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Get to know Maison who was limited in speech and language caused by 18 seizures at 8 months old. Because of hard work in therapy, he is now an effective communicator and has a podcast himself.
About the Guest:
"My name is Maison Collawn. I am the host and founder of MC Anime Podcast. The idea of MC Anime started from blogging and slowly it began to be podcasting. A little bit about myself are that fandoms and pop culture are my pastimes. My favorite pastimes are Pokémon Nintendo gaming, Yugioh TCG dueling, and watching TV shows. It is exciting creating content and having conversations relating to anime, geek culture, and Japanese esthetics or Asian Studies. Overall this project combines my passion towards anime and Mass Communications into MC Anime Podcast as we know it. I thoroughly love doing MC Anime and I want to continue and even having you as potential fans. Feel free to contact myself at blogmcanime@gmail.com for general questions and business inquiries."
Website: https://mcanimepodcast.com/
Social Media Links: https://linktr.ee/MCAnime
About the Host:
I am Saylor Cooper, Owner of Real Variety Radio and host of the Hope Without Sight Podcast. I am from the Houston, Texas area and am legally blind which is one of the main reasons why I am hosting this show surrounding this topic , to inspire others by letting them know that they can live their best life and reach their highest potential.
Website: https://realvarietyradio.com/
About the Co-host:
My name is Matthew Tyler Evans and I am from the Northeast Texas area. I am blind like Saylor is and we have the same retinal condition. I decided to join Saylor‘s podcast because I have a strong interest in teaming up with him and I think together, we can inspire the world with others with disabilities.
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Hello, everybody, welcome to another episode of
Saylor Cooper:How Without Sight with your host, Saylor Cooper,
Tyler Evans:and Tyler Evans,
Saylor Cooper:and of course what's doing whether they are
Saylor Cooper:done next accountable on the podcast content creation camp.
Saylor Cooper:And this is episode 15. And tonight who I'm interviewing is
Saylor Cooper:actually my roommate. I've selected to interview him
Saylor Cooper:because he's had so much adversity himself and he can
Saylor Cooper:attest that he's ever come in. Please welcome Maison Collawn,
Saylor Cooper:Maison how you enjoying this camp?
Maison Collawn:It's been an interesting day. We just got
Maison Collawn:into a photography session, went to the beach had a picnic.
Maison Collawn:Puerto Vallarta is more Puerto Vallarta in Mexico, the podcast
Maison Collawn:and creation camp is really cool. We had the outreach and
Maison Collawn:fire Palooza to do that. So
Saylor Cooper:yes,
Maison Collawn:we are ready to go and having a good content and
Maison Collawn:having various content and life people in the same place usually
Maison Collawn:goes well, and three studios at that as well. soundproofing
Maison Collawn:everything.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, yeah, that's right. We're in a
Saylor Cooper:soundproof studio. It's awesome that we're doing what we're
Saylor Cooper:calling toll free studios. And yes, we've we've done a lot of
Saylor Cooper:photo shoots. We took lots of photos today. Thanks to a
Saylor Cooper:professional photographer. I can't wait to receive some of
Saylor Cooper:those photos. It's going to be awesome. So yeah,
Maison Collawn:yep. And you have a device descriptor. So
Maison Collawn:does guess,
Saylor Cooper:should you? Yeah, I'm talking to you last week.
Maison Collawn:So this is gonna do a few bargains to what I do,
Maison Collawn:and SEO information and website. So basically, I'm the founder of
Maison Collawn:NC anime podcast. So this is podcast like minded individuals
Maison Collawn:at this podcast creation camp in Mexico. And as a result, my
Maison Collawn:podcast covers anime geek culture, Asian Studies and
Maison Collawn:Japanese aesthetics. And a little bit more about me as I
Maison Collawn:work full time and CO Deus. And I have a good story to tell
Maison Collawn:about adversity, and how to overcome it.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, take it away.
Maison Collawn:So I guess, Gone with the first part of
Maison Collawn:adversity. Identify the problem, how I got here. The first
Maison Collawn:problem was, after 18 months, when I was getting the vaccine
Maison Collawn:shot between 18 months and five years, how I had an episode
Maison Collawn:about 18 Different seizures. I had all types of seizures,
Maison Collawn:including the grandmal type seizures. And as a result that
Maison Collawn:affected my learning process and set me back in the vital months
Maison Collawn:when I'm in the childhood state to learn and communicate speech.
Maison Collawn:And that's sent me on a path to be in speech therapy for you for
Maison Collawn:many years to come. And, you know, have IEP and stuff in the
Maison Collawn:visual learning environment.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, I know about those IPs. I know Tyler,
Saylor Cooper:you know about him too, right.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, I've heard of them before. Called ARVs. Ard
Tyler Evans:meetings. Yeah. That we will review and
Saylor Cooper:so you so you've had you had how many seizures
Saylor Cooper:that you have 18 months.
Maison Collawn:I have had the worst seizures, which was also
Maison Collawn:grandmal type seizures as well. So be shaking. I can do has had
Maison Collawn:the last remaining seizures at such a young age as well. Oh,
Saylor Cooper:my goodness, that's terrible. Yeah, I know. I
Saylor Cooper:had his title. I told you I had a lot of seizures as well and
Saylor Cooper:did not tell you my story about procedure that I had. Yeah.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, I'd like to have them, too. I think you have
Tyler Evans:two different episodes or three of them. Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:Yes. Actually. Pepper was cool. When I almost
Saylor Cooper:drowned. So but yeah, had a lot of seizures. And But thankfully,
Saylor Cooper:I have a common.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, you have. Now you don't you don't have them
Tyler Evans:anymore. No, don't have any
Saylor Cooper:more. No, no, I
Maison Collawn:don't have them as well. But I do have a very
Maison Collawn:long time as a young age. And through that mental process. I
Maison Collawn:went backwards instead of going forward. So what actually ended
Maison Collawn:up happening? They think that maybe the vaccine at the time at
Maison Collawn:18 eat lunch was possibly a trigger for beginning seizure,
Maison Collawn:and then more seizures led up some sentiment after. But, you
Maison Collawn:know, that is the vaccine to buckle about the controversy if
Maison Collawn:the vaccines actually is home or home for them good.
Tyler Evans:Well, we can Are you are you referring to the
Tyler Evans:COVID 19? Vaccines or what? No, no, no, no
Maison Collawn:18 months? Vaccine those 18 months? Oh,
Saylor Cooper:so you got the standard vaccines that all
Saylor Cooper:babies get out? Yeah.
Maison Collawn:Thanks. So it's like cars and that vaccine for
Maison Collawn:the see. I see. Because I came out of nowhere and it was
Maison Collawn:coincidental that the vaccine happened seizures started
Maison Collawn:happening after since out.
Saylor Cooper:So do you still have seizures today? Or have you
Saylor Cooper:outgrown them?
Maison Collawn:I started having them up to five years old. After
Maison Collawn:five years,
Saylor Cooper:all
Maison Collawn:of them in close proximity of timeframe in early
Maison Collawn:childhood. It set me back very drastically. And that had to
Maison Collawn:make the like, catch up with my entire elementary and even
Maison Collawn:middle school, even when I caught us classes.
Tyler Evans:Wow. So you do know Apple, a lot of people think
Tyler Evans:that all seizures are epileptic, but they're not. No. Some
Tyler Evans:people, some people. Some people have what's called NAS, non
Tyler Evans:epileptic seizures, which can be caused by a number of factors
Tyler Evans:including diabetes, infection, trauma, things like that. But
Tyler Evans:also, epilepsy can be triggered by stuff too. Yeah. It's and
Tyler Evans:then of course, stroke can also be a contributing factor to
Tyler Evans:certain seizures, too.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah. But yeah, I
Maison Collawn:think in my case, it was just one thing went
Maison Collawn:wrong and kept going wrong. Because yeah, the fact that so
Maison Collawn:it kept going back. Yeah.
Tyler Evans:they've ever had seizures,
Maison Collawn:those official diagnosis is no I had seizures.
Saylor Cooper:They just say you outgrew them when you were five.
Saylor Cooper:And that you still had use as speech therapy, because you had
Saylor Cooper:to learn how to speak again or less.
Maison Collawn:When I was going on a timeframe. I spoke on
Maison Collawn:language. I was the only person who could actually understand
Maison Collawn:what I was saying.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. Black waitstaff, what are you saying?
Maison Collawn:I said, Oh, my, I call my blue baby. That's how
Maison Collawn:I call them. Just things I said, doesn't make any sense. Only the
Maison Collawn:ideas.
Saylor Cooper:And so you want said your mom could understand
Saylor Cooper:you, but your dad couldn't like. Okay, so
Maison Collawn:the understanding of my mother was
Maison Collawn:fighting for me to have a chance to be successful. That's how
Maison Collawn:understanding my dad the stand of the Asperger's spectrum at
Maison Collawn:the time. It didn't know how to handle me and discipline me,
Maison Collawn:right. Wow.
Saylor Cooper:told me you're on the autism spectrum, right? Yes.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. Yeah, I know, people on the autism spectrum who are very
Saylor Cooper:successful. And in fact, Tyler, we interviewed someone
Saylor Cooper:yesterday.
Tyler Evans:Yes, we did. Yeah, so question. Not everyone who
Tyler Evans:has epilepsy has autism, right.
Maison Collawn:I mean, yeah, I'm not I don't really know that
Maison Collawn:the underlying condition of epilepsy and connecting with
Maison Collawn:autism,
Tyler Evans:but there can be a connection. Some people have
Tyler Evans:both.
Maison Collawn:There might be a connection, but I'm not a
Maison Collawn:doctor. I don't know.
Tyler Evans:Well, my sister in law, she has epilepsy, but I
Tyler Evans:know she doesn't have autism. As far as I know, she don't
Maison Collawn:think Epilepsy is a separate condition that
Maison Collawn:doesn't have to be combined with autism.
Tyler Evans:No, no. Yeah, it's just interesting how, like,
Tyler Evans:sometimes it can be interconnected sometimes. You
Tyler Evans:know.
Maison Collawn:I don't have autism because of seizures.
Maison Collawn:Right? Because, oh, I need to sign up both. With traces in the
Maison Collawn:family.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah. So you have other family members who are on
Saylor Cooper:the spectrum as well.
Maison Collawn:Potentially my grandfather, Oh, wow. could have
Maison Collawn:skipped a generation. Be a recessive gene in the banana,
Maison Collawn:banana co monopoly, because my mom thinks he has Asperger's as
Maison Collawn:well. He axes, like very specific of politics and has a
Maison Collawn:routine that he sticks to the common trend of gay common or
Maison Collawn:intelligent, high skill and Pacific areas, fixed interests
Maison Collawn:routine, don't like change, and you can get combative
Saylor Cooper:easily. Yeah. And by the way, it's not Asperger's
Saylor Cooper:anymore. It's just as defined by the DSM. It's now considered
Saylor Cooper:Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Maison Collawn:Okay, I'm still gonna classical. Yeah, of
Maison Collawn:course. Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:So let's fast forward. After you will seizure
Saylor Cooper:free five years old, you went on, you'll do all the speech
Saylor Cooper:therapy and all that. And will you did you have other hardships
Saylor Cooper:besides that? And if so, how did you overcome them,
Maison Collawn:um, most of the hardships while being isolated
Maison Collawn:in school because I was different. I didn't get along
Maison Collawn:with people my own age level, I often got along with people, way
Maison Collawn:older than I was. So most adults, we get along with
Maison Collawn:better. And throughout the entire high school. All
Maison Collawn:throughout elementary school, I only have very few friends. And
Maison Collawn:then six, Middle School in high school, I had no friends, like,
Maison Collawn:no friends, like outside of school. I knew everybody they
Maison Collawn:knew me. But it wasn't the same as actually having a no
Maison Collawn:obligation to someone outside of that school environment.
Saylor Cooper:It's like you couldn't connect with them or
Saylor Cooper:what?
Maison Collawn:No interest,
Saylor Cooper:no interest.
Maison Collawn:I didn't pursue a friendship as much. I just
Maison Collawn:stayed in my own bubble. But I was highly volunteering in high
Maison Collawn:school and being involved. That's good. But that was mostly
Maison Collawn:me volunteering.
Saylor Cooper:That when I was most you volunteering. And
Saylor Cooper:you're I know you're working full time. But you're in college
Saylor Cooper:now too, right? Yeah, I have my associates. Cool. And did that
Saylor Cooper:gauge their friendships change? In college? or
Maison Collawn:Yes, I was able to find a group but the enemy
Maison Collawn:club rentals community college in Virginia, that have a very
Maison Collawn:unique following in similar interests. The thing that I was
Maison Collawn:lacking was a group of people that had similar interests that
Maison Collawn:were very strong in such an interest. I see the interest
Maison Collawn:building was not there for me. So I pursued my own method of to
Maison Collawn:entertain myself in dive into volunteering as a means of
Maison Collawn:escape. No friendship in high school. i That's why I did the
Maison Collawn:bingo. That's why I did the two you videography recording for
Maison Collawn:the basketball team, the football team for five years
Maison Collawn:volunteering the concessions at football games and actually keep
Maison Collawn:doing it. And also do bingo and chain games as well.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. I mean, you had struggles but you did adapt?
Maison Collawn:Well. It was mostly when sixth grade. I had a
Maison Collawn:I had a champion in my side. My mother. My mother has a
Maison Collawn:background in teaching what she was able to do. She took her
Maison Collawn:teaching background and apply the Individual Learning Plan
Maison Collawn:pacifically for me, that the school didn't want to adapt
Maison Collawn:because they didn't have previous experience doing it.
Maison Collawn:After she developed that model in the elementary school. Other
Maison Collawn:people were able to benefit from her action. And they were able
Maison Collawn:to learn and actually succeed on a learning plan that was
Maison Collawn:actually getting them ahead. She was a fighter every single way.
Maison Collawn:It's amazing.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, Tyler, I know you've probably shared a
Saylor Cooper:similar story with Mason tell tell him
Tyler Evans:I was I was basically thinking the same
Tyler Evans:thing. My mom fought for me so that I could be mainstreamed in
Tyler Evans:class despite my blindness. Basically, we went to Austin
Tyler Evans:where I live in Texas. That's the Capitol. We were there twice
Tyler Evans:to rally legislatures to pass a bill here to where anyone with a
Tyler Evans:disability if they if their family permits, or if their
Tyler Evans:family they can be a normal classes, mainstream classes,
Tyler Evans:regular classes like everyone else. And basically we this
Tyler Evans:group took us to Austin on charter buses. And we went with
Tyler Evans:them We went there twice. And yep. It was back when I was
Tyler Evans:about five or six, five and six. I think.
Maison Collawn:So your mom was like that. And largest later
Maison Collawn:than mine just been in a fight me at the school board every
Maison Collawn:which way for my individual blame?
Tyler Evans:Oh, yeah. Well, she went to all the meetings. So
Tyler Evans:what's called ARD meetings, admission review and dismissal
Tyler Evans:meetings and all that. And, yeah, she thought for me, my dad
Tyler Evans:did too. But it was really my mom who did it.
Maison Collawn:Yeah. My dad was at some meetings because it got
Maison Collawn:pretty bad. And the administration in my elementary
Maison Collawn:school was like, no, no, he can do the best he can in the lab.
Maison Collawn:And he is why don't you want to succeed? At the level he's at?
Maison Collawn:Why do you want him to do things though? Make him fail and not
Maison Collawn:have progress? They were very relaxed about doing anything to
Maison Collawn:help me.
Saylor Cooper:I never was they didn't think you can go. You can
Saylor Cooper:reach your highest potential, although you could write
Maison Collawn:highest potential they didn't care. Wow.
Maison Collawn:All and actually the thing in the old court. So my mom had a
Maison Collawn:fight them to the nail. And he actually, like, some of the
Maison Collawn:things that you did was way beyond what should have actually
Maison Collawn:happened.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. And, yeah, cuz a lot of school public
Saylor Cooper:schools, they, you know, underestimate children along the
Saylor Cooper:way, especially with special needs. I've, I've had that
Saylor Cooper:experience as well.
Maison Collawn:And also No Child Left Behind Act doesn't
Maison Collawn:help.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, totally familiar with that, right. Oh,
Saylor Cooper:yeah.
Tyler Evans:And in fact, I've never agreed with it. In fact,
Tyler Evans:it should be my opinion repealed.
Saylor Cooper:Why we appealed?
Tyler Evans:Because it's why because it's one size fits all.
Tyler Evans:stigmatizing. Yeah. It's one size fits all. That's from Yeah.
Tyler Evans:In my opinion, in my opinion, education does not belong.
Tyler Evans:centralized in one area in Washington, DC, we need to just
Tyler Evans:make it to where the states play a role in education and the
Tyler Evans:localities play a role, not the federal government at all?
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense.
Maison Collawn:But at the same time, without the regulation,
Maison Collawn:the states, some states be less than other states. So it has
Maison Collawn:somewhat equal playing field, at least for like a basic model
Maison Collawn:where the states still put their own changes to that bottle.
Maison Collawn:Yeah, well, you know, one other thing about me was doctors
Maison Collawn:wanted to label me as retardation. And my mom was
Maison Collawn:refusing that label because she thought I could do better, and
Maison Collawn:actually, was not mentioned in the title. Doc was wanting to
Maison Collawn:label me as that and they she refused to have that label.
Saylor Cooper:Now you're doing great, in my opinion, really
Saylor Cooper:awesome. And you're you're here, you're here for VR to for
Saylor Cooper:reason, just like I am to hopefully to begin your journey
Saylor Cooper:in entrepreneurship. You want to make money with your podcasts,
Saylor Cooper:right?
Maison Collawn:Well, potable water I paid out of pocket for I
Maison Collawn:didn't ask for help. Well,
Saylor Cooper:yeah, you put my money. Yeah, me too. I paid to
Saylor Cooper:you. You're coming here. You want to learn to hopefully
Saylor Cooper:monetize and make money, right? Yeah,
Maison Collawn:I don't need a podcast manager. I just need a
Maison Collawn:way to make upscale my business and be able to make a profit
Maison Collawn:margin of some kind of in the scheme of things a bit of the
Saylor Cooper:audience base. Exactly. Yeah. Like,
Maison Collawn:you know, Logan, Paul, the story that, me that,
Maison Collawn:you know, after that launching of that Pacific learning plan
Maison Collawn:that was later used for other people at the elementary school
Maison Collawn:that actually succeeded for them as well. After that
Maison Collawn:successfully, I was able to catch up to my reading level.
Maison Collawn:And fifth grade, I was like, I was still in special ed. But
Maison Collawn:when Sixth grade came around halfway in the year, I caught up
Maison Collawn:to sixth grade Calab and special ed anymore. I just I was all in
Maison Collawn:to teach classes at that point. Oh.
Saylor Cooper:Oh, right now. Yep. That was how awesome is
Saylor Cooper:that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so let's fast forward now. To the
Saylor Cooper:highest score you did well, right?
Maison Collawn:Yeah. The only area that actually I exceeded
Maison Collawn:all my academics. I took my academics very seriously. I love
Maison Collawn:that. And the concepts that were really easy for me. I understood
Maison Collawn:it in minimum effort. I got straight A's and one B. That's
Maison Collawn:the 4.1 point 4.018 When I graduated high school.
Saylor Cooper:Awesome. Wow. And you went to a community college?
Saylor Cooper:Why did you study there? Why'd you major in
Maison Collawn:science as a bridge to transfer to a
Maison Collawn:bachelor's for bass communications? Or blog?
Maison Collawn:Estremoz?
Saylor Cooper:Do you want to transfer to a university or what
Saylor Cooper:are you? What are your future plans?
Maison Collawn:Well, I'll do it when I get the moment. Just
Maison Collawn:right now, doing the podcasts need the money flow? So I'm
Maison Collawn:looking for time to get the money flow because the pockets
Maison Collawn:not making money. Pocket stop making money, I'll have a
Maison Collawn:incentive to go back to college to finish my bachelor's.
Saylor Cooper:Oh, awesome. Wonderful. Well, Nathan, you've
Saylor Cooper:overcome so much. A lion. You deserve a hand and clap. That
Saylor Cooper:say yeah, you would hope to the future to get this podcast
Saylor Cooper:making money and Oh, yeah. Yeah, meet you meet you. My co
Maison Collawn:host. I do like one episode a week. And then I
Maison Collawn:have a couple of designer and Asana.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah. And, and I helped to translate on a podcast
Saylor Cooper:last night, in fact, with Suzy, her favorite TV show?
Maison Collawn:Well, we did her favorites, hello novella. And it
Maison Collawn:was interesting because I really, when I did Spanish in
Maison Collawn:high school, in Spanish in college, tell them whatever was
Maison Collawn:interesting soap opera, volitional programming in
Maison Collawn:countries like Mexico that were actually really kind of cool to
Maison Collawn:people liking. I wanted to count for that podcast because it
Maison Collawn:covers a fan base cultural fandom that is in a different
Maison Collawn:culture. But still unique to that culture. Just like anime
Maison Collawn:animation in Japan is unique in that regard.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. So your podcast mainly is on animation.
Saylor Cooper:Right?
Maison Collawn:That's animate the cultural, Japanese and Asian
Maison Collawn:Studies.
Saylor Cooper:How Austin? Great. Well as always, Tyler, do
Saylor Cooper:you have any more questions for our guest?
Tyler Evans:I don't think so. Just
Saylor Cooper:share should we wrap it up?
Tyler Evans:Basically. Actually, let's do it.
Maison Collawn:Let's go into that show. Before we go. Ah,
Tyler Evans:well, I was basically born blind. I was born
Tyler Evans:blind like him like him. In fact, I have the same story.
Tyler Evans:Almost the same story as him.
Saylor Cooper:Yes.
Tyler Evans:And I'm blind still.
Saylor Cooper:You will come how to live with it.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, we came how to live with it. Pretty much
Maison Collawn:you fortunately
Tyler Evans:that's her brother. Brothers being a distraction
Tyler Evans:right now.
Saylor Cooper:Okay, so are you blind? Are you totally blind or
Saylor Cooper:partially blind?
Tyler Evans:Oh, I have life. Yeah, I have read enough. I have
Tyler Evans:retinopathy of prematurity. Basically my eyes. The retina
Tyler Evans:detached because it lacked oxygen on the retina.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah. Yep. I have to. Really now they're almost
Saylor Cooper:brothers brothers from another mother. Isn't that
Tyler Evans:crazy? Yeah. And what's interesting is I have a
Tyler Evans:twin brother and a blog and get This he was born blind to, but
Tyler Evans:his eyes reversed three months after birth, meaning he went
Tyler Evans:from Blind decided
Saylor Cooper:and, and I have a twin sister is saying the same
Saylor Cooper:thing happened to her so
Tyler Evans:you ever tried and it's just amazing. You tell your
Maison Collawn:twin.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, I probably told you I was Yeah, that's
Saylor Cooper:fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tyler Evans:Yeah. It's just an and here's what's cool man
Tyler Evans:sailor met in college at SFA Stephen F Austin University in
Tyler Evans:academics in the fall of 2014. Yeah. That's how we met. And I
Tyler Evans:truly believe that God put us here for a reason.
Saylor Cooper:Yes, he did. Yes, he did.
Tyler Evans:I believe the same thing is true, inspire others.
Maison Collawn:God put us on a path that is who we are, who we
Maison Collawn:want people that he shows along the way when they come along.
Tyler Evans:That's right. That's right. And for those who
Tyler Evans:don't believe in that sort of thing, you do have a purpose.
Tyler Evans:Yeah, you do, whether you believe in God or not, or Allah
Tyler Evans:or whatever,
Maison Collawn:you know, whatever your when they said
Maison Collawn:they don't believe but they believe that something is there.
Maison Collawn:And that is working. That even if you're not being felt, people
Maison Collawn:reach out to them. You know, you made them in a gently knit
Maison Collawn:fashion, not forced upon them, but let them choose the
Maison Collawn:borrower.
Saylor Cooper:And so,
Tyler Evans:exactly. Yeah. You're hearing a lot of noise
Tyler Evans:folks on the podcast. That's just my sister in law's little
Tyler Evans:brother. Yeah.
Maison Collawn:All right happens.
Saylor Cooper:Well, yeah, you have nothing else to share, I
Saylor Cooper:guess let's wrap it up. So like customer ending, I always end
Saylor Cooper:with is, what advice would you give anybody who's struggling
Saylor Cooper:like now can't see a way forward.
Maison Collawn:Okay, they can't see it very forward. Let them
Maison Collawn:have a network to be able to rely on it as my that was my
Maison Collawn:mother. Because I couldn't fight for myself, because I was too
Maison Collawn:young. And she could have easily been reversed. If she wasn't
Maison Collawn:having a teacher background. She could have possibly given up and
Maison Collawn:not known in the education system to fight for the child.
Maison Collawn:Because sometimes people with disabilities and the education
Maison Collawn:system seems to lack is a poor parent or non educated parent
Maison Collawn:who doesn't know what to do. Those types. People need to
Maison Collawn:reach out to a specialist to have an advocate for them. So my
Maison Collawn:best advice is reaching for an advocate of some kind, to help
Maison Collawn:you go through the struggle and actually have that loyal support
Maison Collawn:of some con has to be someone that you can trust. Even if it's
Maison Collawn:a spiritual leader or community leader, it doesn't matter. You
Maison Collawn:need an advocate to get to the next step.
Saylor Cooper:That's very good advice as always having advocate
Saylor Cooper:and just know that you're not alone. Well, everybody, let's
Saylor Cooper:give it up for nesting. Episode 15 of Hope WIthout Sight, we're
Saylor Cooper:gonna have a good rest of time. And yeah, yeah, we have a brunch
Saylor Cooper:tomorrow. Let's see. We have some more recordings to do. We
Saylor Cooper:have salsa dancing, right. And Sunday, we have a boat trip.
Maison Collawn:Tyler, thanks for being here. You're a great
Maison Collawn:correspondent and able to provide interesting dialogue in
Maison Collawn:the conversation as well.
Tyler Evans:You're welcome. I appreciate it.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, let's enjoy time and quarter by yards and
Saylor Cooper:till Tuesday.
Maison Collawn:And don't forget, you can come the name of
Maison Collawn:the podcast, MCAnime, with Apple and Google and I'm on WW dot
Maison Collawn:NCMA podcast.com. I hope to see you there if you'd like my
Maison Collawn:correspondence. Thank you.
