Attune To Prosperity with Judy Van Niekerk

Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Hope Without Sight with your host Saylor Cooper and

Tyler Evans.

That's right. My great co host. He is my right hand guy. Soon it's gonna be one of my assistants, which is great. Yes, this is Episode 28, almost a thirty episodes. Awesome. Okay, and this episode title is going to be attuned to prosperity. Thanks to Angel Tassie, a media specialist who owns a Facebook group, I believe that's when I found this person. She is a one of the best entrepreneur entrepreneurs out there. She knows how to live a life of abundance, and life was bliss, even though there have been challenges in her life. And overall, she just knows how to make you feel balanced and feel good. And be in tuned and let you know what your purpose is. Please welcome my good friend, Judy Van Niekerk, Judy, how you doing this morning?

Really good. Thank you so much for that amazing introduction. And thank you for the opportunity to be here with you said, I really appreciate it. Thank you,

that

You bet, I read your bio. And it's very compelling. You, you teach people how to live life with purpose, you are who you are. Because at the age of 15, you have a host of a number of extraordinary transcendent supernatural experiences. And I know I and India you overcome a lot of adversity, including some trauma in your in your childhood. And of course, you escaped out of that in your early 20s. First, tell me more about those transcendent supernatural experiences like describe it more to us.

It was a pivotal point in my life, that's for sure. And it put me my life onto a trajectory that was completely and utterly unpredictable. So up until that point, I had been living, tortured and abused since I was about three years old locked up. And it was a horrendous experience living as a slave and just I felt like meat. And I was living just because my heart was beating. That was it. And after a particularly bad 10 hours of torture, and abuse and hell, I recall walking into the bathroom and this was in Dublin, Ireland. Our goal is at seven in the morning. It was a November morning so it was gray and I think it was drizzling and dull. And I walked into the bathroom and I walked over to the mirror and I will I see I recall looking in the mirror and almost like for the first time actually seeing myself. No, no I'm sure. I saw myself plenty before that. But it was the first time I actually recall actually seeing myself and I was looking in the mirror but not looking at my physical face. My reflection which was bruised and bloodied and I had like a really an old sin torn threadbare and pale blue nightie on but seeing beyond all of that and I was looking into my eyes and as I looked deeper into my eyes that was almost like my arm was reaching down through my our eyes, and it clutched something in my solar plexus and for many years after that, I called that my something I knew it was something I didn't have the language. At that time I had been locked up I was uneducated on socialized so I called it my something my grabbed it. grabbed it I felt like I was transcended out of my body and next thing I was allied again literally outside, outside with the trees and the birds and I remember the sensation of feeling oneness with everything I was like just there was no separation. Feeling one with the trees one with the rain one with the with the birds one with grass, I could hear grass cutting in the distance and I smelt it and one with the smell when with everything. And the next thing I'm I've felt was a sensation that was so extraordinary, so powerful, so all consuming the The best way I could ever relay that, in words is that it felt like 1000 cashmere blankets been wrapped around me. It was so deep and profound. I didn't know what it was, until it dawned on me that this was love. Not any ordinary love, but the most exquisite, extraordinary divine love. And I was wrapped in this wrapped up and completely enveloped in this feeling of love.

Wow. So growing up, what I'm getting here something that you provide a lot of details. Growing up, since you were just locked up and tortured and slave, you never even knew what love was you. You didn't even you didn't know who you were as yourself, you. You didn't know what the Lord was. And in an age 17, or whatever you said, I finally realized that yourself.

Yeah. And then, at that moment, as I realized what it was, I remember looking at and seeing myself standing in front of the mirror. And I'm the feeling I got in that moment, as I saw myself was healing. I was healed from everything. For everything that had happened, everything what was happening, everything that was to happen still, it was a complete, multi dimensional healing in that moment, where not in the linear perspective of time, but in the eternal quantum X. perspective of time, I was healed.

So you're healed. Spiritually, naturally, just the spirit,

emotionally split ends virtually. Never, you're never unhealed. Spiritually, you're always whole.

You're always totally Yeah, yeah, emotionally, but emotionally, I guess the spirit from above, healed you,

the divine,

the divine,

me and source healed, I healed to that experience. And that moment, what, what life is and the truth about life, and that we are eternal beings, and we are from the universe, we are one with everything. And I could see the infinite possibilities that existed, and how my life could pan out. And it was almost like I planted three seeds in that moment of love. Prosperity at the time, I called it luxury because I didn't have the word prosperity. But what I call now prosperity, and adventure, they were like the three seeds that I planted, that was of all the infinite possibilities that I could have in my life. That was what I chose in that moment. And when I came back into my body, I remember two things. As I walked out in the bathroom, the first thing was this, this, having this something holding this something which I later can now articulate as my soul, my higher self, my true being my infinite being self. I was holding on to this and I remember walking out the bathrooms again, you could hurt my mortal body. You can do whatever you like to this body, but nothing and no one can ever touch my soul. My something that was my guiding. That was my guide. That was my go to that was my connection from there on. And that was extraordinary. Because in that moment, I went from being feeling like dead meat to feeling like someone. And the other thing that I thought as I walked out of the bathroom, which is unusual, considering the context of the deeply spiritual experience I just had was that as I walked out, I knew that I would escape I had no doubt, whatsoever.

Wow,

I didn't care about the timing, because I had just had this transcendental experience that the I understood in that moment, although would not have been able to articulate it. But I understood in that moment that the truth about time is not linear. So I wasn't concerned about how when I would escape, I just knew I would escape. I also knew that when I escaped, I would live a life of love, prosperity and adventure and I knew that I would get a job very well. I'm uneducated. I didn't know any I could hardly read or write. Get a job as in merchant bank. Pick stock broking oil and gas trading. And there was something I was shipping. I had no idea what any of them was. I didn't know what a merchant bank was. I didn't know what stock broking was, I didn't know what does it mean oil and gas. I mean, all I knew about oil was it's in the radiators to give us eat. That's all I knew.

You will not expose to the world.

No, I no idea. But yet they were the things that I knew working. I and I experienced no matter what was going on, in my environment and the outside world. I was so connected to my something and I was living a life of joy and bliss.

Wow. I mean, cuz you you make me kind of cry now. Because like everybody has been through all times. I mean, life on Earth is not always blissful, blissful, but you don't have any it is. And regardless, you prove that regardless of anybody's circumstances you can pull out because I mean, I've certainly been through hard times that in my family as to I know, Tyler, you have to but certainly not as hard as not as hard as you have. And you know, we can all we can all choose our own destiny.

That's right. So what were you raised in a particular faith or anything like that?

No.

Okay. So basically, what you experienced was just out of the blue, it just happened, because there was supernatural for you.

Yes. yeah

Oh, great

An interesting because somebody that meant somebody mentioned recently on a post, and I commented on it and was when I got I got really clear about this is that we can all have those experiences, we all have the capacity of having those experiences. And I for me, and this is how I see it having happened, we can it to connection to our connection to the divine within to source, we can experience the most profound mystical experiences, but it's getting to, it's it's about disentangling ourselves to all the distractions and the addictions that we have. And the codependency is we have in this three dimensional paradigm world that we live in, when we disentangle from that and step into our authentic true self, and be in that place and surrender to the unknown. We can, we will experience amazing experiences, the extent to which you do that will be will reflect the extent of the mystical experience you have for me in that moment. Now, I as you can imagine, I wasn't socialized, I didn't have all of the things going on. I was alone most of the time for all those years. So, for me, there was a lot to detach from all I had torture and, and, and nothing else, and I was worn down. And I completely had surrendered completely. And I was so connected to source without realizing it, that I had that profound experience.

Wow.

And so much in the glorious present moment.

And if you don't mind me asking, like, what caused you to be like in that type of, you know, just terrible upbringing? And secondly, did you ever thought about just giving up and just calling it quits? Especially?

Many times, trust me. I tried to escape many times. But I couldn't. So. So you were born into slavery, basically. Sorry. You were born into slavery, right? I was about from when I was about three years old or so. Okay, so you were put into slavery at three. Okay. It took another six years after that experience for me to escape. Yeah. But during that six years, there was still torture going on still abuse and all that sort of stuff. So But during those six years, I I continue to experience the torture, but I, I was so connected to my something that it could not break me it could not bring me down, it could not make me feel anything but bliss and joy and happiness. So one of the ways in which humanity has been conditioned, is we are conditioned to experience happiness conditionally on what is going on in our environment, which is transient, which is completely dependent on things that happen outside of us, we have no control. But when you take back control in your, in your sovereignty, when you when you lose the addiction, and the attachments, to all of the things that are outside of us. And we step into our autonomous, autonomous sovereignty, we find joy and bliss for just being who we are, through our infinite being. And nothing in our environment can shift that or change or influence.

In other words, you're talking about joy, not happiness, because happiness is based on circumstance. It's based on, you know, oh, if it's good, you know, it's happy. But joy is where it doesn't matter, the circumstances, you can still experience peace, even in the bad circumstances. Yeah. And that's what I believe as a Christian. That's what I believe that joy is not circumstantial. It's not based on circumstances based on the fact that we have someone that we can rely on.

Yeah. Yeah.

And I believe it's Jesus. Spirit.

Yeah, absolutely. Totally. You know, the week we can call it many different things, but it's all the same thing.

Right?

Eternal Love. It's truth. It's authentic. It's real.

You're saying to us, we're eternal beings?

Yeah,

just what you said. And it's, and I believe that too. I believe everyone's gonna turn into somewhere, you know, I believe.

So we're just on this earth temporarily. And you know,

yep.

When times get tough, we just had to focus, like you said, On no spirit to help you guys.

In other words, focus on good like true love, not conditional love, basically,

which is based on situations which are immoral. But that is where we also get to quote miracles, right? Well, we call them miracles in this 3d world that we live in. But when we're when we're in our infinite being, when we're in the authentic truth of who we are. They're like normal, you know, miracles are just normal, right? But in the 3d world, we call the miracles. And I have been, I have experienced that over and over again. Because when I had that idea, that knowing no idea. As I walked out the bathroom, I thought what I was gonna do when I escaped, I was able to prepare on some levels in the in the interim, and in the interim, I tried to escape a couple of times, and eventually when I did, I escaped in the middle of the night, and I had to leave the country. So I found myself then in London, right, I got my hands on money. It was a it was a Friday night. Again, it was a November, it was raining, it was miserable. And I will never forget that flight over to Ireland, we flew what felt so close to the full moon. And I landed, and I knew no one I had nothing. I had like an old tattered bag of old tattered clothes, a copy of Wuthering Heights being a romantic and painting I had done with my cat. That was all I had it to my name within a week.

from London, to Ireland, right,

Dublin, Dublin, to London,

Dublin to Okay,

so with, but within a week, I had two job offers. One as a trading account in an oil and gas trading floor. And the other one was a position. I can't remember what it was in a shipping company. Obviously, I took the job as a trading counter on oil and gas trading for earning almost six figures. And this was back in the early 90s.

And you had I'm sure you had no idea how to do that job because you didn't even know what account it was at the time, right?

Absolutely. I had no idea how to turn on the computer.

So well did them. How did you adapt? Since you didn't know the world? How did you

what I know now what I learned from that experience that I had when I was about 15 is that we are all knowing we have we are one with the universe. So there's three foundational concepts that that form the foundation of my understanding of life as humans is one we are one with the universe we are one with at all, we are one with divine. And as such, we have knowledge, we have an all knowing we have access to all the information that ever existed on this planet and beyond. So we can download any information we want very much like Trinity in the matrix, right, we can do that we have the ability to download information, and to have a knowing and when you're guided by that knowing you will never be misguided. And that's how I knew. Because that's how that's all I knew. I didn't know about living in the ego, I didn't know about living according to the perception, perceptions, the judgments that they what's right, and what's wrong, and all those things that we have within the construct of, of this 3d matrix. I didn't know any of that. And I didn't have any of the typical beliefs that children and young people and young adults get when they are going to school. And they're mixing with children, and they got teachers and other guardians, and parents and all these sort of things. I didn't have any of that. So all I knew was the power to access infinite knowledge. And I did, and I've come then I've taken that a step further. And the other thing that I've learned how I navigated challenges, because inevitably, there were challenges. And every time that I experienced a challenge my go to was not about putting myself down or looking outside of me, it was about reconnecting back to source back to my Divine within back to my higher self. And I the solutions were always there. And this is what I say to people, we are conditioned, when things are hard, or, or whatever leaves it life is hard, or you got to work hard for money and all these things, people then start to look more outside and the more outside and distance themselves more and more and more, creating more separation, and that is the source of all suffering in our society.

Wait, can you repeat that again, because I want to make sure that I understand that clearly. The separation of what causes

when things are hard, or when we experience a challenge or we experience an obstacle or when there's a curveball thrown in our way in life, what we do is rather than taking that as feedback from the our higher self, our soul, the divine, whoever would is mother nature universe, whoever it is that we connect to, rather than taking that feedback that we are wise to now come back home to ourselves, reconnect to our authentic self and as humanity to work hard to look more outside of ourselves is to work, try harder, go faster, change strategy, change jobs, change relationships, change our house, change our car, your whatever it is, we're always addicted to looking outside of ourselves, which is distancing ourselves ever further and further and further and further away from our divinity, from our authentic self, from our souls from Christ from God, however you want to call it with that's what is the source of all human suffering,

you should always look on the inside of yourself and know who you are to follow your path.

Right. I also believe human suffering is also the result of, you know, sim, because of what we've done to, you know, because like, there's times when we do things wrong, and we have to suffer consequences for that, too. So sometimes suffering becomes our own fault, you know, but other times, it's not our own fault. You know what I mean?

Yeah, but I think, I think no matter what, and if when we sin, so to speak, and I do Tyler, completely understanding what you're saying. But when we sin, again, that is evidence that we are separate from ourselves, because our higher self, our divinity within will only ever be. And only ever be aware of what is for our highest good and all highest good is going to walk. So when we do something that is sin in society, if we can take that as feedback that we are separate from ourselves and take that journey back to ourselves, then you will there won't be a drive for that there won't be those things happening. Does that make sense?

Makes sense? Yeah.

But it conversely, though, is the other side of the story if somebody does something to you, is how you navigate that.

No, right?

Right. So for so for example, hanging navigate that is if somebody has wronged you, and it goes against the physical laws of society, it is appropriate to do something about that. Right? So somebody breaks into your house and and steals your TV. You report it to the cops, right?

Oh, yeah.

But there's a there's a spiritual way of addressing that as well. There's a soul way of addressing that as well. So you can choose in that moment to be a victim to it, or you can rise above it and and see the see the, the the experience what does that mean? Where's the love in that experience? How do I how does this evolve me? How does this take me to higher dimensions of my being?

Yeah go that I like that because you saying your bio what I can offer your listeners, when you understand the alchemy and actionable tips on attuning to prosperity and time, energy and emotions, it opens the energetic frequency of the heart it becomes clear why some of your soul desires in the past was written the way it was understanding the blocks holding you back the successes in relationships, divinity, you learn and desire to collapse time between cause and effect to create miracles in your life.

Yeah, it is it is the one thing that is my number one, and that is love. Everything is love.

Yeah.

Anything that is not love i i work to loving it. And I think this is part of the what opens the portal, a heart portal, which is the gateway to our higher self, the gateway to the Divine is to our heart and of our hardest is closed down or carrying anything that is not love, it will block that portal. So we are wise to look at things in our life that we can't love. And look at ways in which we can love it. transmute it, to love alchemize it to love and you will experience more and more expansion of your heart. More more love in your life, more greatness, more opportunities, more synchronicities. And that's where your life starts to become in flow become inner peace. And as Tyler was saying, joy, and what else is there in life but that?

Yeah, because God gave us three things. Faith help and love and of course in the Bible. I'm being preachy. Now. Tyler Yeah. Look who's talking. The Bible says add the greatest of all is love.

That's right. And there's even a song that was written by Alan Jackson whenever he talked about 911. And he said the same line. And the main chorus of it was really cool. It was where were you in the world? Stop turning his name in that song.

I don't know.

Sounds amazing.

Yeah, he's a country singer. And he talked about 911 like World War Two you that day? You know? Yeah, whatever. 911 occurred?

September 11. Yeah. Yep. And your bio says you're meant to have it all. You're here to live an extraordinary life, legacy, impact and mastery and be the most extraordinary version of yourself. I can't agree more with that statement.

That's right.

Yeah, we are. We are here to be the We Are the individualized physical manifestation of the universe. We're meant to have. We are here to have an A we are there's our souls projection, having a 3d experience.

That's right inside to give you some tech, some tech feedback, your zoom is cutting out here now.

I know I saw that. I'm really sorry. So I don't know why that is happening. Normally at this crystal clear

it maybe it can be the internet. I don't know. I mean, we all have them. But yeah.

But yeah, over the past 20 years, you've built and sold multimillion dollar businesses in many categories, including starting a first ever online coaching business in 2000. You've also studied and researched human potential and been on a journey on Ascension and conscious awareness for the past 20 years. It's it's been my understanding of human behavior and spirituality. That has not only allowed me to create massive, massive successful pioneer businesses but overcome of extraordinary Challenge is being locked up and abused throughout my childhood.

Yeah, I'm sorry if I'm sorry if I'm winging it kind of strange because I use a screen reader. That's how I'm reading it because I'm blind and what your assistant sent you. It does have quite a bit of graphics. So it might be redundant. Might read kinda funny, but I'm doing I'm doing my best.

So I think you're doing extraordinary. Well, I think it's exquisite. What you did is perfect. What you're saying.

Oh, yeah,

yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what it says. So, yes. Yeah.

And I see here you have three key messages. There is no more, there is no more or challenge. You are not greater than having a vision. Feel your miracle pelvis. Will you create?

Oh, oh, my God. This is I liked this, Judy. Because Tyler, let's, let's share our story ready? ere not almost have the same story. Except with brothers from another mother.

That's right.

We were born two years apart.

Three months premature, and we're not expected to survive. And here we are miracles. And we are crushing challenges in living life full of abundance. Right. That's right.

That's right.

That's amazing. That is so good. It's so freakin awesome, isn't it?

It really is like, sometimes life is just amazing. It really is. Like that we can get up every day. Is A Miracle every second miracle.

Yeah,

it really is.

Experience experienced that the heat of the skin, the wind on our face, and the sea. You know, it's extraordinary. So

So Judy. Fast forward, you have a present. Now I've I've read about your past past 20 years. What are you doing now in Playa Del Carmen? What projects are you working on now? And what were the future goals?

So now I'm, I'm finishing off my PhD, which is all about how we are anatomically designed to create minute miracles. It is not so it's not a mystical thing. It's we are anatomically designed for mystical for miracles. I'm doing that, and I work with I've got various masterminds that work with people, too, as a conduit for them to connect in with their inner divine with their high infinite being with their higher self. That's what I do. Because I truly believe every man, woman and child deserves love, to be loved to feel love, and to express love.

That's you. I can't agree more. Yeah. And we don't. And I don't. I don't like the emotions of, you know, anger and all that it's not healthy. I mean, especially whenever you get in those environments. You have to know when to get yourself out.

Yeah, absolutely. We do not we do not have to entangle with them. We do not have to stay with them. We do not have to own them. We do not have to engage. We have sovereign free will.

Yes, we do. Yes, we do.

There you Go.

And so have you ever done. Have you ever been a speaker? Have you? Have you gotten on stages paid speaking gigs? Have you done a TEDx show? Any of you that

I've done a lot of talking before COVID? I did a lot in the States. I did live in Europe. And since then, I haven't actually I haven't gone back out there. I've not done a TED talk yet, either. I think I should put it on my bucket list. Yeah, so I haven't actually I have planned to get back into speaking on stages again this year.

And also do you have do you have any books you have written that you could share with us because I can indeed help you promote them as well?

That'd be amazing. I the only book I really have is because one of my businesses is a trading business. I've got a forex trading business which myself and my husband work on. I've got a book about trading and that's all I've done so far. I will have other books but the your listeners are very welcome to do I've created a free quiz to see how attune to prosperity you are because I in my research. What I haven't realized is that

Oh, I lost you.

Sorry, I've got this free quiz that your listeners are willing of Welcome to do which, which allows them to see how attuned to prosperity they are. Because depending on how entangled you are on the on the vibrations of anger, or grief, or resentment, or shame or guilt, that has a direct impact on your ability to, to have prosperity in all areas of life, not just financially, yes, yes, for sure. For sure. So this quiz, it's like I've been told it's almost like as accurate as a as an astrology reading. And it will give you what is blocking you what what you could do is the next step to release yourself just that little bit more. And often, it's just a tweak, one tweak, it could be just one shift, and it opens up so much.

Yeah, and I think us, I think I saw it in an email your assistant sent me because I mean, of course, she booked the Calendly link. And I did put some questions in there. Like, do you have affiliate programs? Anything I could promote? And I think I think I saw the quiz in that email way out, I'll definitely check it out for sure. I, I can't agree with you more yet to really just be in tune to what's going on around you to only go further.

No, we don't.

And, yeah, the one thing that one thing I have learned and if I could leave your listeners with this, how I understand things is that our inner authentic being in our authentic state of being in our infinite being, we will only ever experience that which is for our highest good. And when it's for our highest good, it's for the highest good of all, make no mistake about that, because it will never direct you to do something that's sinful, or harmful in any way. It only is for the highest good of all. And when you're following that, and you are feeling those feelings and emotions, so you feeling joy, you're feeling happy, feeling grateful and all that. But then when something creeps in like sadness, like it's okay, you can be happy, sad, you can be joyful, but have a moment of sadness, you know, it's okay. It is okay. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with us. It's perfectly like the peaks and troughs of a frequency wave. That's and you will find if you sit with the sadness, it will go it will flow away. But when we are sitting in fear, or we're experiencing stress, or worry or anxiety, they don't fade away. They amplify. Oh, yeah. Ours, they are not ours, they are an energy we've taken on that has attached itself to our ego. Think about it like that. There's just attached to our ego. It's not our authentic self. It is not true. It's an it's, it's, it's almost like it's an illusion, it's a lie. So the in our sovereignty in our free world, we can be aware when we are experiencing a guilt or a self doubt, or putting ourselves down in some way, or shaming ourselves in some way we can when we're aware of those thoughts, we have full sovereignty to say, go away. That's not mine never was not now not ever go away. We can dismiss it. It means nothing. We have the freewill capacity to do that we do not have to entangle with it.

That's right. We don't have those. We don't want worry and anxiety to know, shall we say? Take control over us or have the victory, so to speak.

So have you back and just take it back quickly to that experience I had when I was 15. When you are in your infinite being you are always careful, no matter what. No matter what. You're always careful. And in that moment, I was careful with the divine in that moment of complete surrender. I had nothing left I I begged for my heart to stop beating every night I went to sleep. I had nothing left. But the Divine Source God whatever you want to call it came through for me and gave me strength to move on.

And your Infinite Being You mean the spirit your spiritual spirits that God within Jesus Christ.

We have so many ways of saying the same thing.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Awesome.

And Ivan Well, I want to I want to read a little more whatever I've said about you and of course was was will say at last, what others have said about your work. Let's see here. Judy is making a massive difference in the world today, bringing heart and wisdom out into the world as Albert Einstein said, If simply exemplification is the world's greatest teacher, Judy, exemplifies what is possible for all human beings. Oh, that is very true.

Thank you so much. I appreciate that. And

I've,

I've been, I've, you know, I can relate to you. Because as I just started this entrepreneurship journey last year, I'm not gonna lie, I've been excited. But at the same time, I'm uncertain, because it's my very first time to do something this extraordinary, I've never ran a business before. And, of course, I've been having a little bit of a not so much business, financial struggles, but you know, personal financial struggles, you know, you know, paying bills and stuff, because, of course, you know, business doesn't make money until you are making money in this in the startup phases are complete, which we're still in it right now. That, you know, the same time I've, I've been focusing a lot of, on a lot of the Spiritual healing as well. To help me adapt. And, Tyler, if you want to share your spiritual story, go ahead. I know what you want to talk about. Take it away. So

Oh, yeah.

So yeah. You know, like, sailor, you know, I wasn't expected to survive. But I did. You know, I was three months premature. And my lungs actually collapsed, because they were really small. Yeah, because I was super small. And I have a twin brother, also. And we were both born blind, but his eyes reversed. Whereas mine didn't. But I had surgeries by the same doctor that sailor saw in Detroit, Michigan, and the fact that I'm living, you know, I give God all the glory and the price for that. That's what I give. Yeah. And the fact that I can at least see light and dark. There's also a price that I give them in the fact that I'm alive and doing well. There's also a price. So yeah, that's pretty much kind of my short story in the nutshell.

That's pretty awesome.

Yeah. And your story is amazing as well, Judy.

Yeah. I mean, you proven that anybody can reach your highest potential, regardless of their circumstances. You just set to figure out what, what gifts you have and what abilities you have.

What makes right what brings you joy? What brings you joy?

That's right. Amen.

Amen. Well, I mean, Tyler, if you have nothing else for Judy, which I don't believe I have it. And of course, Judy, if you want to ask questions, you can but if, if not, do you want to do our customary ending?

Yes, we can.

So but first, do you have anything do you have? Does anybody have anything?

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No, I'm complete.

All right. Okay,

so So what advice would you give to people who feel they don't have hope?

Hope is, isn't is something that we have been conditioned to rely on? It is, you're giving your power away. When we step back into the truth of who we are, we realize that we are actually infinite. And you look back over your life and you look at times when that period things appear to be hopeless, but they weren't. There's no mortal challenge that we are not greater than that's one of the mottos that I live by. And I have proven that I've seen it in my work. I've seen it in my studies. There's no moral challenge we can ever experience that we are not greater than. And if that's the case, then there's never no hope. There's always opportunity. There's always miracles, there's always opportunity waiting for us. We just need to say Get back into our authentic self and connect with the divine within.

You go

yes. I can't agree more. That's well said. We are all gifted and all abilities. There's no that would that mean said there's no challenge. We cannot overcome a mountain we can't climb.

Yeah.

Amen.

Yeah.

Well thank you very much for being on our podcast today.

It's been an honor and I'm grateful for the opportunity to have been here. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Tyler.