Episode Summary – A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR GOOD AND POSITVE CHANGE! In Episode 85 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (links in the comments), titled COMPASSION IS IN FASHION, I welcome Ali Horriyat. He left the world of finance and hedge fund management in 2016 for a life of social impact, activism, influence and action to make the world and society a better place. His global movement is called COMPASSIVISTE (compassionate / activist). Wait till you hear about the OCTOPUS MODEL he has developed from parts of history to shape the social harmony for the arts, environment, children’s and animal rights and that is just the tip of the iceberg. He has authored 14 books and offers publishing services too. Come check out this powerful show. Please listen, download, share and review. Ali believes “LOVE ALWAYS AND ALWAYS LOVE” and so do I!
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About the guest –
Compassiviste’s Founder Ali Horriyat left the lucrative, profit-driven world of finance in 2016 to devote himself to his vision of a society where compassion, empathy, and social impact are at the heart of our actions. In 2020, he launched Compassiviste to spread this vision. Born in Dubai, he attended schools in the UAE, France and Switzerland before pursuing his higher education in Canada. He holds undergraduate and graduate degrees in economics, political science, philosophy, business, international relations and conflict resolution, and religion. Ali is the author of 14 books, including collections of essays and poetry, with themes ranging from racism and capitalism to spirituality, love and compassion. He believes that humans must “love always, and always love.”
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Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.
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Hello, it's Howard brown. It's the shining,
brightly show. Oh my god, we have a great one today. It's
titled compassion is in fashion. And you are going to meet one
extraordinary human. And I just met him, Ali, how are you?
I'm doing well, thank you for having me here.
I'm thrilled to have you, I just have to tell
you that in learning more about you, and spending time with you,
you have had such a great life, which we're going to talk about,
but you are a purpose driven human. And I absolutely love
that because your whole purpose is lifting up others and lifting
people up, and you call it in love. And we're going to talk
more about that. But I just I'm so glad to have you here. We got
a very high energy show. And we're going to share a lot about
your what your passion project is and what your life is about,
as well. So let me let me share people about you a little bit
here and stuff. From your bio. So compassionate, he's the
founder, Ali Hurriyat left the lucrative profit driven world of
finance in 2016, to devote himself to his vision of society
where compassion, empathy, social impact are at the heart
of his actions. In 2020, right, probably before the pandemic, he
launched compassion visa, to spread his vision. He was born
in Dubai, he had defended, attended schools in the UAE, and
in France and in Switzerland. So he's a world traveller. He also
actually did higher education in Canada. So he has an
undergraduate and graduate degrees in economics, political
science, philosophy, business, international relations, and
conflict resolution plus religion. Wow. This is amazing.
Ali, you are the author of 14 books and two more on the way,
including a collection of essays and poetry. And the themes range
from racism to capitalism, spirituality, loving compassion.
And here's the bottom line you believe that humans must love
always and always love, love that quote, Wow, impressive. But
here's the question, how do you shine brightly every day?
I think I tell myself every day that I have to
do something that is purposeful, that is a part of a legacy work.
And to me legacy is not about I need to do something to be
remembered in history or anything like that legacy to me
is, when you look back at your life, how proud are you? Are you
have every moment that you can remember? And how much does
every one of these moments, reflect on your surroundings? So
that is a measure I take with me every day, you know, and I'm a
social person, so I could be out. And I could speak to
strangers, you know, friends, whatever it may be myself
thinking loudly about how can I make an impact where I am, you
know, whether I'm in Dubai, whether I'm in London, whether
I'm in Canada, wherever I may be in the world, wherever I'm based
in a community at that moment, I need to always make an impact
because and I thought about this in this way, I thought, I asked
people generally, you know, who was the wealthiest person in
1994, not a lot of people will remember, you know, the Forbes
list of 1994 or 2004, or 1974. But you go back into what do you
remember of people who touched you who moved to you, and some
examples come up. And you notice those examples, were not about,
you know, the best musician or the best song of the year or the
richest person or the or any of that stuff, it's always about
how you felt connected through that person, how the
relationship built through that person and how that person was a
value added in the world. Those are the people will really
remember the Super Value Added people in the world. So every
day, I tell myself, Ally, today you got to shine today, you got
to be a Super Value Added person. And then I go through
the data say I could have done better and then the next day
starts over
and you get to do it all over again. Well, that's
the soul of shining brightly is to lift up others okay and make
the world a better place. So, you and I are extremely aligned
and and passionate and devoted to that. So alright, the name
what is what is compassionate visa.
So capacities, that name came to me when I left
when I left my work, so to speak in 2016. As he said, I took
about, you know, a few years of just travelling and finding
myself and trying to think of what is my purpose, what can be
my purpose. And during that time I realised, you know, compassion
is the driving force in the world, you know, and passion as
part of compassion is the driving force. And then I
thought to myself, Okay, I could be very compassionate. I could
see homeless people on the road and cry. As I'm passing by in a
bus or a car or walking or whatever, I could be very
compassionate towards animals and feel really bad that they,
you know, they're getting slaughtered. But I'm not doing
anything about it. So what's the point of that compassion,
whether I am compassionate or not without the action, that
makes no difference I need to perform so that my compassion
manifests. And so I realised, that is what activism is
activism isn't necessarily, you know, placards and standing in
front of embassies and yelling, because that just creates a lot
of tension and violence and misunderstanding and
miscommunication. You know, there's a time in place for
peaceful protest, but it's not everyday and it's not all the
time. And it's not when it turns violent. And it's not when
you're obstructing others freedoms. So I thought there
must be a better way to be an activist. And then to me
activism became your personal actions that can reflect those
values that you see and compassion in your own
compassion. And to use that activism, use your actions, so
to speak, to play out loudly, what you're thinking and what
you're going through emotionally. And I said,
perfect. I know of some very historical people like that, you
know, Moses, Jesus, mom, these are names that come up, you
know, when you think about Gandhi, Mandela, you know,
Martin Luther King, mother, Teresa, Teresa. Yeah, you know,
the list goes on, but it's not. We don't have an act. Thinking
about and I say, what do you call these people, because some
people call them activists, some people, you know, there's so
many names, but just and it's just one name that all of them
started out out of compassion. I mean, when we talk Gandhi, the
guy was in London, had his law firm was doing okay, but he's
looking back at his country saying, This isn't good I feel
for my country, and it drove him back home, to perform his
action, so to speak. So that's when I put the words compassion
and activist together, and it said, Come pacifist. And that
was the beginning of the work. Then I kept looking at the word
and I said, this words not complete for me, come pacifist.
And then I'm multilingual. And I'm very, very, very grateful to
all the people in my life who caused that because in English,
we don't have a gender in our language differentiation, like a
book is a book, it's not a sheet. It's not a he, you know,
we say our book, we don't say he book. But for example, in
French, you know, a car, what you have is law, it's a sheet,
she car, she vehicle, so to speak, it's not, you know, the,
and so I started thinking about compassion. And I thought,
compassion comes from that universal, nurturing, feeling,
you know, what we call mother nature, and what every mother
is, you know, it comes from that feminine power within
everybody's ability. And I think it's embedded in our DNA. And we
have compassion within us. And I think two examples, like, you
know, the easiest meal one can have is a new newborn, because,
you know, the newborn is, you know, comes out, and boom, you
can eat it. But we don't do that. And most animals don't do
that. And the reason is, we have compassion, to nurture, to raise
to support to help, you know, to expand this horizon of love that
we have communally. And so I thought to myself, That's
exactly it. Compassion is when I'm at my most feminine power.
And that gave me this concept of thinking, you know, what, I see
the physical sexes, you know, there are differences in the
bodies, you know, one can be impregnated and have a child and
the other one cannot I see those differences. But in gender, I'm
also starting to realise why we have all these, you know,
hundreds of different genders now, because every time we move
each day from one place to another, in that emotion, we
want to label it. So today, I may feel my feminine powers
coming on. So I want to label myself in some way and that
gender tomorrow may be very masculine, what I'm doing, I
want to label myself and their gender. But if I don't label at
all and I say I can be the entire spectrum as required,
then where does capacity sit in it, and it requires an E at the
end because that e is the feminine II of the Latin based
languages, for example, and you also get that in Arabic and the
Aramaic languages because all of them have the feminine and
masculine as well, you know, Hebrew, Arabic all of those
languages. So, the E was added in to the capacities which
starts with a T and then it became pacifist, in that way of
pronunciation. And it became complete for me because it is
compassion with action that is based In that motherly nurturer
of the universe, the way it's created, the way its functions,
the way it takes care of us, our environment, the sun, all all of
those things that, you know, we take for granted in the world,
they are all part of the nurturing of how we survive. I
mean, yeah, the sun right behind you shining brightly. That's
right, you know, that's what it is, it starts from there without
the sun's energy without the sun's nurture the sun's mother
leanness without the sun's love, there is no earth the way we
know it. I
want to tell you that so when I when I met you,
and not now thank you for that definition, because it's, you
know, basically you put the words together, and it has deep,
deep meaning. But just like in chapter one of my book, my 101
year old, Orthodox Jewish grandmother said, to choose
kindness, and then to choose gratitude and choose healing and
choose giving and choose not to hate, and they all have to have
actions. Okay? Positivity is nice, but plus tau is activity
with action is more powerful compassion with action. So thank
you for that. Now, in my research, I looked up and you
actually designed capacities as an octopus. Why? Why an octopus?
That's just, it's interesting.
Okay, so when I started capacities, you know,
the idea was that social movement to bring people
together and assign some actions to this compassion so that it
can, you know, move somewhere, so they can be purposeful to
something to have some yields, in a sense, and manifestation.
And then I thought, okay, how do you do this, you know, I can't
just stand up in the middle of a park and say, hey, people come
join me in you know, capacities is going to make changes in the
world, I need to provide people with certain programmes, certain
things to be involved in so that this can happen certain avenues.
And, you know, I had personal experiences that guided me
towards these arms that you know, the tentacles, so to speak
of the octopus, but essentially, I thought, the octopus fits
really well, because the octopus has this large brain and its
head. And each tentacle has a little brain. And each one of
those tentacles works through the little brain to perform the
action that maximises the benefit of the entire organism,
which is the entire octopus. And now, from my philosophical
education, I, you know, fell on to spinosus philosophy. And he,
back in a long time ago, you know, he got excommunicated for
this idea. But he basically from the Jewish community in the
Netherlands, then he basically turned around and said, you
know, everything's got, everything's one, everything's
connected, you know, everything's literally one. And
so I thought, imagine the entire planet, all the life in the
entire plant, all those brains, all that consciousness being
one, that is the octopus, and each of us is a tentacle is an
extension. And these programmes, they become the attributes where
these extensions connect to. So, for example, say you are a
writer, and you have a book, and you say, You know what, instead
of going to x and y publisher, or to sell my rights away to
some other publisher, or publishing, you know, self
publishing, and going through all the loops of trying to get
my book out there and my message out there, I'm going to join
capacities publishing, as one of those people who's bringing
energy to that one tentacle, we're going to put the book out
from there, the proceeds are going to help the entire
organism and it will develop the world into the better place that
we want it to give in those platforms, to people. So that's
just one example out of you know,
I love the octopus, because I think of my
Hindu brothers and sisters that talk about many gods but one
supreme being all contributing to the greater greater good.
Now, you listen, you are a very successful hedge fund manager.
And now you've decided to kind of just help the world. And so
what is the future that you aspire to what's Where's where's
the the little gains and the large end games here.
I was always a visionary. When I when I started
in the finance game. I never was satisfied with working as you
know, high ranking executive in any of the firm's or any of the
banks or anything like that. I was always shooting for the sky
because I thought, hey, you know, so and so did it. They
started right around where I was like, why am I going to go and
work somewhere for $80,000 a year when, you know, this could
be me. And I was always ambitious, and I was financially
driven that you know, that was really that was the main
motivator. So I went after it. I got to, you know, places that
finance I didn't, I didn't even expect to get to those places.
And I did. And now when I turned back, I say to myself, once a
winner, you know, you can always win because you know that you
won once, it doesn't matter what it was at what game it was at
what practice it was at what finals it was, you know, you
want once and you know, you have a need to win again, this time,
I want to dedicate the win to making the world a better place.
So where does capacities kind of sit back and say we
accomplished? I think never, because what I want is that
visionary space of a world without suffering a world with
minimal suffering a world that is not suffering, because of us
making the suffering, in a sense. So that would be ideal.
Now, what is realistic, what is, you know, the places that I say,
okay, for example, this is what pays the rent, we need to hit
that milestone, at least, those realistic arms is seeing
progress in the world. So if our programmes are actually bringing
benefit to the people we're trying to help to the globe,
we're trying to help to the aspects that we're trying to re
envision in a sense, then I start beginning to feel
satisfied in a sense and content that we're moving in the right
direction.
It's such a noble goal. And again, it aligns with
the shining brightly movement, right, is to make the world a
better place. And you have actually emphasised the arts.
Why is that?
So the arts for me, are the reflection of you
know, the arts is the reflection of society. So, in a sense, you
go back to Leonardo da Vinci, and you know, he had a sketch of
a helicopter. You know, and you think about that, like, how,
how, how do you come up with that? Right? And you think it's
the arts, it's the imagination is the expression of the
imagination, he put his imagination on paper? And then
he thought, How do I get this done? Well, that took a few 100
years. But you know, we kept growing towards our imagination
to realise our imagination. You know, some people watch Star
Trek, decades ago, there was no concept of space travel, then it
was an imaginary thing. I think 50 years from now, will be very
normal for some people to have space travel. So, you know, the
arts always precedes what really manifests and what happens in
every creation, invention, you think about any invention, any
creation, any step forward, and you realise it was through the
expression of some form of the arts, one medium of art that
began that movement, and then it went into its sciences it went
into its, you know, mathematics and all these other things to
become realised even Einstein was imagining theories imagining
concepts before he tried to get it out into its physics
components and understand them, which is how he saw the
universe.
I know it's incredible that imagination is
you know, becomes an again a helicopter, you know, many many
years later, but we're talking right now over video
communications, that you know, when I grew up as a young boy,
you grew up in it that didn't exist. So you know, things are
advancing now. What is what is the game plan to roll this out?
Because you advocating for children and animal and
environmental and complete social harmony? What's, what's
the game? What's the immediate game plan moving forward from
today. So
the game plan moving forward from today is
simple. We have capacities up now people can join people can
become a part of it, people can bring their value to capacities,
essentially, whether they're coming in in any of the arms of
capacities, whether they're coming in at the foundation
level, they want to donate, they want to participate. They want
to say, Hey, I'm a writer, I have a book, I have a story to
tell, I need a platform ally, how do we work this? You know,
how do we get involved in this space or music and all the other
arts that we have on our website. The point is to get
this out there now. We have something special up our
sleeves, which we're launching next year, it's going to be
real, the you know, the real show, essentially, when that
comes out, it will open the floodgates for people to really
be engaged with capacities then we have some programmes, you
know, from our TV programme and other things, our carbon
labelling programme, all of those that are starting out this
year. And we're really putting all of our might sort of speak
into our events. And that event is going to be the catalyst for
change in the world on a global scale. It's a very, you know,
ambitious project. It's a large project, but I think that's
what's needed in the world today. There are a lot of
movements, a lot of people who are trying to do a little bit on
their own and I think this is where that octopus comes
together. This is where, you know, the big brain sits and
says, Okay, we're home, the organisms healthy. And now we
can really grow. And that's really what we're pushing for.
So the more people join, the more people become a part of
this, the more, we start spreading what we're doing over
the next few months, and, you know, telling people what we're
going to do over the next year, there'll be a lot of excitement
moving forward.
This, this is an incredible movement, I am so
glad that that we are collaborating and connecting and
communicating and working together. Because we this is a
lot of work to do. And you're putting the infrastructure for
it to do that on such a big scale. And I'm just proud to
proud to know you. So I'd like you to put on some sunglasses
for a second, we're going to actually do the shining,
brightly spotlight, because this is the short show. And let's put
on glasses. Oh, you're yet we are shining the spotlight on
you. Please tell people how they should get in touch with you. I
know that you have books coming out and two new ones, but
they'll find you on where to find you on your books, but then
share some inspiration with us. And then I'll kick it over to me
to close out the show.
So you can find us capacities is a unique word. So
add capacities is where you'll find us on all our socials and
capacities.com is the grand website inside of which you will
find tabs to the publishing house, the foundation, the other
programmes that we have there. And that's the easiest way to
get to know capacities. And I think the one thing I want to
tell people and leave people with is love always always love
which means every and this I learned from Buddhism, you know
your modular mind every time you want to make a decision, keep
the compassion module in, don't trade it for the capitalist
module. Don't trade it for the aggression module. Don't trade
it for the fear, fight module. None of those things always keep
your compassion module on and remember to always love until
actions based in love. Thank you for having me. Amazing.
Oh, it's absolutely what a great movement
people we're going to spread the word. People need to learn about
it and and step in and help us move move mountains together.
It's incredible. So this has been the shining brightly show,
you can obviously reach me Howard Brown, you're Mr. shining
brightly at shining brightly.com And the book and my speaking
gigs and also the podcasts are there. But most importantly, my
advocacy, what I care about and you know all I care about
mentorship and entrepreneurship leadership, and I care about
making the world a better place and of course, the cancer world
as well. Let me thank a few folks that got me here. The
publishing house financial publishing, read the spirit.com
where I blog twice a month, and my podcasts finishing houses
amplify you they're amazing. They make me look good every
week. And a shout out to the folks that Colin town as well.
So just remember, as we've discussed here today, okay. If
you choose to shine brightly each day by taking action, we
learned that today, right for yourself, and then go lift up
others in your neighbourhoods in your communities, the world will
absolutely be a better place. Oh, you are yet. You are just an
amazing, purpose driven human. And I'm so glad that we have met
and you came on the show today. Thank you.
Thank you, and thank you for everyone who's
listening and watching