Sept. 4, 2024

HUMMUS TIME With Stephen Shaya, M.D.

HUMMUS TIME With Stephen Shaya, M.D.

Episode Summary – MEET AN AUTHENTIC EXECUTIVE SERVANT LEADER! In Episode 95 of the Shining Brightly Show (links in the comments), titled “HUMMUS TIME”, I am joined by my dear and longtime friend and mentor Stephen Shaya, M.D. He reveals at one time he wanted to become a priest then he takes us through his family’s immigration story as Iraqi Christians (Chaldean) making their way to the United States where his dad of blessed memory started J+B Medical, now a global healthcare conglomerate. Stephen has been able to travel the world with his family and meet world leaders like being blessed by Pope Francis, meditate with Deepak Chopra, scolded by Michael Milken for being late and even former President Bill Clinton. He wants leaders to chase their passion to find their purpose to put human back in humanity and care back in healthcare. COME GET SOME HUMMUS WITH US. Please listen, download, share and review this very inspiring show.

Mentioned Resources –


About the guest – Stephen Shaya, M.D. is the Executive Servant Leader at J & B Medical, a global healthcare solutions company founded in 1996 by his family. In his role, he oversees all strategy, innovation, and growth of the family of companies. Under his guidance, J & B has started eighteen different business enterprises and now has customers around the world, including 48 states in the US. In addition to his role at J & B Medical, Dr. Shaya has been an active representative of his family office, Akkad Holding, which invests in healthcare platforms leveraging the company's global distribution channels. He serves on numerous boards, including the American Diabetes Association in Michigan, Citizens Rx, and Endeavor Detroit. Dr. Shaya is the recipient of several prestigious awards, including the Vatican Pontifical Hero Award and the Presidential Leadership Award. He holds a Merit Scholarship from Wayne State University and graduated Summa Cum Laude from Birmingham Brother Rice High School. He completed his medical training at North Oakland Medical Center, followed by a fellowship at Wayne State University. Dr. Shaya is a passionate advocate for innovative solutions to improve human health globally. In 2022, he delivered a talk at the World Expo in Dubai, where he spoke on how to reimagine the global medical supply chain. Dr. Shaya's commitment to driving progress in healthcare is matched by his exceptional leadership and management skills, which have made him a respected figure in the industry. 

About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Transcript
Howard Brown:

Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly



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Show. I want to give a big shout out to the 150,000 downloads and



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listeners and audience we have. I'm so grateful for you that you



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are listening and learning and making the world a better place.



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We are going to do that today. I have a dear friend of mine, like



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a big brother like a mentor, Stephen Shaya.



Stephen Shaya:

How are ya.



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so glad all the way from San Diego today? So



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he's buying we're bicoastal. So it's amazing. I moved to



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Michigan from Silicon Valley in about 2005. And somewhere in



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2005, and six, I met Steven, and he's just such a person that I



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admire. He does so much good in this world. And we're going to



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talk about that today. So Stephen, let me just brag about



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you if you'll give me that honor. And I know you're very



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humble and you hate this, but bear with me for a minute okay?



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Stephen Shaya MD is an executive servant leader. I love that a



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Jambi medical global healthcare solutions company founded in



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1996 by his family. In your role, you oversee all the



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strategy and innovation and growth of the family companies.



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And under your guidance, Jambi has started 18 different



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business enterprises and has customers around the world. This



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is incredible. In addition to your role at JMP, you're an



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active representative in the family office called Akkad



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holdings. And you invest in health care platforms, and



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you're trying to actually make a difference in global



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distribution channels. It's quite amazing. You have a lot of



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board appointments, I'll name a few American Diabetes



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Association of Michigan citizens RX and endeavor. You have a



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whole bunch of awards that you've been awarded for the



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great example and the work that you do, Steve, and I'll just



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mentioned two of them. The Vatican pontifical Hero Award



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and the presidential leadership award. Unbelievable. Yeah, as we



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say in Judaism, it's a match your match. Lastly, you're an



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advocate for innovative solutions to improve the human



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health globally. And you delivered a talk about at the



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World Expo in Dubai, we're going to get into that a little bit.



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You spoke about how to reimagine the global medical supply chain,



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which at times has been broken as healthcare. But your



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commitment to driving progress in healthcare is matched by your



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leadership and your management, making the world a better place.



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I'm so thrilled to have you here and excited to chop it up a



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little bit with you. But before we do that, tell me something



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that people may not know about you different that you want to



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share.



Stephen Shaya:

One thing that very few of anyone knows is



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before I went into the medical field, I was considering



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becoming a priest, which I now my mother, my mother laughs that



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now she probably you know, she she kind of teases me about it.



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Because I probably need to go to confession on a daily basis for



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for all the activities. But no, I think God made me an



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evangelist at heart. Somehow I ended up in the medical arena,



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but that's something that very few of anyone knows.



Howard Brown:

Well, thank you for sharing that. And also



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people don't you know exactly, you know, your, your Iraqi



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Christian, as we know Cal Dean from California, and it's a very



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special group of folks and a lot in Southern California a lot in



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Michigan. And, you know, I play basketball with a bunch of



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Chaldean guys all the time and Jewish and Chaldeans. We're



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brothers from different mothers. And it's just a beautiful thing.



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So tell us a little bit about your background. Because, you



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know, before you got into some of this, you were even



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delivering babies. So tell us about you know, a little bit



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about your background.



Stephen Shaya:

So, my mother and father immigrated from Iraq. My



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mother was one of 12 children. When number 12 was in utero, my



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maternal grandfather passed away in a freak accident. So my



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maternal grandmother deliver, she took care of 12 children all



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on her own. And I gotta tell you, Howard, I have three



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children. So someone having 12 is, is just mind numbing to me,



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someone wants said to me, seven takes you to have it. I don't



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know what 12 takes you to but probably someplace good to



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support the family. She was a midwife, and she delivered 1000s



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and 1000s of babies and to support the family and because



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they didn't have a hospital nearby, and it was pretty



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interesting because a lot of the folks didn't have means and she



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would barter with them. She'd deliver their child and they'd



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give her basket of food or they provide some service. But it



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didn't matter if you were Christian or Jewish. Muslim or



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what faith. She showed great love to all. And it is kind of



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surreal when I run into folks say hey, you know your



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grandmother delivered me. So that was kind of a little bit of



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a surreal surreal thing. She brought all 12 children to the



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US, literally, they had everything they owned on them,



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they sold all their possessions, and they bought gold. And they



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put all the they had each one of them are securing a gold



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bracelet when they came to the US. So they literally some



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people say you have you know, something on your back, they had



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every thing that they they own materially was was on the wrist.



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But one thing I remember my my grandmother, she had a servant's



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heart. She got so much joy Howard from giving. And, and she



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didn't have much materially but the richness that she had



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powered from giving from serving is something that left left an



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indelible mark on me. My father, my late father, was the same he



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came from a very large family, he came to the US under duress,



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political challenges. He got off the plane, he got four jobs. He



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worked while he went to University of Michigan. So I



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grew up in a family that we didn't have much materially, but



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we were rich and family. We were rich and spirit and we're rich



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where it mattered. And in so going into medicine, was kind of



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an extension of both my grandmother and my father's. He



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went to Michigan, he became a physician. And then he opened



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his own medical lab and, and my grandmother, of course,



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delivering babies. So it kind of you know, they were both cut



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from the same cloth. They had that Servant's Heart servant



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leadership, and I decided to go into medicine, graduated from



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Wayne State Medical School in 1996. And went to work with my



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father in a place called Jean de medical, he had just sold his



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medical lab. And he was retired for about five weeks. And my



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mother said, you know, you probably need to go do



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something. So he couldn't get back into the lab business. She



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basically kicked him out of the house. That's the the kind of



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the real scoop, you can you can catch it a little differently.



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But so he couldn't get back in the lamp business because a non



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compete so he started this company called gene B. Now



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people ask me all the time, well, what is J B stand for? I



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was in Kentucky a few years ago, and I said I'm with J B. And



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everyone got excited. They thought were the scotch whiskey



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and unfortunately, we're not that good. But j stands for my



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brother Julian who had a health issue when he was younger, and



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he was miraculously treated. And then one of my uncle's in my



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grandfather were named Bashir. My middle name is Bashir. So my



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dad just said JB, and it's funny over the years, Howard, many



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people have come in and said, Well, maybe we should change the



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name. And you know, my late father always be like, I've



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never changing that it has a lot of sentimental meaning, even



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though it sounds very simple to us. And today, we have different



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business enterprises globally. And, and it's been it's been an



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incredible, incredible journey, if you don't believe in miracles



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come to j and b.



Howard Brown:

Yeah, it's what a great story, the immigrant



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story, the hard work, but the love from the family and the



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passion. And that drove you to become going into medicine as



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well. And you have delivered some babies, right. And you do



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have delivered about 100 babies in my career as



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a family practice physician. You spent a lot of time delivering



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babies. For the record, I didn't deliver my three children 11,



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nine and seven, probably for very, very good reason.



Howard Brown:

I know it. Well, let's step into some of your



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travels, one of your passions is to travel and experience the



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world as it is. So take me through some travels. Where do



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you want to start?



Stephen Shaya:

Wow, that's a loaded question. So let's start



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with in 2016. We, my family and I went to the Vatican. And for



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those of you that haven't been to the Vatican, it is an



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extraordinary place. It is the smallest country in the world a



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little factoid. Another factoid is it's got the highest crime



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rate in the world. You wouldn't think of that in the Vatican,



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but they only have 1000 people that live there. So it is, you



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know, percentage wise, it's got the highest crime rate, which I



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always find comical. The other thing about the Vatican is that



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it has got the most consumption of wine per capita in the world.



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Again, they only have 1000 people that actually are



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citizens there so it's a little skewed but going there as Seeing



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the Sistine Chapel, seeing, you know, the just the divine



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brilliance of Michelangelo. It's it's incredible in the Sistine



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Chapel, we had a chance to see edge who's part of YouTube and



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his father had just died. And he was the first contemporary



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artists who play in the Sistine Chapel. And it literally brought



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tears to my eyes. He was doing an homage to his father and I



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met him and oh my gosh, he was just incredible. And I'm a big



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YouTube fan. So that was special. We also had the



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opportunity and privilege to meet Pope Francis. And that day,



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my son, Grayson got kissed by Pope Francis, and also got



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kissed by then Vice President Biden that exact same day so



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it's a Mount Rushmore for something. I don't know what but



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grace is certainly, you know, very fortunate lucky. Gavin was



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named his namesake is Pope Francis. So it's Gavin Francis



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Shi'a. And so, it was quite an amazing trip. We met people from



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around the world, the biggest of the big and it didn't matter



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what religion what race what you did, it's the Vatican is a very



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special place somehow, some way. Everyone kind of put their egos



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at the door even just for a couple hours and and you felt



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you were part of something bigger than yourself. So that's



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kind of one trip that I'll never forget. And we're currently



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working with the Vatican on on many initiatives. So it's, it's



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been very special Catholic Church has a lot of issues. But



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nobody houses close feeds, educates reverberate provides



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more health care globally in the Catholic Church. So something



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that gets lost and stuff. So so that was, that was definitely



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one, I think, very special trip.



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receivers. Why you why you wait, why you think of



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that I actually have been to the Vatican and the Sistine Chapel.



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But I went in the Jubilee Year of 2000, they cleaned the place



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up like crazy, it was unbelievable. I got to go to



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Israel, and then on to Italy, and like all over Italy, but I



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really enjoyed it. It's really a tremendous that just the art in



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itself, but just the presence, the feeling. It was incredible.



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I will tell you that so I didn't get to meet the Pope. But I



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still the feeling was just incredible. So I'm so glad you



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shared that what what else you want to share, show



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another trip that I think was memorable, because I



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the trips that are memorable are always with the families and,



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and someone told me once he's like, you know, my children



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didn't remember anything. I bought them. They didn't



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remember a whole lot of what I did for him, but but they



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remember the family trips. So that's something you know, as I



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was having children, my children, our 11, nine and seven



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kind of, I always remembered, so we went to Lake Nona a couple



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years ago, I believe it was 2022 now, and and we got a chance to



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meet a bunch of a bunch of very interesting people. Of course,



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if you haven't been to Lake Nona, it is unbelievable.



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They're building like the city of the future. Some of the folks



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that we had an opportunity to meet were number one, Deepak



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Chopra, and I had never actually spent time with him, I had a



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chance to, to spend time with him, my whole family meditated



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with him. And just an amazing, inspiring person, so humble, you



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know, somebody that that, you know, just incredible, like how



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he can bring people together, he has a very calming presence



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about him. And he really opened my eyes to, you know, we look at



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everyone looks at things in certain lens. And, you know, the



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way that you know, his his tapping into, you know, higher



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energies, higher frequencies, spirituality. I mean, it's just,



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it was so inspiring. And I still have a really cute picture of my



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kids meditating with Deepak, and it's something, something that



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I'll never forget. And, and then on that same trip, we also had



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the opportunity to meet Bill Clinton. And that was the day



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I'll never forget, because that was the same day that a bill



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that Russia invaded Ukraine. And not only do we have a chance to



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meet Bill Clinton, but to listen to the guys speak for over an



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hour from no notes, no teleprompter. I have to tell you



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how we're regardless of any, you know, political lens, just



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hearing someone with such depth of knowledge. You know, was was,



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I was like, wow, this is like, you know, when you look at



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leaders, you're like, you know, you want someone like him at the



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helm. Whether it's a company or a country or I mean, he was just



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really, really inspiring. And then another one more recently



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was last May. I personally had a chance to go to the Milken



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global conference I'd never been, I'd become very good



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friends with Michael Milken. But to see that guy in action to



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see, I mean, talk about one of the quintessential dealmakers of



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our time to see the amount of people that he brought in, a lot



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of people don't know, the 78 people that worked with Michael



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Milken are not billionaires, you know, to see a guy, you know,



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obviously, everyone knows he had, you know, issues as well.



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And to see him pivot from that, and to see what he's done. And



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to see this global ecosystem, where they're, they're taking on



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some of the most daunting challenges of our time. I mean,



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talk about humbling, talk about inspiring, just tell you a quick



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story about that. I'm walking in to the conference on Sunday, and



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he's got like, 30 people around him, and I'm walking, just



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getting there going to register, and he sees me and he comes and



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gives me a hug. He's like, Shi'a, what, what the hell are



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you doing, you're supposed to be in this lecture right now. Like,



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oh, my gosh, the guy has 1000s of people 1000s 1000s of people



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to egg somehow he knew where I was supposed to be at two



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o'clock Sunday afternoon, it was mind numbing, I just literally



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floored me, but you know, he just someone I admire immensely,



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and, and what he put together to bring people together, which in



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our time, in our very complicated world these days,



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you know, you know, to bring people together and to talk,



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and, and, you know, you know, talk about ways that we can



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elevate humanity. You know, Michael is very inspiring to me.



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For for everything he's done, so that, that three of many, many,



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many.



Howard Brown:

So one of the things that I admire is that



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when you meet people, you actually are learning about



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them. And they're human. All right, they've all fall down, we



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all get back up again, right? We're not perfect. We are human,



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we make mistakes. And what would you say that the qualities of



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good people and good leaders are, you've met so many.



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So something that's very important to me



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today is authenticity. I think when you find somebody that



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really is coming from the right place, really doing something



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that's in their DNA, it's kind of, you know, something that God



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has meant him to do. I think it's, you can tell and, and, you



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know, it's inspiring. Someone once said to me, if you chase



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your passion, you find your purpose. And those people, those



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people that that chase their passion, find their purpose. I



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think, you know, when you find it, and one thing, you know,



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lesson learned with that life's not easy. As you know, Howard,



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look at all the things challenges you've had to who to



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face and, but when you find your passion, and those tough moments



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come, you know, you can weather the storm, whether it's a



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business, whether it's a relationship, you know, you



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know, whatever it may be, and if you're not passionate, you know



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about something, you know, or someone or when those tough



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moments come, they'll crumble. So I think that's really



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important, it's part of your journey is to really, you know,



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find your purpose and, and I end for me, you know, it's been



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making healthcare affordable, and accessible to as many people



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globally as we can, that's, that's what God meant me to do.



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It manifests in the opportunity to meet a lot of folks and



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travel a lot of places and do many things. But the core of it



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is when you provide access to affordable accessible health



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care to as many people as you can be put the care back in



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health care, you put the human back in humanity and so I it



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took me a while to kind of figure that out. But once I have



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it really has taken myself and everything my family does and



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everything our company does to a whole nother level. So I think



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those purpose driven people and companies and organizations,



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they will be ready for whatever the world throws at them.



Howard Brown:

We love it the human back in humanity the care



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back in health care. You're a man on a mission and you know



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we're the shining brightly movement is with you and



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together that's what we want to do. We want to lift up others



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First of all, you got to lift up yourself, but lift up others and



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make the world a better place. And we can do that we can do it



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together it there are people in need all over the place,



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including, you know, right here in our own backyard and Michigan



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and in the United States and things like that. So, I believe,



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what are the big things that you're looking forward to? You



Howard Brown:

know, now that we're through the pandemic, and we're getting back



Howard Brown:

to some normalcy? What are some of the big things that you want



Howard Brown:

to accomplish coming forward?



Stephen Shaya:

So with our company, I will start there,



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because that's a big part of our life, we've been on this



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journey, a journey of transformation from kind of a



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products company, to one of the preeminent companies providing



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products and services to patients in the homes, to to a



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population health company. So measure managing and optimizing



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large populations of folks around the globe, and doing it



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in a very unique way. So for example, one thing that we found



Stephen Shaya:

is working with minorities and working with underserved



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underprivileged folks and training them to take care of



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their own, you get better outcomes. And and you really



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start breaking the cycle. So there's a lot of medical data



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that shows that underserved populations when taken care of



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by their own folks, they do much better. So the we're, I'm in



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development, and we're leveraging technology and



Stephen Shaya:

innovation, I'll say gene B 2.0, or jnb. Three point, point O is



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really our most important attributes from a business



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perspective, our, our, our data or our technology, AI. And so



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we've really taken the home health arena, from a proverbial



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eight track tape to a proverbial iPhone. So you know, we're very



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proud of taking this antiquated marketplace, and really



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modernizing it. But ultimately, Howard, at the end of the day,



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it's all about people. It's all about trust. And so people say



Stephen Shaya:

What's your most valuable asset, and I always say, it's our



Stephen Shaya:

relationships. And there's the five ships relationship,



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fellowship, friendship, partnership, discipleship, and



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we have a partnership discipleship level relationship



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with a lot of key people. I was at an event recently hosted by



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Lucas Walton, you know, his family started Walmart, and he



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said something to me, that's just been, you know, I think



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about every day he's like, you know, Steven, you know, change,



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elevating humanity moves at the speed of trust. And I was like,



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Wow, it's so true. Because at the end of the day, that human



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element is so important. And I'm actually listening to a book now



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from Stephen Covey moving at the speed of trust. And it just,



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it's, we can never lose that personal element. And that's



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something today, Howard, that's lacking. You know, everyone



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wants to do the deal. So many things are so transactional in



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our world today. But don't people don't focus on building



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trust. They don't focus on that. And, and I think that that is



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something that is needed. You know, the more trust you have,



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the faster you can go. So that's why moving at the speed of



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trust, it just, it's something that's been I've been thinking



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about every day, since since Lucas told me about this over a



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month ago and something I wanted. Yeah.



Howard Brown:

You went so fast. Give me the partnership.



Howard Brown:

discipleship. Give me the five ships.



Stephen Shaya:

Oh, okay. friendship, fellowship.



Stephen Shaya:

Partnership. We friendship, fellowship, partnership,



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discipleship.



Howard Brown:

I love it. I love it. Thank you, when so fast, I



Howard Brown:

know, the audience needs to hear it and i Repeating It's okay.



Howard Brown:

Well now. So I again, I want you to put on your sunglasses for me



Howard Brown:

here because we have to shine brightly together. Because this



Howard Brown:

show is really just a tease about you. And all you do and



Howard Brown:

all the good work of the family office and JB medical, so we're



Howard Brown:

gonna shine brightly and put the spotlight on you, Steven, tell



Howard Brown:

people how they should best get a hold of you, and then share



Howard Brown:

some wisdom and some inspiration as we close out the show.



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So to get a hold of me, if you use LinkedIn, you



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can you can send me an invite to Stephen Shaya MD and that's Ste



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pH en Shaya MD. Or you can follow me at my family office



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Akkad holdings akk ad holdings were Iraqi Christians. And the



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kidding Empire was the first empire in Mesopotamia and they



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were the great connectors of their time. So that's how we



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that's how we came up with that name. So LinkedIn is a very good



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way. If you use Instagram, it's a at Dr. Swamy, which is, which



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is Swami was my nickname and all through my, my schooling years



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long story for a different day. And then of course, we also have



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Akkad holdings on on, you know, all the all the different you



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can just go to Akkad holdings and follow us whether it's on



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Instagram or Facebook or, or whatever, whatever sites there



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but again, you know the words of wisdom, I just want to just go



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back again, chase your passion to find your purpose, find out



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what really gets you energized, what gets you excited, you know,



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you know, it's not about making money i To me, it's about



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finding that thing, you know, that divine, you know, tapping



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into that divine DNA and, and in and seeing what, what, what



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really can, you know, energize you every day. And I think if



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you find that you can you can park the Red Sea, and I really



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believe that and, and I hope everyone does. I welcome any



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conversations with anyone. And and, you know, the other thing



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is, you know, if you look in the world, it's easy to you know,



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find negative negative things in the world, you know, looking the



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good and people looking the good in situations, nobody's perfect.



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And we're all divine beings on a human journey. And we've got to



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remember that we're all kind of going through our own journey,



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our own challenges. And, and I think at the end of the day, if



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we search for good, we'll find it and if you search for



Stephen Shaya:

something else, that's what you're gonna find. So



Howard Brown:

wow, I gotta take my glasses off. And thank you so



Howard Brown:

much for, as you'd like to say sharing some homeless today we



Howard Brown:

shared homeless, it's we I love doing that with you. So I'm



Howard Brown:

going to close out the show. You've been listening and



Howard Brown:

watching the shining, brightly, podcast show. Thank you. Again,



Howard Brown:

I want to shout out to the people that make me look great,



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which is financial publishing. Read the spirit magazine every



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Monday going out to over 50,000 My amplify you is my podcast



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house. They're amazing. And diamond moments magazine, that



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is teachers we every week, I'm sorry every month, but just a



Howard Brown:

great show. Thank you, Steven, I look forward to making hummus



Howard Brown:

with you in the future and just Godspeed to you and your family



Howard Brown:

and all that you're doing to make the world a better place.



Howard Brown:

And remember, if we choose to shine brightly, we become a



Howard Brown:

force multiplier for good and positive change in this world.



Howard Brown:

You can do it. Come join Stephen and I thank you