Tapping Into Your Sacred Purpose | OM024

Hey friends, so glad to see you here on another episode of the sales team ready podcast. And, you know, we talk a lot of things, we talk about business and strategies and marketing and sales and all of those things, all the things that are about you making more business happen and you make more money, and you scaling your business. And we always have a bent towards the exponential outcomes, and doing the things that make you an exponential effective business person, salesperson, business leader, industry leader in the marketplace. And one of the things that is very, very powerful and integral towards the success that we have, as change agents, as people who restore people to wholeness. No matter what you're doing, I don't know anybody who's in service based businesses that are engaging people in any kind of coaching, consulting, inspiring mentorship capacity, that isn't addressing the whole human, if all you're doing, you know, if I were the fall I was doing for you, you show up in our world, and we just teach you abcdefg 1234567, here's how you change, here's how you build a funnel. Here's how you build a sales script, here's how you build a sales team, all of that stuff, that would be okay. But most of the time, we have to prepare you to receive it, most of us are not ready to receive the kind of input guidance, mentorship, training, blessings that come our way. And we have to do work. Because if we're going to put you in a place to help you generate more business, more revenue, more money, greater impact separates you from the pack, start moving you through life at a different speed at a different pace at a different level. Well, if you haven't done some work to be aware, and make those changes, whatever levels you move through will only be short lived and temporary, and they will be fleeting, and you will stumble. Right. And you know, you've all heard the same stories, just like people, if you haven't earned the next level that you don't attain the next level, you don't maintain the next level, it's easier you can it is definitely possible to reach the next level like a shooting star. But if you haven't earned the right you haven't become the person learned the skills done the things to get there, you won't maintain it. Just like somebody who gets a gastric bypass surgery, I have not seen anybody that I personally know there may be out there, who's gone through that process and then maintained it because they didn't change the behaviors. They didn't change their personality, their insight, who they are as a person as a being as a spiritual human even transformed. So change was temporary. And I'm a man of God, right? I roll with Jesus, my Bible here that I that I read and, and lean on every day, sometimes better than others. But it's right here, I keep it right here not because I'm a holy man of God. But because I'm a fallen man. And I need God. And I keep it right here all the time, so that I don't have to search for it that I know that word is right here. And all I have to do is open it and read a page. I don't have to go dig it off a shelf somewhere. And so this conversation that I'm going to have with you that you're going to witness is a conversation with a colleague, a friend named Daniel, Daniel Hanneman. And he is he's got a podcast called the spiritual Rockstar podcast, which is we're tomorrow he and we just finished this podcast right now. And tomorrow, we're gonna have a part two of this conversation on his spiritual Rockstar podcast. And today a little bit more focused on him. Although it's a good lively discussion, tomorrow is gonna be a little bit more focused on me. So when you get part two, which will be in the link here in the show notes, so that you can click on it. And we're gonna dive into how does Jesus show up in your business? What does prayer life do for you in your business? I'm embrace you. I'm in challenge right now I know. You know, I talk about God often enough that most of you are usually aware of it. If this is your first time dropping in and you think, Oh man, I was here for some sales training, talking about sales and scaling. Trust me, it's part of the conversation. But it's the foundation of the conversation that makes it all go Who are you in the world? What is your purpose? How is God show up in your world? Who are you to Jesus and how is Jesus showing up through you to serve the people that you put you in front of, to be able to make change for them in their life. And so I want to get you to just embrace the conversation. Take it in just feel it feel what was being shared take what you can chew the rest spit it out, just whatever seeds can be planted inside of you or what can be woken up in your I would love to hear and mouth this episode more than any other. When you hear make sure you reach out to me my contact information is in the in the in the show notes. Just click on I want to know what you think. How is this striking you? Do you agree? Do you have any questions? Do you disagree? Please let us know that as well. Because we're here for you. We're here to serve you but I want to bring Jesus front and center only we got into the middle of your business and show him as out show you how in the middle of our business between this episode and the next one but share some things that are going to you know some stuff that you may go hand, whatever and some of the things that will probably blow your mind, because I share some things in the next episode after this one, that if I wasn't there to witness it, I wouldn't believe it either. So I don't blame you. But I'm encouraging you to come along for the ride. Have a little prayer right and say have good prayer for you right now if you want to even pause and just take a minute prayer dive in as we're gonna believe what God wants you to walk away from this process. Oh, dear Jesus. Heavenly Father, I just pray for the listener, I pray for this man, this woman, this person who's listening right now, who is in tune ready for a breakthrough looking for something being showed up looking for some sales, inspiration, some skills and tactics and is going to be opened to whatever moment the Spirit allows. And I want to just say thank you, Lord named Jesus, just whatever you need to speak to them speak let them take that from this podcast, whether it was said in the podcast, or not. Thank you so much. In Jesus name, amen. Joy, the episode, make sure that you rate reviews, subscribe, more important. Just commit to me share this, post this somewhere, share this with one person, somebody that you totally agree with somebody that you who you completely viewed completely disagree. I want I don't care. I'm here. If you find if you take this episode and put it on your social media say this guy's nuts. I'm good with that, too. All right. But make sure you take action on this. I want to know what you really think if you're lukewarm, we got a problem. But I'm hoping you're all in or you're you got questions and challenges, and I'm okay with all of that. God bless you. We'll see on the next one. All right, Daniel, I'm gonna, you know, we just heard the introduction, you know, on the intro. And before we get into a bit of your story, what's the what's the biggest thing that you want to share? And what's what's the, what's the aha moment for you right now? What is it? What's the most important thing you want people to know right now. And then we can unpack a little bit more as we go

Yeah, right now, it's really about that. We have got to realize like who we really are spiritually, that we're, we are actually guided by the love of God as Jesus, you know, you're a man of faith. And sure many of the people that are listening are as well. And although I'm more of the metaphysical bent, to me, it all works the same way in my own conception, but we have got to either way, we've got to understand that our only true hope, ultimately in life, to thrive is to rely on source God, whatever name you want to give it, Jesus. That's our only opportunity really, again, and again, in fact, the more innovation, the more technology there is, and the more things that are going on in the world, increasingly, like you're seeing like that is the way like that is the way that's being pointed to again and again. So if you're looking to expand your business, and be growth minded, or whatever, like that's the place for me, where I'm really lit up. So much so that I am getting ready to really, you know, share this message with a lot of people that heaven on earth is here for all the have eyes to see it right, the greater things will be added on to you from that place. When you're living from that place of heaven on earth. I think like too often what we're doing is we're just looking at the problems that are going on in the world or in our business or whatever it may be. And then we just get caught up in a hamster wheel. And then we're like, I can't figure it out, can't figure it out, can't figure it out. What have we learned to get more connected, if we were to able to come back to that space where we're in our, in our holiness, in our connection, answers start coming through you. I talked about meditating and making money, things like that to download what wants to happen. And it's always been that way. For me, my greatest success and expansion has always come. When I said, I got on my knees basically and said, I give up I can't figure it out. God show me the way. And the way is revealed. It just it just comes into you.

And it's surrender comes first. With right. Surrender comes first. Yeah, totally. So, you know, now, how did that become? Like when did you first really understand that that was the way things needed to be for you.

You know, it's always been there at some level, but just even recently, like a whole nother level of it is come in jam. Like, I've always been a spiritual teacher guide to people. But I think like for a number of years, like with the idea of building businesses and whatnot, because I do help with that. Sometimes I've gotten lost. So I'm like, Okay, we're gonna figure this out. We got to get the marketing and the tactics right and everything and what I have found again, and again, unless the energy of surrender is there, and you get into the energy of what really wants to come through, like it just doesn't, it just doesn't really take off in a real way. So that's been my experience anyway, and sometimes, yeah, there's tweaks and other things you can do that will blow up someone's business, but I'm just saying, generally speaking, when there's a big up level that wants to happen in someone's business or life, it's got to come from that place. As I just talked about, we have got to surrender. And we've got to surrender to the bigger thing that really wants to happen. That is the thing, that that there's 100 different roads that really you should be going down. But there's really one main road, you're meant to go down, you got to get aligned with that purpose, this time in your life, and get aligned with that, that's what's going to expand you in every every way.

You know, interesting, I have a lot of my little note cards when I do my, my Bible study. And this one has been on here that somebody's been meditating on every day for the last week, Proverbs three, five, and six, but it says, Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean, not on my own understanding, and always submit to Him, and He will make your paths straight. And it's just, it's been just really jumped out at me. And so it's been something that's been doing everything I can to submit in all ways, because the challenge is, you know, you, me, everybody listening. You're smart. And so we think we know stuff. And because we know stuff, we often get caught up, thinking we know best and even better than God. And so we get caught up doing what we think we should. And it usually takes us down some meandering path until we recognize, oops, I went the wrong way, or I went too far this direction, or whatever. And in God's over here, gone. Whenever you're ready, man, I'm here, you know, whatever, whatever you'd like to come back this way. And let me point you in the right path.

Right, exactly. I mean, for me, for example, gym like I have built up as you know, the, you know, I mind my academy for invincible healers and trained all these healers to be able to tune in to their gifts to be able to read people and understand their energy and work with their energy and enroll people to into the opportunities they see from their deeper energy like, Man, this is going on, and therefore it's creating this result in your life, let's get this flipped around and all that. And so I did that work for a number of years. And then these last six years, I was sort of in a desert, because I was told to let go of that business, from my guidance in 2017. But I couldn't land with what was next. So I tried all these different things, including doing the doing the marketing and sales stuff. But you know, everything sort of was a dead end until I talked to my sister one day and she says, I think you're lost, like you're not on your full path. You know, in all honesty, I'm just sharing this today. Like, I'm like, I agree. I agree. Like and then I asked God for the answer. And then I got the download the very next, like, within the next few days, like I just I submitted myself complete lies, I don't care, whatever it is, I'll do and you know, sometimes you ask that and you think you're being sincere, but you're not. But I was like I was sincere. I'm like, That's it, I just don't care anymore. This give it to me. This telling me I'll do it and, and so it came to me the next morning and meditation, I just just downloaded like, Okay, you're here, your spiritual leader, your Awakener like more than anything, yeah, you may play with some of this other stuff. But like, that's not the main thing. And it's been a thing I've run around all my life, even though I've done it, you know, and other those other containers I talked about before the Academy are sort of a spiritual leader and teacher, of course, as part of that sort of stuff. Like, this is a whole nother level where I'm gonna be reaching a lot more people, you know, a lot more people that I can serve. But I kept saying, like, I don't know, like, I don't know, can I make money doing that, like in the past? Or does that mean I need to be a reverend and all that stuff? And no, none of those concepts, you know, like, just what's the what's What's God telling you? And just really submit to that, and I'm a person, I would have said, you know, no, I'm always listening. I'm always doing but not really, like, not at that deepest level, right? Like, you got to go to that deeper level. And that's where the miracle appears like, wow, okay, now I feel like so much as possible. I see all kinds of pathways to certain people going forward with his work and how my long range goals dial in and yeah, may change, but like, I'm ready for a whole nother level. And this is how I happened with the academy when I was really successful with that, like, it just kind of came in to me, and it seemed things happening again, and I couldn't be more excited.

You know, it's interesting, because, right around 2017 When you're talking to you were going through this. Yeah, that's when we first met right around that time. Yeah, it's, you know, in a mastermind time.

Yeah, maybe just before that, but yeah, yeah, around that time. Yeah.

Yeah it was right. Cuz, you know, interesting, not just my, from my memory of an observation of, of when we first met. Oh, wasn't really clear what you did. Right. And maybe that's why you were you were still trying to sort this out. Right. Right. Right. It's always interesting, because if when you're when you're settled on the inside, in materializes on the outside, right? We show up in a way that says I know where I'm going. I know why. I'm here, I belong in this room, this room is better because I'm in it. You know, all of those things that come from this absolute certainty and then knowing inside?

Yeah, yeah. Which, which I had one with that work I did before I was that place. But this is a whole nother level of started researching. This feels even stronger than those six years I had the academy, like, that was my thing. Like that was my jam. And I totally own that. And it was totally committed to it. And I thought it would continue indefinitely. I didn't know how long it would go. And then like, I just was on that desert, sort of like for all these years and continue to do pretty well with business and whatnot. But like, I just really Yeah, of course, nobody would be clear what I was doing. Because I wasn't clear. Right. So. So it's pretty pretty.

So do you think that you were on the wrong path? Or do you think it was just ready for another evolution or

Another evolution. I think it was fine, where I started. But and I did do work with with Jesus and spirituality. I was doing that back in 2017. And before I did a couple of programs with Jesus, but it wasn't a smaller container was just a take a few people that already worked with me, we put them in this program. Now it's it's like, okay, let's bring a quite a number of people into this work, which is, hey, again, instead of starting with the problem, like most people, do, I want to do it, I want to do it reverse, I think you'll get more results that way. And you may not agree, I don't know. But like I think we need to start with, okay, you're already whole, you're already well, heaven on earth is already here. Now from that place, you know what's possible, what's possible, what's coming into you. And this is the talk about it. Now, I work with people, it's more of getting them into the connection, the energy, of being in the heart space, and meditating and deepening and just awakening to what's true, as you put your mind and attention on the vision that you are clear on even the bits and pieces that come in the download start coming in, and you start realizing what really wants to happen for your life, even the details. But till you dial in the technology to do that, like you just keep going with the next program you sign up for or whatever, to try to get more growth inwardly or in your business and your structures, and you just keep spinning like like I did, like I was basically spinning during that time period. So until I until I this opened up to me which it hasn't, you know, fulfill itself, but I feel like it's already happening, it's already done. And it's a really good feeling when you finally are in that space.

You know, I want to encourage you listening to so that whether you're a more traditional, biblical Christian, like myself, or if you're more metaphysical and, and have a different approach to it, like Daniel, I mean, obviously, we can still commune and get along. And at the end of the day, we're still supporting towards a better Earth and a godly representation of what we do. And then, you know, you know, I believe in what I do and who I am and where I am in the Bible and all of that. And but it's also it's not my job to judge the situation. And so I want you to just take that from this when you're listening these conversations, like how does this apply to you? You know, I find that there's a lot of people in business, in life in general, but my world is business. But so there's a lot of people who are moving through space a little bit differently. And before I got into, you know, more of the transformational coaching environment, I never would have referred to it this way. But it would have just been, it would have just been more of a instinct about moving by instinct, or gut and feel, whatever. And if you don't have a clear path spiritually, doesn't mean you're not on a spiritual path. Right? You know, it's just a matter of identifying that there's something bigger, there's something more than the transactions that you're doing every day in your business, but you're literally impacting and changing people's lives, by the buyer, what it is you're doing for them. And even if you're selling paper clips, I mean, maybe what you're doing physically isn't changing lives, but the way you can interact and engage people, you can lead your team in that manner you can be you know, your your workplace can be your mission field, your ministry.

Totally, I totally agree with that. I mean, like, you know, with what I've already been doing, it's just with the teams I've worked with and lead and everything. It's like when you're being a representation of of that energy of, I want to say the Christ within or whatever, you know, that's how I look at it. Like we're, you know, we're all meant to aspire to be like Jesus I Right. I mean, ultimately in Christianity, or in that direction, so It's like coming from that place people, you become that representation. And people are inspired by that. They want to become more generous, they want to give more, they want to pour their heart and soul into something. And that's what's possible. You know, when you're in that space yourself rather than I'm this limited, you know, human being and I don't know if anything's with or against me these days, like, I've tried to get through my blocks and all this stuff. And, you know, instead realizing like there's a, there's a huge opportunity, when you open to it, you submit yourself and you get still you get quiet, you pray, you meditate, you get into the Bible, or whatever it is that connects you in that way spiritually. And then you allow yourself to feel that current of life is one way I put it a current of life that just comes over you. And it just like, this is the way and when you just trust that you walk with that. All the clarity will come to you. I mean, well, I don't know this, I don't know that. Well, that's what your mind says, when you're not connected, you know, constantly talking about, I don't know something, all you have to do is resubmit yourself to the to the guidance and the connection, your sovereignty with God, your oneness with God, from my perspective, and trust that and know everything's being provided right on time, you'll need to know everything you need, where you need to sharpen up where you need to surrender, where you need to lean in, you know, where you need to cut things off, right, everything is revealed, we have to listen to that. And really, it is an obedience, it's like you have to be obedient to it. Or you just suffer the penalty, you just have more extended pain, as you say, Jim, like this, extend the pain otherwise.

Yeah, and you know, you got to think about to being, the more connected you are to God, you know, if you're connected to the Holy Spirit, and you know, the less need you have, for the whole picture to be revealed. Because your faith is guiding your trust in God's like, you just need to know where the next step is. I trust that he's got he's moving, he's putting the road down before you as you're moving. And you win. If you're trying to do this in your own strength, then we're always going to come up short, because we always feel like we have to know the whole picture before we know how to move. But when we're moving with God, then God's one filling out the picture. He's the one that puts the vision in your heart, the dream in your mind, you know, and then build the road before you and then you know, as he told me, he's the wind in my sails is the hand in my back. And he just now is ready for me to move. And I don't have to know the full picture. I just have to know that. He's got me right now. So, you know, we'll talk more about it on our next interview. We're going to connect this because we're doing back to back here we're doing we're going to be talking on Daniel's spiritual Rockstar podcast tomorrow. So hopefully we'll we'll have we'll have this connected to that episodes, you'll get part two of this conversation, but have had some pretty incredible things go well, with God building our business, to the point where it used to be weird to me just to seem like I can't really talk about God building my business because people would think I'm nuts. But I've got you looking back. It's like you just connect all that oh, he was there. He did that he did that he did that. It's, it's there's so unquestionable that, it's it's amazing. It's like this, everything we've got has been because it's been given by him. And it's his business. And we're just stewarding it. And do you have any scenarios where you can point back and say that specifically God in my business, or in my life that led to my business outcomes?

Oh, yeah, I mean, again, especially when I was in that flow with the academy, like, it's just, I didn't, I didn't come up with the idea to do that business. Like, I didn't sit down and and say this is this is exactly what I'm gonna do for my head. It was that it just, you know, when it was revealed to me, and, you know, the only way I was able to have that success is because the energy was just flowing through me from God, you know, it brought the right people during that time to have the level of impact and success that we had with it to happen for me and the people that were part of it. And I just talked to somebody that went through the whole thing was a leader in the organization and he's like, I still every day you know, I got that certificate, right? Because certification thing right in front of me every day. And I remember like, the impact that had in my life going through that and the gratitude and but I don't look at it as like I did it, you know, like I did this impact or something like I just feel like I just showed up for something and then God moves through me that's how I see that my work period like when I go to do a channel prayer for someone or just to tune in to them or whatever, like it's all just God speaking through me like I don't I don't know anything. I mean, I'm just letting it come through me but often we're not trusting to let it come through. We're like I don't know about that, you know, I don't know. But this intuition or these downloads I'm getting, I don't know about all that. Let me figure it out. Like you got to you got to trust it guys you got to trust. If it's false, it will, it will show you it to be false pretty quick if you're paying attention, because you get a feeling it'll be like, some feels off and ask out again. Okay, this is right for me is if Should we continue? Yes, no. Right. And then you'll find out really quick. But, you know, we keep trying to take over like we were talking earlier, like, Okay, God, I got it from here, you know, and we've heard that before. But it's so true. We forget that. And now with other things, Jim, I just want to say real quickly introduce this idea. It's like now that we have AI and all these technologies, they're not wrong. They're not bad. It's just, but they confuse people like, oh, maybe AI is my god or you know, this, this this political ideas, my god or something else is my God, no. And the more you believe that, the more you're going to suffer, the more you're going to have the world that you see you don't want, oh, I wish the world was different. Quit making everything else first. It's gotta be God, it's gotta be God, that'd be Jesus or whatever, however you believe it's gotta be that thing that you're connected to that transcendent spirit within you are nothing will will come together the way you want it to, and you will not be delivered into the kingdom, so to speak, you will not you will not experience that. So even if you don't believe in heaven, and hell, you will not experience it in this lifetime, whatever you believe, like, but you will not experience that. So you'll only get bits and pieces of it, you will not get the full effect for sure.

What about for you know, we're talking a lot about reliance on spirit. I mean, you know, we've both been on a journey for for a while. And so I would say we're more mature in our faith. And it was a lot of people will question it. And then people listening right now, who are like, come on, you guys. This doesn't work that way. And what about all the skill sets that I've got? You know, I have been I'm 54 years old. Now. Again, a lot of skills and a lot of smarts. I'm just not supposed to use it. I'm just supposed to let God tell me what to do. How do you respond to that?

Yeah, I mean, just how's it working for you, and when you're honest, because you know, most people that say they've got an opinion about their life, once we sit down and really get present with them, they start to burst again, I remember having people at my events, they sit down, they say, This is who I am, this is what I'm doing. I'm gonna make billions I'm gonna do whatever. And I'd be like, I just I just, I just sit there a presence with God with them. And before you know it, they were crumbling in tears and like, Okay, well, I don't know anything. After we talked for a while and do the work, like I start to realize they're just, they're just clinging to something that they feel gives them a sense of strength protection. Like, I this is what I can rely on. Like any of those things could go away, like you think you're really good at something like until you're not right, like, Oh, I'm not really good at that anymore. Something like that could happen. Anything's possible. But when you rely on your faith, or when you rely on God, like everything is whole, like you could be you could be paralyzed in a chair and not be have any function. But if you still have that faith in God, you know, you will come through it, you will find a way through that is my belief. If you're truly connected, if you're truly in surrender, if you truly desire as part of your path, if that's what God wants in your life, you're going to be healed, you're going to be restored. But if you just keep saying it's about my capacities, and I just have these abilities, and I have these ideas, and that's been my mindset, it's been what I've done, it's been my art where that's what created these results, then you're just you're, you're, you're going to just continue to run into dissatisfaction you can lie to yourself, you can lie to other people, and you're happy you're expanded, you're having a great life. I don't believe you I really don't like I don't believe people that told me that that are not connected at a deeper level. Because I know that they are suffering from a false identity. You're not some just human being kind of trying to navigate this path, you're something far greater until you can acknowledge that you'll always be dissatisfied, whether you admit it or not. And that's what I've seen at least that's what I've noticed.

Yeah, I agree. Also, you know, there is a perspective of you have gained a lot of skill sets through the things you've done, and God wants you to use those to God you know, so because it's like, you know, you put your hand to the plow and it's like I say work as if it's all on to you pray as if it's all online to God and it's a combination of both you know, there's been times it was like okay, God What are you going to do this is I already gave you that skill said why are you waiting on me? Go fix it and then I'll bless him when you do you know, but But it all of it comes a still requires you to be connected, because if you're not connected and tapped into, oh, Spirit, Jesus to you know, then you're always guessing. You don't know.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly, it's very painful path because you're never sure of anything, whether you have a lots of success or money or whatever you want, or you don't, when you when you're connected, you just know everything's okay. Everything's well. You know, everything's well ultimately, yeah, you have the nagging thing but that's just the motivation that you're getting from God the inspiration to connect further to go deeper and to have more faith right? That's that's what it's doing. That's that's its purpose if it just shows up, okay, great, blessed that to buy, you know, the opportunity to you know, transcend any condition that comes from God, you know that any I've, I've seen all scenarios in my life where, you know, you have decisions to make in your life, okay, should I marry this person or not? Right? The person I'm with, I asked God, I sit down, sit down, have dinner with myself, God, should I take this path or not? And it's just revealed to you when you ask if you will ask, you'll get us in metaphysical stuff. We say you get signs or whatnot, right? It somehow it will be revealed to you, you'll just get that feeling like this is the direction I'm supposed to go. And you have a sense of certainty around it. You might have fears, right? For sure. By you might have a lot of fears. You might be like, What the hell am I doing at times, right? For sure. 100%. But when you keep coming back to where that energy and that inspiration came to, and you keep anchoring yourself in so you can you're gonna move through it easily. You're gonna move through it easily ultimately, you know, they're part of you might be kicking and screaming, ultimately, it's easy. But if we don't submit to that, then yeah, everything will be difficult, because you're not connected. You're just like, I'm trying to figure this out God, would you help well get connected up with God, then it'll be a lot easier.

Yeah, I've got a few stories that I'm that I'm looking forward to sharing on when we're when we're talking on your podcast on the next episode. So you guys make sure you tune into this, because I'm just going to share with you and you quite honestly, some of the stuff you're just going to think is nuts. But I've seen way too much to even question the existence and the direction of God, taking take six months of God in my life, the presence of God in my business, the direction that he is guiding and leading our business, I got some stories I'm gonna share with you about some clients and some friends that, you know, hopefully will just inspire you to say, Hey, man, I need to lean in and trust God more. So when people are working with you, I know you have a program that that guide people on this journey. What who who's the person who's ready for this program with you? And what should they expect when they're working with you on the program?

Yeah, it's for people. Okay, so what I've, what I've been guided to share with the world is a program to essentially to be like Jesus, none of us are Jesus, right? But we've been encouraged to be like Jesus, I believe, for a long time. And they I it's not a new idea. But it's like it's a program to help you to be more like Jesus. And only based on our imagination, we can never know it directly, right? Necessarily, we can have an experience or a connection to it. We don't know it, but we do you know, like it. I mean, we do it, but you don't. So yes, we couldn't turn to what Jesus has said. We have that so we have that as a foundation. But we also have through prayer we also have through messages that we get from spirit when we ask, we have messages from Jesus, quite frankly, again, I've channeled Jesus people can find me online he'll heal with Jesus. Look it up David, Daniel Hanuman, you know, you'll find things online, there are some things out there already, and transmissions and see if you like them. So if they invite you, but most people that have received them, you know, they feel like, like, their guard drops down. They get feel that sense of surrender, they feel the nurturance and whether they believe that's Jesus talking, I'm not saying it's Jesus talking, as I say, I'm just saying it's the energy of Jesus, I put submit myself to it, I let it speak through me and I trust it and you'll gain what you need from it. So in the program, you know, they're gonna gain the program isn't wrapped up yet, Jim. So like, I can't really give the bells and whistles but it's gonna bring people down a pathway, a journey with me of being like Jesus getting attune to that energy heaven on earth is here and then manifesting from that place the life in the business you want if you have a business so it is for people who are light worker, light leader type of people that want to expand their life, they may be like, even just considering going down the healer path or something like that. It can be sort of a variety of those type of people that are coming together but they know that they're sick of the way things are. They're tired of trying to figure it out, like how do I succeed in my business and in my life, like they're tired of figuring it out and they're willing to submit To God finally to submit to being like Jesus, and knowing that they would love to understand, you know, the capacities. Remember Jesus did say these things in greater you shall do. Right. Right, Jim. So it's in the right in the Bible. And so we have those capacities. I've demonstrated some of these capacities, you know, to move objects or to, you know, I haven't done like water to wine or whatever have had these other miracles, but like, the loaves of bread, or whatever, but no, but we can, we can experience those things. Because it's not us doing it. He always says, it's the father, it's my Father in heaven is doing all these things, right? He didn't say I'm doing it is my Father in heaven, right? You hear the more biblical than I am. But like, that's what he's saying. Right? That's what he's saying. So it's like, we have access to that as well. We're not like yeah, like the ugly, stepchildren, exactly. I mean, we are meant for it to, and so but we have to understand how to integrate that into our way of being in a way that's real and not, you know, again, a manipulation of the mind, you know, those capacities, these high capacities that we have to transmute energy and to influence people and to raise consciousness can also be used to control people and do all kinds of nonsense, right? cochlea, we have to bring you into the deeper thing. And then when within the program for those that are ready for it, the only people that are ready for a be in the program, you will learn like these miracles and things. Like if you cut your hand, like I've had the experience, I cut my hand and just flipped my hand over and it's gone. Like, like the things you're talking about, Jim, like I've experienced in other ways, like things that just don't sound possible. Right? Right. Okay, my engine isn't working. Okay, this hasn't been working for weeks. It's not like just today, okay, pray upon that vehicle, I put energy into it, and how it works. You know, there's just all these stories, all these things that are real things, not only me, is experienced, but others. And so we can experience anything, if we allow ourselves to open ourselves to it, new cycles can change. I've seen it happen before. If I actually submit myself to it, anything is possible, all these things can change. Now, will there always be rumors of war and national wars going on? Yeah, probably. Right. It's the way it goes. But we can experience more of that we can be a more of a blessing to people. That's what the program is designed to do is to help you to really get to the thing itself, your true identity, which is your child of God, you are, you are blessed, you are infinite in your own way. And you're meant to experience the gift and wonder of who you truly are, as a child of God, and your purpose and thriving, doing your purpose and doing your work in the world at the highest level. That's what's meant for you. And that's what you're guided into through this work that I do.

You know, and it's interesting, because, you know, I don't see everything the same way that you do around it. But the reason that I, the reason we're talking about this is because I do, I do respect that you are you are representing what God is doing through us, not what we're doing. This isn't the power of Jim, this isn't the power of Daniel Brower of the listener. This is the power of God moving in our life when we live a surrendered, submitted life to Jesus. And then there's the Holy Spirit moving in us because we're not capable. I mean, there it says in Scripture, nothing good exists in as the only good in us as the Father. And so it's, you know, it's tapping into that and recognizing that we've got that power. It says, if you have the faith of a mustard seed, you can move that mountain from here to there. Right? And so it's us, it says, believing, and it's us moving and it's us rebuking, you know, other things and other spirits in the name of Jesus, it's us invoking Jesus powerfully into our life. And so that in the name of Jesus, it says, specifically, right that, you know, he is greater greater is He who is in me than he was in the world, and that all things are possible through Christ who strengthens me. It's about tapping in if we ask, you know, we have to not seek knock, ask and it's we have to ask for with the right intentions, the right reasons in the day, it will usually the things that fall short, or when we're asking because of our own personal desires, our own personal greed, instead of really leveraging the power for the kingdom, to be able to say, Yes, I can help here, I can impact here, I can make change here. And then the blessings of the wealth come as a byproduct, there's, you know, no, we're in this as God did not want us to make money. And God wants us to live in the spirit of abundance. We just need to be doing things in accordance with His purpose. And, you know, I'll share some of those scriptures and stuff when I when we talk tomorrow on an episode on part two of this conversation, but it's exciting. You know, it's exciting that people can invoke that and it's just understanding that God's God's in charge.

Yes, yes. I think we agree on a lot of things that actually Jim That's another thing I've realized and people that say, well, we're not on the same page. We're probably more on the same page and be real So I appreciate you being willing to have me on here to talk about these things today, even though there is a perception, and maybe we're not on the same page, but everything, everything you just said, I totally agree with.

Awesome. Praise God. So any anything else? As we wrap up here, what do you what do you want to share? I know we opened up with you, you know, the power statement in the beginning was the have to know that the presence of God inside he was it was going to make the difference. And live in love Jesus, how do you want to how do you want to close this?

Yeah, I just want to just reiterate that if you're feeling a bit lost, you know, it all, you know, like, if you feel like, man, what is the real life for me? Like, what is my divine destiny? What's my real truth? Like to just just submit yourself, you know, like, we're talking about, like, you don't want to get to that next level things as a sales show, you know, really a podcast is like, you don't know how to get to the next level in sales. Well, God does. And once you submit yourself to that, the to, to to God in prayer and meditation, and you really ask deeply for the answer is and really sincere sincerity is real power is real power, that surrender and that sincerity, those two words, you do those both of those things are completely sincere, you're completely surrender. And you ask, you will receive Absolutely, and then that whatever the next level is that wants to happen in your life and your business, whatever direction God's wants you to take will bless your life, but you have to be willing to submit completely not like 50% or 70% or 80% 100%, then the blessings can come otherwise, you're gonna just run into more dead ends eventually, like you might get a little blessing here or there in a god's betcha God yanks the rug out all the way. Shake. Hey, listen, we're good. Then you're like, What happened to my business? My life, everything's going to hell. And he had tested like job or something. It's like, okay, well, you didn't listen. So we had to yank the whole rug off from underneath. Yeah, to try to get you to listen. So yeah, yeah, we had to extend your pain. But you can end that right now. If you're willing to submit now,

it God's gonna extend the pain until you learn the lesson, you'll have to you'll have to experience it until you actually learn the lesson. And too many people don't recognize that, well, this is about coming to the end of yourself. Because if you have everything under control, one of the biggest challenges for the Western world, and people if you live in the United States, especially, you are one of the most gifted times in the history of the world, on one of the greatest country, in the history of the planet. At the right time, you could not be more privileged and more blessed. I don't care what your race, size six out who you are, where you are absolutely, living in that reality. And that is the biggest hurdle to you embracing God because we tend to think I like what I have, like what I've created, who needs God, as opposed to when you wake up in the middle of a desert, or in the middle of country, and you know, and you've got a dirt floor, and you gotta go hike five miles to find your water and you're not sure where your next meal is gonna come from unless you catch your your meals for the day. You wake up the moment you wake up, you know, you need God. And so I have so many times there's so more blessed than we are because they know the desire and the need that dependence that they have on God. So they embrace it all the time. And so it's been a journey for me but I'm at a place where I'm I'm much more in tune to it than I've ever been to the reality that God is my Savior. God is my guide that is my protector. He is my provider. This all happens for him. This is not my business that is his and is not his people. That is not my people that we serve there his it is not his money and my money. It is his and it takes the attachment away from everything because all I'm doing is taking care of before him. And with his blessing. We have a lot more of it to take care of.

Absolutely, absolutely. Praise praise to God.

Yes. Amen. Amen. Praise Jesus. All right. We will make sure you tap in guys because like I said, part two, this is going to be coming on Daniel's podcasts on spiritual Rockstar podcast we're going to tap into more of this and I said I got some specific stories and some scriptures I want to talk to you about some money about about earning wealth. Because it is your spiritual birthright. It is what God wants for you. But there's just some things we got to make sure that we're clean and clear on like Daniel said being connected and contacted with Jesus so that this all flows as it should be. So it Daniels information is in the show notes. I'm not sure how it worked technically but the neck the episode for the next one will also be in the show notes so you can get to Daniel's podcast, the spiritual Rockstar podcast to get part two of this conversation as it comes out. And let's go make some magic. Make some magic happen, like gods magic shine through you. Let's make sure that you show a power roughly in the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus, that blessings begin, let success begin. Let you and, and God show up and do everything that you have been called to do and then blow your mind and change your life forever. Amen. Yes. Right. All right. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. And listen, I you know, those of you I'm actually going to throw this in the show notes as well. But I have a program called the 10 moves to make more sales without getting better at selling. So they're literally 10 moves 10 ways that I structure my life to make sales. Not one of them has anything to do with scripts, and objection handling and tactics in sales. It's how you organize your life. So that sales happen. And one of those 10 moves is prayer and visualization. It's literally a strategy to make more sales, and you're going to want to tap into that. So all right, Daniel, been a pleasure, man. So good to see you and looking forward to part two of the conversation.

Sounds great, Jim. Thanks so much.