Beyond the Breath: Free Speech - What It Is and What It Isn't

This podcast episode provides a comprehensive exploration of the First Amendment, with a particular focus on the intricate landscape of free speech. The host, Heather Hester, articulates the significance of this constitutional provision by reciting its text, which guarantees citizens the right to express their thoughts without governmental interference. However, the discussion quickly evolves into a nuanced examination of the complexities surrounding free speech, particularly the boundaries that exist between protected and unprotected speech. Heather emphasizes that while individuals have the right to express themselves, they are not shielded from the consequences of their words, especially in contexts governed by societal norms and workplace regulations.
As the episode progresses, Heather details specific categories of speech that are not afforded protection under the First Amendment, such as incitement to violence and obscenity, referencing landmark Supreme Court cases to illustrate the evolving interpretation of these concepts. Heather's insights into contemporary issues, including cancel culture, social media moderation, and anti-protest legislation, provide a current context to the discussion, prompting listeners to reflect on their own roles within these debates. The speaker advocates for a thoughtful and responsible approach to speech, urging individuals to harness their voices for positive change and to engage in constructive dialogues.
Ultimately, the episode serves as a clarion call to action, encouraging listeners to not only exercise their right to free speech but to do so with an awareness of the ethical implications that accompany this freedom. It underscores the importance of using one's voice to foster understanding and compassion, thus reinforcing the idea that speech is not merely a right but a vital tool for societal progress.
Takeaways:
- The First Amendment encompasses four fundamental freedoms: religion, speech, press, and assembly.
- While freedom of speech is protected, it does not shield individuals from accountability for their words.
- Certain categories of speech, such as incitement to violence and true threats, are not protected under the First Amendment.
- The distinction between being canceled and being censored is crucial to understanding free speech rights.
- Private companies can set their own standards for speech, which is separate from government regulation.
- Understanding the nuances of free speech enables us to be more effective advocates for justice and connection.
Links for further reading and clarification:
Cornell Legal Info: Freedom of Speech
Podcast rec: What the Constitution Means to Me
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01:54 - Reintroducing the Podcast
05:40 - Understanding the Limits of Free Speech
08:00 - Understanding Free Speech and Its Limits
15:00 - Recent Challenges to Free Speech
20:18 - Exploring Cancel Culture and Free Speech
23:10 - The Importance of Speaking with Intention
Hi friends.
Speaker AWelcome back to beyond the Breath.
Speaker AI'm Heather Hester and I am so grateful you're here.
Speaker AI have a quick announcement before we get into today's episode.
Speaker AI am so excited to share that in the next few weeks I will be reintroducing this podcast under a new name, More human, More kind.
Speaker AA lot has gone into this decision which I will share with you over time, but the most important thing for you to know right now is that you will remain connected to the entire backlog of Just Breathe parenting your LGBTQ teen episodes.
Speaker AWhich means you will not need to go searching for this podcast as long as you are subscribed to or follow the show.
Speaker ASo your homework, or perhaps even right now, hit pause and then hit that subscribe or follow button so you don't miss any episodes.
Speaker AToday we're diving into part two of our four part series on the First Amendment.
Speaker AAnd this episode is all about the freedom of speech, what it protects, what it doesn't, and how we can think about our voices as powerful tools for compassion and connection.
Speaker AAs always, this space is rooted in gentleness, curiosity and truth.
Speaker ASo let's get into it.
Speaker ASo I first want to start right at the source.
Speaker AWhat does the First Amendment say?
Speaker AAnd I brought this up last week in our episode one when we were talking about a free press.
Speaker ABut I want to say it again.
Speaker AAgain, the First Amendment says, quote, congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Speaker AThis First Amendment is really four powerful freedoms or statements.
Speaker AOne freedom of religion and the separation of church and state 2 freedom of speech 3 free press and 4 the right and freedom to peacefully protest the government.
Speaker ASo again, last week we talked about the importance of a free press.
Speaker AToday we are looking specifically at free speech.
Speaker ACongress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker AOne short line.
Speaker ABut that one short line holds so much power in practice.
Speaker AThis means that the government at any level can't punish you or limit your right to express yourself, whether that's through speaking, writing, protesting, or even symbolic acts like wearing an armband or burning a flag.
Speaker ABut, and this is so, so, so important, it doesn't mean you can say anything without consequences.
Speaker AFreedom of speech does not mean freedom from accountability, especially from employers, private companies, or your community.
Speaker AAnd it doesn't give protection for all types of speech.
Speaker AThere are limits.
Speaker AAnd we're going to talk about this right now.
Speaker ASo what's not protected?
Speaker ALet's talk about this first.
Speaker AFirst, there are categories of speech that the courts have ruled are not protected by by the First Amendment.
Speaker AThese include first and foremost, and we talked about this one a little bit last week, incitement to violence, like, for instance, calling for harm or illegal action, especially in a way that's likely to happen.
Speaker AIf you're curious to understand more, this was really clarified in the 1969 case Brandenburg vs Ohio.
Speaker AIt has become ever more nuanced in recent years, and certain leaders have used dog whistles or terms that seem innocuous but stand for something that only a certain group of people understand and that's used to activate them in a negative way or to incite violence.
Speaker AAnother category of speech that is not protected by the First Amendment are actual true threats.
Speaker ASpeech that seriously threatens another person's safety.
Speaker AThat one simple and to the point.
Speaker AThe third is obscenity, and this one's tricky.
Speaker AIt's been defined specifically through a case called Miller vs.
Speaker ACalifornia.
Speaker AAnd I think this is the most direct one and easiest one to perhaps understand.
Speaker AMiller vs.
Speaker ACalifornia was initiated in response to Marvin Miller's actions in 1971 when he conducted a mass mailing campaign advertising adult materials.
Speaker ASo the Supreme Court ruled that obscene materials are not protected by the First Amendment.
Speaker AAnd then the court established a three pronged standard to determine obscenity.
Speaker AEssentially, what this decision does is it grants the states greater authority to regulate obscene material, allowing them to base judgments on local community standards rather than a single national standard.
Speaker AThe next category that is not protected by the First Amendment is defamation, like slander or libel.
Speaker AThese can all harm a person's reputation through false statements, and then finally, perjury, blackmail, or fraud.
Speaker ASpeech that is used to commit a crime.
Speaker ASo there are real limits to free speech, especially when harm or danger or falsehoods are involved.
Speaker ASo what is protected then?
Speaker AWell, this is really, really hard because this gets into, what if it's really ugly speech?
Speaker AWhat if it's really hurtful speech?
Speaker ASpeech that is offensive, controversial, or even hateful is usually protected as long as it doesn't cross into violence or threats.
Speaker ASo, yes, obviously there is a fine nuanced line there, but that's really.
Speaker AThis is really important to understand because this includes political speech, protest, satire, unpopular opinions, symbolic expression, like, for instance, kneeling during the national anthem or wearing protest clothing.
Speaker AEven hate speech, which is incredibly painful to witness or experience, is generally allowed unless it meets the criteria for violence or threat.
Speaker ANow, just because it's allowed doesn't mean we condone it.
Speaker AThe First Amendment isn't about protecting comfortable speech.
Speaker AIt's about preventing the government from deciding who gets to speak.
Speaker ASo why does this all matter, especially for those of us who care about justice and kindness and connection?
Speaker AIt matters because knowing how speech is protected helps us to be better advocates and better listeners and better responders.
Speaker AWhen we know what's allowed and we know what's harmful, that knowledge gives us a lot of clarity and power.
Speaker AWe can use our voices to uplift, to defend, to inspire.
Speaker AWhile understanding the line between free speech and harmful speech.
Speaker AWe can choose to respond instead of react.
Speaker AAnd we can teach others, especially our kids, that speech is both a right and a responsibility.
Speaker ASo let's talk about how this has shown up in the world over the past decade or so.
Speaker AI'm sure right now, or even as I've been speaking, you've been thinking about maybe one, two, three things that you've either read in the news or have happened to you personally or that you've just heard that have made you angry or sad or upset.
Speaker ASo let's just talk about a couple of these and talk about why they are good or bad, why they are allowed or not allowed, why they would be considered free speech or not free speech.
Speaker AThe first is when NFL player Colin Kaepernick took a knee during the national anthem to protest racial injustice.
Speaker ARemember that?
Speaker AIt sparked absolute insanity.
Speaker ABut from a constitutional perspective, it was protected symbolic speech.
Speaker AThe government didn't and couldn't stop him.
Speaker ABut he did get private backlash.
Speaker AThere were team decisions that were not good, and those are very, very separate from First Amendment protections.
Speaker AWhat about when it comes to social media?
Speaker AAnother common misconception when people are banned from social media platforms is that they often cry out free speech.
Speaker AThey're upset about their free speech being infringed, but what they're not thinking about and what they're not realizing is that those are private companies.
Speaker AThey set their own policies.
Speaker AThe First Amendment applies to government censorship, not private moderation.
Speaker AThis is why it was a big deal when Facebook recently changed its moderation standards.
Speaker AEven though it may feel like it, Facebook and X are not government platforms.
Speaker ASo they can create whatever rules they wish and we can choose how we respond.
Speaker ASo while the First Amendment protects free speech from government interference, there are a few more very recent events that have raised concerns about potential overreach and the really delicate balance between security and civil liberties.
Speaker ASo let's look at just a few Examples here.
Speaker AThe first, and I brought this one up last week because it has to do with press access.
Speaker ABut I think it is worth noting again because this has continued to be something worth paying attention to.
Speaker AThe Trump administration faced legal challenges after barring the ap, the Associated Press, their journalists from White House events.
Speaker ACiting disagreements over terminology, specifically the AP's refusal to call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.
Speaker AA federal court ruled that this exclusion violated First Amendment protections, emphasizing that the government cannot discriminate against journalism based on their viewpoints.
Speaker ANow, the administration has appealed this decision, which has sparked debates about press freedom and government transparency.
Speaker AIt is a dangerous and slippery slope when the government chooses which journalists and outlets are allowed, quote, unquote, allowed to report.
Speaker AThe next really current example is anti protest legislation that has begun to come through.
Speaker ASo since essentially since Trump was inaugurated, there has been a surge of anti protest legislation across various states, with bills introducing severe penalties for demonstrators, particularly those involved in protests that go against this administration's agenda.
Speaker ACritics, including civil rights organizations, argue that these measures aim to suppress dissent and could have a chilling effect on free expression and assembly.
Speaker ASo this one, actually, I just want to break in here for a moment and also note that this is two pieces of the First Amendment right.
Speaker AThis goes into the ability to protest pieces and to express disagreement with the government.
Speaker ASo pay attention to that as well.
Speaker ASo one of the examples is the federal Safe and Secure Transportation of America Energy act, which proposes up to 20 years in prison and major fines for individuals disrupting pipeline activities.
Speaker ACritics argue that the vague language in these bills heightened the risk of misuse and pose the threat to First Amendment rights by potentially suppressing dissent and peaceful assembly.
Speaker ASo keep an eye on anything that comes up in the news or across your feeds about any kind of anti protest legislation and see what you can pick out of those.
Speaker AThe next one is one of Trump's executive orders on language censorship in federal agencies.
Speaker ANow, some this is something that has not only affected federal agencies, it has begun to affect a lot of different public and private businesses across the board of all sizes.
Speaker AAnd it's something that I will go into in great detail later right after the inauguration.
Speaker AOne of the very first executive orders that Trump signed was one mandating that federal agencies remove programs and content related to diversity, equity, inclusion, dei.
Speaker AThis order included banning specific terminologies associated with race, gender and social justice, aiming to promote traditional values centered on God, family and freedom.
Speaker AWhile the administration asserts that this move is intended to eliminate divisive, quote, unquote, woke culture, opponents contend that it constitutes institutes government censorship infringing upon free speech by restricting the use of certain words and limiting discussions on important social issues within federal institution.
Speaker AI will link a partial list of these terms in the show notes and I We will actually continue to have conversations and discussion on this because this is something that is trickling down in a lot of different ways and it's affecting free speech in many, many different ways.
Speaker ASo I bring this up today.
Speaker AI'm sure that you have seen it come across your feeds, but I want you to pay attention to the way in which it's being shared, the way it's being reported, and see if you can begin to be discerning in the way that you look at the information and understand what's being shared.
Speaker AThe next one is one that's been going on for probably the closer part of a decade, and that is Book bans and libraries.
Speaker AThe American Library association reported a significant number of book challenges and bans in 2024 alone, with over 70% originating from organized groups and elected officials.
Speaker AMost notably, books addressing LGBTQ themes and racial issues have been targeted, which of course raises concerns about censorship and the restriction of diverse perspectives and educational settings.
Speaker ASo these are just a few examples that highlight the ongoing tension around preserving the fundamental right to free speech.
Speaker AThey serve as a reminder of the importance of vigilance and advocacy and upholding our constitutional freedoms.
Speaker AOkay, so now we're going to talk about something that often gets tangled up in conversations about free speech, and that is cancel culture.
Speaker AI know, I know this may activate you in some way, but it is so important to talk about this and to be able to discern between being canceled and being censored.
Speaker AYou've probably heard people say things like, I'm being canceled.
Speaker AWhat about my free speech?
Speaker AWell, here's the important distinction.
Speaker ABeing canceled isn't the same as being censored.
Speaker ACensorship is about the government limiting or punishing speech.
Speaker ACancel culture, whether you love the term or hate it, is more about social consequences.
Speaker AIt's the collective reaction of a community or a workplace or an audience in response to something someone said or someone did.
Speaker ASometimes these consequences are warranted, like when someone uses their platform to spread hate, mis and disinformation, or harmful rhetoric.
Speaker AAnd sometimes the pushback can be disproportionate or unkind.
Speaker AThat's real, too.
Speaker ABut in either case, the person's First Amendment rights have not been violated.
Speaker AThey're still free to speak.
Speaker AWhat they're not free from is criticism or people choosing not to support them anymore.
Speaker AHere's the key.
Speaker AFree speech means you can say something.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean people have to agree with you, and it doesn't mean people owe you a platform.
Speaker AThis is where we can really lean into deeper questions.
Speaker AAre we responding with fairness and compassion?
Speaker AAre we making space for people to learn and to grow?
Speaker AAre we holding people accountable in ways that are constructive, not punitive?
Speaker ASo maybe instead of thinking in terms of canceling, we can think in terms of calling in, calling in honesty, calling in care, and calling in and responding with healthy boundaries.
Speaker ABecause our goal isn't just to win debates.
Speaker AIt's to create spaces where we can all be more human and more kind.
Speaker ASo where does this leave us?
Speaker AFree speech is a cornerstone of democracy.
Speaker AIt allows us to speak our truths.
Speaker AIt allows us to push back.
Speaker AIt allows us to create change.
Speaker ABut it also challenges us to listen well, to think before we speak, and to use our voices with care.
Speaker AIt teaches us to really learn how to be discerning.
Speaker AJust because we can say something doesn't always mean we should.
Speaker ASo I want to leave you with this.
Speaker AHow will you use your voice?
Speaker ANot just because it's protected, but because it's sacred.
Speaker AThank you for spending time with me today.
Speaker ABe kind to yourself, speak with intention, and stay curious until next time.