July 26, 2023

The Divine Intelligence Of The Children With Dr. Therese Rowley

The Divine Intelligence Of The Children With Dr. Therese Rowley
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Season 1

Dr. Therese Rowley joins the podcast today to talk about the children! Dr. Rowley comes to the table with a wide body of work including supporting: parents and their children, individuals wanting to understand their patterns and lives, and businesses seeking to transform. Dr. Rowley inadvertently became involved in working with parents and children many years ago when she read her client’s energy and information from their home life came forward which was important to their overall picture. Dr. Rowley consults with parents and children with a variety of diagnoses. Through energetic readings, she gathers information on the child and recommends appropriate developmental pathways. This interview is compelling and earth shattering in its breaking open of current paradigms.

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS (what you’ll learn):

  • How Dr. Rowley supports individuals and businesses align their inner world with their outer world
  • Why the norm is not necessarily healthy to strive for
  • Everyone has a backstory and a reason for being here on planet Earth
  • How children are showing up differently to usher in a new era and create a new ‘map of reality’
  • Support for teachers in classrooms with a variety of children to teach
  • Third eye intelligence and being able to see a multitude of possibilities

About the Guest:

Therese Rowley, Ph.D., CEO of Accelerated Alignment, is a skilled intuitive/healer, speaker, author, educator and trusted advisor to business leaders, executives and professionals. She partners with them through complex challenges of personal and organizational strategy and transformation, using innovative approaches and intuitive intelligence. She provides intuitive insight to parents of intuitively and spiritually gifted children, helping them better understand and practically support them. She teaches courses based on The Rowley Method for Reading and Healing in the Quantum Field. Dr. Rowley has been adjunct faculty at the University of San Francisco, the University of Chicago Graham School and Booth School’s LEAD Institute, as well as Northwestern University’s School of Continuing Studies where she has taught on topics of leadership, strategy, intuition and transformation.

Find Dr. Rowley here:

https://thereserowley.com/

References within Podcast:

https://www.howardgardner.com/

https://www.danielgoleman.info/

https://www.heartmath.com/

https://www.safespaceprotection.com/

About the Host:

Maureen Spielman is the Founder of Mystical Sisterhood, a podcast dedicated to bringing more joy, healing and expansion to the world. She is a seasoned life coach who supports individuals through one-on-one coaching, groups and workshops.

Connect with Maureen:

● Check out her Instagram: @maureeenspielman

● Learn more about her work at www.maureenspielman.com

● Want to join our Mystical Sisterhood Membership community? Find out more here: https://www.maureenspielman.com/mysticalsisterhood

● Email Maureen at hello@maureenspielman.com to inquire about coaching, podcasting & speaking engagements

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Transcript
Maureen Spielman:

Hello and welcome back to mystical

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sisterhood. This is Maureen Spielman. I'm excited for you to

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be here. Today, I am joined by Dr. Therese Rowley, an intuitive

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whom I had met nine years ago. For our personal reading, Dr.

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Rowley founded accelerated alignment and partners with both

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individuals and businesses to address complex challenges. She

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also provides intuitive insight to parents of intuitively and

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spiritually gifted children, helping them better understand

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and practically support their children. Today we talk about

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the changing landscape of how kids are showing up and what we

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can do to support them in their evolution. Join me for this

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fascinating episode, and I'll see it in the episode. Hey

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there, welcome to mystical sisterhood. This is your host,

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Maureen Spielman. I started the show to highlight the

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intuitives, healers and other courageous women that I've met

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along my journey and continue to meet. Through amazing

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interviews, I seek to ask insightful questions to uncover

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ways in which you the listener can apply the wisdom and

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knowledge to your own life. I believe that we're all in this

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together. So sharing healing and joy, and bringing community

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together is both my passion and purpose. If you'd like to learn

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more about the mystical sisterhood community I'm

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building please visit www mystical sisterhood.com See you

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in the episode.

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Welcome back to mystical sisterhood. This is your host,

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Maureen Spielman. And today I am already thrilled to be sitting

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down with Therese Rowley, PhD, she's the CEO of accelerated

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alignment. She's a skilled intuitive healer, speaker,

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author, and educator. I couldn't even take all the time to read

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this bio, because it's so long and extensive. And I know that

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you wear so many hats, but the one that we're going to kind of

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be delving into today is this idea of your work around

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providing intuitive insight to parents of intuitively and

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spiritually gifted children, helping them better understand

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and practically support the kids. You are also the executive

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producer of the DVD, the misdiagnosis of gifted children.

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And you have a book called mapping a new reality,

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discovering intuitive intelligence. And there's a two

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part video series on intuition as intelligence that goes with

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this. So there's a lot of body of work that we can refer to

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that I always put in the show notes, Dr. Rowley, but I want to

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say to you that you have your own method called the Rowley

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method for reading and healing in the quantum field. And that's

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developed from your work, facilitating over 12,000

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intuitive readings and healings. So really, a huge thank you and

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welcome for being here today.

Dr. Therese Rowley:

It's an honor morning, always fun to be

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with you. Thanks for inviting me.

Maureen Spielman:

So fun. You came to me. You just discovered

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nine years ago, I I thought it was around 10. So it was in the

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ballpark. And it was when I had received your name from a friend

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who said maybe Dr. Rowley would be nice for you to talk to

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because I was I had questions about one of my children. And so

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even nine years ago, I remember going down to your office in

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downtown Chicago, I can remember I remember the day clearly. And

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I sat with you for just a really expansive reading about my

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child. And it gave me gifts, tools, gifts for me to

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understand him. Tools, it was just like I would say back then

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because he was younger, just a different lens through which to

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see him, which I have, in so many years, it's always been a

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touch point for me, because I have a feeling that children are

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coming in looking wildly different than they did in the

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past. And I'm always curious about this conversation, and you

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have so much to say about it. So first, I mean, one of my

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beginning questions was, and you may start wherever you want, but

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how did this become an area of interest for you?

Unknown:

Oh, yeah, thank you for asking because it came in a

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little bit differently than you would think. I wasn't aiming for

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this call. Like the whole population of kids. What

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happened is that I was working in business, I was doing large

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scale change with a lot of leaders. And I was always

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helping them to align their inner world with their outer

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world. So what what were they doing at a soul level? And how

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was what was going on in the corporation, really prompting

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their growth in that area. And so some Sometimes I would do

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readings for them. And I would find that they had stresses. And

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sometimes I would say, this isn't related to work. And, and

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a couple of times, they said, you know, tell me about your

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children, and they would start to talk about their children.

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And then I began to look at the whole energy field of children.

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And it was quite interesting. Many of them had capacities that

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were not common among adults, and many of them had diagnoses.

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And I began to see that some of the diagnoses were related in my

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book to intuitive intelligence. And so that's how I began to get

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very curious about this area. And I ended up at a conference.

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That was for new children. And I don't even know quite how I got

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there. And I ended up talking to people, we're doing a film on

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the misdiagnosis of gifted children and adults, by a guy

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named Jim Webb, who wrote the book on it. And these guys

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wanted to actually do a major motion picture on it. And so at

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the time, and so I ended up being an executive director on

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this misdiagnosis of gifted children. And then I ended up

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with a license to it, I have no idea how that all unfolded,

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because that wasn't where I was going. So this this area felt

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like it was it was asking me to go there. And I was not only

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fascinated, but these children are extraordinary. So I felt

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honored to be part of it.

Maureen Spielman:

Oh, wow, Ivan, that's a fascinating story of

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just the I think you were just saying before we hit record that

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this spiritual path is laid out before us, and so that those

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doors opened and you went that direction. And it's a

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fascinating area to be looking at. I think especially now in

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2023. But it reminds me too, that speaking, there has been

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people tapping into these intelligences or what is

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happening within children and the gifts that they're here to

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come in with something. Well, I guess I'll start with a question

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of, how would one know because the way that's in your bio, So

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correct me if there's a better way to say this? Or, but how

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would one know if a child was spiritually or intuitively

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gifted? Or there was something there to take a look at?

Unknown:

Yeah, well, I think first of all, what the children

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are teaching us now is that every one of us has a different

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way of learning. And so I'll start there, because our entire

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education system and Sir Ken Robinson has wonderful videos on

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this on YouTube. It kills creativity. And it talks about

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the norm as though that's a good thing to strive for. And the

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norm is, the lowest possible bar you can do in life is to try to

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be normal, that's the lowest possible bar. And yet, we're

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setting it up as the one that well, because your child isn't

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normal. Basically, you've got to do this to get them to be

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normal, instead of saying, What if every single child had their

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own purpose, which they do and their path to expressing, and

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developing that purpose, has nothing to do with the system

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you've created in the past, to try to get people to be normal.

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So from the start from the get go, it's more about the system

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than it is about the children, we have to follow children

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because the evolution of the planet is a fact. And that every

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generation should be in a different place because the

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brain development should be bequeathed. There's an Harvard

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they did a they did a whole series of experiments on rats,

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where they electrified a maze, so that the rats who would

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ordinarily go towards the light, if they did that, they would get

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electric electric shocks. So they've ended up going to the

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dark. And they did this generation after generation.

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This guy's name was McDougal that did the research. And by

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the time the 11th generation came, the mice, the rats were

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going specifically to the dark right away, and I could get

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help, I probably have that reverse, they usually go to the

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dark. And when they went to the light, then anyway, in any case,

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by the 11th generation, they went opposite of the instinct

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that they had, because every generation is bequeathing

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something to the next. And so when we get to these

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generations, not that not only that, but there's a spiritual

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evolution. There's a there's a sort of a saying that says the

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Holy Spirit reveals itself through history. In other words,

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there's a revelation, and each generation brings some some kind

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of Revelation, that should not be what we've known before. So

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these children show up as they should be in evolution, and we

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say, oh, no, they're not normal, which means I don't feel safe,

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because that's not how I understand life, and what

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expression and development should look like as a parent or

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as the school system or as a world. And so I don't have any

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enabling structures to help them develop. So So I want to start

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with that, because I think the children are showing up to show

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us what it looks like in the next evolution. And we're just

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saying, well, that's not okay. You know, and start from there.

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But yes,

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yes. To me, this is very powerful. And

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thanks for sharing it. It's a message that, as I've I've heard

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is okay, like, let you even take the process, preface of every

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individual is has their unique blueprint and reason for being

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gifts that they have to share. And I think that those it's a

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such a worthy concept to revisit over and over and over again,

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because you begin to understand it more deeply. Like we might

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say that sort of like on a topical level, but to really

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believe it at almost like in a place of embodiment, like, okay,

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are we really going to hold this as truth? It starts to, it can

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hold more promise for kids? If Does that make sense?

Unknown:

Absolutely. And to and to reinforce to children that

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they have, every child has a reason for being here, they're

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called here, they're invited to be themselves and to find out

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what it is in, that brings them joy, what is it that that they

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find that that they can that inspires them, and that almost

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prompts them to express their greatest joy? That's why they're

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here. And if every child knows that, then we say, how can we

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support you in that? That's why I think so many people are

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homeschooling these days, because the system is simply

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inadequate to support the gifts that children come to bring. And

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the parents are wise enough and have the capacity to do that. So

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that the children can be reinforced for their gifts and

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not in an environment that punishes them for having that in

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a way that's different than the norm. Right for that has that

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has spared I'm especially it especially, you know, some of

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these IEPs especially get to me, because I think, Well, every

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child needs an IEP, how do you learn? How do you take a test? I

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didn't take tests. Well, I don't know about you. But I was

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terrible in testing. And if you give me an essay, I could get an

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A every time because I could say, well, it kind of works this

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way. And it also can where I can make arguments for both sides.

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Because my brain actually is synergistic, which is another

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intelligence that no one measures because IQ is related

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to rational intelligence, which is one of as Howard Gardner puts

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it, he names 11 intelligences. And now, you know, we have

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Goldman who said, emotional intelligence is important that

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wasn't even in Howard Gardner's list of, hey, it isn't just

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this, it's all these and he said, By the way, emotional

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intelligence is there. And we've now found out that emotional

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intelligence is more important to leadership success than then

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in then academic intelligence IQ. So if that's the case, then

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and we're finding out that these things we need to do in life,

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all of the roles that we have to do are better served by

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intelligence we intelligences that we don't even measure in

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school. How in the heck do we keep honoring the system that

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doesn't measure what we need for the success of the planet?

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Right, and the success of our communities? So I think this is

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it's just a it's a signal to the system to re organize and to

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find new ways to support and develop children who have new

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gifts.

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And do you feel that? Obviously, it was an

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invitation for a reset of a lot of systems when we went through

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the pandemic? Have you seen any shift like because I feel like

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what you're saying to I heard you the other day, say this The

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term and it can mean one thing it can mean different things?

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I'm not sure but like this worldview, because when you

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describe a universe where children are fostered from a

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young age to tap into what is your giftedness? Then I see like

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this population just like it's very, it's it's very abundant.

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It's it's not. I'm wondering, like, do you see a worldview

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like that? Or what does that worldview look like for you?

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Right? So we even in business, we say either, there's

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just one pie with specific segments. And when you take

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mine, I have less, or we see innovation, beginning to

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increase the pie and the size of the pie so that everybody can

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just have more. So the current system of education is is

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reductive. It's very much about this is what we have, if you

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don't get it, you're out this competition, you're not good

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enough. If we said everyone we have our job is to explore what

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it means to have this gift and then that person gets to expand

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their gifts and teach the system. What else so that

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there's an expansive universe and we're responding and

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respecting that we're responding to that and respecting that. So,

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you know, I worked with the web, YMCA, the YWCA for several years

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and helping them to move from a non Profit to social enterprise.

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And I worked with a woman named Jordan Porter, who is the CEO.

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And it was really about how do we, for example, the people that

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worked with trauma, because they were working with kids who had

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had great deal trauma, or the parents, and they would get

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secondary trauma from that counselors. But their job, as

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they thought about it was to help this person get back to

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normal get back to survivability, right, to get

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back to the place where they could at least find the ground

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under them. So what we did is that I was in a big turn a

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person workshop on this, and I said, but what if your job was

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to see trauma as leverage for finding someone's essential

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gifts? And connecting them to opportunity? What if trauma is

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prelude to break through, not for survivability, but for

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thriving? And that's the paradigm that I'm talking about

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back in the education system? What if it was not about getting

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the right grades to get to the next level to get to the next

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level to get more money to get to the next level? But what if

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in competition with each other? What if we were teaching each

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other about what's possible in the creative process, and

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expanding the world? Look at the problems, we have a look at the

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complex problems we have these kids are here to to they have to

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solve these complex problems, or the planet won't exist, right?

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Or the planet will or will these will go down for the count on

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the planet. So they have to have the freedom to innovate beyond

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the known solutions that we have present to us. And if they don't

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have the freedom, or even the capacity within themselves to

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trust that that's what their job is or that that's what they have

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the the license to do. Because we we acknowledge that and

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validate it, then they say, Oh, I'm just not good enough. Well,

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what a waste of life. In other words, what how about what you

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know, there's all these things, we don't even know how to cross

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disciplinary solutions that are there. We don't even know them.

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But you will, because we can let you explore everything. And we

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want you to tell us as you explore it, what occurs for you,

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right, so that we want to learn from them. They're the leaders

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for the next generation, we want to foster that and foster that

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confidence in them that that's what they're here to do.

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Yeah, I'm just thinking, Well, I'm going to the

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public school system right now, because so many of us have kids

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in the public school system. So you're kind of working, if you

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believe in this, which I this is this is my worldview that you're

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speaking of, and it's giving me more knowledge, more momentum,

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more energy around it. So I thank you for that even sort of

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mid interview, because it's the messages that, obviously, you

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have to be a receptor for them. But then it does. I think you

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about like the messages coming into the public schools, like

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where do you see, I want to talk about, like, some ways to to

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help transform, or is it not the is it not going to the school?

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Is it working on an individual level level working within

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family systems? How? How do you do your work, first and

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foremost? And then maybe we'll get to some of the other things.

Unknown:

Yeah, I mean, and I think every person because every

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person has a specific, you know, their creative purpose within

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them. Some people have an orientation. And I talked about

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three different levels of orientation. And one is

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uniqueness. And that is the reference to oneself, because

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some people are doing something that's very unique, and they

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need to feed that so that the world can share it. Let's talk

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about Monet or Renoir, you know, how do they feed their gifts so

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we can share in the results of what they do? And then there's

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the people that are we and that's more, you and I

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community, I learned through relationships, we talk a lot,

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there's social aspects, I need that I thrive on it. And then

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there's people who are unity people who are thinking and

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asking questions such as, what's my what's my mission in the

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world? And how can I make the greatest impact? They're not

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talking about? We are talking about the world? And how do we

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take care of the world. So everybody has a different

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orientation. So when it comes to saying, Well, what do I do, for

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example, to influence the system that my child is in, you have to

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be respectful and honor the orientation that you have and

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not try to do something that isn't in your that? Because that

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isn't yours to do? If it isn't your joy, it isn't yours to do.

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So if you if you have a you know, even this, this collective

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thing I remember going to when my daughter is also in public

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schools, and I went to the teacher and I said, Well, could

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we put my daughter has this going on? Could we find a way to

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work with lots of different like, we had counselors we had

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maybe a teacher involved, we had an administrator and said, What

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if we set something up that would help all the kids in this

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sort of way? So I took what I knew was going on for her and I

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broadened it to understand that a lot of kids at her level might

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have something similar. So how did you How could we accommodate

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that? So that's just something that I thought to do and it did.

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Well, it was good and it worked. But someone else might just say

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help. Let me help the teacher understand how my child work,

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right. So I mean, I remember telling the, the teacher, my

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child knows how to be safe, because she uses her words a

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lot. And if she's sometimes if she's not talking, she doesn't

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feel safe. So when she talks a lot, it means she's trying to

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feel safe, where she doesn't in that moment, and she's working

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on it. So don't don't punish her for talking too much, just to

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help her find a structure that that's okay. And because that

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will make her feel so. So then. So the teacher has a clue that

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right, so whatever we understand about each other, we can help

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the teacher with or if or if we're systems oriented, we can

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go to the principals and start working on other models, which,

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which I also did bring in other models. But what I'm doing when

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I'm reading children, is that I'm looking at their energetic

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matrix, I'm looking at what did they come to do? And how are

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they related to parents? And what's the relationship so that

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I can elucidate that, and help parents see their children

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differently, and therefore serve them differently. Because the

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idea is that if I, if my child is acting out, for example, and

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they keep acting out, and I'm, you know, I'm not in a good

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place anyway, um, maybe my spouse and I are not having a

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good time, and I'm trying to be a good mom or good dad, and I'm,

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and I'm telling this child, you know, everything's fine. And,

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you know, why are you acting out? And I get upset about that?

Unknown:

Well, what we don't know is that that child is taking on the

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unspoken feelings of parents who are not acknowledging to the

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child what's true. Yeah, so the child is experiencing

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dissonance, the mom or dad's going, No, everything's fine,

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honey. And the child's thinking, everything's not fine. And their

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nervous system is going this now there's really something wrong.

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Not only wrong, because there's something wrong, but something

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wrong because mom doesn't know or dad doesn't know there's

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something wrong, and they're telling me a lie. They can feel

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that energetically. So now they're acting out of the

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unspoken feelings, and then they get punished. So I mean, that

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just understanding that when, from an intuitive standpoint, if

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I can help someone say, well, here's some words that you might

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use, if you want to consider to talk to your child about what's

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going on, so that they get coherence. Because childhood

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children respond better to coherence between what they see

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and what they feel. Yeah. And then, and then they're a little

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more settled, and then we find words to help them through since

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then they don't have to act out of what's not theirs. So those

Unknown:

are that's just an example of,

Maureen Spielman:

yeah, that's, that's a great example. Have you

Maureen Spielman:

seen a shift? Because that, that reminds me of, I'd say, one of

Maureen Spielman:

my children experiences where, when it's detected that, like,

Maureen Spielman:

the truth isn't being told out loud, and there's some

Maureen Spielman:

suppression of like, oh, everything's fine, that he will,

Maureen Spielman:

he will come and say, No, that's not, that's not acceptable to

Maureen Spielman:

me. And he'll be the one stepping into more of an adult

Maureen Spielman:

role. But do you see that with more and more kids that it's

Maureen Spielman:

almost like the as they're breaking through that there's

Maureen Spielman:

less tolerance for old ways?

Unknown:

Well, less less tolerance for non truth telling,

Unknown:

especially if they're old souls. My daughter went said, I said,

Unknown:

you know, your job is to obey me, you're a kid, she goes,

Unknown:

Well, she thought that she said, I don't obey you. If I think

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it's a good idea. I'm like, what? Yes. So they're, I mean,

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they're just like, you can't, and so to respect the wisdom and

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to say, you know, like, to acknowledge Oh, so you feel like

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that's not true. Tell me about what you think. And just to give

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them the space to express it, instead of saying, Well, I know

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that, you know, as I used to say to my, my child, when she was

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like two or three, I'd say, I'm a mama, you're the baby, I'm the

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boss of you. And she'd say, I'm the mama, you're the baby. I'm

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the boss of you. And she was like two years old. I'm like,

Unknown:

Oh, here's what I'm in for.

Maureen Spielman:

Exactly. And the way so many of us were

Maureen Spielman:

raised that that didn't really it took it takes a reset. I see

Maureen Spielman:

this part of the parent in here. And if we're if we're in any

Maureen Spielman:

sort of system, but I'm thinking because we're talking about kids

Maureen Spielman:

in the school system, that knowing like let's say someone

Maureen Spielman:

were to go to you and get information about their child,

Maureen Spielman:

then there's that intermediary step where a parent really truly

Maureen Spielman:

believing in that and bringing it to the system, which we may

Maureen Spielman:

have put almost like hierarchy all above us. Like there can

Maureen Spielman:

feel like fear in that like a speaking your child's truth,

Maureen Spielman:

your family's truth, your truth. So that takes that's also a new

Maureen Spielman:

sort of, I don't know if you'd call it it's a way of being I

Maureen Spielman:

was gonna say, is it an archetype of like this, this

Maureen Spielman:

person that's going to stand up for the truth in the in the

Maureen Spielman:

parental role as well?

Unknown:

Right. I think that's really about understanding as

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parents that we chose, this time in history to come in and be a

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different kind of advocate for our child's so that the system

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can eventually evolve. And we can do that by acknowledging

Unknown:

that, you know, and I've said this to a lot of teachers, I

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wouldn't, I don't even know why how you can do what you do, you

Unknown:

know, I don't even know, you know how you have the patience

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to get through it with all that is on your plate. And I need to

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let you know about my child, because, you know, I have to

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advocate for my child, it's important. So I appreciate

Unknown:

everything you're doing. And we can talk about this, but I need

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a different strategy for how this is working. So that you can

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acknowledge and honor the work that's being done there. That's

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honestly being done in another paradigm like, and the people in

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the system are working according to the system to the very best

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of their ability, and most of them are heroes. Most of them

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are heroes that are trying to accommodate differences while

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being told that there's a system that doesn't honor differences.

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And they're and they're working both at the same time. So I

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really have a huge respect for teachers, period. I mean, there

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are teachers where I've said, Yeah, I don't even want my

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daughter exposed to that mindset. Yes, it really said

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that, like, yeah, no, it's not okay for you to say that my

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daughter, but on the on the main, they're all like, I think

Unknown:

they're 99% heroes. And we need to acknowledge that as we

Maureen Spielman:

Yes. Present. Well, we're sorry. I think that

Maureen Spielman:

that's right. And I'm so happy that you gave that sort of

Maureen Spielman:

acknowledgement and appreciation for the heroes, the teachers, if

Maureen Spielman:

you had a message for the teachers who are in the

Maureen Spielman:

classrooms, they're seeing all these different presentations of

Maureen Spielman:

the kids like coming forward, which I imagine is quite

Maureen Spielman:

overwhelming, I totally agree with you, I know that that

Maureen Spielman:

that's not my work to do. But is there a message at this time

Maureen Spielman:

that you would send to them or a way to look at when you're

Maureen Spielman:

dealing with this collective of children within a classroom,

Unknown:

I can't imagine being put upon being told that my job

Unknown:

is very much about measuring children as they're developing

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period. So first of all, that, I don't know how they do that. And

Unknown:

they do that, and they do it well. And they do it with a lot

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of things that represent both the unfairness of a subjective

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system, as well as Bernie people's reaction to it. And so

Unknown:

I would say that the teachers are, really, if I think of it as

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nurses, nurses were the healers, not the doctors, because they

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could spend a little time with the patient, and they could

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touch their arm, or they could comfort them, or they could see

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what was going on on an emotional level, and connect to

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it. But now they're told they have 10 to 15 minutes per

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patient, and here's the drugs they need to give. And don't

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tell him about that. And don't talk to him about that. That's

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why they're all quitting in droves. They didn't come to be

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pill pushers, they came to be healers, the same thing with

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teachers, they didn't come to get into some standardization so

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that their kid could be normal. They came to teach children to

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develop, they came to to fluster their development. So I would

Unknown:

say, you know that the teachers already have what they have. And

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it is about they connect with children's hearts. And when they

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connect with their hearts in the moment, they're trying to give

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them what they need, and help them develop through what they

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can sense is going on. And most of the teachers are doing that.

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And then they have to be put upon on the system that says,

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nevermind that. What about our measurements. So And granted,

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there has to be some systemic connection to fostering that

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development. But there's so many alternative schools now that are

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understanding how to bring children to a better place of of

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knowing their gifts and developing them in the process

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of school that don't have to do the same system. So I would just

Unknown:

say to teachers, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,

Unknown:

thank you. And I get it, you are there to foster the development

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of our, the growing of our children's development through

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their heart. And that is what makes you a great teacher. And

Unknown:

if you keep focusing on that everything comes from that

Maureen Spielman:

beautiful reflection. That's going to

Maureen Spielman:

speak to a lot of people. And even for parents in these

Maureen Spielman:

systems, just to know that about teachers is great. It's great

Maureen Spielman:

information. I am thinking then, how we talked about just as we

Maureen Spielman:

met last week about the topic, how we're also conditioned to

Maureen Spielman:

look at things than the way a child is coming into the earth

Maureen Spielman:

being as if it doesn't fit the system, it's a disorder. And so

Maureen Spielman:

we kind of let's talk about that because I think that there's

Maureen Spielman:

some gold there in for how we view what we're seeing a

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disorder versus a gift.

Unknown:

And some of this came as I was I worked with a

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pediatrician at one point and sometimes he would just give me

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a child and say, talk to me about what you see here. And he

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was also a Chinese medicine physician duly certified and I

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would look at the child and say, This isn't about the child is

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about the mother, and the mothers. And the mothers got

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this, and here's what's going on. And so that'd be helpful in

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his helping child. But we started to then do, I said, a

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lot of times, I was defining what I saw. And I wanted to do a

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study on this, we presented it to Lurie Children's Hospital,

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but it didn't quite make it through. But the idea was to

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say, if I could, if I could, quote unquote, energetically

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diagnose the children, while he did it medically. And he would

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call something perhaps an ADHD or a DD according to the

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symptoms that the child's symptoms, behaviors that the

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child was exhibiting, and I would look at him the child

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energetically and we would compare. And we would see if

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there was a critical mass of data that showed there was a

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parallel between the diagnosis of one kind, and the intuitive

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intelligence of another. So I'll give you an example of this.

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Children with ADHD are often said to be not able to pay

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attention for long periods of time, that they can't sequence

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things that they can't ground, and that they're hyperactive.

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And so some of those behaviors are present in those in those

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diagnoses. What I see when I look at many of those children,

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and I haven't done enough study to say that I have, you know,

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I'm a qualified to say this, but the but the question, the

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hypothesis I have about this that I would love to get into a

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legitimate study is that they have wide open third eyes. So

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they come in with capacities for clairvoyance, which means clear

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seeing, which is located in the middle of the two eyes and down

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from the crown of the head. And the function of the third eye is

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to see things in neutrality. Now, the SUTA NSA see the truth

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in neutrality, to look at something and see the truth

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neutrality, but this function comes through pictures, images,

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symbols, visions, dreams, it does not come through sounds, it

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does not come through feeling it does not come through knowing it

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comes through a picture like a movie without any sound.

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Sometimes without any knowing just the picture, sometimes you

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get the impression of the picture. And you know, so the

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other thing that the third eye can do is to see multi

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dimensional realities, as opposed to the two I see

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physical. And the third, I can see multi dimensionally. So in

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quantum physics, particle physics has proven that there's

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seven realities going on simultaneously. Quantum physics

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tells us there's at least 11 that they have in their theories

Unknown:

are their own math. But particle physics doesn't care. They the

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string theory in quantum physics says that it's all connected.

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The particle physicists are more mathematicians, they couldn't

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care less about all that nonsense. They want to prove

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things with math. So those guys put together a math thing. And

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they were the ones that said, there's seven dimensional

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realities that can prove mathematically. So now you're

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looking at the third eye, and you're looking at well, from

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quantum physics, at least seven dimensional realities, a child

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may be brought in and be able to see multi dimensional realities

Unknown:

through the third eye, and their eyes wide open and looking at

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it. Now what happens when you look at a picture? And let's say

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you're staring at a picture, let's say it's just one picture,

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and you say to somebody, okay, please sequence this picture and

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tell me what's most important, and what's the priority? And

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you're thinking it's a picture, there's nothing priority, I

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could say that guy's a priority, because I like him. Or I could

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say that one's prominent, but is that the one that's supposed to?

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So kids are? So that's, that's a perception that they're having.

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And it's a receptor site for the stimuli that comes in. So other

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stimuli comes in, that may come in just in one picture, and they

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can't sequence it. And people say, What's wrong, you're not

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normal. You can't you can't sequence things. Well, they

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can't sequence it, because they're looking through

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pictures. That's why we started to help children learn things

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through their particular strength, even if you don't have

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my guests to be able to see that. You can say my child is,

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let's and I have a relative that's, that has this could look

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at a play or a television program, or video and memorize

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it the first time through. I mean, absolutely embody it.

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That's someone with a wide open third eye. Now, when they're

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looking multi Dimensionally, there are children and I've

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talked to a guy who has what I think it was a boy school in

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Canada. And he was at a psyche kids conference I went to, and I

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talked to him and he's the head of he started the school. And he

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says, because he was one of the counselors at the school and the

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kids would come be given to him like here, you've misbehaved go

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to the counselor. And he would say, why aren't you paying

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attention? And the kid would say, Well, I don't like what's

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going on in China. Now these kids had like, no access to

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papers or internet at the time or anything. So what do you

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mean, what's going on China? Will all of the people are in

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trouble, and they're all doing this and he would describe it

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completely. And then then he would go to research and find

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out that in that moment that was going on in China, that there

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was a terrible disruption. It was on the news, blah, blah,

Unknown:

blah. This kid didn't know it. So here's this kid having

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feelings about something that's not even local that he doesn't

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know about. And he's announced, like, why can't you sit still?

Unknown:

What's wrong with you? You're not an A student, because you

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can't see. So they say he's not paying attention. And I said,

Unknown:

Oh, he's paying attention in more ways than you have the

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capacity to do you have no idea how he's paying attention. So

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it's not whether he's right, I just want he's paying attention

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to that. We have to be more, we have to be more compassionate

Unknown:

and astute and discerning about asking, What are you paying

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attention to not that you're not paying attention to me? What is

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it, it's, sometimes it's just an overwhelm? That happens because

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there's so much going on in their receptor site, that they

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can't organize it in a way or process and until they're in

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their 20s, the cerebral cortex doesn't formulate that capacity

Unknown:

to sorta look at impacts in the future. Look at what might

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happen until their 20s. That's why they say, you know, they

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heard this one policeman say that 16 year old boys are the

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dumps creatures on the planet, because they have all this and

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energy, all the strength, all the smarts, but they can't make

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leaps and look at the consequences. Yeah, so they end

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up running into things, you know, like, oh, and that means

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that Oh, yeah. But it's because of the great brain capacity. So

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So these children, let's say, with that wide open third eye,

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they're diagnosed with something, and then they're

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given drugs, the drugs will not help them develop that capacity,

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it will not help them to get better, but it will mask their

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sensation of the stimuli coming into their receptor sites. So

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they don't notice it's coming in. It doesn't stop it from

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coming in, it just dulls their awareness of it. It's just like

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taking ibuprofen or aspirin, it'll dull your pain, the

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feeling of pain, the pain still there, right. So that's what's

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happening with with same thing with the drugs will stop the

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pain of overwhelmed, but it won't stop the developmental

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pathway won't help that. So if we could, and there's my bucket

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list, teach children that that's an intuitive gift. And that they

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have, they can be at choice for how they the aperture of what

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they're looking at in their third eye. In other words, if

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they imagine a third eye in the middle of their head, and they

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imagine there was an island, they close the eyelid? And then

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look at things and what would that be like, and I do this with

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students and the glasses when I teach my method in healing in

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the quantum field and reading, that you have your choice for

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what you perceive through your intuitive receptor sites, by not

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unless you know you have one, that it's a gift, and how it

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works. And then you can have choice, right? So if we could

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teach the kids Oh, you can open it up, and you can close it

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down. And let's see what this is. What is that like for you?

Unknown:

Right, and the basics of that are the basics of their energy

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field where they don't know that they're spreading their energy

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out inside of an entire room. And they're aware of every

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thought, every feeling that everybody's having, and they

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don't know how to process that, then they quote unquote, backed

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out of it, because it's overwhelming, right? And people

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are like, Oh, this kid overwhelmed, give him a drug,

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you know, like, and I don't think anybody's parents that

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Cavalier, because they're just trying, every parent is just

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trying to help their child feel safe, and be safe, right, and be

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able to even live in this society where it's all

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competition with a child that's very amazingly gifted in a way

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that is not honored. So what else what other choices they

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have? I always say, and sometimes I see, I can see what

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medication does, I feel that I can see that sometimes it's

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helpful to bridge where they are to where they need to be

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sometimes that just brings a little bit of balance, and

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sometimes it just completely dulls down, which is why I did

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that, you know, produced with Jen waggle, the misdiagnosis of

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gifted children, because children are being diagnosed

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over the phone in 15 minutes by a physician, about here have a

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class three drug, and that'll be fine, because you're acting out.

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And and that is it's entirely unethical and inappropriate,

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because the child, you know, there are pediatricians who are

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neural, they deal with the psychology of children, and they

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do a battery of tests. And they may decide at the end of that,

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that it's helpful for them to, for example, be in a more

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challenging school, some are acting out because they're not

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challenged enough because their IQ is too high for what's being

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offered to them. And so they're acting out. And then others are

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having a chemistry imbalance based on some of their intuitive

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intelligence and some other things. So it's much more

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complex time, because the children are showing us the

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evolution. And we're kind of between times of where we've

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been and where we're going. Yeah. And they're all over the

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place. Chaos precedes order. Right? So we're in this chaotic

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place. And all of us need to be just responsible to our own

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children to sort through what are their gifts and asking the

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question, what are their gifts instead of asking the question,

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what's wrong?

Maureen Spielman:

Great premise. Yeah. And I was one of my

Maureen Spielman:

questions like my sub questions about the medications is that

Maureen Spielman:

sometimes if a child then reports and I guess we don't

Maureen Spielman:

know, but if a child then reports like, Oh, I feel better

Maureen Spielman:

or I'm more a two And or there could be like you're saying like

Maureen Spielman:

some some intersectionality, like some bridge, but also can

Maureen Spielman:

be the this just question but the child's already learning

Maureen Spielman:

what it takes to be as part of the system. So then there's a

Maureen Spielman:

miss identification that it's working, because it's creating

Maureen Spielman:

that puzzle piece to fit the current system, the current

Maureen Spielman:

puzzle, but

Unknown:

I mean, they're selling their kids are smart enough to

Unknown:

sell Adderall and Ritalin, they, I mean, they're selling it to

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each other. Because if you're going to pass a test, and you

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have to stay up all night here, I mean, this isn't about their

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behavior, this is about the system. And it's a shame that

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they have to conform to that in order in order to conform to a

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system that doesn't work anymore, they have to drug

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themselves. How sick is that system, you know, you have to

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wonder if the medicine belongs for the system instead of for

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the child, that it's a system that's sick, not the child. So

Unknown:

it is a shame, but we're in and we're discovering this, and the

Unknown:

kids will help us with this as they go on. Yeah,

Maureen Spielman:

I think I think this gives a lot of, sort

Maureen Spielman:

of, I'm gonna just call it permission, but an area to

Maureen Spielman:

explore for parents, because as we're talking about all this,

Maureen Spielman:

too, if we were to sit into our intuition, as parents of what we

Maureen Spielman:

know about our child, they probably have like, a nice list

Maureen Spielman:

of this is what I know. But then it's the it's the belief system

Maureen Spielman:

of like, and these are okay, and there's a place for this and

Maureen Spielman:

this is also this can create a beautiful life's paths for this,

Maureen Spielman:

this individual.

Unknown:

Yeah, and I've heard people, I've had parents come to

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me and say, you know, I'm, we're moving to Montana, or we're

Unknown:

moving to this or that, why, because my child is sensitive to

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the electric, the 5g towers that they know are completely toxic

Unknown:

to the brain. Yeah. And I always recommend people get safe

Unknown:

protection, safe, space protection.com products that

Unknown:

will stop the radiation from hurting the brains of the

Unknown:

children who are sensitive, because all the radiation that

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comes through computers, and when you open your computers and

Unknown:

says what networks are available, all of the

Unknown:

electromagnetic fields of what's available are already coming at

Unknown:

you. We've never in history had this kind of thing on our

Unknown:

brains. So we need to have at least some things that help to

Unknown:

mitigate that. But yeah, it's a it's a really interesting time

Maureen Spielman:

like that, that I just want to ask a

Maureen Spielman:

question around that how you as an intuitive a healer, a guide.

Maureen Spielman:

Talk to family, if you do at all about technology, and and its

Maureen Spielman:

role with our children.

Unknown:

Yeah, I have in specific in specific readings.

Unknown:

And sometimes I've done a couple of conferences in for parents.

Unknown:

But basically, the idea that it's very interesting, because

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now I see people with one year olds, just here's the, here's

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the computer in front of you, and I'm going to be gone for a

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bit, that's okay. And I understand as a parent, how 24/7

Unknown:

With a child, you're trying to find something, that's that's

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doable. But there are consequences for exposing a

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child to this a great deal of radiation from these devices,

Unknown:

especially before there are two. There are those screens now that

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they have, pardon me that go over the computer. And there are

Unknown:

things on the back of the phones you can put in again, Safe Space

Unknown:

protection. Space protection.com. And I know the

Unknown:

woman that started that, and she's an amazing scientist, as

Unknown:

well as an intuitive and you can put on their phone and we'll

Unknown:

stop the radiation. I see people putting your their phone to

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their ear, Oh, bad idea for the brain. And then I see women

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putting it right here now, like next to their sports bra. And

Unknown:

they've done studies and found breast cancer, exactly outlining

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where they put the phone against the rest. That's radiation, it's

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going into the brain, it's going into the body, their children

Unknown:

are being exposed. So separating, like having distance

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between themselves on the device, putting those screens on

Unknown:

that stop the radiation or reduce it quite a bit are really

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helpful if you're going to do that. Also with kids, there's so

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much violence in videos that it's not helpful to their brain

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is developing either, because and I went into a video store

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once and this was before it was so widespread. I said Is there

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anything in here that is educational, without explicit

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sex or violence in any way? And the owner of this thing went and

Unknown:

he's looking around the ground? He goes, I don't think so. I

Unknown:

said, these are for kids. Yeah. So when we have to go to places

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like there are places like Heart Math. Heart Math is an institute

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that helps kids go into alpha brainwave by doing games, and

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helps them calm down. So you have to research a little bit on

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conscious products for children. So and then some kids need the

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weighted blankets and all of that sort of things, because

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they need to feel the skin on them because they're very high

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vibrate. seeing children and they're very sensitive, and they

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need to feel skin on them. So they need to feel something

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weighted. But as far as technology goes, you know,

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whatever is helpful on a conscious level that you can

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find, and I used to do a lot of research on that, and far and

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few between, but it's growing that area. And you know what

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even go to Gaia, Gaia has a lot of other resources. I don't know

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how well they do with children in technology, but it's worth

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looking at the 5g towers, if it's near, you absolutely need

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to save space protection for the room that takes the toxic

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radiation out of the room, put it in your child's room, do not

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let your child have a cell phone next to their bed, do not let

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them have a television at night, they have to cut it off at a

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certain time, because that really hurts the brain. I mean,

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they were developing, you know, the brains are developing, and

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they're trying to accommodate all this radiation all day long.

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So we have never had in history, this experiment, where children

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are exposed to radiation at this level, this even walking down

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the street every five minutes, especially in an urban city

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setting. They've already shown the toxicity of 3g towers and

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other and 5g They didn't even do the studies, because they knew

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it was toxic. And everybody just wanted faster devices. So they

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didn't do the study. So it's tough to be a ferret these days

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with technology, because it's so prevalent, but there are ways.

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So

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it's it's good conversation, it's good

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reminders, because in some ways, there's so there's so much

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concern, but there can also be a numbing out because it's so big.

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It's so big and that but the there's the radiation piece, and

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then and then this constant barrage of ideas, images

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overload coming at our children to which I have to assume is not

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healthy for them.

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Right? And well, and this is they're going to what's

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going to happen is they're going to have to adapt, it's about one

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of the things that's going to happen is resilience and

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adaptation are the two skills that are going to be necessary

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for them to survive. Yeah, if they if they if we can't help

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our children pivot, and we, as parents have to say, how does it

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feel? We keep having so children, how does that feel to

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you when that happens? Because the children will numb their

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feelings out a way big time. If they have to be what social

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media tells them to be. And they can't be that then they'll

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isolate. We've got COVID they isolated, they've got their

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device, they isolate, they don't their relationship goes down. So

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we can keep saying how do you feel about that? Yeah. How do

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you feel not? What do you think? But how do you feel about that?

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Yes. When that happens, what can you tell us about that? Do you

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think your peers feel the same way about that, because that

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just helps them to open their heart and ask the question of

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themselves, of course, most a lot of kids of certain age will

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say, I gotta tell you, I feel that you're the parent. But if

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you can, anything that you can do to enhance their when you see

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your child, you know, when they're happy, you know, when

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they expand, you know, when they're, you know, anything that

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you can do watching something together, where you know, the

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point of the movie is touching, or you know that you go to do a

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certain thing, and they get delighted. Anything you can do

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to amplify that in their lives and keep pointing back to it and

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referring back to it and referring back to it keeps

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reminding their system that there's a place where the joy

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lives. And they can live in that through both memory and

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recreating it in new ways. So I think that's really a core

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important aspect of reminding themselves that they can come

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from joy, or at least remember to experience it. Excellence

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garage.

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Yeah, there's been so many good guidelines

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that you've set out for this talk today, Therese as I know

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something I want to end with. But before we finish up for

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everything that we've covered, is there anything that else else

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that comes to mind for you that we've that we've left out, or

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that's important to say?

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Okay, one thing I would say is that, first of all

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parents have to know if you've chosen to be a parent at this

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time in history, just call yourself a hero, full stop. And

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then honor yourself for that, and then get the end of the day

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and go, you know, I got to the end of my day, I'm going to just

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I'm going to invite spirit to just comfort me and to

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acknowledge my brilliance and having gotten through it, even

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if I was out of sorts, or I yelled or I did this and I

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wasn't hug yourself because you're picking the hardest job

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on the planet and you're doing the absolute best you can and it

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needs to be no matter what you do, please don't judge yourself.

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It's a long process. And it's a really challenging environment

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and what a great job no matter what honor yourself, self

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compassion, that will be the message for parents.

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It's so beautiful. That's a that's a

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great message. I I was going to add something onto the end,

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which is a little it's something that I've heard you say a couple

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times and I really love and I think it would be beneficial for

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our listeners. But I've heard you say several times that you

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grow in the area that you persistently asked questions in.

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Can you just say something about that I I want to hear from you

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what that means and why it's kind of one of your it feels

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like mantras are principles.

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Yeah, it's a central tenant. And it comes out of

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appreciative inquiry, which is, David cooperrider created

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appreciative inquiry as a methodology in the 80s. That

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looks at how we grow from our strength as opposed to looking

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at what's wrong. And his methodology is really worth

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looking up. But one of the tenants of his philosophy is

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that we grow in the direction we most persistently ask questions

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about. And when we ask persistent questions about what

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brings me joy, or what's the best thing going on in my child,

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or what's the best possible thing that can happen in the

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situation, our brain will go, our cerebral cortex goes towards

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the questions and tries to solve them? Well, if you try to solve

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questions like where's my joy, you'll continue to find things

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in your environment that say, oh, there it is, there it is,

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there it is. If you continue to ask the question, what's wrong?

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Like they do in you know, the traditional psychology, you'll

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find a ton more things that are wrong. And you'll just keep

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finding out what's wrong. So I say always grow in the direction

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you most persistently asked questions about and make those

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questions about what's the best possible outcome, the best

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possible way I could be in this situation has the best possible

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relationship I can have with my child or whatever the whatever

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the situation is, keep asking about joy. And you're doing

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we'll bring you there. Yeah.

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And I feel like when we asked that

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question, knowing that were divinely supported, and in that

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sort of mission, or whatever it is, and it doesn't feel like

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either, maybe it's because I'm getting to know you more, it

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doesn't feel like there's any sort of bypassing of reality of

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that. It's not like, you know how like that you can have,

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like, oh, just think positive thoughts. And it's not that it

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feels more like a guiding question that like there's a

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path and it opens up different avenues, if we are asking the

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most resonant question.

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Yeah, it's, it's a practice. It's a practice, like

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yoga or any other practice you want to do. It's a practice that

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will continue to shape your path towards that, which is Life is

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life is always inviting us to grow. And it's always inviting

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us to find our joy in it. Even when it's difficult and

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sorrowful, we can still say, Wow, I get to feel this deeply.

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And that's a privilege because some, some people can't even

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know that that's, there's a place of growth here. They just

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feel the sorrow they don't know that there's possibility for

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growth. So what that's a place of gratitude. So what in life?

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How can we accept the invitation of life to say, yes, accept the

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invitation that it will change and grow and be confusing and

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confounding, and still insist that we find our joy in it and

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ask that question.

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I think that's a beautiful place to end the

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interview, I want to give you an opportunity to let the listeners

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know where to find you. And any upcoming work you have.

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Yeah, oh, thank you. Yeah. Willing, I'm, thank you

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again, for for spending time with me. It's been it's been a

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really joyful time. And I'm grateful. I'm doing the workshop

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next Tuesday, pop up workshop that intuitively reading energy,

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and I'm going to focus on some empathic, intuitive empathic

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skills in that. And on the 21st, is, I guess, this is just this

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Friday, I'm going to be at visual brothers Art Center.

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Well, I'll be one of 77 practitioners at visual brothers

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Art Center that's been presented, and it's called the

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Energy unlimited. And it's, we were interviewed as people who

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were related to enhancing energy on the planet in whatever way we

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were. And so there's going to be a grand celebration, it's free.

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So look it up. Sure. Our brothers Art Center. And we're

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going to have some classes in the fall on reading and energy

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and quantum field and healing. So I hope people will tune into

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that. And I have my book mapping into reality, discovery into

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intelligence. So thank you for that.

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Yeah, thank you. Thanks for being here. And

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thanks for the listeners, as always, and I'll put, you gave a

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lot of references today to both your own work and others work.

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So I'll put as many as I can in the show notes so people can go

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and discover what really resonated with them. And we'll

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see the listeners next time. And thank you again, Dr. Rob. Thank

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you. It's been wonderful. Thanks, Mary.

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