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Jen Lang:Hi, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of no
Jen Lang:halos here with Jen Lang and Jane Stark. Whoo. We're happy.
Jane Stark:I know you're booted again.
Jen Lang:I read it again. It's so funny two weeks in a row.
Unknown:I've never heard you boot other than
Unknown:last week.
Jane Stark:Last weekend today. We talk a lot. I've never heard
Jane Stark:the boot. I know what I was thinking to boot up. It's
Jen Lang:maybe it's because I'm doing more singing. Maybe
Jen Lang:interfaculty it. So today, we've got kind of a special episode,
Jen Lang:we want to give you a little bit of behind the scenes in the
Jen Lang:world of Jen and Jane.
Jane Stark:Yeah, we were talking about we have lots of
Jane Stark:different topics outlined. And oftentimes, so let's let's dive
Jane Stark:right into behind the scenes. Yeah, oftentimes, when Jen and I
Jane Stark:are going to record, we have a list of topics. But we for us
Jane Stark:feel like we really need to be in the moment. And we need to
Jane Stark:feel the energy of what we want to talk about. And so it's an
Jane Stark:oftentimes, we'll be chatting earlier in the week, we record
Jane Stark:on Thursdays, and we'll be chatting earlier in the weekend,
Jane Stark:like, Oh, we got to bring this to the podcast. And then I find
Jane Stark:we get to Thursday to our recording day. And I'm like, oh,
Jane Stark:okay, the energy of that topic is not here right now. So then
Jane Stark:we kind of go through and we're like, okay, like, what feels
Jane Stark:juicy or what feels like relatively like for now. And so
Jane Stark:that's kind of how we came to where we're at today where none
Jane Stark:of the topics that we kind of had felt, right? And then we're
Jane Stark:like, why don't we just give a little bit of a behind the
Jane Stark:scenes and a share as to what's going on for us in our lives and
Jane Stark:how this energy is landing for us right now.
Jen Lang:And also some of the tools that we use. So yeah, it
Jen Lang:basically came out of while Jane and I were talking and trying to
Jen Lang:figure out a topic, I sort of shuffled one of my tarot decks.
Jen Lang:And I was like, oh, but you know what, maybe this didn't just
Jen Lang:give us a little bit of a boost or a little bit of guidance as
Jen Lang:to what we want to bring to you all of you today. And the card
Jen Lang:that popped out was the Eight of Pentacles. From and this is from
Jen Lang:the light Sears Tarot by krisanne. And basically, the
Jen Lang:card is a picture of a woman sitting on an office type chair.
Jen Lang:And there in front of her, she's holding a candle. And then in
Jen Lang:front of her all these different things. So there's different
Jen Lang:bowls of things. There's paperwork, there's books,
Jen Lang:there's another candle, there's a feather and plant and all this
Jen Lang:kind of stuff. So just I was like It felt really reflective
Jen Lang:of what each of us has going on right now. For Jane and I and
Jen Lang:also the the eight Pentacles above are also represented as
Jen Lang:cycles of the moon. So there's two aspects to bring in. And as
Jen Lang:both we've just come off this really big full moon and Leo
Jen Lang:Jana and I both had, I'm going to say different but similar
Jen Lang:different experiences, but similar realizations. Out of
Jen Lang:this Full Moon energy
Jane Stark:would be often the case for us. Yes, definitely.
Jane Stark:Very, I mean it. I always find that fascinating with us and our
Jane Stark:relationship to because we live fairly different lives. But yet
Jane Stark:we have a lot of similar themes play out
Jen Lang:in very different ways. Yeah. So yeah. And but
Jen Lang:always providing experiences for growth. And then we can talk
Jen Lang:about it with each other. And yeah, you know,
Jane Stark:through amazing,
Jen Lang:I love it. Me too.
Jane Stark:So why don't we just kind of make this like, let's
Jane Stark:just dive in and chat a little bit about what's going on for
Jane Stark:us. So, like, what's kind of going on with the big picture of
Jane Stark:life for you right now and some of the themes that you're seeing
Jane Stark:play out.
Jen Lang:So I think some of the big picture themes that I'm
Jen Lang:seeing play out is for me an old habit around over scheduling
Jen Lang:myself. And this has been a I'm gonna say, an adulthood lifelong
Jen Lang:habit or pattern that's come out of overachievement and being
Jen Lang:busy. A lot of I was definitely where the busy badge of honor
Jen Lang:from university onwards. And it was this. I think it grew out of
Jen Lang:this needing to both prove aspects of self like working
Jen Lang:hard doing full time courses and how Been holding a part time job
Jen Lang:while at university. And then, you know, getting into music
Jen Lang:later on in life and the demands of that schedule of working part
Jen Lang:time and studying music. full time, part time. That's
Jen Lang:definitely big. So for this week, it's been this multitude
Jen Lang:of activities. And I've definitely I definitely take
Jen Lang:pride in my multi passionate nature and my interest across
Jen Lang:all many, many topics. I'm very curious, constantly curious on
Jen Lang:my own. Why that is. And I wonder why that is. And even
Jen Lang:walking the dogs in the morning. I'm just like, why that plant is
Jen Lang:doing that right now? What is it about that location, you know,
Jen Lang:just the always wondering and inquisitive mind piece. So I
Jen Lang:think that also partly leads to the overscheduling. But then I
Jen Lang:also need to read, I think, be more respectful of my energy
Jen Lang:levels. And some of this came in an earlier conversation that
Jen Lang:Jane and I had around, it was a little bit about boundaries, but
Jen Lang:it was related to my schedule, where when I'm working with my
Jen Lang:calendar, and my schedule, I'm conscious about time and energy
Jen Lang:and blocking off time and space. But it's in the moments where
Jen Lang:someone asks for, say, a reschedule or a, you know, like,
Jen Lang:Hey, can we just move this here? Or I think in your case, Janet
Jen Lang:was like, Do you have time for five minute chat? Those types of
Jen Lang:conversations that leak into our day to day lives, but ended up
Jen Lang:end up costing you more energetically than just that
Jen Lang:five minute conversation? Yeah, that's what's happening for me
Jen Lang:right now.
Jane Stark:Another one that I noticed for me, is, is the
Jane Stark:device. And I don't want to go down the rabbit like, yeah, not
Jane Stark:going on the path of talking about boundaries and devices,
Jane Stark:specifically, but I also noticed that that's a leaky boundary for
Jane Stark:me where, you know, if I have like, say, two hours where I
Jane Stark:don't have calls or meetings in the afternoon, and I'm like,
Jane Stark:Okay, I'm gonna take that time I need to eat, I maybe need to
Jane Stark:rest or do a quick workout or stretch or something. And then
Jane Stark:all of a sudden, you know, my phone dings. And then I've just
Jane Stark:spent 10 minutes, you know, because then that puts me on to
Jane Stark:my phone, which then I'm like, I'll check my email quickly, or
Jane Stark:I'll check this. And then, like that leaky boundary, too. And
Jane Stark:then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, half an hour is gone of my
Jane Stark:two hours that I had. Yeah. So sorry, to go back to this for
Jane Stark:you. That's what's been really,
Jen Lang:I think that's just what's been coming up and
Jen Lang:showing up. And what's interesting is that I've taken
Jen Lang:out a couple of activities in the past couple of months that
Jen Lang:have met, my evenings are more free now. And I'm really
Jen Lang:enjoying that I'm really, really enjoying that. Because before,
Jen Lang:like, I would work. And then I would have an activity three,
Jen Lang:sometimes four nights a week. And I think up until September,
Jen Lang:I was doing karate three or four times a week, either mornings or
Jen Lang:evenings. And it just became, just became too much on the
Jen Lang:schedule. And I wasn't now that I know what it's like to like,
Jen Lang:oh, I can just be home and Kirk and I can like watch a show
Jen Lang:together. Or we'll have dinner and cook dinner together, which
Jen Lang:we didn't have as much time for before. So that's part of that
Jen Lang:leaky boundary piece. Then what else is unfolding? It's, I'm
Jen Lang:seeing this unfold a bit with clients with some clients
Jen Lang:around. Not like allowing their practices that keep them
Jen Lang:centered and grounded to also leak or fall away. I've seen
Jen Lang:that really cool this week. Yeah. So the stuff that and
Jen Lang:you've seen it too, this week? Yeah,
Jane Stark:me too. Yeah. Well, I was saying to you the other
Jane Stark:day, I've noticed that I, I am being very conscious, or having
Jane Stark:to be very conscious about keeping them in and doing them.
Jane Stark:And I'm in a space right now where they almost feel a little
Jane Stark:bit like chores. Yeah. So but I'm having to Yeah, I think I
Jane Stark:was messaging you the other night, I went out for a walk at
Jane Stark:like seven o'clock because I literally I was like, I've been
Jane Stark:in my house all day, like working, parenting doing
Jane Stark:whatever, maybe I left to drive somebody somewhere, but like,
Jane Stark:and I was like, the last thing I really felt like doing was
Jane Stark:putting on my jacket and going like outside. And yet I was like
Jane Stark:just put one foot in front of the other and get out and just
Jane Stark:walk the dog even for half an hour and yeah, so being in that
Jane Stark:space where it's really easy to not do the thing but I'm I know
Jane Stark:now the importance of keeping those those practices in place
Jane Stark:and sometimes so I think you know, sometimes you do have to
Jane Stark:do them even when they don't feel maybe good. Like it feels
Jane Stark:like another thing on the to do list.
Jen Lang:Well that's a that's an interesting nuance because of
Jen Lang:course you know I we always talk about going without feeling and
Jen Lang:the fine in the moment, but sometimes you have to override
Jen Lang:that. Like I
Jane Stark:knew today. Yeah. I just because I knew I would feel
Jane Stark:better after and as soon as I was out. I was like, okay, yeah,
Jane Stark:I totally need this. But yeah, having to kind of push and know
Jane Stark:what's, what's good for you, even though I was tired and had
Jane Stark:a busy day, sorry, yesterday,
Jen Lang:I was gonna say if I didn't have that online yoga
Jen Lang:date with a girl, a good friend of mine. And normally we sort
Jen Lang:of, you know, lately we've been doing different online yoga
Jen Lang:classes, and, you know, quite enjoying them. Anyway, she sent
Jen Lang:me a link yesterday to this one that I was like, I was so
Jen Lang:resistant to this just feeling I was feeling cranky and feisty
Jen Lang:and didn't get addressed. It was like, it was definitely not
Jen Lang:something that I was excited to do. And if I hadn't had that
Jen Lang:date with a friend, I would not have done the class, I didn't
Jen Lang:feel like doing it. I just wanted to wrap my day up. And at
Jen Lang:the same time, even though I didn't love the class, I didn't
Jen Lang:love the format of the way these teachers had brought the
Jen Lang:routine. I'm like, Look, if I wanted to join a gym, I would
Jen Lang:have joined a gym, I want to do a yoga class where I hear the
Jen Lang:cues. And I hear the instructor talking, but this one just had
Jen Lang:music playing. And you had to constantly look at the screen to
Jen Lang:see what they were doing. And I'm so glad I did because I felt
Jen Lang:clear headed afterwards. So even though I didn't love the
Jen Lang:experience of the new class, I still appreciated the shift in
Jen Lang:energy that I brought for me. So that's kind of just where we're
Jen Lang:at.
Jane Stark:Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I think like we were
Jane Stark:saying the beginning for me, it's showing up in very
Jane Stark:different ways. I've realized the my old pattern that has
Jane Stark:shown up again, is, is the being superhuman. I've taken on and
Jane Stark:rescuing and rescuing and feeling like I can fix everyone.
Jane Stark:So there's some codependence there that I'm very aware of
Jane Stark:like that, yeah, if I can fix everyone, or if I can be there
Jane Stark:to make sure everyone's okay, then I'll be okay. And right,
Jane Stark:that pattern of like I can do, it all has shown up. And I am
Jane Stark:grateful that I'm recognizing it sooner than I had in the past.
Jane Stark:So I can course correct. And I've had a number of a number of
Jane Stark:really big signs from the universe, that I need to switch
Jane Stark:gears, I need to slow down, I can't be doing as much as I'm
Jane Stark:doing. And it's, it's interesting, because it's a new
Jane Stark:layer. And it is one of those things where it's like, Oh, my
Jane Stark:God, I thought I dealt with this, like this is really here
Jane Stark:again. But it is in a different way. I'm a different person this
Jane Stark:time. Yeah, I'm seeing it as like a really big and so much.
Jane Stark:So many signs. So many things, cards I've pulled and whatnot
Jane Stark:are all kind of pointing for me that like a big life transition
Jane Stark:changes happening here again. But yeah, you know, I mean, the
Jane Stark:other day, I thought I cracked my tooth from clenching my teeth
Jane Stark:at night. Wow, thank goodness, it's not fully cracked. But
Jane Stark:yeah, I did have kind of I did have a little fracture in it,
Jane Stark:that they were able to just touch up and fill. But the irony
Jane Stark:and the, you know, like that day when I was like, Okay, I'm
Jane Stark:literally like, literally cracking under the pressure that
Jane Stark:I put on myself. And so that's what, yeah, this Full Moon
Jane Stark:really highlighted that for me. And then, you know, and then
Jane Stark:actually on the full moon, basically, you know, we got some
Jane Stark:information about one of my daughters, that is actually
Jane Stark:really good and helpful information, however, also is
Jane Stark:really requiring me to take a deep, deep look at what I'm
Jane Stark:doing and how I want to show up. And just why and where some of
Jane Stark:my struggles come from. And so yeah, it's an it's that message
Jane Stark:like, is just slow down, slow down, and what is really
Jane Stark:important.
Jen Lang:Yeah, what is essential, I was gonna say, a
Jen Lang:tie back to the card that we just drew for this, it is this,
Jen Lang:we have so many choices in front of us and so many different
Jen Lang:directions and so many stimuli, that it can be really difficult
Jen Lang:to choose that one path and I'm definitely being called to like,
Jen Lang:I'm not saying it has to be just one path, but I'm being called,
Jen Lang:specifically out of this Full Moon this week to really track
Jen Lang:down and focus in on what are the activities, what are the
Jen Lang:what are the essentials that will move me and us forward, you
Jen Lang:know, for what we're creating together? Yeah, stop letting my
Jen Lang:energy so be dispersed in so many different directions that,
Jen Lang:you know, like the saying goes well, and
Jane Stark:yeah, like we're and we're both in that right. I
Jane Stark:think we're both would say like we're multi passionate people.
Jane Stark:And again, it shows up in different ways. We have very
Jane Stark:different lifestyles, but and I and you know, it's a question. I
Jane Stark:don't have the answer right now, but it's something that's come
Jane Stark:up in my mind too, as as a multi passionate person. How do how do
Jane Stark:we navigate this way because yeah, I know from my life right
Jane Stark:now and the things that I have on my plate, having this many
Jane Stark:balls in the air is not good. It doesn't like it's not serving me
Jane Stark:and it's not serving my family and it's not serving us and our
Jane Stark:business exam. So, you know, even I want I'm like, I think we
Jane Stark:talked about that a little bit and what we're doing.
Jen Lang:So do you want to break that down for your for our
Jen Lang:listeners, because obviously, we can sit here and say, We're
Jen Lang:multi passionate, but maybe I can talk about, you know, I have
Jen Lang:a recital coming up in two weeks, that will be live
Jen Lang:streamed. And so I've been unpacking how I learned music,
Jen Lang:again, go into rehearsals, practicing again, I've found I
Jen Lang:was, I'm still am fitting into practicing where and when I can
Jen Lang:instead of making my part of my day, and even though I put the
Jen Lang:times in my calendar, usually by the time that time comes around,
Jen Lang:I'm too tired. to, to, that's when that multi passionate piece
Jen Lang:comes in. I can't even imagine if I'd said yes to karate as
Jen Lang:well. Like, yeah, that's just I'd be, I'd be sick.
Jane Stark:So yeah, and I mean, and I've got, you know, Jen and
Jane Stark:I are building, what we're building here together, we each
Jane Stark:still have our own things. So you also still have your own
Jane Stark:clients and your own work that way. And, and sort of why. And
Jane Stark:you've got your areas that you practicing and study like and
Jane Stark:your you know, like your practice, I'm thinking with a
Jane Stark:sale.
Jen Lang:A sale? Yeah. Um, so I'm still working on some of
Jen Lang:that. Yeah, so you've got personal development pieces
Jen Lang:first.
Jane Stark:And so those are choices, their choices, but
Jane Stark:that's also a part of you. And a part of the work you do, right.
Jane Stark:Yeah. And for me, what that looks like is I have a family.
Jane Stark:You know, I have, I actually still have a marketing business
Jane Stark:that I'm working in, I have my own coaching practice. And I
Jane Stark:have what we're doing. And I have, oh, yeah, and I'm part
Jane Stark:time homeschooling a child. Right? So it just asked for all
Jane Stark:of a sudden, I was like, This is This is unreal, this is the
Jane Stark:superhuman part of myself. And this is, the pattern is very
Jane Stark:clear to me. Were I back in the fall. Last year, we homeschooled
Jane Stark:her, and my husband was home full time, and he took it on
Jane Stark:this year, he's gone back to work. And I stepped up and said,
Jane Stark:Okay, I can reduce my work time, I can fit my work into less
Jane Stark:time. And I'll take it on. And I'll work with her because it's
Jane Stark:only part time she also attends an Outdoor School. But what I've
Jane Stark:realized is, I'm not superhuman. And it's eerily similar to nine
Jane Stark:years ago when she was born, and my husband was took on a job
Jane Stark:where he had to travel for work. And I was fairly new, I was
Jane Stark:about two or three years into my own marketing business. And I
Jane Stark:had two toddlers, right. And so it didn't work. I like I
Jane Stark:couldn't, I couldn't do it all with what was with what I had on
Jane Stark:my plate. So anyways, so that's sort of the, but it's a child, I
Jane Stark:like I actually really enjoy the marketing, I enjoy the strategy
Jane Stark:I enjoy the people I work with over there. I love the coaching.
Jane Stark:I love the work that we're doing. Obviously, I love my
Jane Stark:family and my kids, and I want to see the best. So it's, it is
Jane Stark:hard. And I think I'm at this crossroads of like you were
Jane Stark:saying like bringing narrowing that focus and layout. Yes,
Jane Stark:there's all these things. And yes, I enjoy a whole bunch of
Jane Stark:them in different aspects of them. However.
Jen Lang:So a question might be, it's easy to say no to the
Jen Lang:stuff that doesn't let you up. It's less easy to say no to the
Jen Lang:stuff that lights you up, but doesn't necessarily move you
Jen Lang:forward at this time.
Jane Stark:Yeah. And seeing the
Jen Lang:I say that as much for myself as for anybody else that
Jen Lang:listen, that is
Jane Stark:that is like the crux and you hit the nail on the
Jane Stark:head. I think that is the hard part for a lot of us when we
Jane Stark:have all these great things going. Yeah. But again, we're
Jane Stark:split, like in so many different ways. And that's kind of where
Jane Stark:I'm at right now. And oh, and I was sorry, I was gonna say again
Jane Stark:to sort of share with how that's playing out. So back in the set
Jane Stark:like August, September, I think it was Jeff and I decided that
Jane Stark:well, we still each have our own businesses. We wanted to make
Jane Stark:what we were building together a focus and a priority. And so we
Jane Stark:both sort of said to each other Yeah, we're going to, that's
Jane Stark:where we're going to focus our energy and that will almost act
Jane Stark:as, say the funnel into our own like, yeah, there's still an
Jane Stark:option to work with us one on one. But we knew at that time
Jane Stark:that by us trying to segment our energy into building our own
Jane Stark:personal individual practices plus building what we were
Jane Stark:building together didn't make sense. And it was just splicing
Jane Stark:everything. Yeah, we made that choice. I think now, for me, I
Jane Stark:know I'm at this point of having to look at I'd like to say the
Jane Stark:things that light me up, but I need to let go of because I've
Jane Stark:had so much on my plate that I haven't been able to show up for
Jane Stark:what we're doing together in the way that I want to, and in the
Jane Stark:way that what we're building together needs me to. And this
Jane Stark:is the also, the beautiful blessing of a partnership, Jen
Jane Stark:has had a little bit more capacity and has been able to
Jane Stark:step up and keep things moving and going and brought two
Jane Stark:clients into our first program. And I'm so grateful for that.
Jane Stark:Yeah. And it's been a really good lesson again of like, okay,
Jane Stark:what is possible? And what, what really, is the thing that I want
Jane Stark:to build and grow?
Jen Lang:And what, what do we want to focus on, which, again,
Jen Lang:is such an easy question to ask, but not necessarily an easy one
Jen Lang:to implement. Unless, you know, unless you've chosen a field, or
Jen Lang:we're a business or direction, that it's a single thing that
Jen Lang:lights you up to no end. And, you know, in which case, the
Jen Lang:world needs all kinds of people, we need multi passionate people,
Jen Lang:and we need people who are focused on specific paths. So
Jen Lang:the multi passionate piece ties in where we are essentially
Jen Lang:creatives. And we have to decide so all of our different fields
Jen Lang:feed into each other. And I'd like you know, even before we
Jen Lang:did this partnership, I had two different businesses going on. I
Jen Lang:had Jen Lang, right speaking coaching, and I had Jen Lang, I
Jen Lang:had sound body sphere, which was the sound healing. And it took
Jen Lang:me a long time for those to meld those two together and be like,
Jen Lang:you know, what, these can all live under one space. Jen Lang
Jen Lang:sound healer and voice coach and speaking presence coach, you
Jen Lang:know, it's, it's kind of all in one, voice activator, still
Jen Lang:deciding on the terminology. But it's, I think, similar to you,
Jen Lang:Jane, where you had the marketing and the health
Jen Lang:coaching, yeah, you've had those two pieces, and you still have
Jen Lang:your marketing and your one to one clients are still they come
Jen Lang:in through the door of health coaching, but, you know, we have
Jen Lang:our healing. This is also why what we co create is so
Jen Lang:powerful, because we can put all of our multi passionate talents
Jen Lang:under one roof.
Jane Stark:Absolutely. And it's not. And I think that's the
Jane Stark:other place is coming to like, it's not necessarily like
Jane Stark:letting something go, we're like, Okay, I have to let
Jane Stark:marketing go. And I'm just going to be in coaching. Because what
Jane Stark:we're also seeing you and I is our roles in this, this
Jane Stark:partnership together, right? And I can see and we're seeing where
Jane Stark:I get to bring my marketing brain and my strategic brain to
Jane Stark:what we're doing. So what if I can shift that focus, so I'm
Jane Stark:still having these, you know, I can still be in there coaching
Jane Stark:and practicing, like, in that sense, and doing the energy
Jane Stark:healing and all this beautiful stuff that we do together, and I
Jane Stark:can exercise my strategic marketing brain? And that's the
Jane Stark:beauty of it. So I think, yeah, one of the answers is, it's
Jane Stark:finding, it's figuring out how those things can coexist in
Jane Stark:harmony versus against each other. And I've been in this
Jane Stark:place where I, it's felt a little bit more like a battle
Jane Stark:for my energy, everything needs my energy, and how can I bring
Jane Stark:those together is sort of is one piece of it. Another piece of it
Jane Stark:is just also though, what do I have to say no to to just create
Jane Stark:that space. Especially, you know, knowing that that's the
Jane Stark:message I'm getting at home is just I need, I need a little
Jane Stark:more space, I need to be able to support, you know, at home in a
Jane Stark:different way.
Jen Lang:So that's a really good, like place to sort of
Jen Lang:pause and go, you know, you can get to a level of where you've
Jen Lang:transmuted something that, you know, you talked about your
Jen Lang:health event nine years ago, where you couldn't do it all and
Jen Lang:your body was like, nope. And then, you know, now you
Jen Lang:recognize the signs earlier. And like, similar to me with my
Jen Lang:overscheduling, I've recognized I was like, Oh, I'm just not I
Jen Lang:don't have capacity for this. And it's just, it doesn't mean
Jen Lang:that like, one and done, I've dealt with that thing. It's
Jen Lang:never going to come back again. It's that you've like you said,
Jen Lang:You're the new you a different person than you were nine years
Jen Lang:ago, just like we all were. And that is just another layer and
Jen Lang:another level to unpack, unfold, discard, and it'll probably go
Jen Lang:faster. And now we can recognize it for talking about it to the
Jen Lang:public. So that was kind of cool. And that whole note, what
Jen Lang:do you have to say no to? It's hard to say no to the things
Jen Lang:that you love. And I think this also ties back to our Episode
Jen Lang:Two episodes ago when we're talking about happiness and
Jen Lang:fulfillment. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And sometimes they can code.
Jen Lang:Sometimes they coexist in an activity and sometimes they
Jen Lang:don't. Yeah. And so how do you choose or rank which activities
Jen Lang:no matter what they are, whether they're paid or family or
Jen Lang:otherwise, how do you choose which ones? You know, sometimes
Jen Lang:you don't have a choice you have you have to show up for your
Jen Lang:family there is like I have to show up for my dogs if I don't
Jen Lang:take the dogs out well, yeah, exactly. It's an S, which I love
Jen Lang:doing that. So if it's more a question of choosing the
Jen Lang:activities that bring you both happiness, and fulfillment, and
Jen Lang:or combining the ones, we've talked about combining those
Jen Lang:different areas, so that they are more fulfilling. Yeah, or
Jen Lang:choosing something completely new that meets both criteria.
Jen Lang:And that makes it easier to say no to stuff and it doesn't have
Jen Lang:to be no forever. This is the other part. Yes. You know, it
Jen Lang:could be not right now. Like I took that conscious pause from
Jen Lang:karate in September. On then I emailed them again in January. I
Jen Lang:said, I'm still taking a pause until at least April. So, yeah,
Jen Lang:and April, all the side, you know, okay, maybe I'll go back
Jen Lang:just once a week, instead of four to four times a week.
Jane Stark:Yeah. Yeah, it Yeah. And how, you know, so how is
Jane Stark:that playing out? In what we're doing? Like, it's just thinking
Jane Stark:about bringing that back to kind of behind the scenes. So that's
Jane Stark:what's going on for us, personally, lots of shifts. And
Jane Stark:I think we both agree, like, this is what we want to build.
Jane Stark:Yeah. together. And so it's about really, this new level of
Jane Stark:okay. That's my, that's the priority, how can I create the
Jane Stark:space? And how can we kind of double down on what we're doing
Jane Stark:without putting the pressure or adding more to our plate. And I
Jane Stark:think that's, you know, that some of where I've seen, like,
Jane Stark:I've been having to do some stuff in the cracks of my day
Jane Stark:for, you know, what we're building and getting, you know,
Jane Stark:our sales page built out and things like that. And I'm like,
Jane Stark:what actually brings me joy and fulfillment is to have the space
Jane Stark:and sit down and work on something like that, you know,
Jane Stark:in the day and give it the proper energy, because I also
Jane Stark:feel, I also wonder, you know, we know that our energy comes
Jane Stark:through in that way. So we have to be really clear. And in that
Jane Stark:right space, when we're creating,
Jen Lang:yes, I'd like even the gospel of like, I wrote a love
Jen Lang:letter for our community, which if you're not already signed up,
Jen Lang:we'll share the love letters link. I wrote our community love
Jen Lang:letter yesterday at 4am, because I was awake because of the full
Jen Lang:moon. And it was, again, one of those things that I was trying
Jen Lang:to fit in. And I didn't know if I was gonna do it the night
Jen Lang:before. And I thought, You know what, I'm just going to call it
Jen Lang:a night go to bed, did not know I was going to wake up at 4am.
Jen Lang:But you know, it all worked, that part of it worked out. But
Jen Lang:I just certainly don't want to make that a habit. I want that
Jen Lang:time and space to write from a space of lightness and
Jen Lang:expansion. Without it being four in the morning.
Jane Stark:Whoo. So I think that's a good word place to
Jane Stark:leave this. And then that lets like, you're going to get more
Jane Stark:of us. Jen and I are I think like the what you were saying,
Jane Stark:right? And how, watch for how things shift as we even shift
Jane Stark:how we're going to show up for we are Jen and Jane, for this
Jane Stark:podcast for all of what we're bringing to the world. Like, I
Jane Stark:think, to full circle this conversation. We're both in this
Jane Stark:place of right. We committed to this back in August, September.
Jane Stark:We're showing you the bumps, it's not perfect. The ups and
Jane Stark:downs and all the things and you know, but we're both looking to
Jane Stark:create that space and show up even more fully.
Jen Lang:Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're gonna see more of us. There's
Jen Lang:more community calls coming. More ways to interact. Let's see
Jen Lang:off the top of our head. can join us on Instagram Live at 645
Jen Lang:to 7am. Monday to Friday, we hold seven minutes of silence
Jen Lang:together. So we have a preamble. So just do make sure you just
Jen Lang:follow us on Instagram at we are Jen and Jane just as like it
Jen Lang:sounds. Community calls. You're coming up twice a month now or
Jen Lang:every two weeks. Yeah, I think it's first and third Wednesday's
Jen Lang:of the month.
Jane Stark:And the community calls are really a to give you a
Jane Stark:sample of what it's like to work with us. A sample of you know,
Jane Stark:even just a mini container for the bigger container that we're
Jane Stark:building with our fear serenity program, which I think both of
Jane Stark:those the community call and then the bigger program are for
Jane Stark:people who women a lot. It's mostly we're working with.
Jen Lang:We are open to men. So if you are a listener and you
Jen Lang:are male, we'd love to hear from you.
Jane Stark:But some but you're on your journey. You're on your
Jane Stark:healing journey or maybe on a spiritual journey. You may be
Jane Stark:doing some of your own healing work. independently and are
Jane Stark:looking for community are looking for. So it's, it's, it's
Jane Stark:very much there's lots of support, there's like I'm with
Jane Stark:my hands I'm forming, I'm talking with my hands right now
Jane Stark:Taner build container. So it's very like, there's their
Jane Stark:structure in that way. But this is not, it's not come and learn
Jane Stark:a specific tool or a specific thing. It's come and be
Jane Stark:supported, come and be in community and belonging with
Jane Stark:other people who are on this journey with you. And Jen and I
Jane Stark:are here to lead that. And to create that container, and to
Jane Stark:share our expertise and our gifts with you. But just sort of
Jane Stark:wanting to share that as to delineate between what our
Jane Stark:community calls are, what of your serenity group program is,
Jane Stark:versus some of the other programs that are out there?
Jen Lang:Yeah, so the community calls are just like Jane said
Jen Lang:that many. That's that place where you can come show up, get
Jen Lang:to know us, and then fear serenity is more of a, I'd say,
Jen Lang:a higher touch environment and looking at, like looking at
Jen Lang:aspects of your life through the lens of fear serenity.
Jane Stark:Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly. Right. And for
Jane Stark:serenity, we that's a concept that Jen and I are really
Jane Stark:working on for ourselves, then. And it's different for
Jane Stark:everybody. But that the idea, the framework of it, the whole
Jane Stark:goal of this program is to help you identify what fear serenity
Jane Stark:looks like for you, and to identify who you need to be in
Jane Stark:order to embody that and what tools so we can teach you some
Jane Stark:additional tools to help with that pulling out whatever tools
Jane Stark:you have in your toolbox. But it is definitely a much more
Jane Stark:expensive program. That way, we will probably be bringing guests
Jane Stark:in. So there will be yes, there will be opportunities to learn
Jane Stark:from other people and other hear other perspectives within that
Jane Stark:container. Whereas the community call is about Hey, show up. You
Jane Stark:want a little bit of, like, boost to feel good vibe. And you
Jane Stark:know, just to maybe what's on your mind. Yeah, exactly.
Jane Stark:Yesterday, we had a great conversation around boundaries.
Jane Stark:Yes. In our call yesterday. So yeah, lots of really juicy
Jane Stark:topics in those in those calls, and they're free and they're
Jane Stark:every two weeks. So it's a great way to come and be in our space
Jane Stark:in our energy and
Jen Lang:we'd love to meet you. Yeah, so cool. Okay, happiness.
Jen Lang:Let's wrap this up. Get this out to y'all. And I said y'all, even
Jen Lang:though I'm not American, anyway. Whoo. And yell. Oh, y'all what's
Jen Lang:happening to me? Okay, awesome. Good. laughs everybody, have an
Jen Lang:awesome day. Take care. We'll see you next time. Thanks for
Jen Lang:joining us for these conscious combos. If you're ready to dive
Jen Lang:deeper head on over to we are Jen and jane.com to continue the
Jen Lang:conversation.
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