FINDING YOUR PASSION! In Episode 65 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show titled, “LOVE WHAT YOU DO” (LINKS IN THE COMMNETS) please meet Lori Osbourne, chief solutions architect and web solutions helping clients with design and tool to help her customers and their brands get “KNOWN, LIKED and TRUSTED”! A brain tumor survivor who got back up again shares that her superpower is that she breaks complexity down to small understandable bites. Lori shares that her “happy place” is the BEACH. Huge shout out to Robert Jones, Natalie McQueen, Buddy Thorton, and Dawn Campbell from the Art of Connection – collaborative book 4 with 365 days of Gratitude for introducing us! Come listen, download, share and review this insightful show.
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Hi, I am Lori Osborne, and I am the Founder and Chief Solutions Architect for BizBolster Web Solutions, LLC. Thank you for taking the time to get to know me so you can best determine if we would work well together! If you are a small business owner/manager, solopreneur, or you support a non-profit, we’re off to a good start. My focus is to provide businesses like yours with more than a website… I want to provide you with a marketing solution that WORKS for you! I absolutely love technology…I love everything about it! Building websites and planning digital marketing strategies are my passion (they literally get me up in the morning) and providing you with this expertise is my calling. I have worked in technology for over 25 years in a wide variety of sectors. I have also owned two small businesses and have been part of several others, so I know what it’s like to wear a dozen different hats.
Regardless of the role or title, my main strengths have always been communication, planning, quality control/testing, content creation, and attention to detail. (Yes, I am a recovering Type A and a Perfectionist!) So while I’m meeting your technical and marketing needs, I am also applying these skills. But building your website and planning your digital marketing strategy is much more than just understanding technology and pushing keys on a keyboard! It takes understanding you and your area of specialty, as well as understanding the proper marketing approach to take to ensure that your website is exceptional at attracting prospects and turning those prospects into clients. Your website needs to do more than just look good - it needs to literally be the hub of your business and your marketing!
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Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.
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Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly
Howard Brown:Show your Maestro with the mic. Oh, man, the sun is shining
Howard Brown:while I'm talking to Florida. So maybe that helps, too. I have
Howard Brown:the amazing Lori Osbourne with me today. Lori, how are you?
Lori Osbourne:I am great. Happy to be here.
Howard Brown:I love your background for those that will
Howard Brown:be watching. think oh, it's really what a good colour.
Howard Brown:You're looking. Just Great and the earrings still oh my god,
Howard Brown:everything's matching
Lori Osbourne:part of the brand?
Howard Brown:Yes, it is. It certainly is. Well, I have to
Howard Brown:tell you. I got to tell you a little bit about Lori first and
Howard Brown:then we're going to tell you how we met. So we'll get into that.
Howard Brown:And then she's going to share a little secret about her. So
Howard Brown:we'll get into that too. All right, so Lori is the founder
Howard Brown:and the chief Solution Architect of biz bolster Web Solutions.
Howard Brown:She designs websites, implements targeted tools to attract and
Howard Brown:build the know like and trust with prospects. Oh my gosh, she
Howard Brown:gets you business. Lori has over 30 years of experience in
Howard Brown:technology, and has been a small business owner for 15 years. She
Howard Brown:is married to the love of her life and they live in Amelia
Howard Brown:Island, Florida. There to a durable Furbabies Excellent. Oh
Howard Brown:my god, this is great. Well welcome and maybe share it share
Howard Brown:a little something that you know, not everybody knows about.
Howard Brown:Yeah, what's a little secret we should know.
Howard Brown:About I have two trophies from growing up. One from bowling in
Howard Brown:the third grade and one from debate in high school. So you've
Howard Brown:got to trophy and you still have these trophies.
Lori Osbourne:Oh my all the trophies I own. I was not good
Lori Osbourne:at sports at all. But boy, I can debate.
Howard Brown:Alright, so I have to tell you I'm from New England
Howard Brown:and New England has candle pin the fin pens, but these are
Howard Brown:probably regular bowling, right?
Lori Osbourne:Yeah. And I don't think I can even do as well
Lori Osbourne:today as I did back in third grade.
Howard Brown:Trophy winner. Alright, so debate. Just what
Howard Brown:was the what was a cool question and and during this debate that
Howard Brown:you got a trophy for?
Lori Osbourne:I don't even remember, you go awful. I do not
Lori Osbourne:remember, I just remember that. I really love research. And I
Lori Osbourne:just like I love speaking to. But I think I enjoyed the
Lori Osbourne:research part, and preparing more than even doing the debate
Lori Osbourne:part. Even though that was you know, quite comfortable as well.
Lori Osbourne:You know, I actually told my mom when I was 12 years old, I was
Lori Osbourne:going to be a public speaker when I grew up. So yeah, yeah,
Lori Osbourne:well,
Howard Brown:those trophies, those trophies are a part of
Howard Brown:your childhood. Thank you for sharing that out. I want to tell
Howard Brown:you that we were introduced. And for those that are we'll see on
Howard Brown:video, the art of connection. And this is volume three that
Howard Brown:both Lori and I were both in this book. This is a
Howard Brown:collaborative author book, you are March 2, I'm September 20.
Howard Brown:And you We both met Robert Jones and Natalie, McQueen and Buddy
Howard Brown:Thorton, the team that puts all this together. And this is a
Howard Brown:great network. I actually I know you actually have some type of a
Howard Brown:role in the network where you actually MC one of the network's
Howard Brown:I think on Mondays i Come on Tuesdays. How did you get
Howard Brown:connected with Robert and this whole group?
Lori Osbourne:You know, it's crazy. I just I had a coach in
Lori Osbourne:Phoenix. And I just started meeting people from Phoenix. And
Lori Osbourne:someone I we just got on a call one day and she goes, I really
Lori Osbourne:want to invite you to one of these meetings where we
Lori Osbourne:interview people that aren't even members. And I'm like,
Lori Osbourne:Wait, you're giving me a spotlight opportunity when I'm
Lori Osbourne:not even a member will Heck yeah, because I'm all about DC
Lori Osbourne:to get business. And Robert followed up with this phenomenal
Lori Osbourne:deal to join and be in the book at A and that was it. You know,
Lori Osbourne:I'm like, Okay, you you have made it so easy to be part of
Lori Osbourne:your network. How could I say no. And it just grew from there.
Lori Osbourne:Yeah,
Howard Brown:so I met Natalie McQueen. And she was like, your
Howard Brown:book is lonely. I had my memoir shining brightly, I only think
Howard Brown:on my author page for Amazon. And to write a single page about
Howard Brown:an inspirational quote about shining brightly and kind of my
Howard Brown:whole movement was easy to do. And then I got into knowing the
Howard Brown:community. And you know, now that they're actually, you know,
Howard Brown:the fourth book coming out, there's 1200, heartfelt, you
Howard Brown:know, people and the community is great. I've met a tonne of
Howard Brown:people and that's how you and I got introduced now. Your quote
Howard Brown:we're going to talk about a little bit later, but you face
Howard Brown:some tough times here. So, and I've heard you talk about
Howard Brown:resilience before. But tell us take us through the journey of
Howard Brown:resilience and the challenges that you overcame a little bit
Howard Brown:Sure.
Lori Osbourne:So, you know, I know everybody, just about
Lori Osbourne:everybody in the world has had a hard life. I, you know, I
Lori Osbourne:started my life, literally not knowing who my father was I've
Lori Osbourne:lost three families in my entire life. As a result, I ended up
Lori Osbourne:marrying someone at 19 that I had no business marrying and I
Lori Osbourne:didn't want to divorce so I was in a very abusive marriage for
Lori Osbourne:16. I was with him for 18 years came during that I think what
Lori Osbourne:what really the crutch was and finally having the desire and
Lori Osbourne:need to leave was I got colon cancer. And I am fully fully
Lori Osbourne:believe it was all from stress, I was only 36 years old. And
Lori Osbourne:within two years, I realised this is this is literally
Lori Osbourne:killing me, I need to get out. And then I lost my mother at 63
Lori Osbourne:to cancer, I also lost my grandmother at 63 to cancer. And
Lori Osbourne:about 2015 I found out I have a brain tumour. And it is a
Lori Osbourne:meningioma, it's benign, most of them are, but it can't be
Lori Osbourne:removed, it sits on my pituitary, and my it was pushing
Lori Osbourne:on my optical nerve, and it is part of my carotid artery. So
Lori Osbourne:they did do surgery to go in to get it off my optical nerve,
Lori Osbourne:nicked my carotid caused a brain bleed caused my left eye to go
Lori Osbourne:mostly blind. And then had to do a second surgery where they had
Lori Osbourne:to replace my septum. And it just, you know, it's a lot of
Lori Osbourne:trouble for not doing anything, really to the tumour. And a lot
Lori Osbourne:of chronic pain as a as a result. But you know, the thing
Lori Osbourne:is, and the thing that I write about in the book is, yeah,
Lori Osbourne:these horrible things happen to us. And at the end of the day,
Lori Osbourne:it's all about your attitude towards it. And what I got out
Lori Osbourne:of it was, I didn't want to go back to the corporate world, I
Lori Osbourne:didn't feel like I could even handle the stress of IT project
Lori Osbourne:management anymore. So I just started looking for something to
Lori Osbourne:do to be productive, and maybe turn into a business someday.
Lori Osbourne:And discovered web design. Obviously, I was in technology,
Lori Osbourne:I was a project manager for websites, but I'd never
Lori Osbourne:Honestly, I've never had a creative job in my life ever.
Lori Osbourne:And I had this whole creative part of me that wasn't even
Lori Osbourne:being used. So I started doing web design and realised oh my
Lori Osbourne:gosh, all this analytical side of me can be used. And I can be
Lori Osbourne:creative, and I'm really good at it. So I at how old was I then
Lori Osbourne:46 years old, found my passion. And I am grateful, literally
Lori Osbourne:grateful for this tumour because I don't know if I would have
Lori Osbourne:ever gotten here without it. So
Howard Brown:So,are you thinking that part of your
Howard Brown:resiliency and healing was finding your passion?
Lori Osbourne:Um, yeah, and I think that I just, you know,
Lori Osbourne:I've just developed resiliency over my lifetime of just
Lori Osbourne:overcoming challenges and coming out with with a better attitude
Lori Osbourne:from it. You know, it's, I think that's the key, like you can,
Lori Osbourne:you can have bad times in life, and you can just live and wallow
Lori Osbourne:in it. Or you can look at it and go, Okay, you know, my marriage?
Lori Osbourne:Yeah, I could look at it that I wasted 18 years of my life, or I
Lori Osbourne:can look at it as I had 18 years to learn what I did not want
Lori Osbourne:what did not work for me. And now I am married to literally
Lori Osbourne:the perfect person that I feel like was built just to offset me
Lori Osbourne:and my personality. Like, I don't know how it's possible,
Lori Osbourne:but literally, our personalities were just meant to be together,
Lori Osbourne:complete opposite of my first marriage. So I think it's all
Lori Osbourne:attitude. I think resiliency is attitude at the end of
Howard Brown:the day, and c equals attitude. Yeah, I, I
Howard Brown:agree with you. I mean, I I say in my book, and I say when I
Howard Brown:speak as well, that, you know, we all get knocked down in life
Howard Brown:and in business and in with our cases health, and in human
Howard Brown:relationships, and, and others. And we can learn from that, that
Howard Brown:darkness and now use the light and darkness and my book with a
Howard Brown:shining brightly is that we can learn from that. And it's what
Howard Brown:you do to get back up again. And you've done it you've gotten
Howard Brown:back up and that's the that's the game. That's that's the
Howard Brown:point of getting back up again, and learning from those past
Howard Brown:relationships, those past business experience, the health
Howard Brown:experiences, and to find that spot now. And that that's that
Howard Brown:is true resiliency. I mean, you're You're a model, I'm a
Howard Brown:model of that as well. Very, very important. And I will tell
Howard Brown:you that building, you know, websites is really important
Howard Brown:because I look at that is all this social media up, you know,
Howard Brown:the home home place for these businesses is their website and
Howard Brown:a lot of people are, that's how you get your leads, it's how you
Howard Brown:actually get your revenue, it's how you do your customer
Howard Brown:support. So it becomes a very central core part and core
Howard Brown:element of a small business. And you know this, and this is what
Howard Brown:you deliver. So take me through so you, you are now doing this
Howard Brown:and very successful at it as far as what more for the small
Howard Brown:businesses? What Why is it so important that they have a very
Howard Brown:interactive, very, you know, website that actually has all
Howard Brown:the technology and all the things to be able to attract and
Howard Brown:retain customers? So take me through kind of what you tell a
Howard Brown:small business owner?
Lori Osbourne:You touched on it so well. So okay, at the I would
Lori Osbourne:say I am a techie Lord, oh, well look at you go. At the end of
Lori Osbourne:the day, our websites do need to be the hub of our business. And
Lori Osbourne:it's important to remember, social media is great. It's all
Lori Osbourne:about being seen, but you don't own social media, you don't own
Lori Osbourne:those contacts, and Facebook can shut you down, LinkedIn can shut
Lori Osbourne:you down. So your website does need to be that hug. And it does
Lori Osbourne:need to be the place where you are collecting the emails to be
Lori Osbourne:in touch with people to nurture them. And how do you do that?
Lori Osbourne:I'll be honest, not by offering a newsletter and not by offering
Lori Osbourne:a free call, those are great things. But what you want to
Lori Osbourne:offer is something that will actually help the person with
Lori Osbourne:their problems. Hopefully, they're coming to you with
Lori Osbourne:what's in it for me. So they've got a problem, and they're
Lori Osbourne:coming to you to solve it. So if you can give them one thing that
Lori Osbourne:shows them how you can solve their problem that they can
Lori Osbourne:download or watch or benefit from, then you've started the
Lori Osbourne:relationship of the know like and trust, which is what we need
Lori Osbourne:to build business today. Because you're if you're selling
Lori Osbourne:anything of high value, they're not coming to your website to
Lori Osbourne:buy it. Like then people are not coming to my website to sign up
Lori Osbourne:to buy a website, they're coming to my website to get to know
Lori Osbourne:Lorie, and how I operate and how I can help them. So I want to
Lori Osbourne:build that know, like and trust. And that's, to me, that's the
Lori Osbourne:key of the website. It's the beginning of that relationship,
Lori Osbourne:showing them how you can help them showing your knowledge. And
Lori Osbourne:and when I say that, I don't mean the 500 letters after your
Lori Osbourne:name that they don't care at all about they care about how can
Lori Osbourne:you really help me solve my problems at the end of the day,
Lori Osbourne:or make more money, which is could be part of their problem?
Lori Osbourne:However, whatever you do that solves their issues. Yeah,
Howard Brown:no, I I absolutely agree. So tell me about some of
Howard Brown:your success stories.
Lori Osbourne:You know, my favourite website is also the
Lori Osbourne:largest website I've done, but it's my favourite because it
Lori Osbourne:makes such an impact. The Department of Health in Nassau
Lori Osbourne:County, Florida, which is where I live, they decided to take
Lori Osbourne:their CDC money for opioid addiction, and build a website
Lori Osbourne:for our community. And they wanted to use community people
Lori Osbourne:to do it. So they hired me. And I got a local videographer, a
Lori Osbourne:copywriter, a photographer, a whole team. And we built this
Lori Osbourne:amazing website to address opioid addiction. There's
Lori Osbourne:education, there are 10 videos out there that are heart warming
Lori Osbourne:and heartbreaking. I mean, there's there's true stories of
Lori Osbourne:opioid addicts that have overcome it, have family members
Lori Osbourne:that have gone through it with other people. And they're all
Lori Osbourne:from our community. So it's so special, because it I have a I
Lori Osbourne:have a half brother, who is somewhere on a street somewhere
Lori Osbourne:addicted to drugs. And I'm sure we all know someone who is I
Lori Osbourne:mean, opioid pandemic is just insane. So to make that kind of
Lori Osbourne:difference, like I literally just have goosebumps right now
Lori Osbourne:just talking about it, because it it was such a special
Lori Osbourne:project. And I just loved that I was part of it.
Howard Brown:I love that project. It's local, it's deep,
Howard Brown:and it's meaningful work, and you got to architect and build
Howard Brown:it out it that's a really cool win. I appreciate that. Now,
Howard Brown:we're going to be in Book Three of the art of connection. Now,
Howard Brown:this is a topic that's very important to me. It's gratitude,
Howard Brown:gratitude. And you and I after all the stuff that we've been
Howard Brown:through, we are both still very grateful for the things that we
Howard Brown:do have the relationships we have our health now, even though
Howard Brown:it's never completely over, I can tell you that right? I have.
Howard Brown:They call it brain fog or chemo brain it's PTSD. I used to
Howard Brown:remember names, it's it just frustrates me, I'm not as good
Howard Brown:with names anymore. But emotionally I've been through so
Howard Brown:much, you know, so much chemo surgeries and just dealing with
Howard Brown:that trauma, maybe it'll come back, maybe it won't, you know,
Howard Brown:it, just the gift that keeps on giving. So I hear you on that.
Howard Brown:But gratitude is so important to be thankful for what you what
Howard Brown:you do have. And and it's important. So I can't wait to
Howard Brown:read in the Arctic connection, you know, the next book about
Howard Brown:what people are grateful for, because it's so important today,
Howard Brown:to be thankful for what you do have. And if you if you if you
Howard Brown:want something else, you can set the goals and go for it. But
Howard Brown:let's be grateful, and be gratitude for what we do have,
Howard Brown:you know, in family, in business and in health and in
Howard Brown:relationships? I agree with that. So I'm excited for that.
Howard Brown:Now, I asked this. You have some superpowers you want to share?
Howard Brown:What's your superpower, your superhero?
Lori Osbourne:You know, it's funny, my that was one of the
Lori Osbourne:first things my coach asked me three years ago, and I had no
Lori Osbourne:idea what the answer was. So I put a lot of thought into it.
Lori Osbourne:And throughout every job I've ever had, every everything I've
Lori Osbourne:ever done, what I consider my superpower is taking highly
Lori Osbourne:technical information or complex information, and breaking it
Lori Osbourne:down to where anybody can understand it. And that is a
Lori Osbourne:special thing. Not everybody can do that. And it's you know, it's
Lori Osbourne:unusual for a female to be in technology in the first place.
Lori Osbourne:And being that I've done so many different roles, I get it, and I
Lori Osbourne:get the impact on business. So I love it when I can talk to a
Lori Osbourne:small business owner and explain things that are just, you know,
Lori Osbourne:way out of, you know, some people don't want to know, and
Lori Osbourne:I'm not going to bore them if they don't want to know but
Lori Osbourne:other people like you know, I've never understood, I don't
Lori Osbourne:understand this DNS thing. You know, what is that? Or how does
Lori Osbourne:this domain thing work? And I love being able to see their
Lori Osbourne:eyes light up and go, Oh my gosh, I never understood that.
Lori Osbourne:Thank you for explaining it.
Howard Brown:I mean, you hear all the alphabet soup, SEO and
Howard Brown:all that sort of stuff search and some people don't but that
Howard Brown:is a superpower to take the complex and break it into bite
Howard Brown:sized morsels and understandable be of bits and all that stuff. I
Howard Brown:really liked that. I speak on finding your happy place. So do
Howard Brown:have a happy place. What do you do? What's your stress free
Howard Brown:zone? The
Lori Osbourne:beach. We live on actually. Well, we actually
Lori Osbourne:moved here from Colorado. And the mountains are beautiful. I
Lori Osbourne:love the mountains. But I was born in San Diego. I did not get
Lori Osbourne:to grow up there. And I've always wanted to be Bywater. And
Lori Osbourne:we are 15 minutes from the beach. And it is my zen place
Lori Osbourne:like it like it. It is it's you know the waves, the vastness the
Lori Osbourne:you know I wish we don't have sunsets on our side of Florida
Lori Osbourne:we have sunrises so I don't get to see them very often I see the
Lori Osbourne:sunsets from my backyard. But it's okay. It's still it's just
Lori Osbourne:that that beach and the waves. It's and I can go there in my
Lori Osbourne:head. If I can't be there in person I can still, you know,
Lori Osbourne:it's always been my happy place for sure. Yeah, I
Howard Brown:tell I tell people find your happy place. Mine's
Howard Brown:the basketball court. I just, I sweat it out. And it's mentally
Howard Brown:physically. It's just great because I'm with the guys and
Howard Brown:we're talking trash or sports and I don't think of anything
Howard Brown:else. I don't I don't think of being a cancer patient or
Howard Brown:survivor or anything like that. It's just great for me. And I'm
Howard Brown:so glad that you have the beach. I tell people I don't care
Howard Brown:cooking art, music, hiking, athletics, it doesn't matter
Howard Brown:meditation, find your happy place and go there in your head
Howard Brown:or go there personally as much as you can. I think that's very
Howard Brown:very important. Well, I want to do something here because we're
Howard Brown:getting close to the end here but I'm gonna do something
Howard Brown:called where's the shining brightly spotlight so I had to
Howard Brown:put on for those that are listening my metallic white
Howard Brown:sunglasses, because Laurie you're shining so brightly tell
Howard Brown:people how they can best get a hold of you. I know you have a
Howard Brown:free giveaway as well and then finish up with some inspiration,
Howard Brown:maybe a quote from the book or something. Okay,
Lori Osbourne:awesome. So please go to my website,
Lori Osbourne:baseball star.com If you go to baseball star.com forward slash
Lori Osbourne:gift dash Ford dash you so get for you. There are some great
Lori Osbourne:freebies I am offering a discount on my services if you
Lori Osbourne:mentioned this podcast when we talk but on that page, you can
Lori Osbourne:also download an SEO and website Guide to Being seen. And it's
Lori Osbourne:really tips that you can implement all by yourself to
Lori Osbourne:help you be seen more or through your website. And then you can
Lori Osbourne:also take a website quiz just to get an idea of you know, is my
Lori Osbourne:website doing what it's supposed to do, and there's an assessment
Lori Osbourne:at the end, it'll give you some feedback on how you've done. So
Lori Osbourne:yeah, go out there. And you can schedule a call with me while
Lori Osbourne:you're there. If you're interested in talking about
Lori Osbourne:anything that we've talked about here that I offer, would love to
Lori Osbourne:have a just a quick discussion.
Howard Brown:I love that I will absolutely all the show notes
Howard Brown:and all the socials will have biz bolster.com gift hyphen for
Howard Brown:hyphen U and lots of goodies there. So thank you for that.
Howard Brown:Now, maybe some inspiration a little. What do you got for me
Howard Brown:today, Lori?
Lori Osbourne:I will I will give you my quote from the last
Lori Osbourne:book and it will make a lot of sense with what we've talked
Lori Osbourne:about. So find your passion. The most rewarding work you will
Lori Osbourne:ever do is the work that aligns with your passion. And that is
Lori Osbourne:speaking from personal experience. And you know, I'm
Lori Osbourne:going to add you said that your happy place is the basketball
Lori Osbourne:court because it makes you forget everything. That's how I
Lori Osbourne:am at my desk. You know, I have chronic headaches. I have
Lori Osbourne:chronic pain from this tumour, but I can sit here and build a
Lori Osbourne:website and not even know I have pain. I get up and leave and I
Lori Osbourne:go oh boy, there's a headache. But I believe it's because I
Lori Osbourne:love so much what I do. I just tune all that out and just go in
Lori Osbourne:and I love it.
Howard Brown:Yeah, I appreciate you sharing that and I love the
Howard Brown:passion quote people go you know, get this book The Art of
Howard Brown:connection you can download the Kindle and also the new book
Howard Brown:coming out. It's probably like the third week of January the
Howard Brown:art of connection for gratitude. It's great. Thanks for being on
Howard Brown:the show. I really appreciate the one your expertise and
Howard Brown:website building and also your story of overcoming cancer and
Howard Brown:the benign brain tumour and all that. Thank you for sharing i
Howard Brown:It's just that's raw honesty and and who you are and I can't wait
Howard Brown:to share this this episode with the world. So you've been
Howard Brown:listening or watching to the shining brightly show. And I am
Howard Brown:so thrilled to be here you can reach me at shining brightly.com
Howard Brown:And obviously the book is there. My motivational speaking you can
Howard Brown:actually have my one sheet and always looking for new new gigs
Howard Brown:and other podcasts to be honest well, and the my advocacy work
Howard Brown:in cancer with entrepreneurs at Babson College and also in the
Howard Brown:interfaith world. So and I have downloads there for you
Howard Brown:discussion guides. So check that out. And I do want to add that
Howard Brown:if you choose to shoe shine brightly, just a little bit each
Howard Brown:day for ourselves, for others and for our communities and
Howard Brown:neighbourhoods, the world will become a better place. So keep
Howard Brown:shining brightly just like Lori and I did today. Thank you, Lori
Howard Brown:for being here. What a great show. Thank
Lori Osbourne:you. Thank you. Thank you very much.