Shannon Tobin - Dare To Be Youth Charity | LAYC62

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​ Isabel: Hello everyone, and I'm so

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because I'm gonna share a conversation and some tremendously inspiring

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information with a friend of mine.

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I'm so happy we reconnected.

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We had about a decade where we were kind of on different tracks, and in

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fact we were in different countries.

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But today, with me, ladies and gentlemen...

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is Shannon Tobin, who is the founder and the inspiration, the light behind

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Dare To Be Youth Charity,

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and we are this morning, in the snow here in Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

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But I know that what we are gonna talk about is gonna appeal

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to everybody, anywhere in the world, and any age and any stage.

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Shannon and I go back a couple of decades and we shared similar paths.

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We were both entrepreneurs, we were both leaders, we were both mentors.

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We worked with all kinds of people to help them increase their abilities,

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their capabilities, and their success...

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And that's why, there couldn't be a better bond, or connection for me with

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anybody, because she is so aligned with my philosophy of Lift As You Climb.

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We've both believed that the better we become ourselves, the more that we grow

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and develop and expand, the more we are able and capable and responsible...

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To help others build their own success ladders.

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And while I was out of the country doing other things for a while, I didn't

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even know, that Shannon had added one more amazing attribute to her resume...

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And that was starting a foundation, creating a charity.

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Really, and really, I will call it a movement too...

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Because it's an attitude really.

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It's an attitude about how we can start with the younger generation

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in our population and teach them those skills, that confidence,

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that mindset, and how that really supports all economies and all people.

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So without further ado...

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and I will be putting the details of Shannon's bio and her contact

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information in the show notes, of course.

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What we're going to talk about today is her legacy project...

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Which is called Dare to Be Youth...

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and DTBY...

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Which is the one that I usually stumble with...

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dot ca (.ca)...

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We're gonna have that information there for you, so you can learn more.

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Before I take up all of the time...

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Shannon, we were talking before we went on the air...

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That my desire is to help everybody, whether you're a baby boomer like me...

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Or whether you're younger...

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But who do really feel like there is a way that they can act on

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a desire, a passion project...

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To make a difference, to do something, and not be put off by concerns that

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they don't have a good enough idea, or they don't have enough money, or

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they don't have enough experience...

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But that once you get started, there is a process that you can follow,

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so that you can build on that idea, and really act on it, and attract

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the people that will support you, and also lift you in that process.

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Mm-hmm.

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So it's now, what is it?...

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A little more than a decade since you started Dare to Be Youth?...

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Take us back to how that became an idea in your mind, and what were the early

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steps for you to make it a reality

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Well, first of all, thank you for having me, and it's an

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honor to be here and I'm so, so happy that we reconnected Isabel.

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You're such a light in this world and, uh, it's just great to be here.

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Yeah.

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You know, I did not expect DTBY to come out like to, to, to be

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what it is today, but it all started with a personal experience.

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So we all have a journey.

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We all have, uh, experiences in our life that have shaped us, that have,

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uh, grown us, that have helped us.

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And for me, I wanted to give back.

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I wanted to create something that I didn't have growing up.

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And so just a, a little example of that is I lost my dad when I was three years old.

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Back then, we didn't talk about grief.

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We didn't, we didn't have the support.

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And so I grew, grew up in life, um, challenged, um, uncertain about

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things not knowing and making, I would say some poor decisions.

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And so through life lessons and with clarity, really understanding

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kind of, wow, this is that one event shaped who I was at that time.

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And you know, I'm a firm believer that.

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Like, if we surround ourselves with people that help us grow and Lift

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and elevate us, that is only gonna make us better in the process.

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So for me, it was giving back, it was creating something that was a

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way that I could say no, I don't wanna see any child or woman, uh,

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go through what I went through.

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So it kind of started off as.

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It was a, a, my own life lessons and experiences that kind of put that burning

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desire in my heart to do something.

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That's when my book was launched, that's where I was able to support women.

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And that's a whole other, uh, conversation.

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Um, who have been struggling, who were in, uh, abusive, whether it's

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physical, mental, emotional, or financial, um, marriages as that

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is what I had, uh, been through.

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And so it started off as just a, I gotta do something.

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I can't just sit back and not do anything.

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And something small turned into something bigger, and it wasn't even an intentional.

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It wasn't intentional that we grew DTBY to where it was.

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I actually fought the process of growing it to where it's today.

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That's um, that's something I'd like to explore a little deeper

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because I know that you're not alone.

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In fact, I resisted for a long time doing what I'm doing too, thinking.

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That's not possible.

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It's a dream.

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Mm-hmm.

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. Right.

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Uh, so talk about, talk about that resistance and, and where you think

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it came from and how you overcame.

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Well, it's like we always have the, we have faith and fear sitting on

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our shoulders at all times, right?

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The enemy.

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And then there's that spiritual side that is like, you know, I'm, I'm a

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faith build woman and I believe, you know, God has a plan for all of us.

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When you listen to the fear and you, you know, you, you allow it to paralyze you.

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I mean, that's, you know, operating out of a out a scarcity mentality.

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And so for me it was always like reflecting like...

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What am I here for?

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Like, why am I here?

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What is my purpose on this earth?

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I didn't get what my purpose was until truly.

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Um, in the last couple years, like this is what I was called to do.

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Like I have goosebumps as I'm talking about it.

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I'm gonna be 52 in a couple weeks, and so, you know, we think as, as

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you know, young adults, my son's in his grade 12 year and getting

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ready to, to go off to, to college.

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and I said, you don't have to have it all together, like

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your journey is gonna change.

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Uh, but the one most important thing that I've learned over the

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years is that you have to be happy.

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And if what you're doing isn't bringing joy, it's not, you know, showing your

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beautiful gifts and allowing you to just truly be happy, then that's where

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you have to kind of sometimes sit back and go, is this it or is there more?

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And it sometimes also means, Closing doors so that other

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doors for the next can be opened.

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And some doors were closed for me, not intentionally.

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Some doors were, were slammed shut so that other doors could open.

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And so there was a process of, I don't wanna open that next door.

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I'm, I'm scared and a mentor, you know, shared with me many

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years ago, "Do it afraid."

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Like if you feel in your gut, we all have a.

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. And if you feel in your gut, this is where you need to go.

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You, you need to do it.

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You need to do it afraid.

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But if you feel in your gut that that's a red flag, I don't wanna go there, you

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gotta honor your gut and how you feel.

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Because truly, your gut, your intuition is never wrong.

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It really isn't.

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And so I really got in with my intuition and, and what I was truly meant to

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do, not what I was comfortable doing.

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So it was all about, Comfortable being uncomfortable and embracing.

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You are so singing into the choir here.

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My, my word, my mantra for this coming year, this period

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in my, my life is "Tune In".

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Mm.

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That's what I'm, I'm holding very fast to that..., that I tune into my

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gut and tune into my intuition, and I tune into those whispers that are

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coming from our higher self, and trust.

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And it's frigging scary as, as you said, right?

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Like, wow, that's, that's not quite the script that I was led to believe or that

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might possibly put me under the scrutiny and criticism of some people who expect

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me to behave this way or be that way.

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But, but I, so this definitely, there's going to be a, a, a

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sequels to our conversation.

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Mm-hmm.

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, but keeping it today too.

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Okay.

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So you reached a point where, Maybe you were being pushed a little bit

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by, by, um, forces greater than you.

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Uh, and, but you had faith and you trusted and you, you got started.

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Tell, tell us about, of course, in the intro we're, we're gonna talk

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about Dare to be youth and, and what your purpose is and your core values

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and the pillars of the organization.

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But in your own words, tell me what DARE to Be Youth really is about.

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It's a movement dedicated to empowering young adults 14 to 24.

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Like when we say a movement, we are creating a movement.

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And you know, we believe in the power of community as the key component,

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the thriving and wellness, and through our programs, through our

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innovative programs and initiatives.

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We're inspiring and mentoring and building the capacity for tomorrow's leaders.

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So I do believe that, you know, when we step back,

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I've always been on the forefront, on the stage, um, in the spotlight and...

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Came to a realization that I was done with that.

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Like, it, it's not about me anymore.

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I love being behind the scenes.

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And so now you know what I do really, uh, encourages youth

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to step in and we step back.

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And so it's a very much youth led and youth driven.

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Um, yes, it's driven by.

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By myself and my team, um, which is small but mighty.

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Um, but we really believe in, in allowing our youth to really step into their own

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and, and develop that confidence and see where their gifts and talents are...

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Which is, so beautiful, to watch.

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And our programs really just launched in 2021.

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So we took this pandemic we had, I had, again, listened to my gut.

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It was like I had this gut burning desire to do something

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to support our young people.

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Cause I knew the beginning of this wasn't gonna be a two week thing.

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Like they first initially said, oh, it's gonna be two weeks, you gotta stay.

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Yeah, right.

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Two weeks turned into three years.

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Right.

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And I just knew, I followed my gut, my intuition.

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To walk through that.

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And so it was either, you know, we do it or we don't.

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And so I did it and we built a team of people who, who created our

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programs and then we launched them in 21, which was really exciting

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and just finished our second year.

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Um, I can't believe that that's like, I, I, I, I don't

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know where the time has gone.

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Um, but based on the philosophy of me, we community, we offer three part

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programs, uh, for high school students and young adults post-secondary.

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So 14 to 24 to help them build important life skills and develop relationships with

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others and connect with their communities.

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So that's where the me we community, uh, comes into.

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I

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attended one of your fundraising luncheons, uh, couple of

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months ago, and I, I had goosebumps, seriously, up and down my entire

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spine because, uh, when, um, McKayla, I think was yours spokesperson.

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Martina

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Martinez.

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Yes.

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Got the, I got the M right?

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Yeah, we do have a Mikayla too.

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So you, you, you did have it right,

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? Isabel: Well, the.

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The grace and wisdom of that young woman sharing her journey,

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her experience, and what.

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How she was transformed by having that community that you've created

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and the skills that they're learning.

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I was so impressed.

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I thought, oh, thank God.

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Maybe the, maybe the human race can still survive.

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you know, we're, we're, we're starting, we're creating these, um, these pods are

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communities of, of young people that.

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Understanding the value of, you know, relationships and

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communication and fi, financial responsibility and uh, mental health.

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Uh, I was just like, wow, this is phenomenal.

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So thank you.

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Thank you so much for putting that together and continuing

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to drive it forward.

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Well, it was, I was blown away by, by her story, and I had no idea

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the impact until she wrote that, and so I don't even think she really did.

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So again, giving those.

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, the young people like that opportunity to share.

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She, she wanted to share her, her journey, and it took courage.

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Um, but it, it just, it was a confirmation to me mm-hmm.

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that I'm doing the right thing.

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And so we see signs all the time, don't do this anymore, continue doing this.

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Or sometimes we're tested so you have this, you know, experience and is

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this gonna take you outta your game?

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Or is it gonna say, no, I'm not allowing.

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To steer me in a different direction where I know I'm actually supposed to be on.

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Right.

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So, um, it's been a, an incredible journey and I'm just so grateful for the lessons

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that I've learned and I learned from them just as much as they learn from us.

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And I think that's where, you know, humility comes into play, where ego

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gets thrown out the door and, um, it's just been such a gift to walk in

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this journey with these young people.

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Uh, I I thought it was, uh, also impressive that you were able to

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engage the generation that, you know, we kind of say, oh, they all they are

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interested in is a, looking at a screen.

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These people weren't, these young people were not looking at the screen.

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They were looking up and out of, uh, at their futures.

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And again, as I said, kudos to you for.

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Putting together the elements, uh, to help build the strengths for

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them, uh, to do that, to pursue it.

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Well, thank

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you.

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Kudos to our team cuz really it takes.

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A village, right?

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It takes, uh, it's not just one person.

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Yes, it was my crazy, um, vision and idea, but it really does take a village,

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so I can't take, uh, full credit for that.

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But, and thank you for, for supporting us and being there as a volunteer.

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You know, we love our volunteers, our, our volunteers, you know,

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make such a difference in.

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Our organization.

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And so I wanna thank you, Isabel, for investing your time and supporting

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us as well, because that, that's what makes an organization thrive as well.

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So, well, I have a vested interest because I have, uh, a total of nine

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grandchildren and to, to think about how.

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What you do, the programs, the experience that you create would have supported them.

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They're, they're all now, you know, rising up in their ages, but just to

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think of all the children in the world.

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Um, and, and I, I think what I seek too is that your.

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Your model could work for any community, whether it's, um, moms that are in

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relationships that are not supportive or relationships that are not, et cetera,

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but, but staying on Dare to Be Youth and, and your journey because what, what

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I'm hoping to do with this conversation and, and the Lift As You Climb podcast is

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to give our listeners, um, Some sparks, you know, and maybe light a little

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fire for them and how they could ac actualize, uh, an idea that like you did.

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So in the, and, and I, you know, I, I think I indicated that you've

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been doing this for about a decade, but, but that was a process of

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building, if I understand you, Hmm.

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Yeah, it started small.

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You know, I was always taught build the foundation strong, right?

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Think big, dream big, start small.

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So many people try to do big mm-hmm.

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right off the bat and they don't succeed.

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And so it's that building that foundation and taking it one step

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at a time, and not, not going fast, but just allowing the process.

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, um, to happen.

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So that, I mean, it was, that's how we did it.

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And um, and there were times where we were just like flat, like when

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I say flat, there was no growth.

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There was no, like, it was just flat.

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It was, it was consistent, but just, um, nothing more.

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Right?

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And then I got that next step or that next kind of nudge, like, you need to do this.

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And, and that's where listening to your gut, . So often people ignore that and

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they miss out on so many opportunities that were already burning, that

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burning desire, like inside of them.

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Mm-hmm.

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. And, you know, I never wanted to be that person.

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You know, when I'm on my deathbed like saying, why didn't I do that?

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Why?

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You know, my mom has Lewy Body Dementia and we recently had, you know, a tough

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conversation cuz she can't travel anymore.

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And, and, and she was, it was beautiful, but it was hard to

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hear because she said something.

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about I'm resenting the fact that you're living your life to

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the fullest, and I never did.

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In some areas where I wish I did,

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regrets are a bitch.

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They really are.

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And, and I am, I, I said this, I'm in a, a new decade, you know, 52,

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I'm in like my thirties was divorced.

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My forties was growth and pain and, and, and transformation.

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And now my, and, and being a parent, um, a single parent.

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My son was five when his dad and I, um, divorced and, and now I'm in my fifties

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and my son's 17 going to be 18 next month.

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And it's like my time to live for me.

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And do what I need, not to be selfish, but to honor my needs as well, where

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we're always like, sometimes we have to sacrifice in different stages in our life.

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Last five months, I cared for my mom.

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, um, that was unexpected until we were able to get her into a home.

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Um, cause she needed, um, she needs long-term care and, and, and it

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was like, now I need to live for me and, and to do what brings me joy.

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And the greatest example, you know, I, I heard a quote not that long ago

Shannon: 00:21:13

and I have to see if I can find it.

Shannon: 00:21:16

Um, but it, it's how we live.

Shannon: 00:21:18

Like it's, it's the example that we live that people.

Shannon: 00:21:22

and I think that's so, so important.

Shannon: 00:21:24

It's not, it's not what's, it's not what's taught, it's what's caught.

Shannon: 00:21:28

Right.

Shannon: 00:21:29

And the world responds to your example, not your opinion.

Shannon: 00:21:33

They, they respond to your example.

Shannon: 00:21:35

And Kale Black shared that recently.

Shannon: 00:21:37

I thought that's so true.

Shannon: 00:21:38

It's not your opinion, it's your example.

Shannon: 00:21:39

It's how you live.

Shannon: 00:21:40

Like what are your actions?

Shannon: 00:21:41

Like what are you doing?

Shannon: 00:21:43

It's not like talk is.

Shannon: 00:21:45

, right?

Shannon: 00:21:45

And so I wanna, I want to be a great example and embody what we wanna see in

Shannon: 00:21:51

the world, whether it's kindness, empathy, equality, whatever it might be, self-love.

Shannon: 00:21:57

So,

Shannon: 00:21:58

, Isabel: uh, thank you for the self-love

Shannon: 00:22:02

important element to this, that if you don't love yourself, you don't trust

Shannon: 00:22:07

yourself or support yourself to, to grow in the ways that are necessary

Shannon: 00:22:12

to be able to Lift other people.

Shannon: 00:22:13

Mm-hmm.

Shannon: 00:22:14

, and, and that's a.

Shannon: 00:22:15

You know, that's something that really connects me with you is because strongly,

Shannon: 00:22:20

from the first time I met you, I saw that you recognized that as you got

Shannon: 00:22:24

better and better yourself, you were able to reach back and give others

Shannon: 00:22:29

a hand up, uh, and other strength.

Shannon: 00:22:32

Um, you, you touched on something.

Shannon: 00:22:36

I thought was really, um, a cool thing in that it's that this whole journey

Shannon: 00:22:40

through our, our lives and each thing that we do, whether later we look

Shannon: 00:22:47

back and go, ah, you know, that wasn't a lot of fun, but it was, it's all

Shannon: 00:22:51

part of this building who we are.

Shannon: 00:22:53

Right?

Shannon: 00:22:54

And that.

Shannon: 00:22:56

I feel so passionate right now about encouraging people to think about living

Shannon: 00:23:04

their legacy while they are alive to influence and experience it and, you know,

Shannon: 00:23:12

increase the impact as opposed to, you know, Hoping that you have some money in

Shannon: 00:23:17

the bank when you die, and that somebody might say something nice about you.

Shannon: 00:23:23

Mm-hmm.

Shannon: 00:23:23

, I, I think, you know, for me that would be a great regret to not have been in

Shannon: 00:23:29

the driver's seat of doing what I feel can make a difference for somebody else,

Shannon: 00:23:37

even though, gosh darn it, I make such a, you know, a klutz of myself sometimes.

Shannon: 00:23:43

Uh, You know, may, you know, it's not as perfect as I would like it to be,

Shannon: 00:23:50

but I would rather look a little wrong, silly, whatever, than not have done it.

Shannon: 00:23:59

And that is so cool.

Shannon: 00:24:02

Like you said, you, you took time to build it, but you, and you had

Shannon: 00:24:06

days where it was tough slogging.

Shannon: 00:24:09

You must have questioned some things, but you kept going and da da.

Shannon: 00:24:15

Here you are.

Shannon: 00:24:15

And it

Shannon: 00:24:16

got messy.

Shannon: 00:24:17

. Isabel: Yeah.

Shannon: 00:24:18

Well, messy.

Shannon: 00:24:20

So give, can you share for the list of some examples of look

Shannon: 00:24:24

back, you know, rear view mirror.

Shannon: 00:24:27

One or two things, you know, you did right.

Shannon: 00:24:30

And one or two things you know, you didn't do right.

Shannon: 00:24:33

In this process of building the movement and building the charity

Shannon: 00:24:38

and building myself, right?

Shannon: 00:24:40

Oh, yes.

Shannon: 00:24:42

Because building a movement and building a charity actually came secondary.

Shannon: 00:24:46

Like it was secondary.

Shannon: 00:24:47

And John Maxwell has been a mentor of mine for many, many.

Shannon: 00:24:51

and he says, always says, you know, um, hurting people, hurt, people healed.

Shannon: 00:24:57

And I added the healed people.

Shannon: 00:24:59

Elevate and celebrate people.

Shannon: 00:25:00

Right?

Shannon: 00:25:00

So it, it was, you know, you can't teach what you don't know and you

Shannon: 00:25:04

can't leave where you don't go.

Shannon: 00:25:05

And so for me it was immersing in, in mentors and you know, I

Shannon: 00:25:11

always say, you know, we need a, a coach, a mentor, and a therapist.

Shannon: 00:25:14

You know, some all at the same time, some in different stages.

Shannon: 00:25:18

Um, so I think for me, learning as I grew myself, that there was one area in my life

Shannon: 00:25:26

where humility overrode, um, or sorry, where pride overrode humility and someone

Shannon: 00:25:33

once shared, um, with one of my best.

Shannon: 00:25:37

, her pride is overriding her, her humility.

Shannon: 00:25:39

And, and, and that was related.

Shannon: 00:25:41

Like my girlfriend who loves and adores me, um, cares about me,

Shannon: 00:25:47

had the courage to tell me that.

Shannon: 00:25:50

And she agreed.

Shannon: 00:25:51

And, and I, to this day, that was probably about nine years ago, I

Shannon: 00:25:56

remember where we were sitting.

Shannon: 00:25:58

I remember how it felt.

Shannon: 00:25:59

And the one thing I did was I didn't react, but I responded

Shannon: 00:26:03

and I said, I wanna fix.

Shannon: 00:26:05

and she says, well, there you go.

Shannon: 00:26:06

That's where the humility has come in, right?

Shannon: 00:26:09

And so I could have reacted and said, what?

Shannon: 00:26:12

That's not true.

Shannon: 00:26:13

You know, like I could have had like a total com apart.

Shannon: 00:26:16

And I was, so when the student is ready, the teacher will appear, right?

Shannon: 00:26:20

And so I was ready.

Shannon: 00:26:21

I knew that I needed to fix and heal and, and, and work on myself.

Shannon: 00:26:27

And so that was.

Shannon: 00:26:28

, I thought I had transformed.

Shannon: 00:26:29

That was the beginning of my transformation, was sometimes we

Shannon: 00:26:33

have to hear the things we don't wanna hear, but that are gonna

Shannon: 00:26:36

make a difference in our life.

Shannon: 00:26:37

And so for me, it became a lifelong learner.

Shannon: 00:26:40

I, I, I got the help that I needed.

Shannon: 00:26:42

I surrounded myself with positive, uplifting people.

Shannon: 00:26:46

You know, we become like the people we surround ourselves with.

Shannon: 00:26:49

So who we hang out with will make or break us.

Shannon: 00:26:53

Who we surround ourselves with will grow us or.

Shannon: 00:26:57

or shrink us.

Shannon: 00:26:58

And, um, you know, I, yeah, I can't say enough.

Shannon: 00:27:02

I, I thank that person to this day for, for sharing.

Shannon: 00:27:06

And, and the ironic thing is that person lives their life

Shannon: 00:27:12

with pride as the leading.

Shannon: 00:27:13

So it's, it's interesting how they, when you point the finger, there's three

Shannon: 00:27:17

point fingers pointing back at you.

Shannon: 00:27:19

So what they didn't realize is that's how they were living.

Shannon: 00:27:23

. But what they did don't, still don't realize, is that they gave me the

Shannon: 00:27:26

greatest gift because I was willing to hear that and take the steps necessary to

Isabel: 00:27:32

change.

Isabel: 00:27:34

I could never have forecast that our conversation would take this turn.

Isabel: 00:27:40

But how perfect is this for part of the conversation?

Isabel: 00:27:46

Because it's, it's recognizing that having.

Isabel: 00:27:51

Having that friend at the moment, whatever her motives were, uh, be the

Isabel: 00:27:57

tough love or the wake up call for you and the fact that you were willing,

Isabel: 00:28:03

you were willing to face it head on.

Isabel: 00:28:06

And you know, it's, there are days we're looking at ourselves

Isabel: 00:28:10

in the mirror is hard, right?

Isabel: 00:28:13

We don't like what we see behind those eyes, that soul, but we have a choice.

Isabel: 00:28:19

We have a choice.

Isabel: 00:28:20

We have a choice.

Isabel: 00:28:21

Um, uh, so wowsers, well, I'm so glad that you did.

Isabel: 00:28:28

I'm so glad you, you sucked it up buttercup.

Isabel: 00:28:31

Yeah.

Isabel: 00:28:32

And it was necessary.

Isabel: 00:28:34

Okay.

Isabel: 00:28:34

And

Shannon: 00:28:34

you know, we, can I just share one other thing?

Shannon: 00:28:36

I'm so sorry.

Shannon: 00:28:37

Please.

Shannon: 00:28:38

We are where we are.

Shannon: 00:28:39

Somebody said this to me many years ago.

Shannon: 00:28:41

A great mentor.

Shannon: 00:28:41

We are where we are today.

Shannon: 00:28:43

So I, I'm gonna say I, I am where I am.

Shannon: 00:28:47

January 13th, 2023 because of the choices I've made or the what I've

Shannon: 00:28:53

allowed others to make for me.

Shannon: 00:28:55

Yes, so.

Shannon: 00:28:57

Some people don't like that.

Shannon: 00:28:58

They don't want to admit that they are where they are based on the

Shannon: 00:29:01

choices they've made or they've allowed others to make for them.

Shannon: 00:29:04

But that is the reality.

Shannon: 00:29:05

And so every single day I say to myself, I am where I am today based

Shannon: 00:29:11

on the choices I've made or that I've allowed others to make for me.

Shannon: 00:29:14

What am I gonna choose today?

Shannon: 00:29:16

Am I gonna choose to for forward and not, you know, allow the naysayers or not allow

Shannon: 00:29:23

that negative, you know, thing sitting on my shoulder saying you can't do that.

Shannon: 00:29:27

Um, or am I going forward?

Shannon: 00:29:29

And so I think that's important thing to share too, that we have personal

Shannon: 00:29:33

responsibility of what happened to us.

Shannon: 00:29:37

Everybody has terrible things that they've gone through, but

Shannon: 00:29:40

we have a choice to respond to.

Shannon: 00:29:43

and how that's going to shift or, or grow us internally is up to us.

Shannon: 00:29:48

It's not up to somebody else.

Isabel: 00:29:50

Absolutely.

Isabel: 00:29:51

The truth.

Isabel: 00:29:52

Um, and I, um, I know that there have been periods in my life where I, I

Isabel: 00:29:58

was reveling in the pity party, and the blame and the indignation until

Isabel: 00:30:04

finally I got, oh, yuck, this isn.

Isabel: 00:30:09

Changing anything, and it's certainly not making it any better.

Isabel: 00:30:13

And so, yeah, getting out of that, climbing out of that hole in the

Isabel: 00:30:17

sidewalk as they say and do that.

Isabel: 00:30:21

So that's great to be and to be.

Isabel: 00:30:24

Surrounding yourself with the people that will help you grow.

Isabel: 00:30:28

Uh, reaching up like you and I both have had experience with, uh, peer advisory

Isabel: 00:30:33

boards for, for women business owners, and knowing the benefit of, of being

Isabel: 00:30:39

in a well curated group and being open, really open to the wisdom that is shared.

Isabel: 00:30:48

Um, sometimes it's just being open to listening to other people.

Isabel: 00:30:53

Who've made mistakes or either making them right now and, and saying,

Isabel: 00:30:59

okay, how, what do I learn from that?

Isabel: 00:31:02

How do I take away?

Isabel: 00:31:03

So that, that's, that's so awesome.

Isabel: 00:31:06

Thank you Shannon.

Isabel: 00:31:08

Um, and thank you for reminding me, uh, personally, I'm thinking

Isabel: 00:31:13

about this right now about, yeah.

Isabel: 00:31:15

Coaches and mentors, uh, advisors that, you know, having that our own

Isabel: 00:31:21

curated personal board of advisors is, is a really important aspect.

Isabel: 00:31:27

No matter how old you are, no matter how successful you are, uh, no matter

Isabel: 00:31:32

whether you've decided, uh, you know, I'm gonna take it easy for a little

Isabel: 00:31:36

while, it's in those quieter moments that I, that's when I've found I've really.

Shannon: 00:31:41

Absolutely.

Shannon: 00:31:42

Where we are still and we just pause and we reflect.

Shannon: 00:31:45

Yeah.

Isabel: 00:31:47

That's so important.

Isabel: 00:31:48

Is there something that comes to mind for you in, in sort of a best tip for

Isabel: 00:31:54

our listeners around when you wanna get, give your idea, uh, life, what not to do.

Isabel: 00:32:04

when you

Shannon: 00:32:04

wanna give your idea of life.

Shannon: 00:32:06

So like share, share your story.

Isabel: 00:32:08

Yeah.

Isabel: 00:32:09

I mean, they have an idea of, um, a passion project that they would

Isabel: 00:32:15

like to bring to, to fruition.

Isabel: 00:32:19

Mm-hmm.

Isabel: 00:32:19

. Um, are there?

Isabel: 00:32:21

Yeah.

Shannon: 00:32:22

Yeah.

Shannon: 00:32:22

Don't rush the Climb.

Shannon: 00:32:24

Like, think big.

Shannon: 00:32:26

Dream big.

Shannon: 00:32:27

Start small.

Shannon: 00:32:28

Um, so often we.

Shannon: 00:32:30

Fast is best and going, you know, go bigger, go home.

Shannon: 00:32:34

You know that saying, I don't believe that.

Shannon: 00:32:36

And, and I've, I've seen it in, in the, as an entrepreneur,

Shannon: 00:32:40

people going up real fast.

Shannon: 00:32:41

They come down real fast.

Shannon: 00:32:42

So I would say don't rush the Climb.

Shannon: 00:32:45

Mm-hmm.

Shannon: 00:32:45

, um, number one.

Shannon: 00:32:46

But, but surround yourself with people who have the skills that you don't have.

Shannon: 00:32:52

. Yeah, right.

Shannon: 00:32:52

Like, I, I think of my accountant who helped me, um,

Shannon: 00:32:56

get my, my charitable status.

Shannon: 00:32:57

It took us two years to go through that process.

Shannon: 00:33:01

I had no idea how that process was gonna happen, but I found somebody who did.

Shannon: 00:33:07

And so it's, it's seeking out the people who have the skills, who you respect.

Shannon: 00:33:13

Who are, are walking their talk, who are living their life.

Shannon: 00:33:17

Um, the example that they're, they're living is, is one that

Shannon: 00:33:20

you respect and that you admire and that you wanna learn from.

Shannon: 00:33:24

Mm-hmm.

Shannon: 00:33:24

You know, one person that I can, I can think of off the bat, who I reached

Shannon: 00:33:27

out to Lisa, president of FedEx Canada, and just, she emulates light,

Shannon: 00:33:33

but she's just, she's had the most.

Shannon: 00:33:36

Her, her life has, has been turbulent.

Shannon: 00:33:39

She's had great loss in her life, and but she, what she's doing because of that loss

Shannon: 00:33:45

is changing the lives of so many people.

Shannon: 00:33:47

And I reached out to her to, to sit at her at, at the table and have coffee and,

Shannon: 00:33:52

and learn and take her words of wisdom.

Shannon: 00:33:54

And she was open to that and, and met with me a couple times.

Shannon: 00:33:58

And so we have to not be afraid to.

Shannon: 00:34:01

, would you be open to having a coffee?

Shannon: 00:34:05

Um, mentoring someone is a lot of work.

Shannon: 00:34:07

So we, we shouldn't ask somebody, will you be my mentor?

Shannon: 00:34:10

Because that is like, that, that's almost like a full-time, you know, job.

Shannon: 00:34:14

But they're, they're a mentor in essence, just by having coffee with you.

Shannon: 00:34:18

But if you know somebody who you respect highly respect, don't be afraid.

Shannon: 00:34:24

You know, there is one, one example where my ask wasn't positive.

Shannon: 00:34:29

And I'll never forget, I was at a galli.

Shannon: 00:34:31

I had achieved, uh, a huge, you know, accomplishment in, in my, um,

Shannon: 00:34:36

business as, as an entrepreneur.

Shannon: 00:34:39

And I remember walking up to somebody who has, who achieved higher success in me.

Shannon: 00:34:43

And I just had so much admiration.

Shannon: 00:34:45

You know, we sometimes put people on a pedestal when we shouldn't, and I

Shannon: 00:34:49

asked her, and it took courage to say, can I have my photo with you?

Shannon: 00:34:53

And this was oh, 20 some odd years ago, and I'll never forget,

Shannon: 00:34:57

I wrote it in my book too, and she said, no, I don't have time.

Shannon: 00:35:00

And walked away and I'll, I'll never forget it.

Shannon: 00:35:04

It crushed me.

Shannon: 00:35:05

I was humiliated.

Shannon: 00:35:06

I wanted to just dig a hole and bury myself.

Shannon: 00:35:09

and it ruined my, I I allowed it, not it, I allowed it to ruin my night and

Shannon: 00:35:14

I was just, I was, and I was insecure.

Shannon: 00:35:15

I was still obviously insecure cuz now if that happened, I'm like, wow,

Shannon: 00:35:19

that's, that's a hurting person.

Shannon: 00:35:20

Like that is somebody who's really not in a good place.

Shannon: 00:35:23

But I didn't know that back then.

Shannon: 00:35:25

And I remember lying in bed going, why did this happen?

Shannon: 00:35:28

And again, faith is a big part of, of my, my life and, and I, I, I pray all the

Shannon: 00:35:34

time and, and it was like God just said.

Shannon: 00:35:37

, I just showed you what never to do to.

Shannon: 00:35:39

Greatest lesson I ever, ever.

Shannon: 00:35:41

And so there were times when I was at events and people would

Shannon: 00:35:43

say, can I have my photo with you?

Shannon: 00:35:44

Can absolutely.

Shannon: 00:35:46

We gotta do it quick.

Shannon: 00:35:46

Cause I've gotta get, you know, I'm teaching a a a A A workshop or a seminar.

Shannon: 00:35:51

Let's do it quick.

Shannon: 00:35:52

And I never, so I learned through that painful experience of.

Shannon: 00:35:57

What never did you?

Shannon: 00:35:58

And so sometimes we think, oh, I'm a victim, or Why did that happen?

Shannon: 00:36:01

And if we dig deep and we allow ourselves to just pause and reflect and really

Shannon: 00:36:06

ask for the answer, the answer was, I just showed you what never to do.

Shannon: 00:36:11

And it was a great, one of my greatest.

Shannon: 00:36:13

lesson that came with pain.

Shannon: 00:36:16

I

Isabel: 00:36:16

love that, that awareness.

Isabel: 00:36:18

And you mentioned it, it's in your book.

Isabel: 00:36:21

And I, I wanna bring that up and I'll be putting in the show notes, uh,

Isabel: 00:36:24

the name of your book, and also how they can find it and purchase it,

Isabel: 00:36:29

because it's a, it's a, a fabulous.

Isabel: 00:36:33

Foundational piece to where you are today.

Isabel: 00:36:36

And so I'd love our readers to, or our listeners to, to get that.

Isabel: 00:36:40

And of course we'll put everything in the show notes on how they can find Dare

Isabel: 00:36:46

to be youth and to connect with you and, and if they're, Chosen to, if they moved

Isabel: 00:36:53

to the ways that they could possibly support and help increase the impact

Isabel: 00:36:59

of this movement, um, you know, whether that's to make a donation or maybe to

Isabel: 00:37:04

volunteer or, um, I think we were having a little conversation about your ideas on

Isabel: 00:37:10

sponsorship, um, that helps them as well.

Isabel: 00:37:13

So again, lifting and climbing.

Isabel: 00:37:16

Could you talk a little bit about your thoughts on.

Shannon: 00:37:19

Oh, gosh.

Shannon: 00:37:20

Yeah.

Shannon: 00:37:20

I have, I have a, a lot of lot to say about that.

Shannon: 00:37:23

You know, I'm a firm believer that when we operate out of a out, a spirit of

Shannon: 00:37:28

abundance and generosity, that is what Lift As, You, Climb, you know, supporting

Shannon: 00:37:34

and celebrating others as they win.

Shannon: 00:37:36

When you don't, you know how many people will actually be happy for

Shannon: 00:37:40

someone when they're not winning.

Shannon: 00:37:42

and I, you know, that was right.

Shannon: 00:37:44

It's hard sometimes, right?

Shannon: 00:37:46

That jealousy and envy, you know, so it's, it's is living and, and, and acting out

Shannon: 00:37:52

of a spirit of generosity and abundance, but really, truly supporting one another

Shannon: 00:37:58

and, and elevating them and, and.

Shannon: 00:38:02

Just as you like, you do what you do, like you do this to,

Shannon: 00:38:06

to support and elevate others.

Shannon: 00:38:07

But you know, in the end what it's doing as well is it's lifting you up.

Shannon: 00:38:11

And when we help enough people get what they want, you will

Shannon: 00:38:14

get what you want as well.

Shannon: 00:38:16

And I'm a firm believer in that it's not about me, it's not about, um, self-focus,

Shannon: 00:38:21

it's about being others focused.

Shannon: 00:38:24

So I would say that is what lifting as you Climb looks.

Isabel: 00:38:29

You're absolutely spot on.

Isabel: 00:38:32

For me, the benefit in doing this program and interviewing people like yourself is,

Isabel: 00:38:39

Hey, I, I, I wanna put a spotlight on.

Isabel: 00:38:42

I wanna spread the message of the good work that you're doing,

Isabel: 00:38:46

and hopefully add, you know, to increase your influence and impact.

Isabel: 00:38:52

At the same time, oh my gosh, I am sitting at the feet of the teachers.

Isabel: 00:38:56

I am learning what I want to do.

Isabel: 00:39:00

I'm learning about how to increase my own impact, and I'm so grateful

Isabel: 00:39:07

to each of you that have gone before and who are generously sharing your

Isabel: 00:39:12

time now and sharing your wisdom with everybody who's listening

Isabel: 00:39:17

because that, I mean, that's what we.

Isabel: 00:39:19

Right?

Isabel: 00:39:20

And we, it's like the exponential growth when we, when we share wisdom

Isabel: 00:39:25

with each other, and you know, it doesn't mean that it has to be

Isabel: 00:39:30

a one-to-one reciprocity, right?

Isabel: 00:39:33

It's not that you do this for me and I'll do that for you.

Isabel: 00:39:36

It's that we are just creating abundance and we're all able

Isabel: 00:39:40

to draw from, from that.

Isabel: 00:39:43

I know that you have a really important meeting coming up shortly, and I,

Isabel: 00:39:47

and I wanna honor and support that and, and send you the most positive

Isabel: 00:39:51

vibes for success with that because I was thinking, you know, having a

Isabel: 00:39:56

charity, uh, creating a movement.

Isabel: 00:40:00

. It also has to be like running a business because if you're not successful, if

Isabel: 00:40:04

you don't have sustainability, if you don't have income to support the programs

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and to grow and do the reach, then.

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There's a lot of people getting let down.

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Right.

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And so I know that you, you have an important meeting around funding

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and sponsorship and support, but that, that's the other thing I,

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that I, I wanted to suggest to the listeners that building their own.

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Or supporting your organization.

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They can also start by creating small events and fundraisers.

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Mm-hmm.

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and contribute a portion or all of the proceeds to groups like

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yours that are making such a positive difference in the world.

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and the ripples just keep getting bigger.

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Right.

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And going out there.

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Yeah.

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And, and maybe, maybe someone else will be inspired in another community or another

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country to do to replicate your success.

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Mm-hmm.

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And um, and I hope for that as well.

Isabel: 00:41:07

Thank.

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Any parting thoughts you'd like to share with us, Shannon?

Isabel: 00:41:12

Yeah,

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I just wanna share, you know, when we started in 2020 with our

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first uh, program, it was all virtual.

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And so I know that you have an audience in the United States.

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Mm-hmm.

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. And the beautiful thing about our event, our annual event that we hold in

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November, our Youth Inspired Community Day, is that it is a hybrid event.

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So students 14 to 24 can register no matter where they are in the world.

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And so I wanna.

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Anyone who listens to this, who knows a grade nine, you know, 14 to

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24, who they feel would benefit from plugging in to something positive.

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You know, we have a three time Olympian who is our group mentor, uh, to our

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community youth council, and she's one of our keynote speakers and we

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have R bbc, um, as a huge sponsor.

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We have so many community sponsors that enable us to be able to offer

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these programs at no cost to.

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. So it is absolutely free no matter where you are, what socioeconomic background

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you come from, like it, it doesn't matter.

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And so that's why we count on our supporters to help us.

Shannon: 00:42:18

Um, but I just wanna open the invitation to anyone who hears this that say, I wish

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my my child or my young adult, um, niece, um, would, would, could be part of this.

Shannon: 00:42:29

Well, they.

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Go to our website and, um, put in, you know, sign up for our E-news and

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you'll be, you know, given information.

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But our youth Inspire community will be again in November and it will be hybrid.

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And so anyone can join as long as you're in that 14 four age group.

Shannon: 00:42:45

I'm so

Isabel: 00:42:46

glad that came out even if we were almost at the end of the show.

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Cause to all that, are listening to this show and hopefully soon watching it if you

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want to on YouTube, we're working on that.

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. If you're listening, then that means that there are people in your life,

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in your circle of inferior influence, um, that this type of support

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could really make a difference.

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You know, whether you're a grandparent or a parent, or you are a business

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owner and your staff have children, tell them about Dare to Be Youth.

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Get them to sign up, follow the programs, get them to participate.

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I mean, they're just absolutely generosity, flowing from you.

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Shannon, thank you.

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Cuz you're offering to share the good work that you're doing and

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the positive influence you're doing with anybody anywhere in the world.

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And, um, That never stops happening, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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, Shannon: It's an honor.

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It, I would love to have the more we want this to be a global thing and,

Isabel: 00:43:54

um, yeah, it's, this has just been such a gift to me and I thank you.

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Creating this space to share, um, people's stories.

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Um, So many of the things that we talked about today weren't even on our list . And

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that's the beautiful thing about organic conversations, you know, the real raw,

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authentic, vulnerable conversations.

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Um, and I'm just grateful for this opportunity, Isabel.

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So I wanna thank you for, for reaching out and encouraging me to do this with you.

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Thank

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you.

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Thank you so much.

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And uh, please.

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We need to have a sequel,

Shannon: 00:44:28

right?

Shannon: 00:44:28

We will.

Shannon: 00:44:29

Yes.

Shannon: 00:44:30

Absolutely.

Isabel: 00:44:31

All right.

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Have a great day.

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Best of success with your meeting in a little bit.

Isabel: 00:44:35

Thank, and I look forward to talking to you again soon.

Isabel: 00:44:38

Yes, sounds good.

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Alright!

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Bye for now.