it's being threatened in a bigger way
Nellie Harden:than it is typically threatened. I mean, we we here in history,
Nellie Harden:and there's always been wars, there's always been, you know,
Nellie Harden:disarray and dismay across all the borders and what have you
Nellie Harden:since literally the beginning of recorded history. This has been
Nellie Harden:happening, but right now it's just bigger and why is it
Nellie Harden:bigger? Well, there is bigger forces that play there's bigger
Nellie Harden:weapons at play, there's bigger results at play. There's bigger
Nellie Harden:consequences, right? And so it's when I was little Did anyone
Nellie Harden:else ever read? Dr. Seuss is the butter battle book. Right? And
Nellie Harden:this is what it kind of reminds me up right and it's it's the
Nellie Harden:town on one side that does their butter on the upside of the
Nellie Harden:toast and the town on the other side does the butter on the
Nellie Harden:bottom side of the toast totally inane thing to fight about but
Nellie Harden:they are fighting about it. And so it starts off with a little
Nellie Harden:like, you know, water pistol or something like that. And by the
Nellie Harden:end of the book, it is this huge monstrous weapon that they have
Nellie Harden:both, you know, constructed on either side. And I feel like in
Nellie Harden:some way we're somewhere in the butter battle book right? Not to
Nellie Harden:say that the reason that we're doing it is as inane as butter
Nellie Harden:on the upside or the downside, but as far as wars over time
Nellie Harden:over since the beginning of recorded history, we are
Nellie Harden:somewhere in the years is bigger, mine is bigger, yours is
Nellie Harden:bigger, mine is bigger, and this this gameplay that we have going
Nellie Harden:on so I have been teaching the history of science which
Nellie Harden:coincides with the history of the world over the past 100 I'm
Nellie Harden:sorry, the history of world wars, right history of science
Nellie Harden:definitely goes hand in hand with the history of world wars
Nellie Harden:over the last 100 years. And the fact is, it's an ongoing story.
Nellie Harden:Right? It's just that sometimes there's fighting and sometimes
Nellie Harden:there's not. And peace is a very borrowed pieces always on
Nellie Harden:borrowed time, right. But it's this ongoing story. And it's
Nellie Harden:just really interesting, because we just finished reading some
Nellie Harden:about World War Two with my kids the other day, and they were the
Nellie Harden:ones that were like, Isn't doesn't this have to do with
Nellie Harden:some stuff that's going on now? I'm like, Yeah, does. And so let
Nellie Harden:me just say, right off the bat, I am not a conspiracy theorist.
Nellie Harden:I am not a catastrophist. I am not a super right or super left
Nellie Harden:person. What I am, though is I am an observer. And I am a
Nellie Harden:researcher, and I am a realist. And the fact is, the world is
Nellie Harden:being threatened right now that that is no exaggeration or lie,
Nellie Harden:things change daily. And we are trying to just keep up and pray
Nellie Harden:and prepare as best as possible as people. And as parents. That
Nellie Harden:was a whole lot of peace in there. But it is very true. So
Nellie Harden:let me give you a small glimpse of a timeline in here because it
Nellie Harden:escalated really quick. And I'm not talking about a timeline for
Nellie Harden:what was happening. I'm talking about a timeline as far as what
Nellie Harden:was happening in our children's heads and conversations. So 224,
Nellie Harden:right, February 24. That's the big headline that's splashed
Nellie Harden:across the news and across people's mouths and
Nellie Harden:conversations that day, Russia invaded Ukraine, right? To 24.
Nellie Harden:Well, on to 25 talks at the high school were ablaze with talks of
Nellie Harden:a draft. When is the draft going to come? Well, I wonder what my
Nellie Harden:number is going to be? Are women going to be included in the
Nellie Harden:draft this time? Of course they will, because of all the, you
Nellie Harden:know, equal rights between men and women. So we have to
Nellie Harden:prepare, we need to go. That is the conversation happening in
Nellie Harden:the cafeteria, right? To 26. Talks about atomic wars and the
Nellie Harden:end of civilization are being reflected in conversations and
Nellie Harden:texting, in more cafeteria, right? And across social media
Nellie Harden:outlets and things like that for kids, for kids. Massive
Nellie Harden:catastrophizing, right? And then it is a whole pattern. It's been
Nellie Harden:a whole pattern since then, as far as what's going to happen,
Nellie Harden:when's it going to happen? Right? What's going to happen?
Nellie Harden:When's it going to happen, which means and there's been more
Nellie Harden:news, but in the whole pattern comes a lot more imagination
Nellie Harden:coming from the kids, and a lot more stories that are coming
Nellie Harden:from the kids. So even if they are not on social media, or
Nellie Harden:watching the news stories that are being told, you're gonna get
Nellie Harden:things like I had a kid, a young woman come up to me at youth,
Nellie Harden:where I serve every single week. And she was like, did you hear
Nellie Harden:that moms and babies were blown up. I was like, Oh, wow. Okay,
Nellie Harden:so we have to have this, you know, we're going to have this
Nellie Harden:conversation right now, it really wasn't the time for it.
Nellie Harden:But we are going to have that conversation right now. Because
Nellie Harden:this young woman was going around and talking to a bunch of
Nellie Harden:different people about it. And I was like, Okay, we need to, you
Nellie Harden:know, sit down and talk about this, she's obviously having a
Nellie Harden:lot of feelings about this. She wants to be the one to tell
Nellie Harden:people about this. And so we need to, to have that in here.
Nellie Harden:Because everyone in there is coming from a different
Nellie Harden:perspective, different home, different ideals, different ways
Nellie Harden:that they communicate with their kids. And so this is what I'm
Nellie Harden:talking about. Even if you don't think it's a threat, or even if
Nellie Harden:you want to put it in, you know, in a separate envelope and shut
Nellie Harden:it and put it away because you're dealing with other things
Nellie Harden:at home and you don't want to think about it in your in the
Nellie Harden:mentality, there's nothing I can do about it. Therefore, I will
Nellie Harden:not spend time thinking about it. I will not spend my emotions
Nellie Harden:worrying about it. And I'm just going to put it over there. If
Nellie Harden:you have kids, I mean, a three of mine are homeschooled, right?
Nellie Harden:And they're still having these conversations with friends. And
Nellie Harden:so I'm going to go through with you five things that you can do
Nellie Harden:right now as this is escalating, or this is hopefully de
Nellie Harden:escalating by the time you're listening to this but with
Nellie Harden:anything, any of this big world news, these history making
Nellie Harden:events. I want you to keep these five things in mind. Okay, so
Nellie Harden:number one, don't sweep it under the rug. Right? This is a real
Nellie Harden:event. These are real people's lives over there. They need real
Nellie Harden:help. And this is history in the making. So when we create this
Nellie Harden:us and them mentality or perspective, when they're when
Nellie Harden:they're young, it persists. Right? And they get this idea of
Nellie Harden:That's not my problem. It's just one of the greatest excuses of
Nellie Harden:all time, right? This is how we have people that have so much,
Nellie Harden:you know, income, yet we have starving people in the world.
Nellie Harden:And I'm not saying that you need to give everything off your back
Nellie Harden:in order to help. But I've seen this on big scales and on small
Nellie Harden:scales. That's their problem. I don't have to deal with it. I
Nellie Harden:grew up in the suburbs of Detroit, in Michigan, in the
Nellie Harden:United States of America, Detroit, especially back then,
Nellie Harden:they've really done a lot of beautiful work now, in order to
Nellie Harden:reconstruct and rebuild their communities. But back then,
Nellie Harden:Detroit was not a place that you wanted to go right in the early
Nellie Harden:and mid 80s. And it was living in the suburbs. I probably
Nellie Harden:lived, I don't know, maybe say 45 minutes out, right, right
Nellie Harden:down Woodward, if any of you Michiganders that are listening,
Nellie Harden:and so I remember back then, oh, that's a Detroit problem. That's
Nellie Harden:a Detroit problem. I was living in the suburbs of Detroit, I was
Nellie Harden:45 minutes away. And I it was never a thought to me, oh, let's
Nellie Harden:go down and see what we can do and help. Because it was very
Nellie Harden:much in us and them in our communities that we were in up
Nellie Harden:there. Right. We were in the in the quote unquote, safe part.
Nellie Harden:And they were right. The they they were Detroit. And so
Nellie Harden:there's this separation between them. And my point being that if
Nellie Harden:you create this, US them when they're young, they're going to
Nellie Harden:have to take a lot of work later on in order to break through
Nellie Harden:that. And it's not going to be easy. It's not going to be easy.
Nellie Harden:As you remember the good Samaritan story, right? I am a
Nellie Harden:Christian, personally. And in the Bible, there's that great
Nellie Harden:story about the Good Samaritan. And so there is someone that is
Nellie Harden:beat up on the side of the road. And these people are passing,
Nellie Harden:and they're just looking down. They're like, Oh, that really
Nellie Harden:stinks for him. Right? And they just move on. These are people
Nellie Harden:from his own community. People that were supposedly religious
Nellie Harden:leaders and things they were just looking down and saying,
Nellie Harden:Oh, poor, you, stinks for you. Moving on, right? This is me.
Nellie Harden:That is you. And then there was a Samaritan that came along and
Nellie Harden:the Sumerians were not well liked people, they were kind of
Nellie Harden:the pond scum, if you will, was the mentality of the Sumerians
Nellie Harden:back then. But it was the Samarian that picked him up,
Nellie Harden:helped him bandage him up, and helped heal him. Right. So
Nellie Harden:that's where, you know, everyone has heard of good samaritan
Nellie Harden:Samaritan's Purse, all of those things. That's where that idea
Nellie Harden:and phrase comes from the Good Samaritan. Because it was the
Nellie Harden:Samaritan that saw the pain in this person. And it wasn't an us
Nellie Harden:them. It was a we. And so number one, all that to be said, number
Nellie Harden:one is don't sweep it under under the rug and create this us
Nellie Harden:and them mentality, right? These discussions need to happen. And
Nellie Harden:what are you going to do in those conversations? Well, that
Nellie Harden:number two is grow toward empathy, right? Have the
Nellie Harden:conversations about what these people are feeling, and needing
Nellie Harden:and experiencing and talk about times when you are and have your
Nellie Harden:child talk about times when they have been scared or afraid so
Nellie Harden:they can relate and connect to the story. And in these
Nellie Harden:conversations, you're not just talking about what's happening
Nellie Harden:over there. You're also talking about what's happening here,
Nellie Harden:right? How are they feeling? How is your child feeling through
Nellie Harden:all of this? Are they having any anxieties or anything like that?
Nellie Harden:And we'll get more to that in number five, but growing toward
Nellie Harden:empathy, is that number two, okay. Try to have them relate to
Nellie Harden:what is going on over there. Not in a scary way. Not in a like,
Nellie Harden:Oh, it's terrible. And you know, there. Hopefully, none of your
Nellie Harden:kids are listening car. But you know, hopefully, you know, this
Nellie Harden:is very scary. It's terrible. doom and gloom and terribleness.
Nellie Harden:Right, but in a way that's genuine and they can feel and
Nellie Harden:understand what's happening out there. Okay, so number one,
Nellie Harden:don't sweep it under the rug. Number two, grow toward empathy
Nellie Harden:here. Number three, don't obsess about this. Right? Don't obsess
Nellie Harden:to the point that news is on in the house. 24/7 and the world
Nellie Harden:seems like a catastrophe in the works all the time. Remember,
Nellie Harden:this is their perspective, building time in their life.
Nellie Harden:This zero to 18 especially in their their second half of
Nellie Harden:childhood. They are building their their telescope that
Nellie Harden:they're going to see life through for the rest of their
Nellie Harden:life. And if they are seeing, Oh, everything is terrible,
Nellie Harden:there's no good left in the world, there's only bad,
Nellie Harden:everything is suffering, right, that's the lens that they're
Nellie Harden:going to see the rest of their lives with. And we don't want
Nellie Harden:that. I know you don't want that for them. And so don't obsess to
Nellie Harden:the point that this is all you talk about. This is all the
Nellie Harden:conversations that you have with your spouse or other people that
Nellie Harden:they're overhearing or that you are being dragged into this
Nellie Harden:emotionally and mentally and it will lead to physically as well
Nellie Harden:because you're going to be so downtrodden in your in how
Nellie Harden:anxiety is taking over your body. Okay, so again, don't
Nellie Harden:sweep it under the rug, grow toward empathy. Don't obsess
Nellie Harden:about it. Number four, is find joy in the simple every day,
Nellie Harden:find joy, find joy in a hug, in a laugh in a flower in a walk
Nellie Harden:any funny movie, right? We just watched, which was really good.
Nellie Harden:The Adam project last night, so good, highly recommend. We all
Nellie Harden:really really enjoyed it. So yeah, just enjoy. Sometimes it
Nellie Harden:is okay, it is good to enjoy life. And if you haven't seen it
Nellie Harden:yet, you can just search it up on Google or whatever. There is
Nellie Harden:a little girl in Ukraine in a bomb shelter. That saying let it
Nellie Harden:go in Ukrainian. For her. The people that were there, right.
Nellie Harden:And so it was so beautiful to see this little girl, I maybe
Nellie Harden:she was six around there. And she just got up so brave to just
Nellie Harden:get up and sing in front of people, right? Let alone find
Nellie Harden:that joy, the smile that swept across her face. I mean, it just
Nellie Harden:like tattooed on my heart. It was so beautiful. And watching
Nellie Harden:that with my kids, right? It's not just about the catastrophes.
Nellie Harden:It's not just about the sadness, it is about people finding
Nellie Harden:strength that they never knew they had people finding joy in
Nellie Harden:places that were joyless before, right. And that is what we want
Nellie Harden:to be sharing with them. Right finding joy, they can find joy,
Nellie Harden:we can find joy. This world is a beautiful place filled with
Nellie Harden:beautiful people. And yes, some of them. Some of some people
Nellie Harden:hurt people. But most people are beautiful and bring joy to the
Nellie Harden:world. And let's focus on those. Right? Let's focus on those
Nellie Harden:let's focus on Spring is coming in my neck of the woods anyway,
Nellie Harden:flowers are coming out. We have the spring showers that are
Nellie Harden:starting right dancing in the rain, being totally goofy, and
Nellie Harden:freeing that spirit and finding that joy in the simple every
Nellie Harden:day. It doesn't have to be finding joy because I'm taking
Nellie Harden:like we're covering it up because I'm taking you to a
Nellie Harden:movie today. And then we're gonna go out to dinner and then
Nellie Harden:we're going to go to an arcade and then we're going to go to
Nellie Harden:Disney. And then we're going to do you don't have to cover it
Nellie Harden:with this shroud of really happy, like Joy making
Nellie Harden:machinery. There's joy out there, just step out, step out
Nellie Harden:of your door. Just look around your home, right? I can sit here
Nellie Harden:right now and look around and I see a sign for the, like the
Nellie Harden:emblem of our homeschool, right, we've had so much joy in our
Nellie Harden:homeschool over the last seven years. I have a sign over here
Nellie Harden:that one of my daughters made she is she somehow was born. She
Nellie Harden:was born in 2007. But it's somehow also a product of the
Nellie Harden:80s. She's just picked it up from us. And she loves
Nellie Harden:everything at ease. And she made a sign for us in our office that
Nellie Harden:says Brian and Nellie to American kids just doing the
Nellie Harden:best they can. And I don't know a more truer sign than that. But
Nellie Harden:that brings me so much joy and it hangs right here in our
Nellie Harden:office, right? There's joy everywhere and help bring that
Nellie Harden:alive, right don't get stuck down in in thinking about all of
Nellie Harden:the negative that's happening in the world bring the joy. And
Nellie Harden:number five is the conversations you're going to have with them
Nellie Harden:about them. Okay, and about you to be vulnerable here because if
Nellie Harden:you open up it gives them it unlocks their jail doors in
Nellie Harden:order for them to open up to So ask them what they're feeling
Nellie Harden:hearing and talking about and listening to in school and then
Nellie Harden:listen to their answers. Answer their questions. Listen again,
Nellie Harden:right this is gonna be there's that whole we were given two
Nellie Harden:ears and one mouth for a reason. We need to listen more than we
Nellie Harden:speak right? As I say as I'm talking to a mic on a podcast
Nellie Harden:but there you Go. But I listened to people all week. So it's
Nellie Harden:okay. Um, so yes, just have the conversations with them about
Nellie Harden:them. What are you feeling? So what do you think about what's
Nellie Harden:going on in the world right now? Has it affected you at all? Are
Nellie Harden:you just kind of away from it? So you don't think about it? Or
Nellie Harden:how do you think, um, you know, does it give you any anxiety
Nellie Harden:about that? Or are you sad at all? Do you have any fear about
Nellie Harden:the future? Or are you good, right, just trying to open it
Nellie Harden:up, open up and let them dive in, open up again, let them dive
Nellie Harden:in, right. And we want to open up these doorways of
Nellie Harden:communication, because if they're hearing a bunch of stuff
Nellie Harden:at school, or in their text chains or word, wherever they're
Nellie Harden:getting it from, you want the ultimate conversation to be with
Nellie Harden:you. Right, the ultimate conversation needs to come to
Nellie Harden:you. So you can give some grounding to what it is. So to
Nellie Harden:repeat those five, number one, don't sweep it under the rug
Nellie Harden:number two, grow toward empathy. Number three, do not obsess
Nellie Harden:about it. Number four, find joy in the simple every day. And
Nellie Harden:number five, talk to them about them and what they're feeling.
Nellie Harden:Alright, having taught. So I've taught, let's see national world
Nellie Harden:cultural and scientific history over the last seven years and
Nellie Harden:two words really come to mind about this messy humanity that
Nellie Harden:we are in messy, beautiful humanity that we are in. And
Nellie Harden:that is that humans can be so destructive, but they can also
Nellie Harden:be so resilient and beautiful, right? So destructive, and
Nellie Harden:resilient are the two sides that I keep seeing, and it just goes
Nellie Harden:back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth. And
Nellie Harden:as the architect of the beginning of your child's life,
Nellie Harden:you have the power and responsibility to navigate how
Nellie Harden:the outside world is absorbed and deciphered in your child.
Nellie Harden:And we can only do that if we have these lines of trust and
Nellie Harden:truths that are that are connected to them. And we
Nellie Harden:understand how to communicate with them how they take in
Nellie Harden:information, and what they can, how they process and effectively
Nellie Harden:deliver information as well. Right? We have to get to know
Nellie Harden:our kids have that trust and truth. And then we can help them
Nellie Harden:absorb and decipher what's going on in the world. Okay, you guys.
Nellie Harden:I hope that this has been a help to you. You know what? It is
Nellie Harden:hard. It is hard. Absolutely. There's no doubt but follow
Nellie Harden:these five steps. And we're going to be all right, we're
Nellie Harden:going to be alright. Okay. Next week, you guys will be back with
Nellie Harden:another episode. And remember, just keep teaching, keep
Nellie Harden:laughing keep loving. And above all, remember to keep showing up
Nellie Harden:with intention within the 6570 parenthood childhood experience.
Nellie Harden:Because they need you. All right, I'll talk to you soon,
Nellie Harden:guys. Thank you so much for listening today. And I hope
Nellie Harden:you're able to take something from our discussion that you can
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