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Meet a Women’s coach who turned her life around after years of disfunction and trauma.
About the Guest: Jenny is a teacher of 20 years. She is inspired to help caretakers be aware of their own self-care after a realization of how her own lack of self-care had put her on the wrong path. After a few taxing life events, years of self-separation, postpartum depression, and divorce, life directed her on the path of self-care and self-discovery. She uncovered her connection to happiness and inspiration through her morning routines and self-care embodiment. Jenny is now on the journey of guiding others to heal and reconnect with their dignified and highest selves through morning rituals and self-care.
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I am Saylor Cooper, Owner and host of Real Variety Radio as well as the Hope Without Sight Podcast. I am from the Houston, Texas area and am legally blind which is one of the main reasons why I am hosting this show surrounding this topic , to inspire others by letting them know that they can live their best life and reach their highest potential. I am beginning my journey in Entrepreneurship to overcome the challenges of making a living with a disability and to demonstrate that it indeed it is possible by putting in hard work! Of course I am not sure what is in store, but I am extremely excited for what is to come. My future goals include getting booked to speak on stages and write a collaborative book with my podcast guests.
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My name is Matthew Tyler Evans and I am from the Northeast Texas area. I am blind like Saylor is and we have the same retinal condition. I decided to join Saylor‘s podcast because I have a strong interest in teaming up with him and I think together, we can inspire the world with others with disabilities.
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Hello, everybody, welcome to another episode of
Hope Without Sight:episode 31. With your host Saylor Cooper,
Tyler Evans:and this is Tyler Evans.
Saylor Cooper:Yes, hello, we're pleased to welcome another
Saylor Cooper:successful female. And tomorrow's also International
Saylor Cooper:Women's Day. Happy International earlier National Woman's Day.
Saylor Cooper:She has turned her life from disarray to a perfect life all
Saylor Cooper:organised, and she is also helping others. She lives a life
Saylor Cooper:for a bliss, which is why this episode is titled, from disarray
Saylor Cooper:to a life of bliss. Please welcome Jenny Lee. How you
Saylor Cooper:doing, Jenny?
Jenny Lee:Thank you so much for having me. I am doing awesome.
Jenny Lee:Thank you, Saylor and Matthew for Tyler
Saylor Cooper:Evans. Yeah, yeah, it's
Tyler Evans:Yeah.
Jenny Lee:Awesome. I'm excited.
Saylor Cooper:I'm excited. So tell us about your life. How did
Saylor Cooper:you get to where you are today? Because it sounds like you lived
Saylor Cooper:quite a chaotic life before of trauma, divorce, and just
Saylor Cooper:disarray. What do you do to turn around?
Jenny Lee:I liked how you put this array. I never really
Jenny Lee:thought about it that way. And I think when you're in that, it
Jenny Lee:when you're within the store, you can't see out right? And so
Jenny Lee:it's like, Oh, that's really interesting. Your title is psych
Jenny Lee:Mm hmm, this inability to see a way out, like, you know, there's
Jenny Lee:no light at the end of the tunnel. And so that's what it
Jenny Lee:was for me. Because I was loving mostly. And it was trauma
Jenny Lee:response. Because of the way I was brought up. I grew up in a
Jenny Lee:very conservative environment of conservative cultures. And what
Jenny Lee:would be all right. When I was growing up, I was among the
Jenny Lee:Muslims, who are very conservative. And then I also
Jenny Lee:come from a Chinese family, who was very conservative, and very
Jenny Lee:strict as well, very strict, uptight. And I also went to
Jenny Lee:Catholic Church and Catholic schools. So there is a lot of
Jenny Lee:oppression, you know, of who I really am, who I was, at that
Jenny Lee:point, I felt I was always punished for expressing my
Jenny Lee:thoughts. And I was shamed most of the time for being who I am,
Jenny Lee:you know? Well, I stepped out of that environment at some point.
Jenny Lee:But I was still carrying, you know, all the energies of me not
Jenny Lee:being able to do what I loved, or I couldn't be who I was,
Jenny Lee:because because the subconscious fear that I'd be judged to feel
Jenny Lee:yeah, here.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, I hear ya.
Jenny Lee:Yeah. So there's a lot of fear. There's a lot of
Jenny Lee:fear around what I was doing, and, and the programming and the
Jenny Lee:conditioning, that was just going through this life. That
Jenny Lee:was mapped out for me by my parents by my environment, and
Jenny Lee:I, and I didn't know who I was. And that is not a good situation
Jenny Lee:to No, no, when you don't know who you are. You don't know what
Jenny Lee:you want to do in life. And I'm still healing from that,
Jenny Lee:honestly. Because sometimes. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I've
Jenny Lee:done a lot of healing throughout the years. And I could only do
Jenny Lee:that after I stepped out of the marriage that I was unhappy for
Jenny Lee:So many, like was about 10 years. But even then I stayed,
Jenny Lee:although I realised I was unhappy because I was worried
Jenny Lee:about what other people would say, right? Well. Yeah. And
Jenny Lee:finally, when things got really unbearable, because I was
Jenny Lee:depressed, I was very unhappy. I was not I did not have the
Jenny Lee:capacity to be available for my child that time. You know, he
Jenny Lee:was a toddler, and I was always exhausted and depleted. I did
Jenny Lee:not like my job. I didn't have any friends because my
Jenny Lee:relationships with everybody. Were just, you know, just bold
Jenny Lee:because I was unhappy. And at some point, that was the divorce
Jenny Lee:and that's how I stepped out of that environment that was
Jenny Lee:created for me. You know, who I wasn't at all. Never divorce was
Jenny Lee:the best thing. It happened. Thank you for that.
Saylor Cooper:Oh, And that that's what that's what it
Saylor Cooper:sounds like. Right? Yes. Because, uh, because I mean, I
Saylor Cooper:know a lot of people, you know, condemned divorce for a lot of
Saylor Cooper:reasons because of course, a marriage is designed for people
Saylor Cooper:to stay in a lifetime. But at the same time, I especially
Saylor Cooper:understand if it's absolutely completely unhealthy. It's
Saylor Cooper:damaging all aspects of your life. Sometimes it's just best
Saylor Cooper:to part ways. And that's what you got to do. And that's why
Saylor Cooper:that's why I also say, don't get nearly fast. Make sure you know,
Saylor Cooper:the posting that you're doing before you do. You know, I,
Jenny Lee:I agree. I agree with that. That I guess at that time
Jenny Lee:when I decided to get married, I was also in a place when okay,
Jenny Lee:I'm just going to do this because I think I am supposed to
Jenny Lee:do this, right without even questioning myself. If if this
Jenny Lee:is the right thing for me to do if this is what I really wanted.
Jenny Lee:And that's the thing. I never asked myself that why do I
Jenny Lee:really want? No, it's always like, Oh, well displease my
Jenny Lee:parents, oh, well, I look good. If I do this, right. It's all
Jenny Lee:really about outside opinion. And that's how I lived my life.
Jenny Lee:And that kind of created this world of lies that are all the,
Jenny Lee:you know, the opposite of who I really am. And that's definitely
Jenny Lee:what created the disarray. Like we said,
Saylor Cooper:you live based on the opinions of others, not very
Saylor Cooper:much.
Tyler Evans:Oh Ya
Saylor Cooper:lerAnd, and it sounds like the upbringing you
Saylor Cooper:had if, if you stepped down a line in any form, you are
Saylor Cooper:punished, right?
Jenny Lee:Oh, very much. Yeah. Like, like brutal punishment.
Jenny Lee:When I was in Catholic school, Catholic schools, actually, from
Jenny Lee:kindergarten to college, well, but like, you know, up until
Jenny Lee:high school, they The teachers are very abusive. They practice
Jenny Lee:corporal punishment. And my parents, do you No, good. No,
Jenny Lee:no, no emotional abuse. And outside of me, the conservative
Jenny Lee:Muslim community, like, you know, did a lot of shaming just
Jenny Lee:as much as the Catholic Church and my family. So it was just
Jenny Lee:like, oppression, oppression, and like, you know, at some
Jenny Lee:point, I, you know, like, I had to let go of what was truly me
Jenny Lee:to let go of my voice. And by the middle standard, which was,
Jenny Lee:you know, nothing, you know, that is irrelevant with who I
Jenny Lee:really am. And so, yeah, and that, and that's why, you know,
Jenny Lee:the life of trauma response, because I was always making the
Jenny Lee:wrong choice. Instead of listening to me, instead of
Jenny Lee:listening to what I really want. I was always making decisions,
Jenny Lee:you know, who to date based on, how would that look? Right? Oh,
Jenny Lee:like, you know, this guy has money, but he's an asshole. You
Jenny Lee:know, everybody, you know, like, everybody likes him. So, okay,
Jenny Lee:let's just stay in that abusive relationship anyway. Yeah, it's,
Jenny Lee:it's things like that, you know, or to school that I went to, you
Jenny Lee:know,
Saylor Cooper:so you knew you were making the wrong choices,
Saylor Cooper:even though others thought you were making the right ones.
Jenny Lee:That's the thing, though. When you've been in that
Jenny Lee:kind of society, especially growing up, you don't know
Jenny Lee:you're doing the wrong choice. The right choice is what people
Jenny Lee:tell you.
Saylor Cooper:Right?
Jenny Lee:Right. And if you get approval from the members of
Jenny Lee:society, then that's the right thing. That something that I
Jenny Lee:never was never taught, was connecting with myself and
Jenny Lee:asking myself what I really want to do. Right. And so, um, it's
Jenny Lee:wrong that way, but I didn't know better.
Saylor Cooper:Wow. Yes, it is. And so, so, so, you knew it was
Saylor Cooper:wrong in that and that's why you said enough is enough. You you
Saylor Cooper:decide to change course, and look at you now. Now, do you
Saylor Cooper:still like talk to your parents or any other?
Jenny Lee:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we were never really close
Jenny Lee:because we, we don't really relate and a lot of matters.
Jenny Lee:But, you know, it doesn't matter. You know, like I've done
Jenny Lee:a lot of forgiveness, a lot of letting go. And they wrote like
Jenny Lee:they raised me the way that they did is because They arranged
Jenny Lee:that way too. And they were raising me the best way that
Jenny Lee:they could. Right. So they were programming me to be a part of
Jenny Lee:the society so that I would be accepted by the society. Because
Jenny Lee:they Yeah, I completely understand that. And so now that
Jenny Lee:I am a mother, I it is my job to break the cycle. So, Mm hmm.
Saylor Cooper:And so you raise your kids?
Jenny Lee:Yes, absolutely. I have a son. He's eight year old.
Jenny Lee:And I'm doing everything that is the opposite of what my parents
Jenny Lee:who are raising his eight year old.
Saylor Cooper:He's, yes, he's what? You've got cut out.
Jenny Lee:Oh, he's eight.
Jenny Lee:Yeah, he's eight years old.
Saylor Cooper:Okay. I see. Yeah. Oh, so this was not too
Saylor Cooper:long ago when you divorced. Wow, you change course.
Jenny Lee:Yeah. Yeah. And that was the best thing changing
Jenny Lee:course. I mean, it was scary. It's always scary, right? When
Jenny Lee:you're in a transition place when you're on the bridge, to a
Jenny Lee:new phase of life to a new chapter. But I think at some
Jenny Lee:point, when you are in the wrong place, I trust that the universe
Jenny Lee:would do anything can to like kick you out of there. Like by
Jenny Lee:making things so uncomfortable for you that making things so
Jenny Lee:unhappy for you. And you just have no choice. But to exact
Jenny Lee:them out.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, and you did a great, and you did a great job
Saylor Cooper:by stepping out in that. Now look at you go you. I'm sure the
Saylor Cooper:morning rituals have helped you calm down and even helping
Saylor Cooper:others. So now your, your your life coach, right?
Jenny Lee:Yes, I am. Um, yeah, it's really Yeah. Yeah, I guess
Jenny Lee:you mentioned it. Well, with helping me with a lot of things.
Jenny Lee:One of them is definitely calming down, that the routines
Jenny Lee:are more a time that I allocate for myself, to nourish, and
Jenny Lee:connect with myself. And I do that by asking myself what is
Jenny Lee:fun at this moment. And so after, you know, all that life,
Jenny Lee:and you know, I was still, I still did not like my job. I was
Jenny Lee:still in this situation where I was unhappy because of the
Jenny Lee:energy, you know, that I carried with me from the previous life.
Saylor Cooper:Exactly.
Jenny Lee:Yeah. But I did ask myself, like, I cannot, how can
Jenny Lee:I get out of this cycle of unhappiness. And the next
Jenny Lee:morning, I just couldn't go back to sleep. And I thought, okay,
Jenny Lee:mornings, were always very heavy. For me. I did not like
Jenny Lee:waking up in the morning, because I did not like the life
Jenny Lee:that I was waking up to, you know? Yeah. And so I'm at that,
Jenny Lee:and also waking up to a job that you don't like. And that was
Jenny Lee:actually just a continuance of me not liking to wake up in the
Jenny Lee:morning for school, because school is very punishing. And so
Jenny Lee:that kind of continued with me not liking to wake up to my job.
Jenny Lee:But that morning, I was just like, Okay, let's just hear you
Jenny Lee:know, this question a little lighter. Yeah. And I played some
Jenny Lee:music. And I started dancing to it. And I felt this is really,
Jenny Lee:this is really nice. So the following morning, I thought,
Jenny Lee:okay, let's play the music again, and then dance to it. And
Jenny Lee:so because I thought that that would be a good activity for me
Jenny Lee:to do because it lightens up my mood. It makes me feel a
Jenny Lee:lighter, because moving my body made me feel exhilarated. And so
Jenny Lee:the following morning, I would wake up 10 minutes earlier,
Jenny Lee:because I want to have some time just to have fun. And then the,
Jenny Lee:and I had so much fun. So I wanted to have more of that. And
Jenny Lee:so I after a couple of weeks, I add five more minutes, and now
Jenny Lee:it's 15 minutes earlier. I would do that for the next couple of
Jenny Lee:weeks. And then I added five more minutes. So that's now
Jenny Lee:20-25 minutes. And then I was like, Oh, this is so much fun,
Jenny Lee:right? And, and there's a difference there. After I
Jenny Lee:practice the dancing and focusing on the fun and the joy
Jenny Lee:of my activity and being present, and you know, get
Jenny Lee:connected with what I'm doing and make me feel exhilarated and
Jenny Lee:rejuvenated, I would go toe to, I'm a teacher, I would go to
Jenny Lee:school, and my relationships with the students became so much
Jenny Lee:better. And before the work that I was doing, it was more like,
Jenny Lee:I'm gonna just do my job, just give me a paycheck. Let me go,
Jenny Lee:like, that was such a hamster wheel, right that I was living
Jenny Lee:in,
Saylor Cooper:you have to love what you do for a living. Cuz
Saylor Cooper:like, say, when you do it? It's not.
Jenny Lee:Yeah, exactly. But when you're unhappy, nothing
Jenny Lee:there makes you happy. Right? Because you're looking at the
Jenny Lee:life like I used to, I was looking at from I was looking at
Jenny Lee:it from a filter of unhappiness, depression, right? So my
Jenny Lee:relationship with the students at that point, you know, and
Jenny Lee:they, they also come to school needing love, that I could not
Jenny Lee:give, because I was unhappy and depleted myself. And so after
Jenny Lee:allocating that time of joy and happiness, in my mornings, and
Jenny Lee:nourishing my emotional needs, reconnecting with myself, I'm
Jenny Lee:after a few weeks, as i Everything is now better. And
Jenny Lee:right, and now I would start lesson planning. And the
Jenny Lee:question would be the question that I would ask myself in the
Jenny Lee:morning, how can I make this fun? Then, okay. And because of
Jenny Lee:that, like, I have more respect to what I was, right? And my
Jenny Lee:relationships with them got better. We could actually have
Jenny Lee:like, human, you know, conversation, not just like, do
Jenny Lee:your work and leave me alone? Like I used to? Do
Saylor Cooper:you get connected with your students?
Jenny Lee:Yes. So I got connected. But you know why?
Jenny Lee:Because I got connected with myself first. That's how I was
Jenny Lee:able to start building, you know, start building that
Jenny Lee:connection. And so, months went by, and I started adding more
Jenny Lee:minutes to my, you know, to my waking up. So that means waking
Jenny Lee:up like 10 minutes earlier, 15 minutes earlier than before,
Jenny Lee:because I started well, I started new challenges, like
Jenny Lee:challenging yoga poses, or challenging dancing steps. And,
Jenny Lee:or, you know, like, some physical challenges like, you
Jenny Lee:know, push ups, because I didn't used to be able to do that.
Jenny Lee:Right. And then I added juicing, meditation for cold shower,
Jenny Lee:like, you name it. And so all of those things, and now, they all
Jenny Lee:added up to like two hours. Actually, from the 10 minutes,
Jenny Lee:right, that's how I started that I just kind of kept adding five
Jenny Lee:minutes, five minutes and 10 minutes, and the focus, and
Jenny Lee:those activities, every time I choose it, every time I choose
Jenny Lee:them, it's always a question. Like, is this fun for me? Is it
Jenny Lee:something that I'm excited to wake up to? And yes, you know,
Jenny Lee:like, these are so much fun, that I'm actually eager to wake
Jenny Lee:up in the morning, so I can have this time, have fun. And after a
Jenny Lee:couple of years, I became a different person. I'm so much
Jenny Lee:happier. I show up so differently at work. And I have
Jenny Lee:friends who are amazing. We're family, and I'm a better mother
Jenny Lee:for my child because I'm more emotionally available and
Jenny Lee:physically available to write because before when I was always
Jenny Lee:tired, my son would want to like Oh, can you can we please read
Jenny Lee:this book? I'm tired. I can't do this right now. Or I want to
Jenny Lee:play this I want to play that. Can you just play by your you
Jenny Lee:know on your own? And it's like a lot of rejection right? Yeah,
Jenny Lee:we just hired and you felt bad after the fact I'm sure. Yeah,
Jenny Lee:right. And that was you know the difference and now I show up. I
Jenny Lee:am I can actually enjoy being a mother. I actually enjoy him.
Jenny Lee:You know being a child and all the positive brings
Saylor Cooper:that's great. Wow, wonderful not see anything
Saylor Cooper:So, yeah. And so now you're assuming you're a teacher, now
Saylor Cooper:you just teach others how to live a life of abundance and
Saylor Cooper:bliss, right?
Jenny Lee:That's what we're, that's what I would like my
Jenny Lee:students to learn. I hope, you know, at some point, because I
Jenny Lee:know that I'm different students come from different backgrounds,
Jenny Lee:and they have their challenges. But the way that I show up with
Jenny Lee:them, at least, you know, showing them that, when they
Jenny Lee:keep trying, when they keep learning, they're expanding. And
Jenny Lee:they can take so much more from the world when they keep
Jenny Lee:stretching. Right. And that's always what I'm encouraging them
Jenny Lee:to do. Because yeah, if you keep stretching, if you allow
Jenny Lee:yourself to grow, you're receiving more. And I mean,
Jenny Lee:like, you know, the way the language that we speak, living
Jenny Lee:in abundance and bliss, and I think it's just like all too
Jenny Lee:cool for these 11th graders. Kids that I'm teaching
Saylor Cooper:you to teach high school. Wow.
Jenny Lee:Yeah, I do. Okay, I'll be right back. Yes, I do
Jenny Lee:teach high schoolers.
Saylor Cooper:I imagine that's hard during that age, but
Jenny Lee:no, it's not. No, not really. I mean, it used to be
Jenny Lee:hard. But now that I think with me, I'm growing emotionally, my
Jenny Lee:capacity has grown to my capacity to have a healthy
Jenny Lee:relationship. And it is, because I had a better relationship with
Jenny Lee:myself, I'm able to have better relationships with my students.
Jenny Lee:And that is really the base of the work when I have a better
Jenny Lee:relationship with them. They're so much more receptive. Oh,
Jenny Lee:great. And teaching is not so hard anymore. And so honestly,
Jenny Lee:like, I still have the same job. From years ago, when I was
Jenny Lee:depressed.
Saylor Cooper:It's easier.
Jenny Lee:It's easier. It's not just easier. It's fun. It's your
Jenny Lee:right, because I actually enjoy my students.
Saylor Cooper:Wonderful one. Wow. Awesome. So I want to touch
Saylor Cooper:on a freebie. tell our listeners, what is your freebie
Saylor Cooper:you're offering?
Jenny Lee:Oh, yeah.
Saylor Cooper:Ill put it in, I have it. It's an it's an it's
Saylor Cooper:gonna be in the show notes as well.
Jenny Lee:Hmm. Yeah, that's awesome. So I give us a free 30
Jenny Lee:minute coaching on how starting tomorrow, you should form or
Jenny Lee:habit your morning habits, like exploring, you know, getting in
Jenny Lee:touch with yourself listening to yourself. And then by tomorrow,
Jenny Lee:you can start nothing big. Like I don't, I don't agree with that
Jenny Lee:approach of wake up two hours early in the morning, go to the
Jenny Lee:gym. It's like, no, that's not going to work with anybody. I
Jenny Lee:mean, not with me at least. Right? I like to I like an
Jenny Lee:approach that is gentle, and kind to yourself. And the
Jenny Lee:purpose is for you to create positive association between the
Jenny Lee:new habit and your mind and your body. Right? Because when it's
Jenny Lee:easy and simple, it's so much easier for you to wake up for
Jenny Lee:it. And so that's what we will explore during the coaching and
Jenny Lee:it's free. So, yeah, sign up.
Saylor Cooper:Oh, yeah, definitely sign up. And do you
Saylor Cooper:have any programmes beyond that, that, like our guests can sign
Saylor Cooper:up and pay for and I can even help you with promoting that as
Saylor Cooper:well.
Jenny Lee:Oh, that is so cool. I'll thank you so much for
Jenny Lee:asking that. Yes, I do have a one on one coaching with me,
Jenny Lee:which is it's an eight week programme. And we meet twice a
Jenny Lee:week so that we could keep on monitoring your progress. And
Jenny Lee:I'll be there to be your accountability partner and
Jenny Lee:making sure that you are in touch with yourself and your
Jenny Lee:spirit and your inspiration while you're practising this. So
Jenny Lee:yeah, that's what I do.
Saylor Cooper:Beautiful. And I imagine you can you'll get more
Saylor Cooper:details after you provide The freebie, which is great.
Jenny Lee:Yes, yes, absolutely.
Saylor Cooper:All right. Well,
Saylor Cooper:if you don't, I believe that's all the questions I have. I
Saylor Cooper:believe that you're living, great, abundant life changing a
Saylor Cooper:world which we all need, especially during times. And so.
Saylor Cooper:So Tyler, do you have any questions for I guess?
Tyler Evans:Yeah. So does your son have a good father figure in
Tyler Evans:his life now? Compared to what maybe he had before?
Jenny Lee:Oh, well, um, he definitely has a much healthier
Jenny Lee:environment. Now. He has two homes, right. His dad is
Jenny Lee:probably happier without me. I mean, surely, actually, because
Jenny Lee:we're definitely now happier, much happier without each other.
Jenny Lee:Right? Like, and so he doesn't grow out environment where both
Jenny Lee:of us are always having tension, like the way it used to. He has
Jenny Lee:two birthday parties two Christmases at my house. So his
Jenny Lee:and two sets of friends. Right at his dad's neighbourhoods and
Jenny Lee:at mine, like, wow, he has like double everything. Double
Jenny Lee:Happiness. So he basically, he probably stays with you on the
Jenny Lee:weekend and him on during the week or vice versa. Yeah, and
Jenny Lee:holidays. Yeah. And so, like, I am so much more fun now. Because
Jenny Lee:I'm so much more available. Right. And, as to father figure,
Jenny Lee:um, you know, what, I am sure that his father is doing the
Jenny Lee:best that he can. And also, you know, with me, because I have
Jenny Lee:learned what I learned from the way that I was raised, I now
Jenny Lee:know, to allow him to be himself, and grow to be the
Jenny Lee:great person that he can be rather than me controlling him,
Jenny Lee:you know, according to some stupid societal standard. Oh,
Jenny Lee:eah. Right. Yeah.
Jenny Lee:And so yeah, that's what I learned about parenting.
Tyler Evans:Good deal.
Saylor Cooper:It's nice for, you know, parents to be
Saylor Cooper:together. But at the same time, we all realise that, in certain
Saylor Cooper:circumstances, it's best that parents are apart. And as long
Saylor Cooper:as your son has both parents in his life, that's what matters.
Jenny Lee:Yes, that's true. He is very well loved. And he's,
Jenny Lee:he's a great kid, very happy. And I want him to, you know,
Jenny Lee:stay happy, of course, that I should. And I want to be able to
Jenny Lee:be the kind of parent that can continuously provide that
Jenny Lee:healthy environment for him to thrive. Right. And I won't be
Jenny Lee:able to do that when I'm not taking care of myself when I'm
Jenny Lee:tired. So this is also a message to all the parents out there,
Jenny Lee:right. prioritise your well being, because that is how
Jenny Lee:you're going to provide a healthy environment for your
Jenny Lee:children to grow up. Right? When when you're taken care of, and
Jenny Lee:well nourished. Everything is good. You're raising your child
Jenny Lee:from a place of happiness and love and joy. You have so much
Jenny Lee:more love to give, right?
Saylor Cooper:Oh, yeah, that's for sure.
Tyler Evans:Oh, yes, definitely.
Saylor Cooper:Well, I'm, if nothing else, I'd say let's wrap
Saylor Cooper:up with our customary ending, should we? What advice would you
Saylor Cooper:give to anybody that struggling in life? And was having
Saylor Cooper:difficulty finding bliss?
Saylor Cooper:Because I didn't hear your question. So the question gets a
Saylor Cooper:question, what advice would you give to a buddy who's struggling
Saylor Cooper:in life and doesn't know where to turn? And you hoped to find
Saylor Cooper:bliss, like you
Jenny Lee:get out of your routine, that the one that you
Jenny Lee:have now and spend more time being alone with yourself?
Saylor Cooper:Oh, yeah.
Jenny Lee:So say you always drive, you know, at the same
Jenny Lee:route work. What about trying to take a different route this
Jenny Lee:time? Right. And take a break from the routine that you
Jenny Lee:usually have, try something new, or go out on a vacation
Jenny Lee:sometimes and be inspired and find yourself in a place that
Jenny Lee:you've never travelled before? That That frees you from the
Jenny Lee:habits that that usually have, you know, when I mean, and
Jenny Lee:actually, that's how I found myself like, to through
Jenny Lee:travelling. I mean, that's a completely different subject.
Jenny Lee:But I think the biggest thing is, like how I found my way, you
Jenny Lee:know, to who I am now is to step out of my usual habits. Lino
Jenny Lee:that got what I used to when I got used to depression, and, you
Jenny Lee:know, everything that sad and unpleasant. And I just played
Jenny Lee:the music, like, in that morning, you know, that usually,
Jenny Lee:that used to feel hard. All I did was playing music. And it
Jenny Lee:was actually hard for me to do that. It's like, oh, I just want
Jenny Lee:silence. Right, because it's the morning, but then like that. It
Jenny Lee:was it was killing me at some point, you know, and I just
Jenny Lee:intuitively played the music. This is actually nice. Yeah. You
Jenny Lee:know what I mean? And so do something different step out of
Jenny Lee:your habits. And see, and and find your way to that. And now
Jenny Lee:the bit now, the bigger thing is me spending more time with
Jenny Lee:myself. Because a lot of us just distract ourselves with a lot of
Jenny Lee:busyness that is unintentional. It's unintentional. You don't
Jenny Lee:need to get caught up in all that mess. No. Yeah, no. And so
Jenny Lee:when you spend more time with yourself, you actually give
Jenny Lee:yourself space to grow. To get connected with you and you have
Jenny Lee:more time to listen to yourself. What really makes you happy.
Jenny Lee:What what do you really want? I never did that. So yeah, and
Jenny Lee:things changed when I spent more time with myself and focusing on
Jenny Lee:what's fun for me.
Saylor Cooper:Right. Great, wonderful.
Saylor Cooper:Good advice there. Jenny. You've been such an inspiration on the
Saylor Cooper:show changing and helping others give up Jenny Lee. Everybody,
Saylor Cooper:stay blessed and live a life full of bliss.
