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In this episode, Jen + Jane discuss the gifts of living in a polarized world and how we can notice our strong emotional responses and use them as a stepping stone to deeper compassion for those around us and for ourselves.
When we unplug from extremes, we can find a greater sense of peace within.
Additional Resources/Reading:
● Nurse trades hospital job for long-haul trucking - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nurse-quits-saint-john-hospital-for-long-haul-trucking-1.6319579
Questions for further guidance:
● What happens when you stop avoiding the thing that evokes that response and start looking at what the gifts are inside that viewpoint?
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Jen believes in the power and wisdom of women’s voices. She’s a guide for women who want to tune into and align their inner voice so their outer voice can shine; uniting physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual energies into a powerful voice ready to share your message.
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Passionate about energetic alignment and living life from a place of personal power, Jane is a heart-centered leader, certified health and life coach, and marketing strategist. She leads others to play bigger and feel lighter by helping them see and navigate their blocks and connect more deeply with themselves.
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Jen Lang:Hi, everybody, and welcome back to another episode
Jen Lang:of no halos here with Jen Lang and Jane Stark. Hello. So
Jen Lang:excited to be podcasting together again and Jane
Jen Lang:recovering from an illness.
Jane Stark:It's been a long couple of weeks. Yeah. Okay.
Jane Stark:Somebody actually this morning, I had a meeting. So he was like,
Jane Stark:Happy New Year. I'm like, Yeah, feels like this is like, Finally
Jane Stark:happy new year because her and I both went down with the illness
Jane Stark:right before New Year's. Wow. Like so weird. I don't know what
Jane Stark:day it is with what the date is. But I feel like it's like mid
Jane Stark:end of January, right? Yeah,
Jen Lang:it's the 20th. Today.
Jane Stark:Yeah. Okay. New Year's sort of starting? Yes.
Jane Stark:But yeah, let's jump into what we're going to talk about today.
Jane Stark:Because it's a good topic.
Jen Lang:It's been it's a rich topic. And we are, oh, gosh,
Jen Lang:we're so motivated to talk about it actually started with a love
Jen Lang:letter that we sent to our community. Earlier this week,
Jen Lang:where we were talking about, I was reading about actually
Jen Lang:holding the polarity between two positions. And there has been
Jen Lang:plenty going on in our lives that has been asking us or
Jen Lang:sometimes forcing us to make decisions, one or the other one
Jen Lang:or the other one or the other. And it's not always at, it's
Jen Lang:easy to get sucked into, you're in, you're out black and white.
Jen Lang:You know, I'm just gonna call it backs or non backs. But there is
Jen Lang:more to the conversation. And what Jane and I want to talk
Jen Lang:about today is when you're presented with a decision that
Jen Lang:is based in two polarities, have you given yourself the
Jen Lang:opportunity to explore the myriad of nuance between those
Jen Lang:two polarities? And then can you rise above it to rather than
Jen Lang:being sucked into one side or the other? Can you rise above
Jen Lang:and see all areas and the all the in betweens of that
Jen Lang:position? Mm hmm. Not an
Jane Stark:easy? No, it's not. And especially in times, like
Jane Stark:right now, where we are living in complete duality and
Jane Stark:polarity. Yeah. Yeah, being the importance of being able to it
Jane Stark:doesn't mean you have to agree. Yes, with all different sides,
Jane Stark:but being able to kind of move on. So the term that I always
Jane Stark:use that I was taught as a resonance field. Yeah. Can you
Jane Stark:explain what that is? Yeah, just trying to think of how to unpack
Jane Stark:what a resonance field is. I mean, a resonance field is
Jane Stark:something where, you know, there's a trigger or topic a
Jane Stark:subject that comes up and we have a reaction to it. So
Jane Stark:typically, a resonance is like you have an emotional reaction,
Jane Stark:you have some sort of often physiological reaction to
Jane Stark:something. But when you can actually move, so if you picture
Jane Stark:like an oval, and on each end of that oval, might be black and
Jane Stark:white, you know, two opposite ends of the spectrum? And can
Jane Stark:you move along that oval to the different sides, or to the
Jane Stark:middle, or to just like being being able to move or you're not
Jane Stark:so stuck in one end of the spectrum, and often because
Jane Stark:oftentimes, when we're stuck, and we cannot see the other
Jane Stark:side, or we are we're so emotionally triggered by it,
Jane Stark:it's actually a sign that that's where we need to do some
Jane Stark:healing. And again, the healing is not because you need to get
Jane Stark:to the other side, because it doesn't, it doesn't actually
Jane Stark:matter whether you're on the left or the right. It's the fact
Jane Stark:that you're stuck there. And so, you know, I think that's a big
Jane Stark:it's a big piece of what we're seeing right now, where people
Jane Stark:are stuck. Yeah. And it's showing our stuff. It's showing
Jane Stark:ancestral healing that needs to happen. You know, our own our
Jane Stark:own emotional healing and where that needs to happen, and it's
Jane Stark:been very interesting. I've like I've personally had these
Jane Stark:experiences in my training when I was going through my quantum
Jane Stark:healing training in the summer, where you You know, we had to
Jane Stark:find some of these topics and subjects where we felt, you
Jane Stark:know, really stuck, and then go in and do some of that healing
Jane Stark:and that emotional release. And it's really fascinating
Jane Stark:actually, when you can start to feel yourself sought after.
Jen Lang:And there's so many different ways to do it. So you
Jen Lang:don't just have to do it in a quantum healing way. It could be
Jen Lang:through a different spiritual process. You know, like, last
Jen Lang:year, I read A Course in Miracles with a small group. And
Jen Lang:that really helps to soften the hard edges of a polarity of any
Jen Lang:situation where you might you know, where you meet someone and
Jen Lang:and you can send them love instead of being triggered by
Jen Lang:their behavior. Another example, easy example that I kind of
Jen Lang:wanted to bring forward would be so for example, when I was a
Jen Lang:kid, I hated mushrooms. And if we put it into like a food
Jen Lang:context, I hated them. I found them repulsive, I had a strong
Jen Lang:emotional reaction. Well, I just didn't have mushrooms in it. And
Jen Lang:even as a young adult, I still had that reaction. And then I
Jen Lang:started being able to, you know, presented with different types
Jen Lang:of mushrooms, I'd be like, Oh, this is okay. You know, and I'm
Jen Lang:like, okay, so then I used to joke I was like, I only like
Jen Lang:expensive mushrooms. So I would get like a mushroom sauce on
Jen Lang:mistake and it would be made with you know, big forest
Jen Lang:morels. And I was like, Well, that's pretty tasty. It's not so
Jen Lang:bad. And then I've graduated now to a wild mushroom blend, I can
Jen Lang:have wild mushrooms. And that's, that's pretty okay. Still not
Jen Lang:here. Not a huge fan of the grocery store variety, white
Jen Lang:mushroom, standard white money's mushrooms. But I have been able
Jen Lang:to diffuse my strong emotional reaction to disliking or hating
Jen Lang:mushrooms. And so this is this like a very simple accessible
Jen Lang:example.
Jane Stark:No, that's a good example. Like, even when we were
Jane Stark:doing our training on this actually like the diet, the diet
Jane Stark:industry is a great example of this right? Where you see like,
Jane Stark:milk is good for you. Oh, no, milk is bad for you. And cheese
Jane Stark:is good for you. Nope, cheese isn't good for you. You know,
Jane Stark:it's all about the margarine. Oh, margarine is the devil.
Jane Stark:Like, you gotta eat butter. Right? And so we see these and
Jane Stark:it flip flops. And, and so you know, what if we could get to
Jane Stark:this place where it's like? Gluten, let's use gluten as
Jane Stark:example. Yeah. Right. So it's like, maybe, maybe glutens. Bad
Jane Stark:for you? Maybe glutens. Okay for you. How about some people can't
Jane Stark:tolerate gluten, and some people can. And so we can move along
Jane Stark:that. So it's not this. It's not this absolute gluten is the
Jane Stark:devil. Right? Which is where, you know, we can often see
Jane Stark:people and you know, and fair enough. Like there's two people
Jane Stark:that can't tolerate gluten that are like glutens, the devil and
Jane Stark:nobody should eat gluten. But then there is there is another
Jane Stark:camp, right? And we're all and in that example, it just kind of
Jane Stark:shows to how we're all bio individual. Yeah. And so there
Jane Stark:is that need to be able to move along a spectrum?
Jen Lang:Ooh, so if we use this food and say diet industry
Jen Lang:example. So for our listeners, if you find yourself reflecting
Jen Lang:on some of your own positions on food and diet or exercise, how
Jen Lang:can you apply your willingness to be curious about different
Jen Lang:aspects of food industry? And what works for you? And what
Jen Lang:doesn't? How can you apply that same technique or pattern to
Jen Lang:other areas where you have a strong position or a strong
Jen Lang:emotional reaction? And just go, Well, if this was butter, and
Jen Lang:the other was margarine, you know, and it helps to diffuse,
Jen Lang:you know, it becomes almost comical and light and creative
Jen Lang:way to look at, I don't know, like, if you like, Donald Trump
Jen Lang:is margarine. And Hillary Clinton was butter. So then you
Jen Lang:can look through, I guess we have the lens in the past. But
Jen Lang:if we look at those two examples, who are triggering
Jen Lang:individuals, for a lot of people, then you can go Okay, so
Jen Lang:what's the, you know? What, how can I soften and change my
Jen Lang:perspective, and to see more of the story and more of what's
Jen Lang:possible? It doesn't mean you're in one camp or another, it just
Jen Lang:means that you're willing to look at maybe there is some
Jen Lang:accuracy in what this person said versus you know, what is
Jen Lang:the other person trying to hide?
Jane Stark:And maybe it's their truth. You mentioned something
Jane Stark:in the in our love letter about people becoming righteous in
Jane Stark:their rightness. Yeah. Which I really liked. And I think that
Jane Stark:is a big part of what we're seeing right now. Right is yes,
Jane Stark:we all have values, and everybody's core values are
Jane Stark:different. And this isn't about shifting our values per se, but
Jane Stark:it's about like, I feel like when we can start to move along
Jane Stark:this resonance field or this spectrum, then we open up space
Jane Stark:for this kindness and compassion for others as human beings
Jane Stark:whereas when we're so stuck in our like, you say like our
Jane Stark:righteousness about our rightness for whatever it is we
Jane Stark:believe. And there is an endless number of topics out there in
Jane Stark:the world right now that we all of a sudden, like, that's what's
Jane Stark:breaking my heart is seeing how, how uncompassionate we can be
Jane Stark:towards others because they don't have the same beliefs as
Jane Stark:us or, you know, the divide that it's creating. And again, this
Jane Stark:is not, is to be very careful, this is not about making one
Jane Stark:side right or wrong. But being able, being able to, to have the
Jane Stark:level of awareness to see that you know what one person's
Jane Stark:reality is. And truth is, might not be yours. And
Jen Lang:exactly, I think that ties down to the Boyett bio
Jen Lang:individuality around the food example, just as you are have
Jen Lang:bio individuality around what you what your body tolerates
Jen Lang:enjoys, doesn't tolerate there is that that same pattern is
Jen Lang:reflected in our soul selves. So your soul self always benefits
Jen Lang:from a broader perspective, because it actually links us
Jen Lang:more closely together, why don't we find those commonalities more
Jen Lang:easily than those differences? What brings us together, that's
Jen Lang:what will move us forward. Yeah, so as you reflect on this year
Jen Lang:ahead, because of course, we're early in 2022, as you reflect on
Jen Lang:this year ahead, and I purposely use that word reflect, because
Jen Lang:it's whatever you want it to be. And start to imagine what it can
Jen Lang:be like, when you open your perspective to a wider variety
Jen Lang:of inputs, rather than being so married to a particular
Jen Lang:position.
Jane Stark:And one way to start doing that might be to notice,
Jane Stark:if you have a really hard time understanding or even
Jane Stark:entertaining another, another point of view and asking, like,
Jane Stark:why is that? What am I? Yeah, why am I so strongly against the
Jane Stark:thing? And again, there's no judgement, the answer is not
Jane Stark:right or wrong. And it's not about changing your actions.
Jane Stark:It's just about that higher level of awareness and
Jane Stark:understanding of self and of society.
Jen Lang:Yeah, I'd like you said earlier just brings that
Jen Lang:space, it opens up more space for compassion for others, and
Jen Lang:also compassion for yourself. Because through that method of
Jen Lang:inquiry, and through being curious about your feelings
Jen Lang:around, you know, why do I feel this way, and noticing those
Jen Lang:feelings, instead of judging yourself for having that
Jen Lang:feeling, it's more about noticing, go ha have that
Jen Lang:feeling. It's linked. I recall, it's linked to this particular
Jen Lang:incident. Or remember, I didn't like that incident, or I had and
Jen Lang:then it follow the basically follow the breadcrumbs of that
Jen Lang:memory and that strong emotional reaction. And then either, you
Jen Lang:know, clear it for yourself, or get the support of people who
Jen Lang:can help you clear it, or can help you move through it. And
Jen Lang:the faster you move through these things, I feel like the
Jen Lang:more I'm used the word organically, but the more
Jen Lang:aligned is probably a better, the more aligned you will feel.
Jane Stark:Yeah, I was we were chatting yesterday, sort of
Jane Stark:along the same lines, but this word integrity, yes, it's been
Jane Stark:really big for me this year. And what we're seeing, again, if we
Jane Stark:look at, you know, the collective and then our
Jane Stark:individual, that micro, and I think this is another way, it's
Jane Stark:like this year, somebody said to me the other day, this year is
Jane Stark:all about cleaning up our integrity, AND, and OR all about
Jane Stark:stepping more into our integrity, I should say, and
Jane Stark:cleaning up the things that have us out of integrity. And so that
Jane Stark:can look like anything, right? It can look like Oh, I haven't
Jane Stark:been paying attention to my bills and my finances. So that's
Jane Stark:out of integrity, which is going to play out in various ways in
Jane Stark:your life. So let's start looking at that and getting the
Jane Stark:bills paid. Health for me. My health, this illness that I've
Jane Stark:had, there was something you know, I think I've done some of
Jane Stark:my own sort of reflection and soul searching on what it not
Jane Stark:what it means I don't want to make it like Oh, an illness
Jane Stark:means something all the time, but my health is out of
Jane Stark:integrity. That's your body's way of saying okay, there's
Jane Stark:something that my body needs. And again, that's not to say
Jane Stark:that we should never get sick. I think that's that's part of
Jane Stark:human nature. But you know, looking going, Okay, it's time
Jane Stark:for me to now nurture my body even more. Yeah.
Jen Lang:And your well being it's not just your body. Yeah, I
Jen Lang:think it's all of those aspects of self where if you haven't if
Jen Lang:you're stuck in a thought pattern, or a loop for like a
Jen Lang:thought pattern loop That isn't serving you and you're
Jen Lang:perseverating on it, then that's something for you to look at
Jen Lang:notice, like, Oh, hey, I'm stuck in this loop. And, well, that's
Jane Stark:so that's a part of what I worked through, right? I,
Jane Stark:I really, without going into too much detail, I in the past have
Jane Stark:sometimes had trouble trusting my body to heal, and tend to,
Jane Stark:like, I get anxiety around being sick, and oh my gosh, I'm going
Jane Stark:to end up not so much like hypochondria, like stuff. But
Jane Stark:just like, I've ended, I've had experiences where I'm like, oh,
Jane Stark:and I got this complication, or this has come up. And this time
Jane Stark:through this illness, I really like, that was a big piece for
Jane Stark:me, where I'm like, this is an opportunity to change my
Jane Stark:relationship with myself and to really uproot this belief of
Jane Stark:like, my body can't heal properly, or it's like,
Jane Stark:something's going to happen. And so, you know, I've spent a lot
Jane Stark:of time just sinking into this. And, you know, I trust my body,
Jane Stark:my body knows exactly what it needs. I have supports, I ended
Jane Stark:up, you know, on antibiotics, thank goodness for the Western
Jane Stark:medical system that was able to support me, and you know,
Jane Stark:getting that and being like, perfect. So now here's this is
Jane Stark:what my body part of what my body needed to give me that
Jane Stark:lift, and my body knows what to do. That's been a big focus of
Jane Stark:mine for the last couple of weeks. And that feels in
Jane Stark:integrity for me. Yeah. And I think this, this idea of the
Jane Stark:integrity piece, we're seeing it on the collective level too, as
Jane Stark:we're seeing cracks in our foundations, right? We're seeing
Jane Stark:these various different structures, definitely be pushed
Jane Stark:to limits that we've never seen before.
Jen Lang:What is also all the big structures that we've
Jen Lang:established that have brought us to where we are that really have
Jen Lang:no way I'm gonna say way, but have though they have no,
Jen Lang:they're not the same structures that will bring us forward. And
Jen Lang:so they need to collapse. And they this cracks are showing
Jen Lang:we're seeing this in healthcare. We're seeing this in education.
Jen Lang:We're seeing this in our political system. In fact, I
Jen Lang:wouldn't call the financial systems I've actually argued
Jen Lang:that in the political system, we've been seeing it develop
Jen Lang:over the past 2025 years, where you're having these elections
Jen Lang:that are close to call, so close to call, or you're having this
Jen Lang:pendulum swing, and voter apathy, and especially in the
Jen Lang:democratic system. And so and then the healthcare system,
Jen Lang:it's, you know, obviously, the past two years have been really,
Jen Lang:very such a huge burden on people who working in health
Jen Lang:care and medical care, and particularly nurses and doctors,
Jen Lang:who aren't necessarily getting all the information that they
Jen Lang:require, nor are they getting the support. Yeah, yeah. So
Jen Lang:we're seeing this now where people are reaching that
Jen Lang:breaking point, I think there was a news article the other day
Jen Lang:about a nurse who quit her job to become a long haul trucker?
Jen Lang:Like No way. Yeah, in New Brunswick. And so it's really
Jen Lang:interesting how people who have been in an industry that they
Jen Lang:infrastructure that they genuinely care about, and are
Jen Lang:reaching a point where they're like, this does no, this no
Jen Lang:longer serves me, nor does it serve humanity, we need a new
Jen Lang:way of moving forward. We're seeing that in our provinces
Jen Lang:mental health care structures, which are piecemeal, myriad, and
Jen Lang:even I think you've experienced, like long waits to see the
Jen Lang:psychologist for an assessment and those those kinds of pieces
Jen Lang:that people who are really struggling in mental health
Jen Lang:can't get the access hadn't get the access, or it's so many,
Jen Lang:like hoops and papers. And did you call this person and please,
Jane Stark:absolutely, I mean, don't get me started on it. But
Jane Stark:I've had, you know, what I've been? Yeah, navigating in the
Jane Stark:past couple of months is really been I, what's not even past
Jane Stark:couple months, it's actually the past couple of years, it's been
Jane Stark:very eye opening. In terms of also the disparity. It Yeah,
Jane Stark:it's it, you know, we hear all of this stuff. And when it
Jane Stark:starts to like, when you start to truly experience it, you
Jane Stark:know, it's hard, right? We hear this stuff, we hear this stuff,
Jane Stark:and sometimes until it hits close to home, you're like,
Jane Stark:Whoa, but you know, it's, I'm in I'm in a very fortunate
Jane Stark:privileged position where I have resources. And I have the
Jane Stark:ability to keep pushing, keep pushing, but you know, what I've
Jane Stark:witnessed and experienced, I can see how somebody who just
Jane Stark:doesn't have that those resources would have a really
Jane Stark:hard time getting the help they need because yeah, we're having
Jane Stark:a hard time getting the help we need and we have the resources.
Jane Stark:Fascinating. Like, so. Yeah, back to you know, there is these
Jane Stark:cracks in the foundation. And I think, you know, one of the
Jane Stark:things I think we need to start facing those, you need to stop
Jane Stark:turning a blind eye and we need to stop numbing ourselves and
Jane Stark:going mutts to like, I know it's a lot. It's
Jen Lang:all too much. I don't want to look I don't look well,
Jen Lang:it's going to become more and louder until you look at deal
Jen Lang:with what's right in front of like,
Jane Stark:what's Yeah, yeah, we need to look at the fact that
Jane Stark:nurses are burning out, you know, like teachers are better
Jane Stark:you don't you know, somebody who just recently had to go on leave
Jane Stark:like Doctor mandated her leave
Jen Lang:her GP. Yeah. And then she called her manager and her
Jen Lang:manager hung up in frustration. And so me, that's another level
Jen Lang:of frustration that, you know, managers can't get the staff
Jen Lang:they need staff. I'm this is threads throughout all of our
Jen Lang:current structures. So, I mean, we're going to continue this
Jen Lang:conversation, I think this is going to come up in more
Jen Lang:episodes. But what are a couple of take quick takeaways that our
Jen Lang:listeners can? You know, bring forward for them?
Jane Stark:Where do we go? Well, I mean, I think one of the
Jane Stark:things with all of this, you know, when it can get very
Jane Stark:overwhelming when we're looking at the bigger picture, the, you
Jane Stark:know, the collective societal type stuff, but it always starts
Jane Stark:at home, right? It always starts with ourselves. So again, you
Jane Stark:know, looking at coming back to the this idea of integrity and
Jane Stark:looking at your own life, and what's out of integrity for you,
Jane Stark:in your own life, what needs to be cleaned up and start there,
Jane Stark:start with the like, it really is the small stuff,
Jen Lang:totally small stuff. What's and what's easy. Start
Jen Lang:with the smallest, tiniest step you can. And maybe it's like,
Jen Lang:I'm gonna bring up the meditation thing again, just
Jen Lang:listen to a five minute meditation before you fall
Jen Lang:asleep. Or maybe it's you buy,
Jane Stark:like purging
Jen Lang:cameras and getting rid of stale
Jane Stark:old that you don't need. Yeah. Talking about
Jane Stark:checking in, like what we talked about in the beginning, right,
Jane Stark:starting to just ask, getting curious about your, your
Jane Stark:thoughts, your beliefs, your standpoints on things, when you
Jane Stark:feel really stuck on one end of the spectrum, get curious and
Jane Stark:ask why and see if you can just loosen some of that up. But
Jane Stark:yeah, I mean, I think it really does just start small, it starts
Jane Stark:with ourselves in our homes. And slowly, if we're all kind of
Jane Stark:working towards that same thing, we'll get there.
Jen Lang:We'll get there. And I'm just going to add, we
Jen Lang:believe in you. This is like let's just end this on a really
Jen Lang:like beautiful, expansive note you have, you have what it takes
Jen Lang:inside to move through this. And it's that process of self
Jen Lang:inquiry, self compassion, noticing, and the supports are
Jen Lang:out there. We're here we'd love to hear from you. How do you
Jen Lang:reach out to support reach out to you, you know, even if join
Jen Lang:our community calls and definitely,
Jane Stark:like we're gonna unpack this even more, we do a
Jane Stark:community call once a month where we Jen and I show up on
Jane Stark:Zoom for an hour. You can find out information as to how to get
Jane Stark:the links for those by going to the link in our bio and in our
Jane Stark:show notes.
Jen Lang:Joining are joining our love letters list. And that
Jen Lang:is a place to start with support. All right on that happy
Jen Lang:note. We love you. Have an amazing day. And we will speak
Jen Lang:to you soon. Bye. Thanks for joining us for these conscious
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