Make Your Vision To Help Others A Reality With Wes Robins

1 00:00:12,990 --> 00:00:14,880 Dr. Arcella Trimble: All right, welcome. I'm Dr. Arcella 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,490 Trimble. And I want to thank you for coming to another episode of 3 00:00:20,490 --> 00:00:25,740 six figure therapist, I am so excited today. I have we come on 4 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:31,410 with. We have Wes on here, and he is a practitioner in the 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,910 Georgia area, and will tell you all about his bio stuff. But I'm 6 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:38,520 gonna get him to tell you a little bit about himself. But 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,990 I'm so excited, I met him, oh, gosh, it hasn't been spin. That 8 00:00:42,990 --> 00:00:46,410 hasn't been a year even maybe I don't know. It's like about a 9 00:00:46,410 --> 00:00:51,240 year ago or so. And one of our trainees and I had heard about 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,790 him prior to the training, though, from Eric, that works 11 00:00:53,790 --> 00:00:56,640 with us. And he told me about the wonderful work that he's 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,390 doing. And I thought that he would be a perfect example of 13 00:01:00,390 --> 00:01:06,510 someone that has doing something to help in a bigger way and in a 14 00:01:06,510 --> 00:01:09,570 non traditional way. And so I thought he would be somebody 15 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:14,370 great to talk to. So first, I just want you to just kind of 16 00:01:14,370 --> 00:01:17,220 briefly introduce yourself to everyone. 17 00:01:17,810 --> 00:01:21,021 Weston Robins: Dr. Trimble, I want to start and I want to say 18 00:01:21,091 --> 00:01:24,931 I'm always, anytime I get a platform to speak, I'm very 19 00:01:25,001 --> 00:01:28,841 humbled. But I'm very grateful to be on your podcast in 20 00:01:28,911 --> 00:01:33,100 particular. And the same goes everything you just gave intro 21 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:37,638 for me. I had heard about you in the field and the work that you 22 00:01:37,708 --> 00:01:42,176 had done, Eric spoke very highly of that. And then you were able 23 00:01:42,246 --> 00:01:46,226 to provide a very extensive training on the certification 24 00:01:46,295 --> 00:01:50,694 for being a clinical supervisor, to other clinicians in pursuit 25 00:01:50,764 --> 00:01:54,953 of licensure. So I'm grateful to be here with you today. I'm 26 00:01:55,023 --> 00:01:59,282 excited as well. I love being on your podcast. And yes, quick 27 00:01:59,351 --> 00:02:03,052 intro. So I'm a licensed professional counselor. I am 28 00:02:03,122 --> 00:02:07,171 completing my PhD from the University of West Georgia. And 29 00:02:07,241 --> 00:02:11,290 that's been in the works for quite some time, but I should 30 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,759 graduate this year and complete that and that's a great program 31 00:02:15,828 --> 00:02:19,878 psychology. But emphasis in consciousness and society with 32 00:02:19,948 --> 00:02:23,648 three different tracks, humanistic transpersonal, and 33 00:02:23,718 --> 00:02:27,767 critical psychologies. Very growth oriented and expansive. 34 00:02:27,837 --> 00:02:31,747 And yeah, I'm just grateful to be here. And can I have a 35 00:02:31,817 --> 00:02:36,006 tendency to be very long winded? Okay. My summary skills are 36 00:02:36,076 --> 00:02:40,404 awful. So I unless you want me to start with where I was born, 37 00:02:40,474 --> 00:02:42,290 you better go politically. 38 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:44,990 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Everything I got you, I got you. I got some 39 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:48,770 questions. Okay. Now, first, one of the things that, you know, we 40 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:51,470 talked about is being as professional, you're gifted, 41 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:54,680 like I always look at what we do as a gift. So I always want to 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,620 know from everybody, do you first believe that it's a gift 43 00:02:57,620 --> 00:03:01,190 when you do and helping people? And if so, when did you first 44 00:03:01,190 --> 00:03:04,370 start to realize, oh, I want to help people for a living? 45 00:03:04,730 --> 00:03:07,940 Weston Robins: Absolutely. Yeah, I think so. My my personal 46 00:03:07,940 --> 00:03:13,400 belief system is that every human soul has a unique gift or 47 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,260 talent, or ability. And I think our journey on this earth is to 48 00:03:18,260 --> 00:03:22,430 kind of learn about yourself, find what you align with and 49 00:03:22,430 --> 00:03:25,670 what makes your heart sing and feed your soul and devote your 50 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:29,750 life to that. And so I'm fortunate my Mom has her 51 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:33,680 master's in behavioral analysis from Drake University. My 52 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,600 grandmother, her mom, who I call Nana has her Edd and psychology 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,150 was the it taught at Charleston Southern University for quite 54 00:03:44,150 --> 00:03:48,620 some time in psychology. And so I come from this lineage of 55 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:54,050 strong women on on this maternal side, that were social workers, 56 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:01,970 and psychologist, and even going back further, my Nana's mom. Her 57 00:04:01,970 --> 00:04:06,500 mom came from so my great great grandmother came from Naples, 58 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:13,070 Italy. And from what I can tell she was a nurse in the earliest 59 00:04:13,070 --> 00:04:16,670 days and did social work before it was even a field and kind of 60 00:04:16,670 --> 00:04:19,700 become but with a helping practitioner, a healing 61 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:23,000 community member, somebody that was devoted to helping others. 62 00:04:23,450 --> 00:04:28,100 And so I think that's in my bloodline. And as a young boy 63 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:32,960 growing up, I was fascinated and got that fascination, that 64 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,260 curiosity about the human condition and human behavior 65 00:04:36,620 --> 00:04:40,430 from my mom from my grandmother. And so there's it was this 66 00:04:40,430 --> 00:04:44,000 beautiful expanse of space. I think for a while I was 67 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,250 rebellious and kind of fought against it. So 17 to 20 was 68 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:52,130 like, Nah, I'm not going to do psychology. I'm not even gonna 69 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:54,290 go that route. I'm gonna do something different music was 70 00:04:54,290 --> 00:04:58,340 always my love and my passion, but then it just pulled me back 71 00:04:58,340 --> 00:05:01,880 to it. So when I was in college, College. I did my bachelor's at 72 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,570 Georgia State, my master's in community counseling at Argosy. 73 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:08,540 Started the Ph. D. Program at the University of West Georgia. 74 00:05:08,540 --> 00:05:12,110 And I'm still just it's it feeds my soul in every way, shape or 75 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:19,460 form, whether it be academic study and theory, or practice 76 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:26,360 and direct clinical work. And I feel I wouldn't say that I feel 77 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,790 like I'm a healer. I feel like I've learned how to hold sacred 78 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:36,560 space for others, to see themselves in ways that maybe 79 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,160 they couldn't without that space. And I feel like this is a 80 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,150 gift, this practice and every time I sit with a client sit 81 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:47,990 with a family, it's an honor and a privilege to be able to walk 82 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:51,500 beside them on their journeys, they do depth work and work on 83 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,310 their own healing. 84 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, see, and the one thing I love about 85 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,550 this is, you know, some of these answers, I don't even know until 86 00:05:58,550 --> 00:06:01,070 I hear you all say them. So just to think that you came from a 87 00:06:01,070 --> 00:06:04,310 long line of like you said, helpers, and healers, and to 88 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:07,340 carry that on and to carry it on and even a different level. 89 00:06:07,340 --> 00:06:09,830 Like, it sounds like your great great grandmother carried it on 90 00:06:10,340 --> 00:06:13,310 a different level than your mother, your grandma. And now 91 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:16,490 you're doing it at another level. So that is just, that's 92 00:06:16,490 --> 00:06:20,390 just awesome to see. And witness. Yeah, that's thank you 93 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:25,910 for sharing. All right. So then when you started, so you're in 94 00:06:25,910 --> 00:06:29,810 the profession. Now, initially, when you started working, did 95 00:06:29,810 --> 00:06:33,200 you where did you start working at? Like, what, like, where did 96 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,550 you work at first? 97 00:06:34,670 --> 00:06:39,800 Weston Robins: Yeah, so I was, gosh, man, rewind. I think I was 98 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:45,050 25. And I was making eight bucks an hour working at a CV shop. I 99 00:06:45,050 --> 00:06:47,480 loved music. I worked at all these different music stores, I 100 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,460 worked at Peachtree battle at a shop called spin street music 101 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:55,700 when I was younger, I worked at Camelot music. But then fast 102 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,950 forward and I was at a CD warehouse. I was the manager. I 103 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:00,230 was making eight bucks an hour I was 25 years old. And I was 104 00:07:00,230 --> 00:07:05,090 like, What am I going to do? I just finished my bachelor's in 105 00:07:05,090 --> 00:07:08,900 Psych. Meet me at that time music was starting to get 106 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,740 downloaded CD shops were closing, I was like, Oh, I got 107 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:16,070 to pick a profession and really kind of pour my energy. So I was 108 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:19,850 either gonna go to law school, or because a lot of my buddies 109 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:21,500 were going there. And I was like, maybe I'll start studying 110 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:24,860 for the LSAT and do that. And then I had this epiphany. I was 111 00:07:24,860 --> 00:07:27,860 like, you know, I think I'd like studying that. I don't know if I 112 00:07:27,860 --> 00:07:33,380 like to practice that. And so I went to an orientation for a 113 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:36,290 Master's in Counseling, and they gave me a book by John Kotler 114 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:40,040 called on being a therapist. And they said, Read this. And if 115 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,250 you're still intrigued, this is the program for you. And I read 116 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:46,580 it in two days. And I was like, Man, this is it. It's been my 117 00:07:46,580 --> 00:07:49,580 calling. So I, I did my Master's in Counseling and right at the 118 00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:52,160 tail end as I was doing my internship at peach furred 119 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,340 hospital, working with their intensive outpatient program 120 00:07:55,340 --> 00:07:59,960 next step with young adolescents that I loved and was amazing. 121 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,840 But the hospital psychiatric setting was challenging for 122 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:09,590 numerous reasons. I found a program called vive vive Family 123 00:08:09,590 --> 00:08:12,470 Support Program, and they had an Atlanta location. And they 124 00:08:12,470 --> 00:08:15,260 worked with young adolescents coming out of wilderness 125 00:08:15,260 --> 00:08:20,870 therapy, residential treatment centers, therapeutic boarding 126 00:08:20,870 --> 00:08:24,200 schools, and they were transitioning back home. Now it 127 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,650 was satellite work. So there was no brick and mortar office, you 128 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:33,170 got to come pick up the young person and go do adventurous 129 00:08:33,470 --> 00:08:38,210 experiential therapy. So that was my first gig. And I got to 130 00:08:38,210 --> 00:08:41,630 go mountain biking, hiking, rock climbing, I went out to eat more 131 00:08:41,630 --> 00:08:45,260 times than I could name I went bowling, I went to movies, but 132 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:50,570 anything to build rapport and trust and create a sacred space 133 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:55,370 for these young people as young as 10, as old as 25. And that's 134 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:59,960 what I did for six years, became a therapeutic mentor, became a 135 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:03,680 parent coach started to work with the family systems, and 136 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:07,580 then worked my way up to become the clinical team leader for all 137 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:13,130 of the Atlanta region, and hired and built a team for Atlanta. 138 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:21,920 And then in 2014, got accepted into the Ph. D. program. And Dr. 139 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,790 Tremble, I thought I could do both. I was like, I was like, 140 00:09:25,790 --> 00:09:30,710 I'm making 65k. You're, it's awesome. It's stable, clinical 141 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:35,510 team lead. Less than but I'm about to start the PhD. Let me 142 00:09:35,510 --> 00:09:39,230 just do both. And my clinical director even at the time we 143 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:43,580 left, she was like, okay, you know, go for it. That first 144 00:09:43,580 --> 00:09:46,640 Thanksgiving to that first semester. I was in my own 145 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,990 therapy. I went down I had a therapy session with a beautiful 146 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:56,120 psychologist who did a profound work with and I just came to a 147 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,630 realization there's no way I can't, something's gotta go 148 00:09:59,630 --> 00:10:04,280 Okay, so I had this moment where I was like, I have to finish 149 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:11,450 this PhD. I, I had two little daughters at the time, actually 150 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:14,780 one little daughter and another on the way. And I was like, you 151 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:17,150 know, being a father and being a husband, that's my number one 152 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:20,600 that's not going anywhere at the PhD and go anywhere. I think I 153 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,440 have to quit this gig that I love. And I'm going to go into 154 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,250 private practice. So I went into private practice made the leap 155 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:30,830 called my clinical supervisor, Willow, I cried, I was like, 156 00:10:30,830 --> 00:10:33,650 Well, I'm so sorry. I love you guys. I gotta go do this. She 157 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:37,220 was super supportive. And in my first year, in private practice 158 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:41,150 working two days a week, I double my salary. Wow. And 159 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:44,240 Dr. Arcella Trimble: I'll be honest, because you got a lot of 160 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,310 years. So let me Okay, so and I really want people to hear this. 161 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,100 Because this is one of the things that you know, we talk 162 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:55,490 about taking risk and chances and, and like you said, you 163 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:57,860 could have kept going the way you were going, but you would 164 00:10:57,860 --> 00:11:00,800 have been burned out you you saw it didn't even take that long to 165 00:11:00,830 --> 00:11:03,230 figure out. Okay, I can't juggle all this. And of course, I'm 166 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:07,460 sure you had some fear of like you said, I'm a new dad, and you 167 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:09,800 know, and it's like, Okay, I gotta take care of these people. 168 00:11:09,950 --> 00:11:13,010 But now, I guess what I'm wondering is how did you go from 169 00:11:13,010 --> 00:11:15,920 cuz, as a person who has private practice? Of course, we know, 170 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,640 that's a lot of work, too. So how did you go from deciding not 171 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,150 to work for someone to go into work for yourself that you 172 00:11:23,150 --> 00:11:25,040 thought that that would make a difference? Like? 173 00:11:25,220 --> 00:11:28,550 Weston Robins: Yeah, absolutely. And there was several variables, 174 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:35,750 but I think the main answer is I had mentors, guides. And these 175 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:40,490 were my supervisors that were outside of the organization that 176 00:11:40,490 --> 00:11:44,930 I was working for. So what I thought was an initial barrier 177 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,200 when I was in pursuit of my licensure was you got to get a 178 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,380 supervisor you can do your first year with somebody that's not an 179 00:11:51,380 --> 00:11:55,280 LPC. The second two years with LPC. I was like, Oh, what a pain 180 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 in the butt man. It's going to be so challenging. I wish I 181 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,100 could just do it within the organization I'm working for, 182 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,360 but their supervisors were in different states. So she was in 183 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,910 California, and then there was one in Colorado and Georgia. 184 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:10,610 professional counselors were like, nope, your supervisor just 185 00:12:10,610 --> 00:12:13,160 got to be here in Georgia. So I found the clinical 186 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,030 neuropsychologist, Dr. Damon Loxton. I did my first year of 187 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:20,600 supervision with him. And the next two years of supervision, I 188 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,470 didn't group supervision with Dr. David McLeod, and Phil 189 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:30,200 Foster. And those were profound spaces of growth for me, as I 190 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:37,190 watched these three prominent clinicians run and operate their 191 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:41,510 own private practice. And Dr. Tremble, what was really 192 00:12:41,510 --> 00:12:48,770 impressive to me was their love for the craft. And so they were 193 00:12:48,770 --> 00:12:52,880 successful. They had self sustaining private practices, 194 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,770 but they loved what they did, that absolute ly brought ethical 195 00:12:57,770 --> 00:13:01,490 integrity to everything that they did. And they empowered me 196 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,950 to believe that I could do the same. And so with that private 197 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:12,530 practice leap, I had a structure to follow. And I could reach to 198 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:16,010 these mentors. And they really kind of guided me in building 199 00:13:16,010 --> 00:13:19,070 the documentation, I needed my informed consent, the correct 200 00:13:19,070 --> 00:13:24,530 paperwork and getting insurance in every in creating my LLC, and 201 00:13:24,530 --> 00:13:30,590 making that an S Corp in finding a correct CPA and an accountant 202 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:35,150 and a bookkeeper. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I, I would 203 00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:38,030 cuss but I don't want to do that on your podcast. I did not do 204 00:13:38,030 --> 00:13:42,440 it. Well, I messed it up. Okay, I messed up a lot. And I made a 205 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:48,380 lot of mistakes. But I learned so much along the way. And it 206 00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:53,420 was the risk that was directly correlated to my growth. And so 207 00:13:53,750 --> 00:14:01,370 I continued to learn. And I all but I always stayed focused on 208 00:14:01,550 --> 00:14:06,440 what was feeding my soul. So I needed to make a living, and I 209 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,300 needed to, excuse me be able to be compensated for my expertise 210 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:14,060 and the time and the career I was building. But that was never 211 00:14:14,060 --> 00:14:17,300 the focal point. For me, the focal point for me was, I want 212 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:21,200 to do right by my clients, I want to do incredible work. And 213 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:26,390 that I believe my focus on that is what brought wealth and 214 00:14:26,390 --> 00:14:31,010 abundance to my practice and stability in so many ways was 215 00:14:31,010 --> 00:14:34,130 just operating from an ethical standpoint and doing what was in 216 00:14:34,130 --> 00:14:36,170 the greatest good in the best interest of the clients and the 217 00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:37,220 families I served. 218 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:41,150 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, yeah. And I appreciate that. Because 219 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:43,940 the end the mentorship, of course, is very important, like 220 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:46,580 you said, and even though you might have it as you said, you 221 00:14:46,580 --> 00:14:49,160 still might make mistakes or still have things that because 222 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,440 you still have to tweak it for what you're doing and what you 223 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,700 understand and things like that, but to have someone to see it 224 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:58,340 before and that's what we're trying to do now. Right? Like 225 00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:00,710 I'm trying to do it for the next year. Right So you're doing it 226 00:15:00,710 --> 00:15:04,550 for the next generation too. And so hopefully, as people hear 227 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:08,270 this, and they see us move, and they see other people move, they 228 00:15:08,270 --> 00:15:12,740 will know that it's possible. Number one. And also, I think 229 00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:15,590 something like, this just helps more people and you're gonna 230 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,590 get, I'm gonna get you to tell us what you what you build, but 231 00:15:18,590 --> 00:15:21,380 I don't think people really are going to understand. And I wish 232 00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:26,330 I had like a video, we might attach a video plays to this so 233 00:15:26,330 --> 00:15:29,270 that people can really see what you develop. Because, you know, 234 00:15:29,270 --> 00:15:30,860 most people do in private practice, they have a little 235 00:15:30,890 --> 00:15:34,010 office and you go into them, so, okay, and I'm just gonna go 236 00:15:34,010 --> 00:15:36,770 ahead and get you to tell it tell them. And I don't know if 237 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:39,230 you initially started this way. So kind of tell us how you did. 238 00:15:39,230 --> 00:15:43,550 So we decide we're making about 65 grand, we decided, Hey, 239 00:15:43,850 --> 00:15:46,730 that's not gonna cut it. I can just go I can do this. Let me go 240 00:15:46,730 --> 00:15:50,240 to private practice. So what is your what was your vision when 241 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,110 you did that? Yeah. 242 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:54,546 Weston Robins: So So I make that leap. I put the focus on the 243 00:15:54,616 --> 00:15:58,924 PhD. I'm doing two days a week private practice. My wife and I 244 00:15:58,993 --> 00:16:02,815 have our second daughter. Our first daughter has pretty 245 00:16:02,885 --> 00:16:06,707 intense special needs and different challenges, autism, 246 00:16:06,776 --> 00:16:10,946 sensory issues. She's beautiful and Angel, but it required a 247 00:16:11,015 --> 00:16:15,254 lot. We have our second daughter and my wife was working at a 248 00:16:15,324 --> 00:16:19,423 time and I said, Listen, I'm going to take on a couple more 249 00:16:19,493 --> 00:16:23,593 days of private practice, and let you be able to be at home 250 00:16:23,662 --> 00:16:27,832 with the girls so you can give them what they need. And that 251 00:16:27,901 --> 00:16:32,210 was beautiful for me to be able to do that. Because when I was 252 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:36,032 making eight bucks an hour at the CD Shop, she was the 253 00:16:36,101 --> 00:16:40,479 breadwinner, and she taking care of me for so many years. So to 254 00:16:40,548 --> 00:16:44,579 be able to give that back was awesome. So 2014 to 2019. My 255 00:16:44,648 --> 00:16:49,026 private practice just grows. I go from two days a week to three 256 00:16:49,096 --> 00:16:53,126 days a week to four days a week, I continue to pour all my 257 00:16:53,196 --> 00:16:57,365 revenue back into my practice. So I moved to three different 258 00:16:57,435 --> 00:17:01,326 private practice offices. My third office is 1500 square 259 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:05,426 feet, I shove a pool table in there. I got a little bit of 260 00:17:05,495 --> 00:17:09,456 workout stuff. I got guitars and art all over the walls i 261 00:17:09,526 --> 00:17:13,348 bringing in Nintendo Switch a flat screen. I'm doing an 262 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:17,448 experiential work with teens, adolescents, families, and I 263 00:17:17,517 --> 00:17:21,687 love it and it's feeding my soul. And it's amazing. What Dr. 264 00:17:21,756 --> 00:17:26,134 Trimble I start to there's this pattern that I'm seeing. And so 265 00:17:26,203 --> 00:17:29,817 I'm, I have this thriving private practice, I have a 266 00:17:29,886 --> 00:17:33,917 waitlist, I'm getting referrals continually. But the young 267 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:38,156 people that are showing up to work with me as young as 10 is 268 00:17:38,225 --> 00:17:41,839 oldest 25 have been to wilderness therapy, different 269 00:17:41,908 --> 00:17:45,383 IOP and PHP programs, psychiatric facilities, self 270 00:17:45,452 --> 00:17:49,830 harm, substance abuse, anxiety, depression, a multitude of mood 271 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:53,652 disorders and different challenges. And I'm watching a 272 00:17:53,721 --> 00:17:57,196 repetitive cycle. And these families have utilized 273 00:17:57,265 --> 00:18:01,087 Educational Consultants, wilderness programs, all these 274 00:18:01,157 --> 00:18:05,257 different facilities. And young people have done incredible 275 00:18:05,326 --> 00:18:09,774 growth worked there. But they're still challenged and struggling 276 00:18:09,843 --> 00:18:14,152 and ending up back in my office. So I start to ask these young 277 00:18:14,221 --> 00:18:18,251 people that I have incredible relationship with. I'm like, 278 00:18:18,321 --> 00:18:22,560 Look, what worked, what didn't, if you could go anywhere, and 279 00:18:22,629 --> 00:18:26,729 you could do healing work the way that you wanted to do it, 280 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:30,690 the way that like, let's envision a place together, what 281 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,790 does that look like? And we started to collectively and CO 282 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:39,168 collaboratively dream up eternal strength, which is the center 283 00:18:39,237 --> 00:18:43,615 that I run now that we just hit our two year anniversary. And I 284 00:18:43,685 --> 00:18:47,715 started to listen to them. What would be the coolest stuff 285 00:18:47,785 --> 00:18:51,885 there. They were like, man, if we could have a full gym, if 286 00:18:51,954 --> 00:18:56,402 there was a skate ramp, if there was an art studio, if there was 287 00:18:56,471 --> 00:19:00,571 a full music recording studio, if there could be expressive 288 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,671 work. And I started to just dream it and envision it in my 289 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:09,049 head and I would sketch it out and draw it with them. And we'd 290 00:19:09,118 --> 00:19:12,801 use sessions like that sometimes. And so fast forward 291 00:19:12,871 --> 00:19:16,971 to 2019. I reconnect with a friend of mine who we were best 292 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,140 friends in middle school. We hadn't talked in 24 years. got 293 00:19:21,209 --> 00:19:25,518 into a fight when we were 14. Yeah, I was like I had a guitar. 294 00:19:25,587 --> 00:19:29,409 I was like, Don't touch my guitar. Don't look at it. He 295 00:19:29,479 --> 00:19:33,509 touched it. We had words. And then we stopped talking. Oh, 296 00:19:33,579 --> 00:19:37,887 wow. And he for years, he was living in Hawaii. I found him on 297 00:19:37,957 --> 00:19:42,265 Instagram. We started to talk and we connected really quickly. 298 00:19:42,334 --> 00:19:46,434 And it was very synchronistic and I shared my vision. And I 299 00:19:46,504 --> 00:19:50,395 said I want to build the blend between a Community Youth 300 00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:54,773 Center, a YMCA Boys and Girls Club. But I wanted to have month 301 00:19:54,843 --> 00:19:58,734 to month top tier holistic customizable therapeutic care 302 00:19:58,804 --> 00:20:02,487 for mental health and for families with whatever they 303 00:20:02,556 --> 00:20:06,795 need. And so it was really out of desperation because so many 304 00:20:06,864 --> 00:20:11,242 families were saying can you do more can my son or daughter see 305 00:20:11,312 --> 00:20:15,273 you more than once a week? Do you have any good Oops that 306 00:20:15,342 --> 00:20:19,581 you're doing. So I was listening to them. And then he my good 307 00:20:19,651 --> 00:20:23,751 friend Zack moved back from Hawaii in January 2020. I said, 308 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:28,267 it'll take us about a year and a half to build the business plan 309 00:20:28,337 --> 00:20:32,576 to do everything. Dr. Trimble, we found the building. My wife 310 00:20:32,645 --> 00:20:36,676 found it at 500 square foot building in Alpharetta. I went 311 00:20:36,745 --> 00:20:41,054 and I looked at it in February, we went ahead and took another 312 00:20:41,123 --> 00:20:45,084 radical risk, got the keys, secured the building, got the 313 00:20:45,153 --> 00:20:49,184 keys in March 2020. And we opened our doors April 13 2020. 314 00:20:49,253 --> 00:20:53,631 Right when COVID hit the whole world shut down. But I still had 315 00:20:53,701 --> 00:20:58,148 families that were saying, Look, we'll do whatever, we'll wear a 316 00:20:58,218 --> 00:21:02,665 mask, you have an outdoor space, we'll do six feet apart. So all 317 00:21:02,734 --> 00:21:06,765 through COVID We just kept trucking along being as safe as 318 00:21:06,834 --> 00:21:11,212 we could serve and families as we could. And it's been ambiance 319 00:21:11,282 --> 00:21:15,312 with Dr. Trimble. I mean, this has been the most expansive 320 00:21:15,382 --> 00:21:19,898 growth oriented trying two years of my entire life. I was working 321 00:21:19,968 --> 00:21:24,346 100 hour work weeks, the first six months pouring my everything 322 00:21:24,415 --> 00:21:28,793 into it. I had like 11 grand in an IRA I wiped it completely up 323 00:21:28,863 --> 00:21:33,102 poured into the business. I got a couple PPP loans and II IDL 324 00:21:33,171 --> 00:21:36,993 loan that all came from my private practice, not from a 325 00:21:37,063 --> 00:21:40,954 terminal strength because we incorporated too late to be 326 00:21:41,023 --> 00:21:44,706 eligible for those 11 days too late to be precise, is 327 00:21:44,776 --> 00:21:48,945 February's. Anyways, everything I had I poured in. And I was 328 00:21:49,015 --> 00:21:53,323 like all chips on the table. All in this is my dream. I'm it's 329 00:21:53,393 --> 00:21:57,632 not a matter of whether it's going to work, I'm going to make 330 00:21:57,701 --> 00:22:02,009 it work. And so I I want to be raw and honest, was saying that 331 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:06,179 I thought as private practice that I understood business, I 332 00:22:06,248 --> 00:22:10,626 did not know I had Dr. Trimble, I had no clue. Now I had little 333 00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:14,657 bits and pieces, I could look at a p&l, I understood some 334 00:22:14,726 --> 00:22:18,548 overhead I could watch money in money out. It's a whole 335 00:22:18,618 --> 00:22:22,717 different ballgame, when I'm looking at an 8500 square foot 336 00:22:22,787 --> 00:22:26,539 facility serving 200 Plus families having a team of 11 337 00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:30,292 three clinicians, five therapeutic mentors, running a 338 00:22:30,361 --> 00:22:34,322 staff building a team, but again, I let my heart lead. We 339 00:22:34,392 --> 00:22:38,561 built this incredible culture. And then fast forward to last 340 00:22:38,631 --> 00:22:42,731 summer, we're about you know, a year and a half in. And Dr. 341 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,692 Trimble I was, it was the most stressful time of my life 342 00:22:46,761 --> 00:22:50,514 because I was servicing families. We never turned away 343 00:22:50,583 --> 00:22:54,683 one family, there was several families that couldn't afford 344 00:22:54,752 --> 00:22:59,200 our services. And I was sliding scale scholarship and doing ever 345 00:22:59,269 --> 00:23:03,578 had to be done. But I put the company in the organization into 346 00:23:03,647 --> 00:23:08,025 quite a bit of debt. And I hit a wall where I was like, I don't 347 00:23:08,094 --> 00:23:12,333 know, if I'm gonna be able to dig out of this, or how to even 348 00:23:12,403 --> 00:23:16,572 dig out of this. And a beautiful synchronistic divine moment 349 00:23:16,642 --> 00:23:20,881 happened where I had my head in my hands, I was praying about 350 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:25,398 it. And something told me which I believe is God kind of guiding 351 00:23:25,467 --> 00:23:29,567 me to reach out to my network. And so there was a couple of 352 00:23:29,636 --> 00:23:34,153 young guys who I had worked with and provided therapy to them for 353 00:23:34,223 --> 00:23:38,045 years. And their dads were incredibly savvy, successful 354 00:23:38,114 --> 00:23:42,284 business entrepreneurs. And I asked to have coffee with each 355 00:23:42,353 --> 00:23:46,870 one of them. And I wore my heart on my sleeve. And I said, here's 356 00:23:46,939 --> 00:23:51,039 everything I've done. Here's what I'm trying to do. Can you 357 00:23:51,109 --> 00:23:55,278 please give me some guidance, help support and knowledge and 358 00:23:55,348 --> 00:23:59,587 Dr. Trimble, both of them, put their arms around me, began to 359 00:23:59,656 --> 00:24:03,895 work with me weekly meet with me. And I'm in a much different 360 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:07,786 position. So my wife and I then opened up a 501 C three 361 00:24:07,856 --> 00:24:12,095 nonprofit philanthropic leg of eternal strength. I started to 362 00:24:12,164 --> 00:24:16,681 be able to provide families that can't afford our services with a 363 00:24:16,751 --> 00:24:20,434 financial aid form, we can review and then we can get 364 00:24:20,503 --> 00:24:24,812 donations to be able to cover costs for them to be able to get 365 00:24:24,881 --> 00:24:28,981 services and access and these two gentlemen have now become 366 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:33,289 board members of the not. So it's been but but mentors again. 367 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,737 It's again, it was mentors and guides that I could go to and it 368 00:24:37,806 --> 00:24:42,184 wasn't in a book. And it wasn't watching a YouTube video. These 369 00:24:42,254 --> 00:24:46,492 were real life. I can ask you detailed questions. And now I'm 370 00:24:46,562 --> 00:24:50,523 very proud to say we hit our two year anniversary. We are 371 00:24:50,592 --> 00:24:54,970 thriving, moving in a positive direction. And now I feel like I 372 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,279 still won't claim that Um, you know, the people who are like, 373 00:24:59,348 --> 00:25:03,309 I'm a businessman. I'm a therapist, and I'm a really good 374 00:25:03,378 --> 00:25:07,617 therapist. Now look. But if you put a p&l in front of me, and 375 00:25:07,687 --> 00:25:11,856 you put a cash flow statement and a balance sheet, I look at 376 00:25:11,926 --> 00:25:15,956 it, I can understand it and my skills are growing, but I'm 377 00:25:16,026 --> 00:25:20,195 still learning so much. And so it's it's been beautiful. But 378 00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:24,295 it's all been a direct result of hard work, determination, 379 00:25:24,364 --> 00:25:27,770 consistency and mentorship and community support. 380 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,410 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, I mean, again, you said a lot, we 381 00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:33,290 could sit and talk for hours about each of those things that 382 00:25:33,290 --> 00:25:36,440 you said they're like, and one of the things I have a six 383 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,810 figure blueprint, and well is two of the things you say that I 384 00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:42,110 always say. First of all, we don't know how to be I call it 385 00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:46,160 be a become a leader, become a boss, right. And oftentimes, 386 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,070 like you said, you might have leadership skills. But when it 387 00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:51,500 actually comes to running something, especially as you 388 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,560 expand, like you said, to start to now have to be a boss with 389 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,400 employees, I have to manage this. And even the money part I 390 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,250 didn't many times I've given stuff away for free. And like 391 00:26:01,250 --> 00:26:04,130 you said, you know, I know we didn't go into it for the money. 392 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:06,290 But again, you still have to feed your daughters, you still 393 00:26:06,290 --> 00:26:08,510 have to help with your wife, you still got to help those people 394 00:26:08,510 --> 00:26:11,600 who work for you still have to have money, because they work 395 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720 for you. You see, and so then you do have to figure out how do 396 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,510 I manage all of that. So that balls piece is so important, and 397 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:19,340 we weren't taught that at all in school? 398 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:25,580 Weston Robins: Yep, and Dr. Tremble, Simon Sinek, are you he 399 00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:31,910 says it the absolute best in terms of money, monetary gain, 400 00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:36,560 and revenue. He says if the company is a vehicle, or a car, 401 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:41,750 and that's the analogy, then the money is the fuel. But money is 402 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:45,650 taking you to the destination? What is the mission? What is the 403 00:26:45,650 --> 00:26:48,650 purpose? What are you trying to accomplish? Where are you trying 404 00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:54,770 to go? But the goal of the company isn't fuel. It's to get 405 00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:58,580 somewhere it's to allow the vehicle to drive in a certain 406 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:01,910 direction. And I think when you begin to understand that you 407 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:05,000 recognize, like you said, all the intricate, intricate 408 00:27:05,030 --> 00:27:09,680 variables that come into play. And it is it's it's leadership. 409 00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:15,680 And it's a conscious leadership that can be done with empathy, 410 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:19,550 compassion, respect, but it's still leadership. And it's 411 00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:23,090 making very difficult decisions and needing to be very direct, 412 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,740 and needing to build a culture and build a team and make 413 00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:33,260 executive decisions. And a lot of people veer away from that, 414 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:36,860 because it creates an uncomfortable emotional state 415 00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:40,340 sometimes, but if you can step into it, you get to see yourself 416 00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:43,070 in so many new fashions, and you can grow more than you ever 417 00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:43,460 thought. 418 00:27:44,660 --> 00:27:46,010 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, and that's the thing because I'm 419 00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:48,650 still as I think about it, I'm still going I was, I was reading 420 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:52,550 Mary Kay, America is my person. So I was reading her 421 00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:55,610 autobiography this morning, again, just thinking about this 422 00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:58,370 one part, she said about this and that, and you know, going 423 00:27:58,370 --> 00:28:00,710 back and seeing, you know, cuz she built the business when she 424 00:28:00,710 --> 00:28:04,100 was older, too. And she was gonna build it with her husband, 425 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,500 and he ended up dying a month before Mary Kay was supposed to 426 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:10,460 actually start know that. Wow. And so she wasn't gonna do it. 427 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:13,130 And like, like you said earlier, she was like, Oh, my gosh, what 428 00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:15,710 am I got to do something? You know, I'm saying I can't not 429 00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:17,450 because I already have stuff ordered. I already have the 430 00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:20,210 people I already have. So like you were saying, I couldn't not 431 00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:23,210 do it. So I put everything I had into. And that's the other thing 432 00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:26,450 I just wanted to mention, is that sometimes people want to do 433 00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:30,260 something great without sacrifice. And you're gonna 434 00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:33,980 sacrifice money, you're gonna sacrifice time, you're gonna 435 00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:37,760 sacrifice, you know, sleep, you're gonna sacrifice. You 436 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,730 can't do anything. Great. And so you talked about various 437 00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:45,200 sacrifices that you made in order to do this be right, 438 00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:47,810 Weston Robins: Jimbo. People don't recognize the sacrifices 439 00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:52,550 the gift. Hmm. That's the pride. That's the that's the looking at 440 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:56,660 yourself in the mirror. And recognizing I did this, it's not 441 00:28:56,660 --> 00:29:00,860 what was obtained. It's who you had to become to obtain that. 442 00:29:01,070 --> 00:29:04,100 And people miss that. Like if this center got handed to me. 443 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:06,500 And my parents were multimillionaires. And they were 444 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:09,080 like, sure you want to 8500 square foot building? Sure you 445 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,470 want startup capital, here's $2 million dollars, all of a 446 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:16,400 sudden, you don't care about it as much. You know, it's like 447 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,240 what what are you willing to sacrifice? And how can you grow 448 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,990 to go build your dream. And then that's where I feel very 449 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:27,440 fortunate Dr. Dremel, because if this all ended tomorrow, I don't 450 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,280 regret anything. It's who I've become who I became as a leader, 451 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,680 my understanding of my skill set now around building a team 452 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,250 leadership, supervision, monetary and financial 453 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:43,670 management, none of that can be taken away. I still have all 454 00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:46,160 those skills that I built and was able to use 455 00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:48,830 Dr. Arcella Trimble: that's what I always think it's funny to 456 00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:52,130 West when people talk about the worst case scenario. You know, I 457 00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:54,350 always feel like like you said, even if we lose it all, you 458 00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:59,060 already know how you could do it again, you know what to do? Just 459 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,580 think about all those things. who'd been bankrupt 50 million 460 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:04,820 times? Or who have lost everything and start over? So I 461 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:07,850 just feel like, you know, as long as I feel like my mind, and 462 00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:10,550 I still have my physical health, I can do it again. 463 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:13,190 Weston Robins: Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. 464 00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:15,800 Dr. Arcella Trimble: So and the other thing you keep saying that 465 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,650 I still want to, I think it's still worth emphasizing is that 466 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,770 mentorship and not being afraid to ask people, that sort of 467 00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:24,200 thing, I'm telling people, first of all, you cannot do anything 468 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,460 great by yourself, nothing great by yourself, nothing. Nothing. 469 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:30,860 You couldn't make children by your system, you couldn't have a 470 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:34,130 center by yourself, you couldn't get the men, you cannot do 471 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,210 anything great by yourself. Right? And so for you to keep, 472 00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:40,730 like you said, putting pride aside or putting out even 473 00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:43,130 countable now to worry about all that I have, I want someone to 474 00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:45,950 ask and all you do is say No, right? That's all you can say, 475 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,130 you know, and then I'm gonna ask somebody else until I get what I 476 00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:52,430 need, right? And then, and then like you said, Give it back. So 477 00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:55,160 I'm sure just like, I asked you to come when people ask you, you 478 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,340 will give back just like it was given to you. And so that's that 479 00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:03,440 cycle there. So to keep asking, also, I think that that's a 480 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,970 testimony of what happens when you do ask, and what happened 481 00:31:07,970 --> 00:31:10,520 for you, and then to receive it, too. That's the other thing. I 482 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,520 think sometimes people ask what they don't want to receive what 483 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,550 they heard, you know, and so it sounds like you've received it 484 00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:17,270 as well, 485 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,420 Weston Robins: absolutely, and the willingness to learn along 486 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:23,540 the way, and you named it so beautifully, it's, it's 487 00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:28,190 community, it's recognizing that we are interlinked in a web of 488 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:33,230 relationality. And that it's that given that take and 489 00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:37,640 supporting one another. And then I truly believe if I can get out 490 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,560 of my own way, and I can let go of ego, and I can make godly 491 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,820 decisions where divine light is working through me. And it's and 492 00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:50,840 it's ethics and integrity. And at the core, it's trying to help 493 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:55,130 others than beautiful abundance can happen. I think dangerous 494 00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:58,850 things happen when you start to think I can do it on my own. 495 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:02,330 It's my ego, nobody else can do it, like I do it, it's like 496 00:32:02,330 --> 00:32:07,010 well, like to your point, you can only go so far that way. And 497 00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:11,120 it really is it's it's it's community and connection, that 498 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,260 is so beautiful. And so I mean, we wouldn't exist and what we're 499 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:17,420 doing right now without community, and that's what we 500 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:20,480 want to do is serve that community, to the best of our 501 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,730 ability and grow together. 502 00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,480 Dr. Arcella Trimble: So I know you said but I want to, I want 503 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,280 everybody to be clear what you built again, so So tell them 504 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,280 when you all came together. So tell them about the facility, we 505 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,190 know the size of it, but tell them what everything that's in 506 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:39,320 it. And again, who you serve. 507 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:42,830 Weston Robins: Awesome. So we do at a terminal strength, we call 508 00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:48,680 ourselves a center for radical youth work. Now when we say 509 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,340 radical youth work, when we're talking about we serve young 510 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:56,840 people, anywhere from the age of 10 to 25, we'll do younger will 511 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,400 do older, and we work with young people who are struggling with 512 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,210 anxiety, depression, suicidality, substance abuse, 513 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,340 but we really everything we do is very humanistic, and person 514 00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:15,830 centered, and relational. And so we view these young people, as 515 00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:19,640 beautiful souls that we want to help tune into their greatest 516 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,890 potential. Everything we do is month to month. And it's fully 517 00:33:24,890 --> 00:33:29,330 customizable in terms of engagement. So we have 518 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960 individual psychotherapy, individual therapeutic 519 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,330 mentoring, family systems work, parents support, and then a 520 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:42,800 tremendous amount of individualized group work. And 521 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,310 when I say individualized, I mean more. We have like creative 522 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:51,740 expression Lab, our art groups, our ceramic groups, our music 523 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:58,190 groups, we really try and do our therapy process groups, based on 524 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,210 the young people that show up here and connecting them with 525 00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:05,660 the right other young people and then building this sacred space 526 00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:10,430 together. So everything is that month to month care, we course 527 00:34:10,430 --> 00:34:13,880 correct every single month based on what the family needs. And 528 00:34:13,910 --> 00:34:18,020 all of those services are ala carte, so we can do as little 529 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:22,340 therapeutic support, or as much as the family needs, and there's 530 00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:27,560 no end date. So for a lot of young people, they can just show 531 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,620 up and maybe they've never had any therapeutic care. And they 532 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,780 can just start out and get the support they need and then we 533 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:34,940 can course correct or it could be young people who need on 534 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:40,790 Mersive outpatient care as much as a PHP or an IOP. And they're 535 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:43,520 coming back from a residential facility or coming out of a 536 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,270 psychiatric facility, and we can offer that level of support as 537 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:50,630 well. And then the community center piece has just been 538 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:57,230 beautiful because that's the piece that you know, we're doing 539 00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,380 these free events every single month community is built That's 540 00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:03,590 kind of the YMCA Boys and Girls Club Community Youth Center 541 00:35:03,590 --> 00:35:06,950 that's going on amongst all the mental health therapeutic 542 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:07,430 support. 543 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:10,070 Dr. Arcella Trimble: So wait now so you have the the that 544 00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:11,840 therapeutic side, but when you're saying community, are you 545 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,620 saying just anyone can come into the center, just anyone, even if 546 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:18,200 they're not getting therapeutic services, they just come for 547 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,000 free. So we just, 548 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:22,940 Weston Robins: yep. Last month, we did magic music rooms, and we 549 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:27,740 turned every space in the center into a different music theme. We 550 00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:31,160 pulled up the garage doors, people were playing music, we 551 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,860 were passing out our bucket hats, people were painting and 552 00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:37,280 spray painting outside and anybody is welcome. And then 553 00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:41,720 every second Thursday of each month, we do a full open house 554 00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:45,590 from five to seven o'clock. And anybody is welcome from the 555 00:35:45,590 --> 00:35:48,860 community. So it could be teachers, parents, young people, 556 00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:52,790 families that are interested, we got food, we got snacks, and 557 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:54,410 people can just come and hang out. 558 00:35:57,110 --> 00:36:01,040 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Okay, so then so and tell them so I know. 559 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,150 I know you have a gym in there, you have music rooms. What else 560 00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:07,580 I know you had a did you have a rock wall or no, 561 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,984 Weston Robins: we did, we had a rock wall. And then we took 562 00:36:11,051 --> 00:36:15,256 nobody was really using parts of it, we took out the holes off 563 00:36:15,324 --> 00:36:19,461 and we made it into a graffiti wall. Oh, and one of the young 564 00:36:19,529 --> 00:36:23,327 people did this beautiful graffiti piece on it. But then 565 00:36:23,394 --> 00:36:27,531 we got a small skate ramp out back we got a fire pit, we have 566 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,601 a ceramics room. And we have a couple of different ceramics 567 00:36:31,668 --> 00:36:35,534 wheels. And we do a lot of pottery, we then have a couple 568 00:36:35,602 --> 00:36:39,468 of different art studios, we have a video game arena. And 569 00:36:39,535 --> 00:36:43,537 then we have our full music recording studio. And we have a 570 00:36:43,605 --> 00:36:47,945 podcast room. That's been really cool that young people can come 571 00:36:48,013 --> 00:36:51,675 on and either want to share their story and blasted on 572 00:36:51,743 --> 00:36:55,880 YouTube or Spotify or they just want to do a mock podcast and 573 00:36:55,948 --> 00:37:00,085 save it for themselves. And so it's been beautiful and funky. 574 00:37:00,152 --> 00:37:03,815 And we have so much space to just move through and use 575 00:37:03,882 --> 00:37:08,087 collectively. But the greatest gift Dr. Trimble is this is for 576 00:37:08,155 --> 00:37:12,292 them. Like this is an I'll get emotional, if I think about it 577 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,158 too much like to give youth a voice in their own healing 578 00:37:16,226 --> 00:37:20,498 journey and therapeutic care the way that they need and want to 579 00:37:20,566 --> 00:37:24,635 do it. i That's my passion and my mission. And so as they've 580 00:37:24,703 --> 00:37:28,569 been up here, they've made eternal strength, their space. 581 00:37:28,636 --> 00:37:32,841 And now it's this flattening of hierarchy, where it's a mutual 582 00:37:32,909 --> 00:37:36,639 liberation, and we're here to work with them. But we're 583 00:37:36,707 --> 00:37:40,912 leading this together. And so the mentors, the clinicians, and 584 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:45,117 the young people, this is our space together to help heal one 585 00:37:45,184 --> 00:37:50,000 another through doing this work together. And it's just been beautiful. 586 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:52,400 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, cuz that ended. And the reason I 587 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,490 want you to share it, because one of the missions of six 588 00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:58,070 figure therapists is to also show that you can do this 589 00:37:58,070 --> 00:38:00,290 differently. Like I said, most times, you just think you sit 590 00:38:00,290 --> 00:38:04,100 there on the couch, and you talk and then you go, but you had a 591 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:08,180 bigger vision. And so you think about, you know, what else could 592 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,960 could we do? And I think that your your vision gives people 593 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,890 room to move outside of that traditional view of providing 594 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,490 healing services and therapy services and helping services. 595 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,920 So I think that that's why it was so important for you to 596 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,990 share what you're doing so hopefully that other 597 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:27,290 practitioners can, can dream bigger or dream differently and 598 00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:31,370 things like that. So, yeah, and especially the community because 599 00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:34,280 I hadn't even thought of that. I'm thinking oh, wow, you know, 600 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,190 to just help the community in general, because mental health 601 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:39,980 again, it's not usually seen that way, right? We just like 602 00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:45,440 exclusive place where you gotta go and can sneak in the building 603 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,530 and sit, you know, but just to have people come I think it 604 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:52,730 helps normalize mental health and mental health practitioners. 605 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:55,040 Weston Robins: Yeah. And Dr. Tremble, I think about it 606 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,430 because it's like, you know, when when you kind of like 607 00:38:58,460 --> 00:39:01,880 philosophically ask the question, what is healing and 608 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,810 what heals people, I think that there's there's its connection, 609 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:08,870 its relationship. It's being fully seen by another human 610 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:12,080 being, and it's Tribal and Community connection, and 611 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:18,860 feeling like you're tuned in. And to me, that happened at the 612 00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:23,120 Boys and Girls Club, at community youth centers at tight 613 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,890 knit tribal, small communities. And we've lost that a big part 614 00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:31,790 of our society is lost that more and more. And so we may have all 615 00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:35,630 these specialized mental health treatment industries, but 616 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:38,240 there's still treatment health facilities, mental health 617 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,410 treatment facilities. And so I wanted to combine the two and my 618 00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:48,200 ultimate goal is to grow and expand to get to a place where 619 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,030 we can blend both. And, you know, when we start to talk 620 00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:58,340 about monetary and mental health, I have a mission there 621 00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:02,120 as well because I feel like I Only the most affluent families 622 00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:06,590 can get access to top tier mental health therapeutic care. 623 00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:11,330 And I understand it because the best practitioners don't want to 624 00:40:11,330 --> 00:40:14,000 hassle with insurance, they can do private pay, they can do a 625 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,060 super bill. It's and I don't blame them. And I had mentors 626 00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:19,910 tell me, you don't want to do that, because they will step on 627 00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:22,010 your toes in terms of how you want to do mental health 628 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:26,990 treatment, do it the way you want to do it. My belief is with 629 00:40:26,990 --> 00:40:31,010 building the community center more and more, we can help heal. 630 00:40:31,070 --> 00:40:36,170 And we can also give families access to therapeutic care and 631 00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:40,040 treatment that would never have the means to get that if we can 632 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,370 do it in a creative way. And so there's a lot of affluent 633 00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:47,060 families that I know, that want to be able to give back and want 634 00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:51,140 to be able to help support a mission. And I think, you know, 635 00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:54,830 when you start to look at socioeconomic status, and kids 636 00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:58,910 from different economic backgrounds, I think a lot of 637 00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:03,260 healing happens when they meet one another, and start to 638 00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:06,560 understand where one another comes from and spend time 639 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,860 together rather than being separated the entire time. And 640 00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:13,580 so there's that beautiful blend. I'm trying to work on more and 641 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:14,090 more. 642 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:19,290 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, I just want one to ask a practical 643 00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:22,320 question. So how do people pay? Are they doing insurance or cash 644 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,160 both or 645 00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:25,590 Weston Robins: so so at a terminal strength? Like I said, 646 00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:29,040 everything is monthly, everything is ala carte, so each 647 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:35,460 service is an hour. So our individual therapy is 250 an 648 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,540 hour, individual therapeutic mentoring is 150 An hour groups 649 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:44,490 or 125 an hour. And then it's building a monthly package of 650 00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:47,400 how many groups are you doing? How much mentoring, how much 651 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,430 individual therapy, how much family therapy, and so it can 652 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:56,640 range anywhere from $1,000 a month, all the way up to $6,000 653 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,660 a month base. And that would be like really immersive, intense 654 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:05,940 PHP level care. And then for families that can't afford those 655 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:10,230 services we offer through cosmic Lamb, the 501 C three, the 656 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:13,710 financial aid form, and the ability to provide them with 657 00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:18,030 therapeutic care and services at a reduced cost. 658 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,070 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Gotcha. And so, um, okay, and so they're 659 00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:25,860 mostly then people are paying the cash then basically 660 00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:29,460 Spacebase Okay, okay. All right. Yeah. Cuz I was thinking like, 661 00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:31,920 you were saying what your mentor said it was insurance, that 662 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,960 definitely would be a lot to figure out how 663 00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:37,230 Weston Robins: we do super bills. And you know, there's 664 00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:40,590 certain families that can take our psychotherapy hours and our 665 00:42:40,590 --> 00:42:45,780 group hours, and we'll fill out the ICD 10 code and CPT codes, 666 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:48,420 and they'll get some partial reimbursement on the back end. 667 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,010 But I, you know, insurance wants to do stuff like, Okay, we'll 668 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:57,120 approve five sessions if you if you treat with EMDR, and you 669 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,310 diagnose PTSD, and it's like, well, insurance doesn't like 670 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:06,570 when I say, We're gonna do a humanistic artistic healing hour 671 00:43:06,570 --> 00:43:12,090 called Radical youth work. They're like, what? So, so it's 672 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:17,220 it's sacrifices, again, you know, to to be different and to 673 00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:22,170 break the mold. But I think when you know, people are seeking 674 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:27,210 healing. And when sacred space, if you if you really care about 675 00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:30,600 what you're doing, and you devote your yourself to it, then 676 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,480 the right people will show up, and you can serve that community 677 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,660 and you know, who you're trying to serve who your people are. 678 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,560 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Alright, well, thank you. I'm gonna ask 679 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,000 you a few more questions, and I'll let you go. Now, one of the 680 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,910 things here is that we believe that there are internal things 681 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:51,540 that you need to have to make six figures and external things 682 00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:54,150 that you need to have make six figures. And of course, we know 683 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:56,190 the ultimate goal is to help people so we know we're going to 684 00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:58,200 do that regardless, like you say, you've done it for free, 685 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,810 I've done it for free. So we're always gonna help people in 686 00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:05,130 grocery store everywhere. So but in terms of this, this piece of 687 00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:08,700 being successful in terms of, because one of the things that I 688 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,700 did like that I do like is employing people, I still think 689 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,220 that that's a part of what we do to and I know, like you said, 690 00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:17,130 you have quite a bit of people you employ. So I don't I still 691 00:44:17,130 --> 00:44:20,100 think it's something about that, too, that I most enjoy as well. 692 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:25,050 But anyway, so what's something that was internal that you had 693 00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:28,770 to work on in order to be successful in order to make six 694 00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:29,310 figures? 695 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:35,340 Weston Robins: I think there was so much Dr. Trump. You know, I, 696 00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:41,580 I have a tendency to get very meta and think in layers and 697 00:44:41,610 --> 00:44:45,780 overthink and almost become neurotic. So I think I had to 698 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,010 the internal work that I had to do was to work on my 699 00:44:53,010 --> 00:45:02,070 relationship with money and to recognize that It was an 700 00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:07,470 integral part of life and how energy moved through through 701 00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:11,970 life. So I think for a long time, I had a huge distaste for 702 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:18,330 how much power money had. And I still, you know, I still don't 703 00:45:18,330 --> 00:45:21,660 like it. But what I recognized was, I don't want to sit on the 704 00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:26,760 sidelines, and just critique and judge and have all these 705 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,800 preconceived notions, I want to get in, and I want to do my best 706 00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:39,690 to be a steward of monetary gain, and use it in a way that 707 00:45:39,690 --> 00:45:44,370 excels and pushes people towards growth and helps as many people 708 00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:49,410 as I can. So I think a lot of it was a relational examination of 709 00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:55,710 all my conditioning, from society about money and riches 710 00:45:55,710 --> 00:45:59,970 and abundance, and what that means and character and all 711 00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:03,930 those things kind of peeling that away. And just being okay 712 00:46:03,930 --> 00:46:08,010 with staying focused on my journey and my mission, and 713 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:12,180 doing doing that work. So I think that was the biggest 714 00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:17,490 internal work was just a lot of paying attention to it. And I 715 00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:23,430 still do it all the time where I don't ever make monetary gain 716 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:30,900 the focus, and anytime that I have, it becomes not good. And 717 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:35,520 then I've met a lot of people who devote their entire lives to 718 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:41,070 monetary gain, and obtainment of that, and they're out of 719 00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:46,530 balance. And so I think for me, it's just a holistic balance and 720 00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:52,800 trying to not have any aversion to it and not judge it and just 721 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,480 trust that I'll make the right decisions. And then a tremendous 722 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,550 amount of internal work with money management. Absolutely, 723 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:05,790 that was something that I'm still I'm about to be 40. And 724 00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:11,580 tracking what I spend, and where I spend it. And, and, and 725 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:16,680 watching and being conscious of the flow of consumerism, holy 726 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,200 crap, I'm like, there's a couple of times where I was like, I 727 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:25,080 will never DoorDash again, oh, my God. What, what, a lot of 728 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,090 times, it's so easy to be unconscious, to what you spend, 729 00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:35,370 because it's just as repetitive thing. And so I'm very tuned in 730 00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:40,680 spiritually with my own practice. And I feel like, I'm 731 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:44,220 almost, I was talking to a buddy the other day, and we were 732 00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:46,620 talking about when you sit down and you eat, and you do a 733 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:49,800 blessing before you food, just to become a little bit more 734 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,470 conscious and a little bit more aware of the gift and what 735 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:55,110 you're doing that you can do that same thing anytime you go 736 00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:59,610 make a purchase, and kind of check in and be like, is this 737 00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:03,780 something that I need, and I want and I need to consume right 738 00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:07,320 now and kind of ask for a blessing, as opposed to just 739 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,890 blindly consuming because man, this society will be like, we'll 740 00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:15,240 sell you anything you want all day, keep buying, go for it, you 741 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,670 know, you never drive down the highway and see a billboard that 742 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:20,250 says you can stop buying shit you have everything you need 743 00:48:20,250 --> 00:48:24,240 within you, you're good, you did just that it's not the message 744 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,020 we get the message we constantly get is you got to consume more, 745 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:32,040 to beat something. And it's like, and then I think a lot 746 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:38,010 about, you know, priorities and where you place your priorities, 747 00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:42,330 and everything has a monetary price tag to it. But what's 748 00:48:42,330 --> 00:48:45,450 important, you know, and where do you want to put your energy? 749 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,010 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, I was reading a well, I don't read 750 00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:51,900 books anymore. I listened, I was listening to a book called The 751 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,650 pleasure trap. And it's a really interesting that it talks about, 752 00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:58,620 like everything we're consuming and all everything is 753 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:01,620 pleasurable. And this was a written out, we gotta go. But I 754 00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:05,160 thought that one good concept, though, was in the book was it 755 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,750 was saying, Could it be that we have too much pleasure? And 756 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:12,810 that's what's going on. Like, think about it, it's like, the 757 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,410 concept was that we have too much pleasure than then that's 758 00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:18,780 why everybody's kind of known because it's like, I got to do 759 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:21,630 everything, like you were saying early on in the conversation 760 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:24,270 about if somebody had just gave you the building and gave you 761 00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:27,750 you know, it just like we might be bombarded with too much 762 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:30,480 pleasure that nothing is pleasurable anymore because we 763 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,140 can instantly get it or find it or buy it. And so then as 764 00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:38,220 humans, are we we we write wiring ourselves to not have 765 00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:41,340 pleasure at all, which then ends up with all kinds of other 766 00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:42,450 issues. 767 00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:44,640 Weston Robins: Absolutely. I totally agree with that. And 768 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:50,100 they call it like hedonic apathy, or a sickness, just just 769 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,600 gluttony that at its worst. And so I think there's something 770 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,680 important about continued sacrifice and not being afraid 771 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,550 of pain and we're are keen and gifts being embedded in that. 772 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:05,880 Dr. Arcella Trimble: And I have fast it. Um, I was fasting for 773 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,370 like 10 days a few weeks ago. I know. 774 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,350 Weston Robins: That's awesome. 775 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,240 Dr. Arcella Trimble: I know. And people were like, how did you do 776 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,880 that? You know how you that couldn't even imagine I was and 777 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,550 I was doing it for discipline. I wasn't doing it. I mean, of 778 00:50:17,550 --> 00:50:19,740 course, I was trying to make sure you know, and get my body 779 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:22,470 together. But I really it was for the discipline of it. 780 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:25,560 Because I knew somebody who works with mines, I have to be 781 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,170 able to control mine. So that's a whole nother conversation. But 782 00:50:28,170 --> 00:50:31,470 I was like, You know what, I can control my mind and didn't help 783 00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:35,370 others. So anyway, but it was awesome. Yeah, it's an 784 00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:37,680 experience. It was an experience. It definitely was an 785 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,730 experience. And I'll be doing it some more. But the point is, 786 00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:44,550 like you said, figuring out how do we hone in on those things 787 00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:47,460 that we need to work on? And how do we believe that it's 788 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:50,700 possible, like you said, so you learn and we're still learning. 789 00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:53,340 We're still growing, but it's possible. So okay, then tell me 790 00:50:53,340 --> 00:50:57,420 what external thing you had to learn to make six figures. So it 791 00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:59,520 could be like you said, business, it could be 792 00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:01,830 spreadsheets, any external thing? 793 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:12,210 Weston Robins: Man. Again, I mean, I, you know, the 794 00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:15,990 philosophical part of me wants to immediately answer that. 795 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,160 Money never stops and numbers never end. And so the attainment 796 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,010 of a certain amount of money should not be the goal, because 797 00:51:23,010 --> 00:51:26,250 that will keep you constantly seeking and searching. And I 798 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:29,070 love that cool interview man is Bob Marley. And they're 799 00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:31,620 interviewing him at one point in they're like, Are you a rich 800 00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:34,890 man? And he says, he says, What are you What do you mean rich? 801 00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:38,040 And he's like, Well, money. Do you have a lot of money? He 802 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,640 said, moneymaker man rich. And they're like, How much money do 803 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,610 you have? And they're like, do you have this amount? He's like, 804 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,730 you know, I think I have money. He's like that. That's not the 805 00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:50,670 kind of rich I'm rich with life. I'm rich with life and Dr. 806 00:51:50,670 --> 00:51:55,530 Trimble, I think the external thing for me has been to let go 807 00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:59,340 of this idea that obtaining a certain amount of money and 808 00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:01,800 hoarding, it is going to be the thing that makes me happy, 809 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,200 because I've met a lot of millionaires, and they are not 810 00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:11,070 happy, and they will tell you this, isn't it now, don't get it 811 00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:16,140 twisted. If you are in the traps of impoverishment, right? You're 812 00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:18,690 damn right money can equal happiness, because it can buy 813 00:52:18,690 --> 00:52:22,020 you a hot shower, it can get you a meal, it can get you out of 814 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:25,680 impoverishment, and an out of survival mode. But more money 815 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,050 doesn't equate to more happiness. So my biggest 816 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:34,260 external is paying attention to it, being conscious of it, 817 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,970 learning fiscal and financial responsibility. And that 818 00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:44,940 financial discipline equals financial freedom. It's not the 819 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:50,280 amount of money you make, it's what you do with the money you 820 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:56,400 make and how you manage it, that can equate to freedom and 821 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,870 investments. And looking at it that way. So that that was the 822 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,690 biggest external, because you when you're younger, you think, 823 00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:08,040 man, if I make a million dollars, that's gonna be but if 824 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,400 your expenses are 1,000,001, 825 00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:12,150 Dr. Arcella Trimble: right? 826 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:15,690 Weston Robins: You spend it all, you know, it's like, I'd rather 827 00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:19,110 be the guy that makes this amount and you learn money 828 00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:22,680 management, and how to track and I've been gifted by these 829 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,030 beautiful mentors that again, you know, have a lot of 830 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:29,910 abundance, but they're very frugal, and they make a lot of 831 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:33,540 smart decisions. And they're conscious and, and they, they 832 00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:37,680 watch money movement, and they're not afraid to look at it 833 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,020 and pay attention to it. So that's been the biggest external 834 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:43,410 is tracking it, watching it, monitoring it, and also not 835 00:53:43,410 --> 00:53:46,890 being emotionally consumed. By 836 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,815 Dr. Arcella Trimble: exactly and that was the whole goal. You 837 00:53:49,866 --> 00:53:53,000 know, initially, I didn't even want to call this a six figure 838 00:53:53,052 --> 00:53:56,135 therapy because I know people like oh, you know, money is my 839 00:53:56,186 --> 00:53:59,115 butt. But again, one of the things I realized, especially 840 00:53:59,166 --> 00:54:02,198 when my kids were small, I realized, like you said, you had 841 00:54:02,249 --> 00:54:05,280 to take care of people, you know, and now I'm only child, I 842 00:54:05,332 --> 00:54:08,518 got parents, I'll take care of my parents, because they didn't 843 00:54:08,569 --> 00:54:11,857 save a whole bunch of money. So I have to do that. And then like 844 00:54:11,909 --> 00:54:15,146 you said, to give it away that when my kids were in college, we 845 00:54:15,197 --> 00:54:18,229 gave away computers to kids who didn't have so we gave away 846 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,363 money we gave you like I said, you could come back and get a 847 00:54:21,414 --> 00:54:24,600 you with the nonprofit. And so it's like, if you have that you 848 00:54:24,651 --> 00:54:27,734 can give but like you said, there is a balance because it is 849 00:54:27,785 --> 00:54:30,920 more it's more to it than that. And so I think a good balance 850 00:54:30,971 --> 00:54:34,260 combination of both, you know, good ego death alive. Absolutely. 851 00:54:34,290 --> 00:54:36,150 Weston Robins: Dr. Trump, I just want to say one more thing, 852 00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:38,340 because you made me think about this. And this is so important 853 00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:43,260 to me. I used to think that if you gift someone with money, 854 00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:47,730 it's always a good thing. And that's not necessarily true, 855 00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:52,320 because there are times in my life where people gave me money, 856 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:56,730 and it didn't help because I wasn't in a healthy position to 857 00:54:56,730 --> 00:55:00,450 use it the right way to balance it. So and then they Do these 858 00:55:00,450 --> 00:55:03,570 studies sometimes with homeless people where they've like, given 859 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:06,060 them everything, and they've been like, Okay, we're gonna 860 00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:07,620 take you off the street, we're gonna give you an apartment, 861 00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:09,450 we're gonna give you an art, we're gonna give you a job, 862 00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:12,030 we're gonna give you all this. And they will end up nine times 863 00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:15,840 out of 10, homeless once again, because what they really needed 864 00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:19,350 was somebody who was a coach who could help them manage money, 865 00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:23,070 who could help them understand and watch the flow of it, not 866 00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:27,840 just the thing itself. And so I'm very grateful that any 867 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,260 amount of financial gain that shows up in my life right now, I 868 00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:36,090 have people that I can go to, and I can consult and say, help 869 00:55:36,090 --> 00:55:40,110 me think through this. Where should I place these funds? How 870 00:55:40,110 --> 00:55:43,170 should they be utilized? What are my goals in my life, in 871 00:55:43,170 --> 00:55:46,260 terms of my daughter's my family, in terms of 872 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:49,770 philanthropic work, giving back community, continuing the 873 00:55:49,770 --> 00:55:53,460 business running the nonprofit? That's more valuable than 874 00:55:53,460 --> 00:55:56,640 anything? If you could tell me right now, West will give you $5 875 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,380 million and no mentors, or will give you mentors, and this 876 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,020 amount, I'd be like, give me the mentors all day, because then I 877 00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:07,230 know where to go and what to do. And I'm learning Yeah, 878 00:56:07,930 --> 00:56:10,030 Dr. Arcella Trimble: yeah. Yeah. I mean, it makes so much sense. 879 00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:14,050 It makes so much sense. So before we go there anything else 880 00:56:14,050 --> 00:56:20,230 you want to say to anyone, especially people who who have a 881 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:24,460 vision, you know, especially the big vision to help others? 882 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,030 Weston Robins: Yeah, yeah, I think I think I want to talk 883 00:56:30,030 --> 00:56:34,920 from my heart to young people. And so I appreciate you naming 884 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,400 your your podcast, the six figure therapist and us having 885 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,470 an open, honest discussion about career career development, 886 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,250 monetary gain, financial responsibility. I think that's 887 00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:49,740 important, because I think a lot of people avoid talking about 888 00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:52,350 it, because they feel like it's taboo, just like sex and death. 889 00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:54,750 And Freud, people don't want to talk about it. I think it's 890 00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:58,560 better when we talk about it. But what I want to say to young 891 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:04,620 people, is I believe that when you follow your passion, you do 892 00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:09,780 something that feeds your soul, that there is no ceiling to your 893 00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:14,100 success, and that's emotionally psychologically, holistically, 894 00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:19,170 financially, spiritually, but without the purpose without the 895 00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:22,320 mission. I think there's going to be a point in your 896 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,650 developmental growth where you start to question why am I doing 897 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:29,580 what I'm doing? So I'd figured out that why first, what's my 898 00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:32,370 purpose? What's my mission? What's my vision? What do I care 899 00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:36,120 about the most? And then I pour everything into that and I think 900 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,880 with the right mentors and support, you can have all the 901 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,800 successes you want in every arena. 902 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,860 Dr. Arcella Trimble: That's why I can't say anything more 903 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,790 perfect than that. So thank you so much. I'm so excited you're 904 00:57:47,790 --> 00:57:52,410 here and I know you'll be back. Awesome. Thank you. 905 00:57:52,530 --> 00:58:06,750 Weston Robins: Thank you, Dr. Trimble