Starting a Business After a Health Journey

Tell us two truths and a lie.

So, I adopted an AIDS baby. I work as a trainer on an ocean liner. I'm a child of Holocaust parents.

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Hi, and welcome back to a whole lot of shift. I am your host, Jen Ingram, and I am here today with a very special guest, Ingrid Saenger. I am so honored to have her on the show here with us today. She is in one of my masterminds. And she is an incredible health coach who I know just has a great message to share with all of you today. And I'm so privileged to have her come on the show to talk to you. Welcome, Ingrid.

Thank you. Thanks for having me on your show. I'm excited. Yeah, me too.

So Fingrid is originally from Johannesburg, South Africa and came to the States about 30 years ago. She, like I said, she's in our mastermind. And I absolutely love being part of the mastermind with her because every time if particularly when one of us is struggling, her ability to walk us through kind of those thoughts that we have and reframe them is just incredible. And so I wanted to bring her on the show today to kind of share a little bit more about her story. Ingrid, introduce yourself to the audience. Tell us some more.

Thanks, Jen. So as Jen said, I am originally from Johannesburg, South Africa, and came to America I was 22 years old, I packed a suitcase and arrived. And the interesting stories, Houston was my port of entry. And I had never seen a drive thru and found on every corner in Houston was a drive thru. And I spent a year going through every drive thru, I could get burgers and fries, I could get sodas and ice cream, I could even get alcohol beverages. It was a blast. I mean, I really had a fun, fun time with it. You don't really realize that you started to put on weight as you're going through a certain process and you're having fun. I happened to go back to South Africa to see my father and ran into my childhood doctor who called me into his office and put me on the scale. And my top weight was 203 pounds, I had eaten my way to 200 pounds. And he warned me that if I don't do something about it, I will end up over 300 pounds for the rest of my life. And Jen, if I can tell you I freaked so when I got back to America, I started looking for help out there and realize there were a million messages and a lot of promises. But there really wasn't any kind of guidance, lots of pills and and mu cheese and creams and all of that kind of thing. exercise programs join this join that. But there was no real guidance of what to do with weight, and how to manage your weight. So I began a journey on my own. I was in my late 20s. And I'd never walked into a gym before. Anyway, I did try all the pills and the creams. Yes, short lived, maybe a little bit of weight loss here and there, but really nothing sustainable. And a girlfriend gave me a gift for three personal training sessions. And at I don't know 28 Or so I walked into a gym for the very first time. Intimidated is not even the word looked around. There were beautiful bodies, people were lifting weights. It is intimidating. My trainer introduced herself. She was great. And the journey began for me started loving working out. So training started. And then what was next was how to how to manage your foods. Not much guidance there either. But I was in the bodybuilding world. So I started with that kind of diet. And if I tell you that is probably one of the most unhealthiest diets out there. Lots of deprivation, you know, it's, yeah, it's just, it's not a one to follow. I met a guy who started cooking for me, I'm not the best cook. It doesn't give me joy. I've lost my mother at 12 So there was no one to teach me how to cook. So he was cooking for me, too. And I realized that I needed to learn a little bit more about that. So I put myself through a holistic nutrition class here. And I ended in San Diego. So here in San Diego and became a holistic nutritionist, and started to learn about super foods and macros and how to balance things. realize I had a I had a story to share. And as I looked around, I was realizing America was getting heavier and heavier. We were seeing obesity, we were seeing diabetes, I mean, metabolic diseases. And no one was talking about any of this. So I knew that my story was important. And if I could at least share it to some maybe, maybe I could help along the way. And so my journey began, I became a personal trainer 97. So I've been doing it a very long time. And about seven years ago, I blew my knee out and sat on my bed healing and thought, what happens if I can't stand in a gym? For six, eight hours a day? What will I do? So I went to Coach store and became a health coach. So people always ask me, Are you a life coach? Well, I work with lifestyle. But really, my focus is health. Because I think we certainly hear no one's talking about real health, true health. There are lots of programs, you can join an exercise program, you can join an eating program, or a 30 day of this take a tablet there. I mean, it's still the same message. There's just a lot more of it. I think COVID just exacerbated that. Wherever you look, there's a promise, whether it's online, it's Google, Facebook, ads, TV, everyone's promising you something. And if you don't reach that promise, which most don't? Where do people go, they continue to eat. And we are now seeing childhood obesity. We're seeing kids with diabetes. So yeah, exactly. I started coaching a long time ago on the gym floor, because I was noticing people would come and work out, but they hadn't fuel themselves, so they couldn't get through a workout. Or they were completely dehydrated, so not able to deal with their cravings, their sugar cravings, I mean, so much happens in the body. So that's where I began was in a gym, with training and coaching that way, as time went on, and I got my coaching degree, I started doing health coaching, and I now weave it in with personal training. So that's I try and put the two together, what I truly find is that when people start with working out, and the body starts to change, a little people will now start to deal with the food side of it. But to ask them to stop that sugar or get off the processed, without them seeing some kind of shift. It doesn't. So I learned very quickly that training starts first, let's get the body feeling better. Because once you they, you're willing to deal with the cravings or you're willing to get off the sugar. And for me, there's some really clear things. It's sugar. It's processed and refine, keep it nutrient dense Whole Foods. It's simple. It's not easy, but it's definitely simple.

Yes, oh my gosh, there's so many pieces of that. Because there's, there's pieces of that that are very similar to my own story. And the journey that I went through and I cannot agree with you more on just getting started physically. And the moment that you start to feel or see what you what you can do like just that piece then bringing in the the change in lifestyle and food. That's a whole other Oh my gosh. Okay, hold on. So there's so many nuggets I have. So okay, so for the audience. Before the show, I did ask Ingrid if she wanted to play a little game a little two truths and a lie. And so she has come up with two truths and a lie. And so through this story, and through our interview today, I'm going to be trying to figure out if I can figure out the two truths and a lie and I hope that you in the audience will play along. And if you're watching this on YouTube, please comment below with what you think the two truths and a lie are. And then at the end of the show today, inkbird will review what they are. So okay, tell us two truths and a lie.

So I adopted an AIDS baby. I work as a trainer on an ocean liner. I'm a child of Holocaust parents.

Wow. Okay. Okay, this is good. Okay, okay, so now I'm gonna have to guess I know, right? Oh my gosh, no, I love this. So there weren't there's, there's so many pieces to what you just shared. And I love, I love the different avenues that you took from first, you know, oh my gosh, I'm in America. And, and I there's this thing called drive throughs. And it's so easy and right and like, and I can go through all the different ones. And then you know, and then eventually figuring out where that takes you. And I love that you said, like, as you're gaining the weight, you don't you don't I mean, you know, you know, like your pants don't fit but you don't know, like,

do but you really don't. No, he will see overweight weight people and they said didn't they see themselves in the mirror? Don't they realize they're putting on weight and the truth is not. It's not until we get to that size that actually it's not the pants are tight. They just don't firms, or you're going out with girlfriends, and you suddenly feel like, I can't I hate who I am. I hate what I look like you catch yourself reflection in the mirror, you don't recognize yourself. So you start to isolate. I always laugh, I always like you know, put a chair up to the refrigerator, put a pipe right into my stomach, because that's sort of what happens. And the more you feel bad about yourself, the more you tend to eat, because you're eating to try and fill something in ourselves that is not fillable with food. When I work with clients, I have this like nice questions to ask. Am I hungry? When last night II? What am I feeling? So that we can start to identify why we're shoveling food into our mouth? Are we really doing it for sustained staining purposes, are we trying to fill a hole that is not vulnerable? But that happens for sure

that there's so much truth to that for sure. And, and I want to be real, you know, the the food industry, at least in the United States, they understand that, and what they put in our food, what they allow in our food, how they allow it to be marketed. Even the food pyramids that they teach is not necessarily, you know, they're very aware and aware of what it does to you as an individual. And that is just gets you to eat more.

What is that, but they're not aware of you as a person or your health, they are aware of their bank account. And and, and I can get onto the bandwagon about track because I believe we're eating plastic. And we start to learn how to read a label. And I'm not talking about looking at the fact that the calories, the carbohydrates, the proteins, I'm saying look at the ingredients. And if it's more than five, and you can't pronounce a word, you put it back on the shelf. I always tell clients shop on the outskirts of a grocery store because that's where all the fresh foods are. The minute you start going through the lot of the aisles you're going into processed and processed is unfortunately, going to give you more cravings, you're going to want more sugar, your body doesn't know what to do with it. So actually people who are overweight that are eating processed foods because they think it's cheaper, are actually going to keep gaining weight. Because your body is not getting rid of those chemicals that are in our foods. Our water we're drinking is unhealthy. It's full of contraception, contraceptives, it's full of antibiotics. Yeah, you know, it's like we walk around blink blinders on. And it's, it's it just makes me so crazy. We think we're doing good to our children. But they're eating to toe. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's crazy. Look what we're doing to the fish in the water. Right looks like that's happening there. Can you imagine what we're doing to the inside of us. And I think as a health coach, I go a little further to the point of as we age, I mean, I've just turned 61. So I'm at that point where I can talk about I'm a senior, and as we age, we lose our hormones from the age of 29 or 30. Our hormone production slows down and eventually stops. And if if we want to optimize how we're feeling we have to address that. We have to address the balancing of our hormones. And what we're eating is throwing it's so out of whack. So we're living we're settling for a norm of a lifestyle that really should wouldn't be your normal or whether it's headaches, not sleeping, you're moody, you're anxious, you're depressed, we go to our doctor. With a whole bunch of questions, you get 15 minutes, I promise you, you will leave with a prescription, a number of bloodwork and come back in a month. We're not addressing the situation, no one's talking to you about your food, your intake, your nourishment, your hydration, we're just giving you an anti anxiety or an antidepressant and sending you on our way. And so we're becoming a nation of band aids. We're not we're not helping people. Were just filling the pockets of the big companies, the pharmaceutical companies, the big farmers, that they're the ones who are taking advantage of us, and we don't know better. And unless we coaches so to speak to this, how do we help the people?

Yeah, no,

it makes me crazy. It just makes me crazy. And people don't ask enough questions. We are not our own detector, we don't have our own backs. We think the doctor or the wife, I call it the white coat syndrome. They're almost like God, we believe everything. And we don't question it.

Yeah, there's so so much to that. And it sounds. So it sounds like you had a couple of really big shifts in your life that kind of helped guide you to this place. The first being when you realized what you were doing your health when you went back home, and the doctor was like, Do you realize you're just getting up there?

Right? What have I done? You know, I've come to this, what we consider outside of America, this big, free country. It's where it all happens as kids, it's like, we all want to go to America, and I arrived, and trust it, if you will, right. And started to blow up. I think I was 112 pounds when I arrived and went home 203 I mean, we're talking big weight. Yeah, me three years to lose 70 pounds, once I figured it out. So that was number one. And then also, when I realized the system, my body system works, digestion. We never give our digestion a break. We never support our digestion, we just keep shoveling. We never give the liver which is the hardest working order organ a break. And we're hoping it'll slaughter everything when it's not filtering your chemicals. And it's not filtering your synthetic medications. So what happens? It just cycles around in the body. So when women become estrogen dominant as they go, getting closer to perimenopause, menopause, it's it's not being excreted out of the body in any form. So it cycles and it settles. Where do you think that settles right in the middle section, where we all start to put on weight. And as women we don't understand why we think we're doing well backs. I think everybody should do a cleanse, or an I do whole food cleanse. I'm not a believer drink your food. Personally, that's my opinion. I know people love this movies in the morning. And that's great. I'm not knocking it. But I think God gave us teeth and saliva for a reason. And I think he is it. Eat your food. So I don't believe in cleanses. When we go on juice for five days, I think you eat whole foods. But if you take the inflammatory foods out of your diet, you will give your digestion a break and a chance to heal. And you give the liver a chance just to stop gossiping and breathe a little so that it can cope with what we're the onslaught of what we're doing to it.

Right? Yeah, it's, it's so because I never did like a cleanse, per se. I think when people hear the word cleanse, they usually think of a couple things like some sort of juicing cleanse, or some sort of cleanse that's done with pills, or something of that nature.

And I really don't believe that. And as I said, I think women or men as well, I mean, I work with both. I'm not just you know, I work with both men and women. And I think you want to lose weight, you want to stay healthy, you have to eat a lot. You can't stop eating. The body just holds on to everything because it doesn't know when it's going to get its next meal. And it will hold on to the fact I will say this also I think it's as much as I'm passionate about what I do. I find the world out there It's hard to get them to understand what health is, and come to their senses when they get a diagnosis. They've been, you know, a diabetic or I've had a heart attack, or there's something that's happened in their health that makes them realize they better get on the bandwagon. So, you know, if people could just be a little healthier. As you age, you will, I think, avoid some diseases, and you will age with grace. But what most people find out that when they get to their 60s and 70s, it's then that they realized the life they had, and they were not invincible. Life does knock you and you've lost those years of being healthy. It's never it's never too late.

Never too late. For sure. I mean, I say all the time. Like, I wish I would have figured this out when I was in my 20s, and even early 30s, and just gaining weight. It didn't come until later. But it's definitely never too late.

Well say awesome. Yeah, I've never grown, I was never an athlete. So I know a lot of trainers, when you talk to them, they were athletes their whole lives. They were runners in school, and have never carried weight. So I think that I come to the table very differently. Because when I talk to people, I've walked that walk, I know what it feels like to carry that weight. Every extra pound is four pounds of pressure, whether it's on your back your knees. So you are carrying it regardless. So I've been there, I've walked the walk, I get it, I know what it feels like. And it's not just just give it up. It's not that easy. So it is a process. And my process is Baby baby steps. One thing at a time, don't try to take it all on. health and lifestyle is I mean, it's a lifestyle. It's not a binge, it's not going to happen in a month, you're not going to lose those 10 pounds for that wedding next month. We need to just start being healthy, healthy slowly. And generally I start with water. So when clients start with me rock, which I do, so we'll get moving, move, but it's not literally in the gym, just start to move, and stop drink water. That's it. That's it. Because once you hydrate it, everything changes.

Oh, man, that's so true. And I remember even the battle that I had of giving up. For me it was diet, Dr. Pepper. And I mean, when I realized, like, how much of that. I know, like, I drink it like I drink it like it was water, right? Like all all day long. And yeah, it's it's so interesting. And I remember and I love that you say that it really just starts with movement. For years, I listened to other people who were like, You can't lose weight, if you're not exercise, you have to get a full hour of cardio and your heart rate has to be at a certain point. So you're just wasting your time. And I was like, that doesn't make sense to me. Because if even if I go out, you know, work, you know, I had 215 minute breaks a day. And I said, if I go out and I walk for 15 minutes, two times a day, at a minimum. I'm like, I know that as I'm walking, I'm still burning calories. And the whole time I come back in so much more thirsty. And I'm like, I'm adding this up in my head, right? And I'm like, so it doesn't make sense that I have to do it for an hour solid or else. It does nothing. I was like, I don't understand this concept. And so I love that you're sharing like it can start simple and small.

I work with people who like I don't like it. I don't want to lift weight. Look, I think every woman and every man should lift weights. Certainly as we age, strength training is what keeps us structure. It keeps our posture. Our food is what gives us our shape, for sure. But those people that I can't go to a gym, I was just like, take 10 minutes at the end of maybe three hours in your day. Whether it's you're going to the bathroom, do 10 squats, you standing and doing your dishes stand on one leg. The body doesn't know the difference. But at the end of that you've actually done 330 minutes of movement, then is so much better than nothing at all. Nothing. Yes, we are finding that sitting is the new smoking. Don't move one day with no movement is like two weeks without exercise. So you do the calculation of how do you make that up if we're just sitting on the couch doing nothing?

Right? Oh man, I remember those days. I mean, really the only thing I would do would go from the couch to the fridge

right man Right, that's three pounds happens.

Yeah, that I mean, that was it. It's so it's so interesting. The other thing that I love that that you've shared is the way that you kind of took what you already know, the skills that you already had. And I'm speaking to those in my audience who may be, you know, maybe you're an entrepreneur, you've got a side hustle, whatever, because something that I've heard you say mentioned a couple times now, one was you took the skills you already had as a personal trainer, and decided to help develop that into furthering that training, and including some nutritional coaching. And then the fact that you were like, Hey, I happen to know that I have this experience of being challenged with food, thoughts, and weight, and all these other things as well. And I'm a trainer, and how can I incorporate that and help my clients and use this? It's like you said, I already have all these things that I can use and work with. And I think that's, that's so important. I think sometimes people, one of the shifts that I often talk about that you have to make is realizing the value and the skills that you already have. And where else can you apply them.

Indeed, as a as an older person, I work with people who don't take my wine away from me, and I'm a foodie, I'm not going to do that I love, that's great. I don't take anything away from anybody. But I stopped to help you support what's going on in the inside alongside with bloodwork because it gives me such a true insight into what's going on inside your body. And we can connect dots with symptoms to what's going on with imbalances. And once you start to feel better, and let's say you now go out and eat whatever it is you love pasta with cream, be aware of how that makes you feel. Because, honestly, you do that four or five times, and you feel like crap, the next day, you will eventually make your own choice as to, if I eat that, that's how I'm going to feel. And I'm willing to do that this time, or I'm not. And within tonight, you will start to make choices, better choices for yourself. But I'm not the one who's telling you to give it up, you need to do that. So that it comes from a place where I'm willing, and it works for me. So, look, I think health is a very hard thing to sell. I'm passionate about it. And I feel somebody is ready to draw the line doesn't matter. I can stand on my head. People are it's a timing thing. So I just keep talking. That's why I say I like to start with working out because people will continue to do that no matter how they're eating. But the better they feel in their bodies, the better they'll start to eat. And that's a timing thing. So mindset, because I also believe, gentlemen, unless you get your head in the right place. Biggest Loser? Yes, these people lost hundreds of pounds in a short period of time, maybe too short. But what if you go back in a year or a year and a half later? Why do they all put it on plus, because I think if your belief ceiling doesn't shift, you will always get to that place. And it's like an elastic band, you'll end up back where you started, if not further back. So always start with how you think you are, you are not your thoughts, you are just the thinker of your thoughts. So you get to shift that we can think in a different way, then we start with exercise food, but if we don't take care of ourselves with a little self care, you're gonna go stress stressed out balls to the wall. And that's not a way to to enhance your health. And the last piece is let's look at the hormones because that to me is the optimization of it completely. And whether you do it with, you know, hormone replacement, I like to work with bioidenticals that some people are not injured, and I understand but it can't be done with diet, but it can be addressed. Yeah, you can't just Oh, putting out there. So, to me, those are the five pillars of health. That has to be addressed, I think is so important.

Yes, it

takes time. It doesn't happen overnight.

It does not happen overnight.

It's small steps. Yeah. And suddenly each step you know 1% Each day you look back one day and you think wow, the years gone by look, look how far I've come.

Ya know, I love that and not so much you know, for for the audience who who may not know you know where I came to be as, as a coach today. It really did start with my own weight loss journey which really just start Did with getting in the gym and I didn't realize the mindset shifts that would that would occur with taking off on that. And that was what then propelled me to completely overhaul my whole life, which, you know, I never expected, right? I knew that there were all these things that I wanted to change about my life. But being able to start with just getting myself to feel better, changed just every single other aspect. And I remember trying to explain to people how my financial circumstances had changed because I was losing weight. And they're like, Well, how does those two go to me like, because it's like, suddenly, it's like you're living in this fog that you don't even completely understand. And the fog starts to lift in you and you start to go up, oh, this, this is what health could feel, this is how I could feel. I can

say that's the key, we tend to do it because we want to look better. Just to start with feeling better, you will look better. It's it just goes hand in hand. But you have to start with feeling better from the inside.

Absolutely. And the things that you can do at that point that you start feeling better, is is really is really incredible. Oh my gosh, you've shared so much today. What what do you think? I was gonna say, what would you be your number one piece of advice that you would want to give to, to the audience or to someone who's thinking about, hey, I know that I don't, I don't feel good. I want to be a healthier person, what would be the one thing that you would want to share with them today,

I would say pick one thing. So whether it's drink more water, start your morning with a glass of water or a small bottle of water slammed down. And before each meal, 30 minutes before each meal have an extra glass, you were really adding water. But maybe you are drinking enough water. So perhaps it's let's get rid of the sugar. So it's pick one thing, don't try and do it all at the same time. You get to pick one thing when that feels like it's becoming a new habit. And then we get to pick the next thing. Maybe it's walking around the bluff. Maybe you don't feel like you can do a mile. So walk around your house, or walk around your block. I mean, it starts small. You'll be amazed how quick that grows. Oh, huge baby baby steps. We all have to start somewhere. And it's consistency. So it's not about big. It's about keeping it small, manageable. And consistent.

I love that. And it's so true. There's so much to truth to that. I know it sounds silly.

Nothing stopping bad talking. I mean negative talking. Because we say such terrible things to ourselves that we wouldn't say out loud to our best friend. No, I'm bad. I fell off the wagon. Look at look at you. You're not I mean, we say that to ourselves. Be kind because that changes a big part of the mindset to

Amen. How we talk to ourselves. That is huge. A human

realize it's happening. We are not aware. So being aware, becoming curious, why do I think that? Why did I say that? What's going on in my world?

No, I love that. I love that. Yeah, start simple, small. One thing that is that's huge. So Ingrid, I would love Do you have any gifts or anything that you would like to share with our audience today,

I have sent you which I hopefully you'll share with your audience. Some easy steps you can implement right away just how to simple things, whether it's the food or self care or water, but it's a little ebook that your audience can can have on my landing page where they will put their information, they will get the ebook, they will get an invitation to my private Facebook group and a link into my website.

Great. Okay, I will be sure and share that in the show notes so that if you want to find and connect with Ingrid, you can go to that landing page so that you can get the ebook and get all of her connections on social media. Do you want to talk Ingrid, I think you have a class coming up.

I do so some people would call it a masterclass. I like to call it a clinic. And it's a play. It's free. It's virtual. We're going to be on Zoom. So I know a lot of my people are not on social media. So you don't have to be on social media. We'll just send you the Zoom link. It's five days we started noon, Pacific time. It's called Healthmate supple and it So just a little bit of what I teach what I share. So you get to see a little bit of what I do who I am. And Come join me for free. I know General put a link in hopefully the show notes for everybody, all you need to do is register, save your spot, and you'll get all the information you need. But come join us, we're gonna have some fun, they'll be surprises. Oh, I love that. And I'm also offering a VIP hour. So if people want to go a little deeper or deal with issues, there's an extra hour that they can be a part of. So we can go little, like Hot Seat coaching effect, if you will.

So I love that you get some answers. Okay, so let's talk to be sure and

check me seven. When is it 23rd? Which is Monday? Through the

month? Okay, perfect. Perfect. Yeah, I would definitely say get into get into that class, if you can, so that you can really get exposed to endurance world. I love that your approach is all encompassing everything from just starting small with one simple thing to, you know, hey, at some point, we do need to look at hormones. You know, there's, I love that you've got these five pillars that you talked about that encompasses your whole health. That's so so important. And not something that everybody does not something that you're going to get if you go to the gym and you're asking a trainer how to use some equipment right

now and you do work with the five pillars, your weight loss, or your weight maintenance will just be a side effect. It will have Oh, but you will feel great along the way. And well, yes. Along the way to life should be about fun. We oh my gosh, so much. Certainly in this country. We're like on this hamster wheel. Go go go.

The Hustle grind. Oh, for sure. Just constantly. I agree. I agree. All right. Well, Oh, before I

forget, now I want to see I want to see what you're

okay. So it's kind of funny, I feel like I'm going to answer this question. So we're coming back to the two truths and a lie. And if you're listening in the audience, I really hope that you'll be sure to enlist your guesses in the comments. So the ones that Ingrid has given is she adopted an AIDS baby. She is the child to Holocaust parents. Oh, and what was the

other one work as a train on an ocean on?

Oh, on an ocean liner? That would be so fun. Worked as a trainer. Okay, I feel like that could be true. I feel like that could be true. You seem kind of adventurous. When you were younger, obviously coming to the states and with just a suitcase. Okay. Um, okay. And then. So I'm going to I'm going to be somewhat selfish here. And for those who don't know, as a teenager and young adult, I spent many, many years in HIV and AIDS education, and big proponent of education, I sat on a couple of different boards, as well as I went into middle schools and and taught two middle schools in my local area and was heavily involved in in the HIV and AIDS education campaigns for a very long time. So that one is near and dear to my heart, as well as I am a former foster parent. So selfishly, I'm going to say, did you adopt a HPV

HIV and AIDS agency was federally funded out of Washington and I had a woman who was pregnant who had no prenatal care. And because I was in the system, I could work the system. And I got a phone call one day and said come get a physical mother called me her water had broken she was on Main Street in Houston. I picked her up at three o'clock in the morning and took her to the hospital and she gave birth and walked. I know that that baby if I can, I've taken her home in her life. She died at 26 months. She was full blown by the House will spend her life is in those four walls. So I've got a girlfriend and the two of us I've never I've never had children. So I know what that means. There's a reason parents have nine months to get ready for a child but yeah, I had this little line now keeper in my desk drawer, but yeah, I saw I adopted him at night. It was the most amazing experiences I don't think I thought about it at all. I just from the heart. It was like something I knew I needed to do so yes.

Oh, that is so beautiful. Like I have chills. So incredible. How did I not

just sit and have a lot in common good. Maybe I need a cup of coffee. Talk about that

you are gonna have to come back because this is a story so and so funny for those who know me at all I'm so into like law of attraction and all these things. Ingrid and I have been sitting if will I joined the mastermind about six months ago. We've been sitting in this mastermind neither one of us knew this about each other. Like, I would have never guessed. This is so like chills Ingrid right now. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Okay, well, yes, you're gonna have to come back on because I we need to delve into that. Oh my gosh.

Oh, my life. I did it for quite a while. Oh, it's so amazing isolation because no one was talking about women got AIDS. Wait, yeah, I started a program. I did more psychosocial but a program in the clinics to walk people through the county system so that they weren't alone. Oh, my gosh, I would love to talk about but yeah, it was a big Oh, special part of my world.

Huge. Oh my god, I can't even tell you the chills that I have right now. Okay, so we're going to come back. But for today's episode, I want to say thank you. If you have tuned in,

I was so what am I working on on a cell? It was right.

What was in your life? Oh, oh, no. Okay, hold on. Well, you said you're 60 See, I don't know the Holocaust thing could be real. See, that could be real. Okay, so you were not a trainer on a cruise liner? No, you were not.

I fly. But they've as a South African. I wouldn't have been allowed off at any port. And I couldn't imagine being six months at sea without getting onto land. So I will take that. But I am. I am a child of Holocaust parents. My father was in a camp and my mother ran. So that's how we got to South Africa.

And that's how you get to South Africa. Oh my word. What an incredible story. Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, then yeah, we are going to have to reconnect. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay, if you guys guessed those two truths that a lie even though I was just so excited over the part that I guess right that I completely forgot to try and guess the lie. Be sure to comment in the in the comments below. I'd love to hear your guesses. And we're definitely going to have to have Ingrid back on the show. I'm so excited. Additionally, she's got that masterclass coming up. So,

I do want to be a part of the master class, Jen, and they just want to reach out. Certainly, um, my businesses choose wealth coaching, you can reach me at Ingrid at cheese while coaching.com Or you can send a message to my website. But I'm available for questions and happy, happy to support and happy to serve. So you people can read Yes, the problem.

She really is too, I have to say. So I'm gonna share all of that information in there so that you can find her website and any other links in the e book, which I think is a pretty amazing opportunity as well. So, such a pleasure, Ingrid. It has been absolutely amazing. Thank you so much.

This was fun. Yes, I'd love to come back. So you let me know when you have a slot open.

You have to come back. Because now we have to go off on this whole tangent about our experiences. With the end I'm going to I mean, I know for me it was in the 90s with the AIDS epidemic but anyways, yes, we have we have so much to talk about how the in there are what is our coach always say there are no coincidences. So this was not a coincidence, but pretty amazing. Alright, we'll tune in next time, be sure to catch us and be sure to follow the show notes and connect with Ingrid. Thanks for all for joining.