Episode Summary – SURVIVORSHIP IS A TEAM SPORT! In Episode 106 of the Shining Brightly Podcast show (links in the comments) titled “RECLAIMING YOUR POWER”, my guest is an incredible COURAGEOUS WARRIOR and CANCER SURVIVOR - Ryn Sloane. She was diagnosed at 38 so young with Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, ER/PR+, HER2- breast cancer and fought through a double mastectomy, expanders, and implant reconstruction. It was brutal and life-changing, testing every ounce of her willpower, but she has emerged stronger. We then discuss her ASHES OF COURAGE online support group and HEAL BRAVELY survivorship where everyone comes in as a “messy human” and works toward sorting it all out. Come listen, download, share, review this show if you or anyone you know was touched by CANCER.
Mentioned Resources –
About the guest –
Ryn Sloane is not just a breast cancer survivor—she's a warrior and a THRIVER. Diagnosed at 38 with Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, ER/PR+, HER2-, she fought through a double mastectomy, expanders, and implant reconstruction. It was brutal and life-changing, testing every ounce of her willpower, but she emerged stronger. Through raw self-expression and learning how to process the deep emotional impact of cancer, Ryn avoided the common traps of PTSD and depression. When she saw the massive gap in support for survivors, she embraced her purpose—to guide others through the darkness of survivorship. Ryn developed The Sloane Healing Method™, a full-human approach that addresses mind, body, and soul healing. This transformative framework not only helps clients heal from the invisible scars of cancer but also empowers cancer warriors to remove fear and scanxiety, teaching them how to live beyond cancer, no matter what their stage or diagnosis. Through The Warriors Rising Movement, Ryn empowers survivors to reclaim their power, find joy, and step into a life of fulfillment. Today, she is proud to be referred to by numerous breast cancer organizations, surgeons, hospitals, and fellow cancer warriors.
About the Host:
Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.
Website
Http://www.shiningbrightly.com
Social Media
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/howard.brown.36
LinkedIn - https://wwwlinkedin.com/in/howardsbrown
Instagram - @howard.brown.36
Thanks for listening!
Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page.
Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite podcast app so that you do not miss future episodes. And while you are there, it would help us get the word out to more people if you could leave an honest review.
Subscribe to the podcast
If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe to your favorite podcast app.
#cancer #breast #support #healing #diagnosis #treatment #survivorship #life #courage #community #wellness #coaching #power #motivation #education #inspiration #podcast #listen #download #share #review #shiningbrightly
Howard, hello. It's Howard brown. It's the
Shining Brightly Show. Welcome back. Oh my god. By raving fans,
I'm so excited today I have an amazing, amazing guest and story
to tell you. Ryn Sloane, welcome. How are you?
Thank you. I'm good. How are you?
I'm awesome. Oh, God, for those of you that are
listening, I have to describe she's got Mandalorians and what
is behind you.
These are the things that bring me joy. These are my
Funko Pops, my quirky little a lot of Batman, Joker. Harley
Quinn, those are my favorites. And Deadpool, those are my
favorites, a little bit of transformers that I grew up
with, Nightmare Before Christmas, of course. And you've
got to have Snowball from pets, because he's the best
I got it. And you have your pink ribbon for breast
cancer awareness. I love it. So thank you for sharing that for
those that are watching will be able to watch on YouTube or see
this. It's, it's an amazing studio set. So I just want to
tell you how to describe that for the listening and the
viewing audience as well. So let me tell you a little bit about
and I were introduced. Big shout out to Gail Katz, right? And
she's the best. She's She's a mentor and friend to me, and I
know she is to you, but let me tell you about Ryn a little bit,
because she is incredible. So Ryn Sloane, with an e, okay, is
not just a breast cancer survivor. She is a warrior and a
thriver. She was diagnosed at the young age of 38 with
invasive ductal carcinoma, e3, slash, PR positive. Her too, and
she fought through a double mastectomy, expanders and
implant reconstruction. It is just brutal and life changing
and tested every ounce of her willpower, but she has emerged
stronger through raw self expression and learning how to
progress deep into the emotional impact of cancer. Ren avoided
the common traps of PTSD and depression when she saw this
massive gap in support for cancer survivors and maybe even
trauma survivors of lots of things, she embraced her purpose
to guide others through the darkness of survivorship. So the
light, which we I call shining brightly, Ren has developed the
Sloan healing method. It's a full human approach to address
mind, body and soul healing. And this transformative work not
only helps clients heal the invisible scars of cancer, but
empowers cancer warriors to remove the fear and skin
society. She teaches them how to live beyond cancer, no matter
their stage or diagnosis. And I tell you that we are in such
alignment because it is beautiful, because that's how
you take people from darkness to lift up yourself, and then go
lift up others, and that is shining brightly, and that's why
you're here, because we're going to talk about that much more.
But before we do that, I want to ask you a question, how do you
shine brightly each day?
That's a great question. My most favorite thing
that I do every single day is take a pause and look at what
I'm grateful for. And every day, I try to find three different
things, but I do it in a way. It's not like a checklist, it's
a feeling.
I didn't do that so important. Yeah, neither did
I, by the way, I look in the mirror every morning, and I
actually say a mantra that to I am grateful, I am blessed, and I
am damn lucky to be alive. Let's go make this a great day. Let's
go make this a great day, and we do that by choosing kindness and
joy and healing and gratitude and not choosing hate and all
that stuff. So that's chapter one in my book. So we just
covered that. So thank you. All right. Well, let's dig in a
little bit, because your story is incredible, and you are so
courageous. The word that when I met you, was like, this is a
woman of courage and a person of courage. And I just in such
respect and awe of you as I am most cancer patients in
treatment and in survivorship. So give me a little more
background. Take us through, you know, the journey.
Oh yeah. So I was, I was 38 I was visiting family in
my hometown of Toronto in September 2018 and for some
weird reason that day after my shower, I felt a lump like I
never did a self check, but prior, and I just was like, let
me just check this. And had a lump. And I was like, Oh my God,
it was just one of those sinking feelings. And then you can't
tell anybody, because you don't really know what you found. So
it was a really long trip. I was in my head the entire time, and
it was really challenging. And within six weeks I was
diagnosed. And in that six week period I was diagnosed. And
biopsies and tests and double mastectomy, it was like, really
fast, and I kind of describe it as a tornado, being inside of a
tornado. You know, it happens so fast, and you're just you're in
shock, and it doesn't seem real, and is this really happening?
And you're hanging on for dear life, and your whole life is up
in the air, and everything's fine around you. And yeah, it
was a ride, and it was, it was a really tough one, and that was
not my first health battle. I had many prior from when I was
pregnant with my son at 38 so basically my entire 30s was
health trauma, really preparing me for for what I do now. Um,
but, yeah, a lot of, a lot of health trauma, body trauma, and
breast cancer, like that. One really knocked me down. Really
knocked me down. I was, when I was diagnosed, I was at my
physically strongest I had ever been. Um, I'm a little person,
so to me, to be strong is important, because otherwise you
get bullied, right? So it was always like, very mindful of
that, and that was a big part of my identity. And I went from my
strongest to literally a month after my mastectomy. I was 99
pounds and scrawny and couldn't stand up straight at that time,
and I was devastated, really devastated. And for about 30
seconds, I had the same thoughts that we all have as to, why is
this happening? What did I do? Why me? And decided, no, I'm not
playing this game. I decided, all right, one of us is going
down. Let's go like because I got a five year old and I'm not
ready, and so I decided, all right, it's time to fight, and
we'll see which one of us goes down. And I had my sights way
ahead, even though I was in a lot of a dark tunnel for a long
time, I just kept my sights very forward, and every single day,
would just keep seeing where I'm going, what's the goal, and just
whatever I could do that day to get a step closer to it is
really what kept me going.
I want to say thank you for that introduction,
because it you know, we all when I was diagnosed now twice, I was
analog and 23 and a half years old, and then 50 for the colon
rectal cancer stage three and the metastatic stage four. And
everyone deals with it a little bit differently, but I say that
we all get knocked down in health and in life and in
business and finance and relationships, and we have to
get back up again. But it is absolutely very complex. It's
ABC soup of a whole new language. You're learning a
whole new language of oncology and cancer that you don't
understand you were not trained for, and where to go for help,
where to go for support. And quite frankly, I call that
walking in darkness and that shock, that denial, that fear,
that anger is all justified. No one has to tell you how to
handle it. You handle it the way you want to handle it. I always
say, and I know you say, just don't handle it alone. Don't
walk alone. Don't walk alone. And that's that's the key to
both of our our coaching and our teaching and our premises is
that if you can build your Calvary, build your support
infrastructure, and if you can't people like you and I build it
with you and for you, and that's what we do. That's what we do to
do that. So tell me about where you found the strength and to
figure this out. I mean, because you said you took about five
seconds, but I'm sure it's longer, but you this happened
very quick, very, very quickly to you, and you had body changes
that, you know, really, where you're curable, that's, you
know, the woman's breast, that's part of you. And you had to have
reconstruction. And that's, I don't even how you, you know,
emotionally, can deal with that, but you had to,
I did, but to be honest with you, so I had those
previous health challenges, right, going through pregnancy,
and then with my son, and he was an emergency, and then my body
was all messed up, and I had a hernia, and, like, founded a
head end of me, like it was a mess. It was a mess, and so I
think that kind of helped prep me, but I feel like my situation
was a little bit different with the breast cancer, because I had
this conversation with my my breast surgeon, I remember
originally the plan was a lumpectomy, because where they
found the lump and it was small enough they felt very confident
they could just go in and remove it, and that would be that. But
after more tests, they ended up finding actually a second lump
on the same side. And so she called me and said, it's an
automatic mastectomy. And I said to her, great, like, if, if
we're looking at that, we're going to. Do the full thing like
I'm not playing games. I don't and I really like to say that
this is such a personal choice, and there's not a right answer,
it's the answer that you're you feel comfortable making. And for
me, it was just an instant take them both. I don't want to think
about this again. I don't want to worry about this again. And
and the night before my surgery, I kind of went into the
bathroom, I took a picture, kind of said, Thank you so much for
being with me for 38 years. I love you, but I'm sorry you have
to go because I need to. I'm trying to save my life. I, like,
literally did that, and I never done any kind of ritual or
anything like that prior. And so for me, I wasn't devastated to
lose that body part. And at the same time, I also my brain
didn't know what a mastectomy meant. It wasn't until about a
year ago, I'm coming up to six years in survivorship, and it
wasn't until about a year ago, a year and a half ago, that I
heard a mastectomy is an amputation, and when I heard
that, it took me a few days to process it, because I was like,
whoa. And once I did process it, so many things finally made
sense to my brain. And I think that's really important, because
we don't talk about it in those terms, but when we do talk about
it, all of a sudden, it makes sense to us as people that are
not medically trained. We don't speak medical terms. A
mastectomy, to my brain, means nothing, right? But when I say
amputation, now I understand okay, like I get stuck between
doors, sometimes I walk into things, sometimes, because I
don't have that sensation when now I understand where before it
was like, what? Why? Like, why does this happen? It didn't make
sense. So I looked at it honestly. I don't stomach
medical stuff. Well, I get very nauseous and Wheezy and queasy
and all the things. But when I was finally able to see what I
looked like with the expanders in after the mastectomy, and I
could take the tape off the incision. So that was the first
surgery. It took me a long time to do that, I decided I earned
these scars like these are battle wounds. So my mentality
was very different. I didn't feel like I lost a sexual part
of me because I was like, You know what I'm fighting here.
This is, this is okay. Like, I don't, I don't know how to
formulate the words properly around this. It's always tricky
to me because it's a very touchy subject, but I took it as more
of a warrior's kind of like I went to battle, and now I have
these triumph wounds, like, that's how I decided to look at
it, versus I lost something. But
it's very personal. I appreciate people
that keep their their their cancer diagnosis, treatment or
survivorship, very private. You and I are very public. And
whether you call yourself a badass or a warrior or it's on a
journey, I respect that. If you don't, I respect that too, but
it it changes you. It changes you. And when I had a 4% chance
of living from stage four metastatic colorectal cancer and
colon cancer specifically, your priorities change your life.
Clock changes, you know, I just want to see my daughter graduate
high school, I was asking for a couple of years to walk across
that stage and get that diploma, and she did, and then walk
across the stage and get her college diploma. And now that
she's a TV reporter on Missoula, Montana with a boyfriend, at the
right time, I will walk her down the aisle. And the goals get
bigger, and the life clock is now gets to be expanded, and
that's not always for everyone and how you deal with this. But
now I want to change subjects a little bit, because thank you
for sharing very deep, personal part of you, but I want to talk
about healing, and that the approach to healing that you
have, the ashes of courage community you have built. And
then lastly, you know, we'll talk about survivorship, but
let's talk about ashes of courage and your approach to
healing first.
So, yeah, ashes of courage is my free support
community that I built with a dear friend of mine, Candice
Doucette, who's also a she's a breast cancer fighter, stage
four, NBC, incredible human. We were very, very intentional with
this support group. And so when I went through breast cancer, I
didn't have a support group. I felt very out of place because I
was 38 all the pamphlets, all the posters, all this stuff in
the clinic, it was much older women, and I thought, okay,
something's wrong with me, like it wasn't common to be a young
person going through breast cancer, and it wasn't portrayed
that way either. So I didn't go looking for a support group,
because I didn't want to be the baby in the group. I didn't feel
like. Yes. So I had basically one or two people, and that was
it. And I do not recommend that. I don't so I wanted to build a
support community that felt very safe to people, no matter where
they are in their cancer journey, what their diagnosis
is, what kind of cancer it is doesn't matter. I wanted them to
be able to land somewhere where they felt safe, where they felt
seen and understood. And I also am very big none of my
communities or spaces or when you come into my world, there is
no judgment. We leave that at the door because it's not
helpful. So ashes of courage is a new support community. We just
launched it this year, and we have some incredible humans,
people from many different kinds of cancer, and every month, we
get to connect with each other directly over zoom, like you and
I are doing right now, which has been a really special event we
all look forward to every every year, every month, and we get to
know each other on a different level than you would if it's
just through chatting. It's been, it's been a beautiful
experience to be honest with you, to be able to build that so
people can come in and just be who they are and just let down
their guards and say, you know, I'm having a bad day, and we can
be there for them and help them through that, you know, or
celebrate something that could happen too.
Yeah, I really appreciate that you've invited
me in and I participated. And I think that just the group has
real honesty, authenticity, but its approach is really, really
nice, because you can celebrate the big and small victories, and
you can celebrate, you know, some really hard stuff that
people are still going through at this stage and things like
that. And I think that it's important to have that outlet.
You have to have people on your team that are willing to hear
you and guide you and support you, because it's a it's a tough
walk alone, and it's dark, and when people can share a bit of
light and pick you up that day, that can mean everything from
not wanting to get out of bed that day, and it's different for
Everybody. Side effects are different, the emotional trauma,
the physical trauma, the financial toxicity, how you're
dealing with relationships, with kids, with other family members,
work, co workers. Boy, I've just seen the gambit, and I know you
have too, as well. So I love this program. Tell me about it's
called heal, bravely, your survivorship, because I know the
numbers, all right, 18 million people living with cancer,
growing to 30 million by the end of 2030 people are living with
cancer. They're living with all the effects of it, and they're
trying to put, as I call it, Humpty, Dumpty back together
again, put their lives back together, emotionally,
physically, financially, in relationships and more. So tell
me about that program.
Yeah, heal bravely is basically teaching somebody
how to put themselves back together again, how to reclaim
their lives, how to find hope and joy again. And basically
what I call it is learning how to heal the invisible scars,
because they're pretty big, from cancer, and I learned going
through all of my health challenges, I have a really
unique, fun sometimes, and really effective approach to do
it. And it's, it's not, it's not really a standard approach,
which I'm kind proud of, because I like to kind of go on my own
path. But it's it's a healing program. It's a 12 month healing
program. And I literally walk side by side with each person
that comes in. And my invitation is to come in as the messy human
that you are, put everything on the table, and together we're
going to sort it. We don't do just the good stuff for just the
bad stuff. We do all of it because that's how we heal. We
gotta look at everything. We're gonna process it little by
little. I'm gonna teach you a lot of stuff that's gonna help
basically change your life. But we start with cancer, and by the
end of it, I really need to take, like, a before and after
photo. I was saying this to a client of mine the other day,
who's been with me for almost six months, because literally,
somebody's physical face changes. It's like wild to see
how they literally evolve to become a different version of
themselves, and I get to witness it, and it's such an honor and a
joy to watch that
It's transformative it sounds like
there's so many people that need that help, and know that someone
who needs that help as well. You use the term called scanxiety.
Now I know what that is. Tell people what scanxiety is.
Scanxiety is that awful fear that develops from
having to go to a doctor's appointment, a follow up, a
scan. And waiting for test results, like all of it. And as
you know, I think it's a cancer community term that we've kind
of dubbed it scanxiety, but it's anxiety. It's anxiety around
anything, basically medical or waiting for information. You
know, that kind of thing,
stress. It is stressful. It is stress. It is
it is stress. So I am dealing with that stress because
sometimes you're waiting for bad news or the shoe to drop, or,
you know, we live by our scans and our test results and our
doctor's appointments that actually propel us. And in what
we call surveillance mode of survivorship, it's a quarterly
visit to basically check to see where things are at. And if you
progress, that's bad news. If you say stable, that's typically
good news. And if you regress or you stay, no evidence of disease
at this time, you are grateful. But those appointments that they
bring on that so thank you for sharing that as well. Well,
we actually tackle that though. Okay, anxiety and
fear are biggies, and I can tell you, most people, when they come
into my world, in that program, within about six to eight weeks,
we've dealt with it and there's no more scanxiety.
Wow, wow, wow, wow. Listen, I know that this is
we have so much more to dig in, but this is a tease. I want
people to contact you, so let's put on our sunglasses. Yeah, no,
absolutely. We're going to put our sunglasses. We are going to
shine brightly together. This is the shining brightly spotlight
on, on rinse, long. Tell people how best to get in touch with
you, to learn about your community, your programs, and
then leave me with some inspiration to close off the
show.
Yeah, I can be found on Facebook or Instagram at Ryn
Sloane with an E at the end. Or you can visit my website,
rynsloane.com with an E again, I forget what I told you was going
to be my inspiration.
I think you had a quote of inspiration.
I forget what it was. Did you write it down? I
didn't read it. I
didn't, it's okay. But did you something about a
folder or something? I can't remember. I did not write it
down. But
no, but I would go, Oh, I trust in the unfolding of
my life. That is actually one of the beliefs that I work on. I do
belief work every day, and that's currently one of my beliefs.
Say it again.
I believe in the unfolding of my life.
I love it. Thank you that I just wanted people to
hear it because it's that's we've did remember it. So chemo
brain or not, we both figured it out. So thank you. Well You have
been listening or watching the shining brightly podcast show
with the incredible Rin Sloan, thank you. You can get a hold of
me and see this show on 24 channels via captivate.fm and
get in touch with me. Shinybritely.com Learn about my
book. Hire me to speak and facilitate your next fundraiser
or your show, and learn about my advocacy work in cancer
screening, cancer treatment and cancer survivorship, along with
Ren and others, and then also my advocacy work in interfaith
relations, getting to know the other, choosing not to hate as
well of what I'm all about. And just remember I also I got to
thank my people that made me look good today as well. So my
publisher, free frontage publishing, read the spirit
magazine podcast, finishing team from amplifyou up in British
Columbia, Canada, and also diamond moments magazine, thank
you for your support and sponsorship and making me look
good. Now, if we choose to shine brightly every day, sometimes we
can't, but if we do for ourselves and then lift up
others in our communities and neighborhoods and even around
the world, okay, we will become a force multiplier for good and
positive change, and yes, the world does become a better
place. Thank you. Ryn, thank you. Health Health Health health
to you and to everyone you support. Thank you.
Thank you too, applause.