Risk Taking & The Entrepreneur Journey: A Conversation with Adera Angelucci

Welcome to the joyful journey podcast. If you're looking for more clarity in your life, clarity of purpose or how to activate that purpose, and you are someone who wants to operate from your highest self to be a force for good, you know this world craves, then this is the show for you. I'm Anita Adams, your host and guide to finding clarity and creating a life you love. Let's tap into our inner wisdom, access our highest self and unleash joy. As we do this, we raise our vibration and heightened the collective consciousness and that my friend, is the joyful journey. Let's dive in. Hey, joyful journey are Anita Adams here your host and today I'm excited to introduce you to a Adera Angelucci an award winning TV show host director and producer at Spiro creative Inc. Adera is also the recipient of the community spirit Wow award in 2023. Congratulations on that so exciting. And as a business coach, Adera empowers passionate purpose driven entrepreneurs to elevate their businesses. Her best selling memoir, free spirit explores the connection between self love, chaotic creativity and leadership. With over 20 years of experience in TV, radio, video promotions, marketing and business Adera has witnessed remarkable individuals hesitating to step into the spotlight. With her infectious energy. She reignites passion reaffirms unique gifts, and enables competent message sharing to reach wider audiences. A deer is transformative guidance leads others to fulfillment and contributes to reshaping the world. Welcome Adera. I'm so excited to have you on this show. And I just realize you and I met at least and Marie plant skis. Oh, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't her conference. But we met with her at a conference in Dallas, wasn't it? Right? You went to the Women's Conference? That's right.

We had all this in common in regards to sort of the film industry. And it's Yeah, I was totally magnetized to you because of your infectious energy is well, I see.

Absolutely, they're exactly that there is a beautiful energy that we share together. And I'm I felt that the moment we met and we had a lot of fun in Dallas and got to know each other a little bit. And here we are like, what is it? 456 years later, I then later

really transformed your life. Like really? Yeah, talk about it.

A lot. A lot has happened over the last six years for sure. And for you a mommy. Yes.

So my husband and we were like, What are we going to do for fun? We can't go anywhere. So we were like, Let's have a baby. Adventure.

Oh my gosh, that's definitely um, perhaps life's biggest adventure having kids? Don't I know it?

Oh, 100%. Yeah, it's delicious. It's wonderful. Yeah.

Word great word. No, we're gonna talk about all sorts of stuff. Um, transforming yourself stepping into the best version of who you are risk taking, being an entrepreneur making those shifts and, you know, you exemplify all of that. And so I thought it would be really cool to have a conversation with you about about your journey. Why don't we start there, like I saw something on your website, actually, that I really liked. You share that you are passionate about helping your clients become joyful risk takers, to step into building their businesses with competence. So I can't help thinking that you are that person, you are a joyful risk taker. Can you tell us about your journey in becoming an entrepreneur and learning to take risks? Mm hmm.

So I don't know if your viewers will identify with just feeling out of place a little bit in the, in this society that was sort of built for them. So if we're there at school, or a job or kind of whatever sort of box, you were, you know, happily, you know, guided to you kind of got there and was like, Oh, this doesn't feel right. This doesn't feel like I can fully express here and I don't know what that means. But I was curious personally, and I went on sort of a journey to find where I could feel most fully expressed. The work that I'm here to do in the world, and that was really important to me. And that has been my guiding light, I'd say ever since I sort of entered the workforce I, I had a dream in high school to have my own television show. I remember telling all my friends, one day, I'm going to have my own TV show. And everyone's like, yeah, Ryan, look at a Dara girl, she's like, show off, I get that all the time. Like, she has no problem being the center of attention. And I get not everyone's like that. But I somehow had an okay time sort of just showing up and sort of declaring myself in a room or whatever. And, and then, you know, cut to 11 years later, I did have this TV show that just aired on the local station out here in Vancouver, British Columbia. But it was a dream come true, if you will. And then seeing that and having that actually come to fruition. really gave me confidence that I could do whatever I wanted in this world, right? And then then the Pandora box opens, because you're like, Well, what am I here to really do? You know, like, it wasn't to just run a TV show. I mean, that was sort of one aspect of it. I got to see a bit of mine. Fully expressiveness come out there. But then there was other pieces as you grow and evolve as a human that you really want to try and, and have experience with too. So

beautiful. I love that. So do you feel that by stepping out and pursuing things? You build confidence, so you can continue to do more? Yeah, it's like, it's like competence. Taking action breeds competence isn't?

Always Yeah, you can't get any confidence if you're not doing something. Yeah, yeah. So true. So

true. So I'm interesting. You said something about, you know, just going in, and you have all these ideas and going and trying different things. So did you? Would you try something and discover that? No, that's not really it, you know, and then go and try something else. Is that was that your process for finding where you're really meant to be?

100%. And you know, sometimes you get there, and you're not sure why you don't like it or whatever. Sometimes you're very clear. You're like, this is a mundane job. I can see myself in the future still doing this. And am I happy? No. Okay, next, right. Or sometimes there was aspects of the job you really enjoyed. And then other things that maybe challenged you in a way that didn't feel like that, that was bringing out the best in me. Yeah, you know, and so yeah, it was a lot of trial and error, like, I'm talking like, 60 jobs, you know, over the course of my trying to find what I'm here to do. And then that's when I hit hit entrepreneurship, because honestly, like, I don't know what they teach in school now. But in our era, it was like you got at a school, you either went to more school, or you got a job like that was that was sort of the deal. It wasn't like become your own entrepreneur, woman of light, you know, you can do anything you want to do in the world. You know, that wasn't really

first off, thank you for saying our era. Like a couple of generations older than your era. Thank you for including me in that.

You're just like, I don't know, your D aging as you're traveling the world. I'll tell you that right now. It's all the time job zone jumping, you're doing.

You are precious, I love you. Okay, I want to come back to this. But I think it's really important. So you said you had like all these jobs, and you just kept trying different things and different things. And I had a meeting with one of my clients the other day, and she was talking about disappointment that she goes in and she does something, and then she discovers is not really what she wants. And it totally deflates her. And, and because she's had so many of those experiences, where she's, she's tried something new and and then discovered that it's not really what she wants. She's afraid to take action now because she's afraid that she's going to waste time. I'm curious, from your perspective, having done that multiple times, what's your secret for keeping the faith and the belief in yourself and and continuing to courageously pursue things even if things don't haven't worked out? And they, ultimately they have, but it's taken, as you said, 60 jobs to get to where you are not there.

Gosh, okay, so two things there that old adage of like things happen for you, not to you. And then also if you think of these people who really wanted to be a writer, or really wanted to be an actor was like, they were told no, like, 1000s of times, like so many people would acquit, right? But they just kind of kept going. You hear this often, like the George Clooney story and like you can look at a lot of these successful artists, and how many times they were told no. And then also if she is like me, looking for some sort of fulfillment in her work, like she wants it to be not necessarily like life's work like my guess I'm kind of doing my life's work. as it evolves, and I evolve, but that's what I'm looking for, you know, and a lot of jobs out there don't give you that opportunity really to flourish in that way. And that's why, you know, entrepreneurship really, for me was the answer because I can do anything. I run the ship, right. So, which is a detriment, sometimes you have to deal with your mind. And you're the you're the top B of your, of your, your honeycomb. And so sometimes it's difficult to know what next step to take. But it's been I tell you, entrepreneurship, for me has been the biggest spiritual journey I think I've ever gone on. And so, yeah, anyway, I would tell her to keep going. Sorry, that was say, yeah,

no, absolutely. And one, one of the things that I shared with her is that I don't believe that there's any wrong choice and that everything we do is a part of the journey that's getting us to where we ultimately need to be so. So you know, your 16 jobs. I'm sure that's probably an exaggeration, but the old jobs No,

I had I had 12 and one year and so if you could just imagine from the minute I was like, 16, to I think I quit working for others by the time I was 29. So yeah, yeah, I mean, some jobs were just for the summer, some jobs I last year, only three days, and like I tried my best.

So I love it, I love it. But I would say that that whole journey for yourself was a part of your, your evolution that you needed to do all these things to find where you are ultimately meant to be. So yes, and let

me tell you that no, go ahead.

No, no, you

Well, I was just gonna say to this woman to and to any listener out there, you would start to get on yourself and down on Earth, people would tell you, you have no stick to itiveness you have no discipline, you you know, all of this is getting spat at me as I'm going to journey through this. And of course, I start feeling down and I'm like, why don't I fit anywhere? This is what I mean about these boxes that were put in front of me. And, and it wasn't until, honestly, entrepreneurship was the answer. I don't want to die. But I've been at my job now with spiritual creative Inc for over 11 years. Right? And that is like, boom, there you go. Peeps, like I just saying, yeah, and and why it works for me is because at Riona, Spiro started as a video production company, so we went in and did promotional videos, and commercials and testimonial videos and things like this for businesses. And everyday and Anita, I'm in a different location with a different client, learning about their life. It's almost like you parachute me into all of these industries. And I'm in their little box for the day learning and seeing what they do, grabbing their story. And then like helping to promote that or talk about it online and in different ways that they want to use that video. But why it's kept my interest this long, is because of the variety it has for me, like, I'm constantly doing some I mean, I guess my delivery is the video. But every video is different. And every story is different. And every person is different. And it's It fills my cup.

Yeah, awesome. Now, I imagine being an entrepreneur myself as well, like, I have gone through days and times, sometimes more than just days where I'm like, man, you know, like, this sucks. Even though I love what I do. Have you experienced that? And have you experienced times where you're just like, Oh, I just you know, I don't want to do my accounting, or I don't want it whatever it is that piece of the entrepreneurial journey that you just you have to push yourself through.

Yeah, so the accounting is definitely something I don't do. And I have a girl for that. That's definitely a must do. And then the other thing I want to talk about is partnership, because when you can find someone else to hold the vision with you, and be able to contribute their skills and gifts and talents, to the pieces that you're not great at. Honestly, like I say entrepreneurship, but it's been a co entrepreneurship throughout my entire career of anything that I've done. I feel like it always is more successful when I partner with someone to do those things that I don't want to do. Yeah, yeah, no, I just wish I could say yeah, there's this part of my job. I don't really love job. I know people are like Gob, but it is my job. I love my work. I don't know, I know what you're saying. But I think that's because we do need partners. We do need help and those pieces that we're not as awesome at.

Yeah, absolutely. And I know that there's there's been some days that I feel it's harder to do some of the work that I'm I'm doing and it's just like okay, but this is mine to do and then I lean in and I start start the work and I and then I find that space again where I'm like yeah, this is you know, like I I think I was sharing with you earlier that whenever I do my, my, a live session, so like even my retreats, I've done last year I did 12. Now I did 13 retreats in 11 months. And so I did a ton of retreats and then I also you know, I'm hosting these what I'm masterclasses and I always, I always get really like, like, introverted just before doing these. And I feel like, Oh, I'm so uncomfortable about this whole thing. And then I start I lean in, and I I've my opening night with my guests that my retreats are the, you know, the first couple sentences that I say when I start my masterclass and I, I fall into the work I'm doing and I love it. But there is there is those moments that happen just before it's like almost like a little bit of stage fright. And then I do it. And I'm like that was awesome. So I don't know. I'm just curious. Do you have anything you experienced anything like that? Or is it always awesome for you? 100% of the time?

Oh, awesome for me all the time. Yeah, no, of course, is that that'd be hilarious. If that was true. It's like trying to ride the awesome wave all day, every day. No, that's a good point. I hope it's okay, I swear. But ya know, lace is obviously like, up and down and over and around and good. And not so good. Yeah. But that's so interesting. So for me, that means that you just really care. And and you might get in your head a bit about, like, who all is going to show up? And are they gonna have a good time? And like, am I gonna, you know, give the value that, you know,

that's exactly the inner dialogue that's going on? Exactly, yeah. And then

the minute you kind of like drop in and just grounded and you get present and you're with the people, they're just like, This is amazing. And you're like we're doing this together. Right? So

I guess I'm wondering to presents that because I think people think when you find what you're calling that it's supposed to be awesome all the time. And, and I think it is awesome, a long time. And sometimes it's downright scary and uncomfortable. And I really believe too, when we're doing something that we're that we're meant to do that's shaping the world, like you say you want to you want to have a positive impact in the world, you got to put yourself out there in a big way. And it's just, it's big, bold, and uncomfortable. And of course, you're gonna feel of course, you're going to feel at times, there's going to be moments where you're just you want to hide, I do I felt that often where I just want to hide and then I forced myself outside of that comfort zone. And then it's just like, yeah, yes. So why did I don't myself, you know? So

yeah, well, we do because sometimes things don't work out the way we envisioned it would and then those kind of they we kind of take them as a hit instead of like, it just wasn't meant for that moment, right? Because sometimes we do things that really work. And what I get really fascinated with this, sometimes when it works and you try to replicate it, it doesn't. And then you're just like, I was told to like double down on the thing that works, right? Like that's been every successful person says, like, do the thing that works over and over again. And, and it doesn't for me. And I think that's because I don't want to do repetition. I don't want to mean thing over and over and over again. Yes, you're going to work with me. And we're always going to kind of be in this circle together. Like I put it up, I put myself in a box, but I like the box that I'm in and you're gonna get that work with me, but how it's going to come to you and how I'm going to offer it will always be different and change because that's who I am. Right.

And it keeps it interesting for you. I totally get that 100% Yeah. Okay, um, I want to talk about risk taking again, just to go back to that a little bit. Do you feel like you need to be a risk taker to be a successful entrepreneur? Oh,

my gosh, she has like, first off, you know, my husband and I, when we first said, like, hey, I want to own a video company together. We literally had, I think $1,200 in our bank account, and we bought a $300 DSLR camera we were renting at the time. And so basically, what I'm trying to tell you here is maybe we had a month, maybe a month's worth of you know, income to be able to support this new endeavor, but we both left our jobs and went for it. And I remember charging like $300 a video or 150 a video where I did a lot of Contra work, like where, you know, you gave me this, and I'll give you a video kind of thing. And, like look at us, like 11 years later doing this, but that's a huge risk. You know, and a lot of people aren't willing to take that risk for you know, they're certain they have have circumstances where they feel like it's just not possible for them. And I get that but there has to be some level of risk. Like whether that's putting yourself out there, whether it's you know, oh, I don't know what are all the risks people need to take, you know, voting that person asking for that. position, like whatever that is, yeah. Like you just said to, it's like you go into this hiding and then you either stay there, or you gotta take the risk to step out. Right? And then that's the only way things are ever going to keep unfolding for you. Yeah, absolutely.

I guess there's different levels of risks and different types of risks. There's the risk, where you're just you're stepping out of your comfort zone. And then there's financial risks. And the, you know, the time risks you you're devoting so much time and energy into something and you don't know if it's going to if it's going to pan out. Yes, yeah, yeah. I Yeah. I agree that your old risk?

Yeah. Like, yeah, just take to make going on Adventure risk. Yeah. Risk, risky, risky, risky business. Yeah.

So would you recommend that if if somebody wanted to start a business, would you recommend that they do like a risk assessment, like a personal a personal tolerance, understanding what your ability or willingness is to? To take risk? Would that be a good idea?

Like Austin investing or something? Yeah, I guess if you're into assessments, sure. You know, if you like, that kind of thing, if you like the Tarot, or the astrological design, or your, your archetype, or whatever, yeah, for sure, you can do some studying into that. You really don't know what your risk tolerance is, until you start taking risks. It's kind of like the confidence piece. And then, and then you can see what you can handle and what you can't, right. And when I say you can't, if you choose not to, you know, it's like you wouldn't do it if you couldn't handle it. And then you're doing it and you're like, Oh, I'm not handling this. Well. So back it off a little.

Yeah. And so it sounds like the way you're talking that risk taking and competence are really there, you know, hand in hand, aren't they, they didn't have to have the confidence to take risk, would you have any tips that you can offer on how to boost your your confidence, we already covered one, I guess. And that's just simply stepping into action, just to that's, you know, one baby step will help boost your your competence. Are there other things that you've shared with your clients that helps them find the competence or the self belief to lean into pursuing the entrepreneurial journey?

There is I'm going to share it with you in just one second. But I just wanted to say when it comes to confidence, a lot of times when people struggle with that, it's because they've got trauma with either like a little T or a big T, that has, you know, influenced them throughout their life, when it comes to showing up or saying what they want to say, or doing something, they've been shut down in some capacity. And when that happens to us, you know, it gets held in the body, and it becomes our belief, and then it's trying to overcome that overcome that over and over again, right. And it can be so fearful for so many, and it can take years, sometimes for someone to actually step up on stage, or be able to even pose something or whatever the thing is that we're asking them to jump into, right. And I really think you need to look at what that is that kind of started that, you know, process of you shutting down in that way. And then finding that light within you that that that that you are this gorgeous one in a lifetime, you know, being that's on this planet right now. And that you are absolutely deserving to share and speak and be heard, right, and be seen for who you really are. Because that's truly how we connect to others. And you're giving me a gift by really showing up and being who you are, because I get to really like bask in your light really right and shine back to you. And so to be able to have that interaction with other humans and with yourself, I feel like it takes a lot of self development and personal development. And that can go in all sorts of ways you could find some counseling, or my favorite, which is what I wanted to kind of hit up is the Kundalini training that I've done and continue to do, because it hits on so many aspects of our nervous system and sort of the beliefs that have been held in our body to release them, and then be able to really feel our divine being for a minute so that we can have that sensation and to then be able to remember those that that part of us when we are asked to step forward, and we're asked to take the mic or we're asked to, you know, do something that makes us you know, fearful we can we can take that action because we know we have a strong base. So it's really it's really becoming good and with who you are and what you're here to do and like just a run in with it. You know,

I love that. You know, it's it was a great answer and I forgot that you are also a Kundalini practitioner. Another connection you and I have at sets fun. I love I've studied Kundalini and got sort of FIDE as well, and I teach Putin lenient my my retreats. I love it. I just think it's a very powerful practice,

isn't it? I know, isn't it just like, it's my I cry sob in those classes, I love those classes. Like, it just it is an emotional roller coaster of honestly, like the good stuff. Like, it's just it's such a feel good. And, you know, and having that base yet understand what I mean when I say that it's almost like, so even when you were talking about doing things in our business that doesn't, doesn't really like fill our cup in that moment. But it brings us there. That's kind of what I mean to it's not that I have this like Kundalini aspect to it. But I just know that it's all a part of the process and all like, almost when so in kundalini, for anyone who doesn't know, sometimes you can have your arms in a V, like above your head for like, eight minutes, okay? And your shoulders are like, I freaking hate you. I hate you. I hate I hate this teacher. I hate this pose. You know, like, you just want to scream and like leave and you want to put your arms down. You can't be arms now. It's like, just imagine all that going on in your head while your arms are up. Right? And it's just like, it really builds you know, endurance in your life. Right? For when we just like push through to get to the good stuff, which I don't know what really comes from the good stuff after your arms Good. Well, the the relief really thank the Lord that's over. To hilarious, might come back to a class because that's what happened to him. And he was like, put my arms out for eight minutes.

I have never experienced that actually, that really so I went

it was the hardest part Kundalini class that we went.

Yeah. What I love about Kundalini is the it's all about bowing to the divine wisdom within and that's, that's, that's my language. That's what we're here to do is to understand who we are. And this Kundalini practice is such a beautiful way. For me. Beautiful way of tapping into that through breathwork and repetitive exercises. I just I find it so beautiful.

And Montra with like, chanting and dancing, so who I go to and I'm happy to drop notes on her. She's best but she like Blair's it's almost like a rave in the middle of the day with zero drugs. It's so fun. And

she online that you do online. Oh, yeah. So maybe I can do that from Albania and check out your classes to you. Okay, please. And we'll share it with any of the listeners as well, in case you're wanting to check that this is not the direction I was planning on going. But it's awesome. I love it. I love it. So, so good. I mean, these are these are all tools though, that we use right to connect with ourselves to be our best. And it's yes, this is just one of those one of those tools. Yeah. Oh, we're so polite. Both of us Canadians here wanting to make room for the other just meet you go. I'm the host you speak.

I just wanted to say those tools that you're speaking of Anita those had to be there for me to be able to be who I am now in my work. So yeah, if you're out there, you know, looking for like I said, I did want to find a job that brought me fulfillment, but only after I found my own personal fulfillment. So you know, this, the job I have now doesn't make me my relationship doesn't make me my, you know, all the things that I've created around me, doesn't make me I already am perfect whole and complete as as I am, and I already had that in me, then as your base to then go out and find the things that are also going to bring you joy really is the essence of it.

Yeah, experience. Yeah. Beautifully said. Thank you, Adera. You and I, we speak the same language and told you, I told you all right. Um, yeah, just to close up on the spiritual tools, I think it's really important to find the things that work for you and Kundalini works for me might not work for somebody else is listening to it to this, there are so many different tools out there that we can use to help us tap into that, that inner wisdom that will then help us find our joy and find the path that we're supposed to be on. So recruiting tool. Yeah. So in your experience with working with all your clients, what is would you say the main or one of the main reasons people are hesitant to step into the spotlight and to embrace their calling.

One thing really is that they just want to do the thing they're good at so whether they're like a fitness instructor or a coach, you know, a sandwich maker, they literally just want to do the thing. And they just want people to come to them but they don't want to actually go out there and get the people they're not really it. interested or know how to, you know, share themselves in bigger rooms or whether it be networking or online on social media or whatever. They're just kind of at a loss for that. And that's usually what keeps them stuck. I mean, they might be doing fine in their business, but they want to, obviously, more. Yeah, go on.

Yeah, yeah, I get that. And that's your area of expertise, isn't it, it's helping people find their message so that they can easily get reach their audience without the stress.

Yeah, like so through the 1000s of people we've worked with, Oh, cool. I don't know I'm really I'm really good at seeing somebody kind of off the bat and then really hearing what it is they're they're wanting to share and do. And then I have a way of just phrasing it in a way and putting together sort of a path for them, that would make it really easy for them to share. And sometimes they have a hard time with that, still, they don't want to actually do the sharing. So then I, they would pay me to do that for them. So whether that be the social media posts or their videos or whatever, I really love it. Because I see fascinating people that just offer such goodness in the world. And I just want more for them. I want, I want more people to know of them. I want to direct their money into those areas, like you and Anita, I want to bring all you the money, I want to bring you all the money. And so now that it's all about the money, but the hearts want to bring you the hearts and the hearts, it just happened to carry the wallet. So yeah. And yeah, and really shift our planet to really start being more conscious, and thoughtful. And, you know, putting our dollar into places that are actually like uplifting each other and helping Mother Earth versus the opposite, which I know we don't mean to do. But the world's just sort of been structured that way where, you know, some things that we deem important are actually quite detrimental. So it's just learning how to wake up from that, and then start to start to support people who are helping in that process.

I love that that's a focus for you. And they you're got so much clarity in the kind of clients that you want to work with as well. So you're modeling, you're modeling what you teach people as well, by sharing, that's the kind of client that you want to work with. So beautiful. I think that's important. Okay. Um, so I wanted to talk to you about your book. I thoroughly enjoyed it when I came out. Free Spirit is the name of a deer's book. And in it she explores the connection between self love, chaotic creativity and leadership. And I curious about exploring the, the connection between these three things. Let's talk about that self love, chaotic creativity, the airship, so can you sum up the connection between these three things?

I sure can. So it was kind of what this is a great way to kind of go full circle with our talk. Because really, that self love piece is that base that you and I were talking about. So finding a modality or tools that really help support your your self love and and your spiritual awakening and evolution and understanding the divinity that is within you, right that you have access to at all times. Right? So that's your self love piece. And then from there, you go out and be chaotically creative. That's where you find your confidence. That's where you try things. That's where you start to learn and you grow when you do the thing. And then the leadership piece is once you've got all that knowledge, which is really your collage, if you will, if you didn't go to college experience, then you're able to really see where you want to lead in your life and the kinds of things that you want to take a firm stand in and on and and you start sort of directing your energy and time in those areas. And then you kind of if you're not a leader of other, you are a leader always of others, but you lead in your own life. And then as you're doing that others will will follow and then they'll become leaders too. We want I mean, I want a whole world of leaders who know how to reciprocate and be led and, and lead. And we're all sort of working together for the one big mission of really supporting each other and the planet is really my my why. Yeah, but the book kind of takes you on a journey. I'm just gonna say the book just takes you on a journey. And after each chapter, I asked you questions around your life and those pieces for you so that you're kind of following along to find your own way of leading in the world.

Yeah, it's a great time personal growth book. So and I love the stories that you share and your personal journey and then the opportunity to be reflective. It's Very well done. So very thankful. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. And I love the chaotic creativity is that that's, again, maybe that's a reflection of you going out and just being like trying all these different things, right is that is that where that idea comes from just going out in and exploring and trying things and even within your own business, just keep trying things that light you up that Phil, that there's things that you're excited about doing. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, we'll move on to the next thing is that kind of what you're talking about with the creative that

I mean, my my editor came up with the word chaotic, and it does kind of have a negative undertone to it or something like Canuck, like who wants to be chaotic, right. But it was chaotic a bit because it would be like I'm over here. Now I'm over here. Now I'm trying this thing, you know, and it was just that Anita it was like, this is working. This doesn't work. Oh, I don't like this, you know. And then it was finding, you know, even now when I feel I feel the most centered and grounded in in my why, if you will of like, why do the work I do. I'm still sort of building out an evolving how I want to best serve, which I don't think will ever end. But you know, it's it's more clear now to me after 11 years than it ever has been before. So and that's only because of the time and same with you like you'll come on masterclass probably in three years, and you won't have that same butterfly feeling and not that you won't carry on carry lots. But you've had so much experience now doing it that it doesn't kind of hit you the same way, you're more excited, you already know what kind of value you bring right to others, you don't really question that anymore.

Maybe, maybe maybe. You know, it's, it's interesting, because I used to host events, live events for the film industry. It was a script breeding event that I did for seven years. And I would always feel that for seven years, I'd always feel that little tinge twinge of you know, and excitement but nervousness before going on stage and introducing the night and whatnot. And I remember there was a couple times where I didn't quite have that that same energy and the night fell flat, which is interesting. I think we bring the creative energy. So nervousness is another, you know, as a form of creative energy. And so I'm okay if I, if I will always feel a little bit of that, you know, and I also feel that's part of me knowing that I'm stepping out of my comfort zone, you know, and that's, and that's the growth zone, they you know, stepping out of your comfort zone is the growth zone and I don't want to keep growing. So, okay with that discomfort.

Well, now you're making me think I need to push myself more. So you might be right. Yeah, maybe I've gotten too comfortable in either too comfortable. Or questioning myself again.

Oh, I don't know. There's there's some times where we need to be comfortable too, for sure. And you've got a not quite two year old right now. So there's a lot going on in your life. Very good. So adera if people wanted to connect with you, can you tell us a little bit about the programs that you do? Do you do one on one coaching? I know you offer retreats as well? Do you have other programs? Like give us that give us the lay of the land? How can we work

with things? Yeah, so Adera Angelucci.com was kind of where you can get a good hit on me. And I offer a light up package, which really, is this two hour sort of deep dive into what you're wanting to create, or what you've already created? And coming up with sort of the messaging behind that how best we want to promote you online offline, like where do you need to be? How do we best you know, show you up so that it really feels aligned for you. Because it's super important. Like, I want you to look at your brand. So whatever the brand is, a brand is a word that I'm not 100% sure how I feel about it. It's basically who you are, and on your for your website, or your logo or whatever all feels super juicy. Like that's me, right? I think that's super important. And then, and then I help you get clients basically. So we we look at my network of 1000s of women, and then we look at your network and we we come up with ways in which we can get your name out there. So that's really what I love to do. And then follow up to that would be if you're in my hood, you know, I could come and take pictures of you. We could do real news and social media kind of stuff together. Or you can hire my more expensive company Spiro creative Inc, and we can do a proper, like promotional video. Depends on where you're at in your business. Yeah.

Awesome. I love it. Adera also has a wonderful newsletter that she puts out consistently, you're so much more consistent than I love it. And you put out some really great information on in your newsletter. So how would people find that on your website? I'm assuming as well. Yeah,

yeah. I opt in there is just a three ways to promote yourself with ease. And then if you just sign up for that and you get your little PDF, then I send an email out usually once a month of events and things that are going on that you could show up at to share yourself. Yeah.

Awesome good stuff. Well, thank you so much for joining me today was fun. I just I love this this kind of conversation it this doesn't feel like work. This is just hanging out with good people and, you know, learning about each other and catching up and all that stuff. And I've got some good tips that you've shared with us today that I'll I'll be practicing as well. So thank you so much for being here with us, and joyful journey or if you know anybody that is looking to expand their business and they're needing some, you know, the PR services and branding services that Adera offers, share this with them. Let them know about the work that a deer is doing. And yeah, and we'll catch you next time. Thanks for tuning in.

Thanks, joyful journey ears. And Anita.