Avoiding Health Pitfalls for Entrepeneurs with Deepak Saini

Hello, everybody, and, welcome back. This is the Creative Collaboration

Show. Chuck Anderson here, and this is the show where we

help business owners, solopreneurs, coaches,

whatever you call yourself, with tips

and advice and strategies that can help you to grow

your business. And I'd say one thing that's unique about our

audience is that usually they have a big idea, a big

vision on how they wanna change the world. Now as

you're going forward with that vision, you're gonna spend a lot

of time and a lot of energy trying to get that vision

out there in a big, big way. And that's what we're gonna talk about

today. You know, how does your health, how does your energy, how does

your vitality weigh in on the

results that you're experiencing in your business. And

today, I have an expert on that who's going to,

help give us some advice and some strategies so that we

can, manage ourselves, so we can manage our business

better. So my guest today is Deepak Saini,

who specializes in helping entrepreneurs

manage their health, their vitality, their energy,

and I'm sure a whole lot of other things that we're gonna cover today. So,

Deepak, I'm so happy that you're here. Welcome. Thank you, Chuck. I'm

I'm super excited to be here with you today. Yeah. I'm

excited as well because, you know and and we were talking about this in

in in sort of, like, before the recording went on. I mean, this whole thing

about entrepreneurs, you know, being on this big

mission and big vision and big idea, it's

not uncommon for us to work a lot of hours,

burn the candle at both ends, and

maybe prioritize the business over our health.

And so it's a really, I think, a good topic, and it's

one that we probably don't talk enough about. So, you know, as a

starting point, why don't you tell everybody a little bit about, you know, your story?

I know you you are also entrepreneurial.

And so yeah. How did this all begin? And, let's

go from there. Yeah. Abs abs absolutely. So I, I'm a CPA

by First Profession. So accountant, worked in, you know, corporate,

corporate world for 20, plus years. I always

struggled with my health my entire life. I was always the chubby

kid. At 18 years old, I was morbidly obese, £100

heavier than I am now. I would get chronically sick, chronic

infections, bronchitis, etcetera, as a kid. That went right well into adulthood.

I'd get sick for 3 to 4 weeks at a time, like, 4 to 5

times a year. That's a big chunk of your year. We were, like, always sick.

But where it really came to head for me was in 2014. Our

youngest daughter, was just born. She was a baby, and I hurt my

back such that I had no flexion, meaning I could not bend over at

the waist. I could not pick up a £10 baby out of her

crib. It's very painful to, you know, put on your socks,

shoes, you know, get in and out of a chair, which includes the toilet. It

was it was no way no way to live. I like to say the Western

medical system did me no favors, kinda wasted 18 months of my health.

So I found all, you know, alternative means to heal my back, you know,

primarily that was my number one goal. Heal my back so I can play with

my children. But in doing so, I also made some lifestyle changes. And lo and

behold, I did heal my back. My autoimmune condition that was never

properly diagnosed went into remission. I essentially haven't really been sick in, like, 10

years, at least not to a level that I was before. And

the last 60 of the £100 melted away. You know, it was, you know, my

colleagues, coworkers, friends are last me, like, how did you do it? How did you

do it? Of course, people never see the internal struggle. Nobody sees the the the

depression or the anxiety and all these types of things. They just saw the weight

loss. So, yeah, after people ask me, and I'm sort of informally

mentoring them and that sort of thing, I said, I actually kinda

like this. So, yeah, I went and got some early certifications, and working with

people who were like me at that time, weight loss, back pain. And

and then, after, you know, about, you know, a year and a half of kind

of doing that as what we what we now call a side hustle, nobody called

that back then. I decided to branch out and actually do this as a business

and be an entrepreneur like many of the listeners, here. And, of course, it's been

it's been a struggle, and I've learned a lot of things along the way. And

like you said, Chuck, one of the things is, you know, pouring it all into

your business, trying to build something great at maybe the

expense of our own health. And if not at our own health, again, coming

from overcoming my many health challenges, I made it a priority to

really take my self care into account. But maybe it's your

relationships that suffer because you're working those long hours. You're going back

to the office, your home office, whatever it may be after dinner, these

sorts of things. So, again, that's kinda how I work with my clients now is

to have that work life balance so their health is prioritized,

their relationships so they can actually have it pour into their business.

You know, relationships, come into it,

so often when in the business coaching that I do, so many

conversations I have with entrepreneurs is that they started their business because they

wanted to have a better life for their family and better relationships with

their family. And then we end up realizing we're

there's a grind. We have to work more hours than we did when we had

jobs, and those relationships suffer even when we're working from

home. And so, yeah, I can completely relate to,

all of that. And, a

lot of times, the business comes first, relationships and

health and and all of that come later. I'd

say second, but, honestly, sometimes it's when there's

time. And and so that's not even

second. Right? Absolutely. I'm sure many of the listeners

can appreciate, you know, we're talking off air before you hit the

record button about, like, some, you know, some vacation time we took and etcetera,

etcetera. How many how many people who are listening can, you know, raise your hand

virtually, if you're like, yeah. I did a little bit of work while I was

on vacation or I was doing something on the plane and, sitting at everyone with

the family who's at the beach or the pool, and I just snuck in to

do a a networking call or whatever. Right? Like, I think many people are nodding

their heads here. And we have to make that time

for not only our family who turns around and helps

rejuvenate us, but also our own personal health, whatever whatever that looks like for you.

Getting a massage, yoga, doing your workout, sleeping.

Right? Yeah. You know, it's interesting

because I took nearly 2 weeks off, and it had been a

long time since I had done that. And I still

feel like I only scratched the surface on the rest that I

needed. And at the same time, it

highlighted issues in the business where

it really couldn't

survive without me for much longer than that. In fact,

I probably should have only taken 1 week off and not 2. So it

highlighted some issues there. 1 is in the business with the systems and

and whatnot and then and our team, but also the

fact that I did take a break for a couple of weeks and still felt

tired. And so I think it kind of speaks to, you

know, how it kind of builds up. And I remember journaling

that, I needed to plan more

breaks throughout this year because I feel like there's still

some rest to be done. Is that something that you, hear a lot

or experience a lot in terms of Absolutely. The amount of rest that us business

owners need? Yeah. There's a, you know, a couple things in what you said

there, Chuck. One is, like, how often are you actually actually unplugging,

from, you know, the business, so to speak. It's also taking not

even, like, a week or these longer breaks. Excuse me. But

also, like, you know, maybe it's, you know, the weekend off, and I'll

maybe share a story in a second about that, or whatever that looks like, or

just taking breaks throughout your day. How many people are just going, you know, 8

o'clock or 7 o'clock in the morning until, like, 9 o'clock at

night. Maybe you got a launch coming up or, you know, depending on what your

business looks like. And maybe there's some busier times, and you're just going all out.

And that's, that's very unsustainable in a long period of time. Yeah. You can do

that for, like, a 2 or 3 days in a row, but, like, you can't

go more than that before it's really starting to affect you. Your sleep, as you

mentioned, you're not sleeping well, your anxiety, or you're ruminating

about things that you did that day or that you need to do tomorrow and

need to make that call. I forgot to follow-up with some you know, all these

types of things. So it's super, super important. You know,

we just had, you know I don't know when this podcast can be released, but,

you know, just a few weeks ago was, like, you know, the kind of the

Christmas break. And I was at a family I function with a bunch of my

cousins and and their families and stuff like that. And somebody asked me about my

work schedule as an entrepreneur. I was actually the only entrepreneur of the

group. And, and I said, well, yeah, I almost work

unless I'm on vacation, I almost work every day. Like, oh, hold

on, Deepak. Wait. That where's that work life balance? So, like, I'll put in a

couple hours every day, but and here's the

caveat. I don't work crazy hours. Now have I in the

past? Absolutely. But I've made it a commitment, you know, in back in

20 late 24, soon as after dinner, I'm like,

it's done. I'm not I'm not going back. Everything can wait till tomorrow.

And I also prioritize my self care. So there's a big 2 hour chunk

in the middle of my day, and it varies depending on what's going on in

the day. And right after we get off this call, Chuck, I'm gonna I'm gonna

do my self care routine. If I take 2 hours to work out and

stretch, sit in the sauna, you know, make, you know, healthy meals,

etcetera. So I prioritize that. So, yes, I work every day, but I don't work

12 hours a day. Most days, I'm only working 6, sometimes it's

8. On the weekends, it's maybe 2 or 3. So, again, we all

have to find what's right for us, but that allows me to take care of

my own self care so I can be the best version of me. Both the

best is business owner, the best husband, the best father,

etcetera, etcetera. But also allows me to be there for my

family in the evenings, and and actually have dinner with

them. Yeah. That sounds amazing. Definitely

during the week, I could do I could do better. At least now, I take

1 hour for lunch every day. A good friend of mine,

mentioned that he started doing that and the difference it was making in his

business. And I'm like, yeah. Imagine that. Actually, able to sit down

and have lunch and take a break. Could definitely

do better than that, during the week. And I I

realized, you know, in our family, we used to always take

Sundays off. I mean, we kinda grew up in a religious town, and, you know,

it was very common to do that. I have found for myself, and it took

a long time to figure this out, but Saturdays are my day. Like

like, my body just, I think, needs rest, by that point because I

probably worked myself so hard. And by the by the time

Saturday morning comes around, it's, that's the day. And I

find if I take Saturdays off, I really don't think about

anything that day that that has been helpful. But definitely definitely

need more breaks and and and less time,

spent working. I wanted to ask you because you do

work with, you know, so many business owners and entrepreneurs who are

experiencing this or even ready for change,

what are you hearing from them? Like, where are they at in their journey,

and their level of awareness of how their health

is impacting their business? Is it like a fire alarm, like something

major is going on, or are they being proactive? Like, where are

they in by the time they're reaching out to you?

Yeah. A great question. I love that you brought that word up, awareness.

Right? It's, like, really how aware are we? Many people don't

even realize they have an underlying problem.

And when symptoms come up, sometimes they don't even understand

what this is. And I'll just say this as well. You know, sometimes we get

so used to feeling a certain way, whether it be physically or mentally, that we

forget how normal actually feels, and it just feeling now, it just becomes the

air we breathe. Like, we don't even know any any difference. But to answer your

original question, unfortunately,

most of my clients who come here fall in 1 or 2 camps. 1, it's

the emergency. I'm sick of feeling sick,

whatever that may be. Gut issues, etcetera, you know, skin things

related. And now I've been suffering for 3, 4, even 5

years. And I know it's like, I I know I need to take care of

this. Otherwise, I I'm gonna burn out. I can't I won't be able to put

it into my business. I'm worried the business is gonna go. I won't be able

to keep my staff with the biz you know, all these sorts of things. That's

that's the major one actually I see. The secondary group is,

oh, hey. Grandpa, dad, mom, whatever the

case may be, had x major health issue at age

pick an age. I'm coming up to that age next year. I'm

come to I'm coming up I just turned 55. That's when dad had

his heart attack. Am I on the same course? I'm always

stressed out. I'm doing this. I know there's something here, but it's like that.

It's it's that that check mark date. It's like this this milestone.

Maybe I need to look into things. So they may or may not have symptoms

that they recognize yet, but, like, that's the thing. So it's it's typically one of

those 2. There's some other variations, of course, but it's typically one of those 2.

Fire the fire alarm, 5 bell alarm, or,

I don't know. I'm feeling a little something, and that's when something happened with dad

and grandpa or whatever the case may be. I need to I should look into

things. Yeah. Well, that's interesting because I've had those

exact thoughts because I just turned 54. I'll be 55

later this year. And, you know, it's kind of a benchmark moment even on the

whole, you know, 55 thing. And, you know,

where yeah. Where where was my dad at that point? Where was my

grandfather at that point? And, yeah, those thoughts

do enter your mind for sure. And it's

interesting that you say I mean, the fire alarm, it's like we

push and we push and we push to the

point where our bodies can't take it anymore.

Right? And ignoring things and and and

all of that. And, you know, the business you know, the show must go on.

The business needs me, and all of that. We,

you know, created this situation where we're the vital part of our

business. And it's easy to ignore things for sure.

So it's interesting that and that's why I wanted to ask you, like, where

where are you noticing where people are at when they come to you,

for a couple reasons. 1, if there's anyone listening in right

now that has been tolerating something, you should probably talk to Deepak.

And, you know, let let's it doesn't have to go on that

way. So yeah.

So let's let's unpack that a little bit, in terms of some

of the the takeaways. What are some of the mistakes

that, us business owners are making that's making

that worse? And then then, you know, what do we start

to do about it so that it can be better and we can be better

for our businesses, we can be better for our families, and we can be better

for ourselves? Yeah. Some of the common mistakes is, you know, no

surprises, like, just pushing

through. Like, I need to get this. I need to get to through this quarter.

I need to get through that launch, or my my my book's coming out next

year. And once after after and it's all and this is continuing thing rolling

that and you never get to it till it's like you can't actually bear it

anymore. So it's that not prioritizing and not recognizing. That's probably the

biggest mistake that people make. Second is, you

know, like, that, the quick fix. Like like, that's the general population.

Right? But, you know, entrepreneurs are are no different. It's like, I'll try this.

I saw a a blog post or somebody or some ad came in my Facebook

feed or whatever the case may the quick magic bullet. And I'm sorry. Health our

bodies are very complex systems, and they're interrelated with each other

and doing something. And one part of your body is gonna affect something else

and understand how that works. There's there's no magic bullets. So

trying a bunch of things that are, you know, may

or may not cost a lot, but they're just ineffective, and they're not right for

you. Right? Health is very individualized. So those, I'd say, overall are the the two

biggest things is not really taking the time

to address the root cause because you got something else

going on. Or you're like, I'm too busy, so I'll try this, you know, magic

pill or some topical cream or whatever

the whatever that that thing might may be. There's always something. I mean,

that's that's the whole marketing industry for you. It's a $2,000,000,000,000

industry with a bunch of crap that doesn't actually

work. It doesn't mean it doesn't work for somebody, but it might not work for

you. Right? We're all, again, individualized. And then I think that the thing to

actually overcome this is number 1 is, like, you actually need a

true reflection. Like, I don't want anyone have who have to have that fire

alarm like that like, it was for me or, like, I couldn't pick up my

daughter. Or many of my clients are like are you

know, they literally just can't live. They can't you know, they're

they can't even function after, like, 3 o'clock in the afternoon,

or they gotta be on a bunch of, you know, a ton of caffeine or

something just to get it going. Or they have a 3 day event, and

then they're, like, out of commission because they had to be so jacked up and

so on point doing their 3 day event to, you know, get clients,

whatever, and then they're, like, for, like, a week after because it it's so much,

and their body was bare. They're like, I don't want that for anyone. So,

again, it's recognizing both physically and also

mentally, emotionally where you're at to make

those small steps. And, again, it's not a big thing. It's a bunch of

very small steps in a very succinct way for most people, not

everyone. But if you're at that point, that that 5 bell

alarm, point, it's going to be multiple things,

and you have to kinda coordinate them in a in a in a fashion that

makes sense for you. And a bunch of small things, you know, add up to

a big result, which is getting your health back. Amazing.

You know, that was me. I was one of those people who were doing the

3 day events. And when I started doing 3 day events, by

day 4, I could barely walk. My back

hurt. I needed to sleep for days.

Right? It was easily I had to got to the point where

I knew, and it would just became part of the routine. I knew that on

day 4, I needed to completely unplug that day.

And, and so yeah. And then just

sleep. Right? And couldn't walk, couldn't stand.

Yeah. I I totally appreciate that. And, you know, some people I I think many

everyone's gonna know who Tony Robbins is and probably many of the listeners maybe have

attended one of his events. Tony has a whole team

behind the scenes. When he's not on stage, he's getting

massages. He's, like, in hyperbaric oxygen chamber. People are,

like, you know, chiropractors, like, adjusting him, like, all sorts of stuff.

Like so he can be. Like, he is a presence for those

events, but, like, there's all the stuff going on behind the scenes before

he hits steps on stage. He steps away for a second. He's getting

adjusted. That night, like, he's going full out. I mean, he's turning around because he

can do that. That. Most of us can't, but, like, what are the small things

we can do every day in our daily life so we can perform to our

best, whether we're on stage or not, just in our business and with our families.

So, well, let's talk about some of those things. Like, what what do you recommend

for, you know, anyone listening in? I mean, whether you're going through something

major or maybe maybe it's just, you know, minor

inconveniences or things you're tolerating with your energy or, you

know, if you're one of those proactive people, which,

you know, that you wanna be proactive as well. But it sounds

like most people are reacting to something that they feel and

that they're experiencing. So what's your recommendation there? I mean,

yeah, probably we're not gonna go to Tony Robbins' level. That sounds amazing, and I've

heard lots of stories about him. And Brendan Burchard has some

things that he does, behind the scenes in his seminars as

well to be proactive. For me, I stopped drinking caffeine,

2 days before the event, and I only drank jasmine

tea throughout the entire event. And then I would I

love coffee. So I was I went right back to it afterwards. But

for me, that's how I could so there were 14 hour days that

we were doing. And for me to have sustained energy, that's what I needed to

do. And perhaps there's a level of discovery that

people need to go through to see what works for them. But what are your

recommendations for someone who's experiencing stuff in

their business or their their energy that's impacting their business? What are

some of the steps they can start to take? Yeah. So I'm I'm really big

in, you know, getting data and quantifying. We can

guess. I like to say, let's test, but not guess. And, you know, you can

try a bunch of things and stuff online and YouTube videos, whatever. And, like, you

could probably find something that might work for many people,

but if you really wanna get serious here, let's and, again, we're individual

people. So I like to test and see, like, you know, there could be you

could be eating healthy foods, but they're not right for you. They could actually be

causing inflammation for you. I'll just use myself as an example

briefly, you know, like, raw spinach and kale, you know, when people do in the

smoothies and stuff like that. That's like kryptonite food for me. It took me a

while to figure that out, and there's a variety of other things. So, like, I

like to actually test and see what food intolerances you have. You know,

your microbiome, like, what's going on there? If you've got leaky gut, or some

other sort of, thing like that, doesn't matter what you're doing, from a

food perspective, it's gonna be affecting your energy, etcetera. You

know, what neurotransmitters are you producing? Are you not producing GABA,

serotonin, etcetera? And then how are we gonna address those things? And that's gonna be

affecting your sleep and maybe anxiety levels. So I'm really big into, you know,

testing from both a physical point of view, and that that does bleed into the

mental point of view as well. But then also addressing,

you know, kind of that inner game work. You know? Like, what are some of

your, you know, your any negative emotions you're conforming, the limiting beliefs

you have, and addressing those as well. And sometimes just getting

over those mental hurdles can make a big difference, both not only

for your physical, but also, like, how you show up in the world and how

you show up in your business with your clients, etcetera. So I'm really

big into, you know, let's run experiments.

You know? It it it could be actually doing testing, and that's part of what

I'd work on with my clients is getting very robust testing done. Or, like,

okay. Hey. Let's let's just try and figure things out. Like, do a food log

and see. You know, this is an example I use all the time. You know,

if you have low energy and maybe, you know,

your bowel movements are all weird on, like, every Monday. It's like, well, what are

you eating Sunday night or even Saturday night? If there's a consistent thing, and I'm

not saying that's a causation, but maybe there's some correlation to your

diet or other lifestyle practices to how you feel in your energy

level. So, again, that's something I kinda encourage my client or anyone to do, but

certainly with my clients is like, let's try and figure something out. We can't just

guess and, like, this is the latest thing I saw on YouTube, so let's try

it. Like, that's not an approach. Right.

Yeah. Well, doctor YouTube, go on there and

find something that confirms what you already believe.

Right. Right. Don't do it. So

yeah. Interesting. So listen. I wanna make sure that

our guests have an opportunity to connect with you because, I mean, we've

touched on so many things. I mean, that us

business owners, entrepreneurs, speakers, like, we're all guilty

of it, and that is putting our business first, prioritizing our health

later, or even tolerating the energy,

differences. And I I, you know, I I can appreciate what you just

said about, you know, kale and spinach being your kryptonite. Like, how

are you supposed to know that? We're we're we're told all the time,

oh, eat healthy, eat healthy. This is healthy. This is not.

And so, you know, how are you supposed to

know? And you really don't unless you get tested for it.

And and so there's that. How do

people get in touch with you, and, you know, what

what what do you recommend, in terms of connecting with you? We'll make sure

we put all the links, to

to your website and any other resources that you have.

What do you recommend there? Yeah. I well, I wanna turn it back and

give a gift to the audience, and I think that's also the best way to,

yeah, connect with me. I understand most people who who may who may be listening,

but, like, that sounds awesome. I wanna check it out. But, like, we're not gonna

just, like, call up Deepak right off off the bat. Right? I I know. I

understand. You wanna get to know me better. So let me give this gift to

you. It's, 7 steps to optimize your mental, physical, and

financial performance. Again, it's kinda geared to everyone, but especially

important for the entrepreneurs and business owners out there. So it's a it's a

bit of a it's a it's a guide and some different seven areas that I

suggest people, you know, try to look into if you're not already incorporating these into

your life to to explore. And then it's at the back is a a

tracker, a 30 day tracker. Now here's my advice.

Don't try all 7 at once. It's a recipe for failure. Pick

1, maybe 2 at tops. Okay? If these are new habits for

you, just try it 1, maybe 2 for 30 days. And

if it resonates with you, great. You built a new habit. Go back and try

a different one. If it doesn't resonate with you, that's fine too. So I think

that's the best way. Download this guide. We'll have the link, in the show notes

there, and get you'll get to know a little bit about me, a little bit

about my further about my story. And then intro you know, you get introduced

into my world, and then, you can learn more about me. And I also if

I can just briefly I also have a podcast as as well, and maybe we

can put that link in the in the show notes as well, Chuck. Absolutely.

Well, if you're watching this on video, look just beneath the video. All of the

links will be right there. If you're listening to this on a podcast, just

go into your mobile device and whatever player you're using, all of the

links are right there in the show notes as well. So, yeah,

we'll have, that link to that free gift. Thank you, by the way. That's

very helpful. I'm gonna go download that. And, and the

link to your podcast and, anything else, Deepak, that you

want there, just go ahead and send that to me, and we'll put it there

for for folks. Because we want this to be helpful. If you

are on a big mission let's say you have a business that's got

the next world changing idea, but your

energy and your health suffers as a result,

then it doesn't just hurt you. It hurts all of us because you're not

able to get that out there, in in as big of a way as

it as possible. And, you know, that's you know, we serve entrepreneurs,

but most of our entrepreneurs are people who have

world changing ideas and want to see people live, you

know, happier, more fulfilling lives. And we wanna see you

fulfill that mission. And that's why, probably,

Deepak, we don't talk about these things enough. We talk about marketing

strategies. We talk about business. We talk about different aspects

of of building a business. But how about

building ourselves and, making sure that we're

in the right state to be able to do the best job we possibly can?

Absolutely, Chuck. And like I said it before, you know, speaking towards myself, but I

asked the every listener to, like, reflect on this for a second for yourself.

If I'm not the best version of me, and that means taking care of myself

both physically and mentally, again, I I've already said this. I'll repeat myself

here. I can't show up to be the best business owner,

the best, coach for my clients, the best husband,

the best, father, etcetera. So

whatever you need to do for yourself so you can be at your top game,

so you can have your mission. Again, I have a public stated goal to to

impact a 1000000 lives. I hope other people are listening to have even bigger goals

than that. Yes, your zone of genius needs to get out there,

but if you're sick in bed or

not functioning mentally or physically or, you know, in pain,

etcetera, that's a grind on you, and you can't serve your mission. So

whatever it is for you, like, optimize yourself.

Absolutely. And, you know, speaking of optimizing yourself and growing

ourselves and, you know, making ourselves a priority,

there's our health, but there's also our learning and education. And I'm a

huge advocate for self improvement, self development.

I have been for almost 30 years. I've read a lot of books.

I've taken a lot of courses. I've attended a lot of seminars because I

believe that your business will only grow to the

extent that you do. And so so I've kind

of used this podcast to kind of cheat a little bit, and that

is to find out what some of those, what of

those some of those things are for you. So I ask all my guests, and

I'm gonna put you on the spot here, for a must read book recommendation.

So, these are only some of the books that I have. I have an entire

closet. Well, I mean, now and now it's all digital. I read a lot of,

listen to a lot of audiobooks. But, one of

the things, the more that I read and the more that I learn,

the more that I realize I still have a lot to learn.

And so that's one piece of wisdom from my fifties.

In my twenties, I thought I knew everything. And in my

fifties, I realized I barely know anything. And

so, if you had 1

if you could just recommend 1, and I know there's lots. One must

read book that somebody reads next that could really help them on their journey.

What would you recommend? Yeah. Great question. And I'll say I gotta these are

not all my books either behind me. I got lots as well in all different

topics, obviously, health related, business related marketing, real estate, like

everything. One book I really love,

and I'm, I'm going on my way on vacation next month. I'm gonna be rereading

it, because it's been I I like to reread my books every couple years,

as well. Biology of Belief by, Bruce Lipton. I

think that's one that if you haven't read it, kind of about our, you

know, our belief systems and, you know, our unconscious

mind and how that, you know, can play a role in,

you know, what we want to achieve, not only in our health, physical and mental

health, but, you know, it's kind of, you know, what we wanna manifest for our

ourselves, as well. So I've I'd recommend that one. And it's probably just a little

top of mind because I know it's the book I'm gonna be taking on this

vacation, but, I think that's a great book. That's I

there's a few things I love about that. First of all, it goes really well

with what we've been talking about here today. There's that, but I've never

heard of that book before. And so this is what I

find so fascinating and why I love asking the question of our

guests. I thought when I started asking the question, I'd get all the same,

you know, the usual suspects, like think and grow rich and all of that.

Almost every guest has had a different recommendation and

many cases, books I've never heard of before. So that's amazing. Yeah.

That's awesome. I know, you know, as I mentioned earlier, Chuck, I have a podcast

as well. So, you know, maybe I I don't know. Probably a a

quarter of the books I read every year are, like, our our guests who've

been on the on the podcast. And sometimes there are topics like I'm like, I

normally wouldn't read that, but I always like to read the you know, even that's

before or even sometimes it's after we record it. And so, like, again, I just

like, much like you, Chuck, love knowledge and and thirst for knowledge of

learning about a lot of different topics. And it's interesting how I think especially

and I can't say this from, like, when I was struggling with all the health

issues because when you have those nagging pain, it just grinds on your

on your psychology and your and your mind and and then your

capacity to think. But, you know, once you're, you know, clean and healthy

and and and you don't have those type of things, it's quite

interesting that the connections you can make from diverse topics. And I'm like,

oh, this person's saying the same principle in a different fashion, in a

different, area. And this person's saying essentially the same thing, different area.

Like, Like, I I just find that fascinating.

Yeah. Absolutely. And how

other people have the the messages,

the ideas, and the sometimes

answers, solutions to problems that, that we're searching

for. And sometimes it just comes out through,

casual conversation. So so I really pay close attention to

these recommendations. Not only, will we put the link

to that book in the show notes well? So if you're, again, watching this

on video or podcast and you wanna check that book out, the link is

there. I'm gonna go check it out because I believe wholeheartedly

that I was exposed to this idea for a reason.

Look. I think we could definitely spend

all day, talking about this and doing deep dives in all of

it. But, you know, we're we're almost out

of time here for this episode. I know that you

and I will definitely be talking again and collaborating on a number of things, so

that's great. Happy to have you in my world.

As we sign off for this episode, any final,

any final words of advice or or words of wisdom for our

audience here today? Yeah. Absolutely. I wholeheartedly and I

I've I've witnessed this myself personally and with clients as

as well. If you feel like there's something that's just you can't maybe

put your maybe you know. You absolutely know because you have, like, very, like,

very definitive symptoms. But even if it's just something that's like, I just know there's

something just not quite right, still a little off, don't let that

drag on for years. Talk to someone,

have have a conversation with me, any other, you know,

specialist, coach, etcetera, and just figure out what is worrying for

you. Like, get get a handle on it. You'll be much you'll

appreciate that you took action sooner rather

than than later. You don't want that, again, 5 alarm, bell to eventually happen. If

you just feel like a little something's off now, like, address it now.

Yeah. Address it now. Don't wait until it's too late,

for sure. So I think, yeah, great advice to end this episode by.

Deepak, thank you so much. Thank you, doctor. Appreciate being here. You've

touched on a topic that we probably don't talk about enough, but I really

appreciate, the work that you're doing. And to our

audience, thank you for listening in. And the fact that you're still listening means

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